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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:16:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats because it isn't an ATF trap..... It's guys in China, who could give a fuck about the NFA, that are perfectly willing to send you anything once you send them your money. They don't care if it gets nabbed in customs, or you get a knock at your door after ordering one. I've said it dozen's of times .... ATF doesn't need to run stings .....there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to do their work for them. Finally somebody gets it. This isn't Mr. ATF man......it's just Mr. China man. These are the same people who will sell and ship big bags of Fentanyl right to your door. All they care about is money. They don't care if you get arrested or not. All this "oMg itz t3h ATF sTinG" shit makes gun owners look retarded. 
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:16:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perfect timing. I just got a Facebook ad for the "viper stock". No mention that it's an NFA item in the ad. It's only mentioned on the webpage in the FAQ, and even then it's the 3rd question behind such pressing issues such as "How do I track my package". https://ucarecdn.com/79e563ea-89ba-4e93-b7ae-8173731939d2/-/format/auto/-/preview/3000x3000/-/quality/lighter/ But will it have enough clearance, Clarence, for my dbl snail drum clips ? |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:18:27 PM EDT
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It’s ridiculous how hard they are trying to entrap people. I searched online with my filter number to cross to another brand (can’t have the handy books at the store anymore) and the first page was covered in links to their sites.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:19:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:19:48 PM EDT
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ATF sting, LOL! That's a good one.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:24:41 PM EDT
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I think these adds for FA parts and solvent traps aren't just to trick people into buying them but for Karen's and Keith's that don't know squat about gun laws to say/think.
OMG you can buy MG and silencer parts on line....just like the gunshow loophole. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:26:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: low hanging fruit... and it was never about getting actual bad guys... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there. low hanging fruit... and it was never about getting actual bad guys... It’s always been about getting the good guys... |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:26:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:26:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It might be fun to make an ad for a "full auto firing pin" to troll the batf. Include a picture with the end of an AR firing pin filed off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nice try, I’ll just file the firing pin down. It might be fun to make an ad for a "full auto firing pin" to troll the batf. Include a picture with the end of an AR firing pin filed off. They would just bust you for intent. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:27:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there. It's much, much easier to create a criminal and arrest him than it is to find one, track his whereabouts, surveil him, get warrants, and put together a real case against him... Just a guess. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:27:46 PM EDT
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Perfect for Mother's Day!
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:31:13 PM EDT
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Can I combine shipping with a solvent trap ?
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:32:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can I combine shipping with a solvent trap ? why not whats the worst that could happen 
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:37:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: why not whats the worst that could happen Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can I combine shipping with a solvent trap ? why not whats the worst that could happen |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:38:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was gonna say the same thing. I'm no sme, but that doesn't look like the auto sears I've seen. These are more auto connectors than sears. They are forms of the swift link and are closer in how they work to a lightning link than a DIAS. The one that doesn't hook under the rear upper receiver lug should work great in a regular AR15. The one that hooks under the lug is supposed to be made from plastic and flexes at the hinge point. It would probably function if you cut the tail off and gave it some wiggle room. They rest on top of the back of the disconnector and don't need any additional springs to function. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:40:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much were they askin'? It's for a friend. On sale for 95.00 down from 199.00. Such a deal |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:43:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: low hanging fruit... and it was never about getting actual bad guys... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there. low hanging fruit... and it was never about getting actual bad guys... Too much work finding the bad guys. Might as well entrap some citizens. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:45:01 PM EDT
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I wonder if you can get pinched for buying one if you don't own any guns.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:46:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then again I have no idea why anyone would want full auto. I mean its fun at the range but unless you’re in a squad and need to provide cover fire, I don’t see the point. Full auto... Correct Burst... Would be handy |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:46:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats because it isn't an ATF trap..... It's guys in China, who could give a fuck about the NFA, that are perfectly willing to send you anything once you send them your money. They don't care if it gets nabbed in customs, or you get a knock at your door after ordering one. I've said it dozen's of times .... ATF doesn't need to run stings .....there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to do their work for them. truth |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:46:51 PM EDT
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I should order a few for my neighbor.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:46:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perfect timing. I just got a Facebook ad for the "viper stock". No mention that it's an NFA item in the ad. It's only mentioned on the webpage in the FAQ, and even then it's the 3rd question behind such pressing issues such as "How do I track my package". https://ucarecdn.com/79e563ea-89ba-4e93-b7ae-8173731939d2/-/format/auto/-/preview/3000x3000/-/quality/lighter/ Probably because that isn't an NFA item... |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:47:30 PM EDT
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If it was a “legit” China seller, that DGAFF about regs , and there wasn’t a ATF hook already in place, FB wouldn’t be running the sponsored ad. I’ve seen the Glock mod ad reported, reviewed, and declared OK by FB.
That’s not a back door trap, that’s a walk up to the front double doors, and stick your dick in trap. The good play here, is to get attention with liberal media that “OMG! FB is selling machine gun conversions out in the open” Which coincidentally, is likely the reason I got the full cancel & take your statue down ban from FB. I am disappeared gone without a trace on FB. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:48:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if you can get pinched for buying one if you don't own any guns. Yes. A DIAS or LL is considered a gun under the NFA all by itself and in particular is a MG. Crazy isn't it. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:50:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then again I have no idea why anyone would want full auto. I mean its fun at the range but unless you're in a squad and need to provide cover fire, I don't see the point. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:50:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Full auto... Correct Burst... Would be handy Full auto is great. You get to control the burst length as needed.  Rare Breed FRT-15 Forced Reset Trigger |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:50:50 PM EDT
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I have at least a hundred of those hanging in my closet. Much cheaper too.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:51:19 PM EDT
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When you're an acronym agency paid to hunt terrorists....and there's a shortage of terrorists....you gotta make due.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you're an acronym agency paid to hunt terrorists....and there's a shortage of terrorists....you gotta make due. You spelled “make new terrorists” wrong. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:52:53 PM EDT
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So what does FATF do when somebody with no firearms orders one of these items off of say wish or any of these other sites? Say somebody ordered the wall hangers and some fuel filters but has no firearms?
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:53:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there. Buy a prepaid card. Order. Ship to the home of your favorite local anti-gun lunatic.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:55:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Finally somebody gets it. This isn't Mr. ATF man......it's just Mr. China man. These are the same people who will sell and ship big bags of Fentanyl right to your door. All they care about is money. They don't care if you get arrested or not. All this "oMg itz t3h ATF sTinG" shit makes gun owners look retarded. It’s cheaper than bribing Bill Clinton to let a container load of AK’s come in to Port of Los Angeles... |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 1:56:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:05:10 PM EDT
[#35]
$5-10? Order some and have them shipped to your favorite local dem instigators.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:10:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:20:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These are more auto connectors than sears. They are forms of the swift link and are closer in how they work to a lightning link than a DIAS. The one that doesn't hook under the rear upper receiver lug should work great in a regular AR15. The one that hooks under the lug is supposed to be made from plastic and flexes at the hinge point. It would probably function if you cut the tail off and gave it some wiggle room. They rest on top of the back of the disconnector and don't need any additional springs to function. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was gonna say the same thing. I'm no sme, but that doesn't look like the auto sears I've seen. These are more auto connectors than sears. They are forms of the swift link and are closer in how they work to a lightning link than a DIAS. The one that doesn't hook under the rear upper receiver lug should work great in a regular AR15. The one that hooks under the lug is supposed to be made from plastic and flexes at the hinge point. It would probably function if you cut the tail off and gave it some wiggle room. They rest on top of the back of the disconnector and don't need any additional springs to function. Thanks for the clarification. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:21:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Forbidden fruit and all that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Then again I have no idea why anyone would want full auto. I mean its fun at the range but unless you're in a squad and need to provide cover fire, I don't see the point. Don’t forget the lulz. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:21:56 PM EDT
[#39]
LOL showed up in my feed today also.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:25:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: why not whats the worst that could happen Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can I combine shipping with a solvent trap ? why not whats the worst that could happen Exactly, saving on shipping!
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:35:57 PM EDT
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Remember when China sent unwanted seeds to a bunch of people last year? Imagine the chaos if they sent these instead.
The media could honestly say that China mailed machine guns to thousands of random people all over the US. That sure would highlight how stupid US gun laws are. I'm sure it would only lead to more and worse laws though. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:49:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there. It’s all about making those busts to justify increased budgeting...even if you have to entrap the mentally handicapped to do it... https://archive.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atf-uses-rogue-tactics-in-storefront-stings-across-the-nation-b99146765z1-234916641.html |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 2:59:07 PM EDT
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We get a Republican President,95+ Republican Senators,and 430+ Republican congressman,and there is a good,possibly,maybe chance that we could legit buy shit like this with no problems with legality...
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Posted: 5/6/2021 3:03:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when China sent unwanted seeds to a bunch of people last year? Imagine the chaos if they sent these instead. The media could honestly say that China mailed machine guns to thousands of random people all over the US. That sure would highlight how stupid US gun laws are. I'm sure it would only lead to more and worse laws though. Or stronger import bans. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 3:23:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or stronger import bans. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 3:26:08 PM EDT
[#46]
Order through vpn with throwaway prepaid card and have shipped to ATF office. Shipping collect.
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Posted: 5/6/2021 3:33:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you're an acronym agency paid to hunt terrorists....and there's a shortage of terrorists....you gotta make |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 3:40:14 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t exist to find criminals They exist to criminalize citizens Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there. They don’t exist to find criminals They exist to criminalize citizens Excellent assessment. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 3:41:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats because it isn't an ATF trap..... It's guys in China, who could give a fuck about the NFA, that are perfectly willing to send you anything once you send them your money. They don't care if it gets nabbed in customs, or you get a knock at your door after ordering one. I've said it dozen's of times .... ATF doesn't need to run stings .....there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to do their work for them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never understood the the entrapment tactic, legal ploy or not. Enough real criminals out there. Thats because it isn't an ATF trap..... It's guys in China, who could give a fuck about the NFA, that are perfectly willing to send you anything once you send them your money. They don't care if it gets nabbed in customs, or you get a knock at your door after ordering one. I've said it dozen's of times .... ATF doesn't need to run stings .....there are plenty of people out there dumb enough to do their work for them. Exercising one's Constitutionally protected rights to the fullest is NOT dumb. |
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Posted: 5/6/2021 4:11:02 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It might be fun to make an ad for a "full auto firing pin" to troll the batf. Include a picture with the end of an AR firing pin filed off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nice try, I'll just file the firing pin down. It might be fun to make an ad for a "full auto firing pin" to troll the batf. Include a picture with the end of an AR firing pin filed off. |
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