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All progress is good progress. I'm working on the drawers for the right side. Build drawer slider for top drawer, then build the drawers. Next I'm mounting the stove. I've decided to bite the bullet at the end of June and order the tent. Maggiolina Airtop, medium will work perfect. Stolen from google: http://www.woick.de/outdoor-shop/media/images/info/CD179161web_maggiolina_air_top_small_black_storm.jpg View Quote I've been looking at RTT's, but a different style (those would be too long, anyway). I'm thinking either Tepui or CVT, but the Mombasas are cheaper, so they've got that advantage (thinner material, though...) Something like this: |
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One of the guys at work bought a Harbor Freight Mig welder, but just uses flux core wire (I don't think he ever got around to buying a tank and regulator). It worked much better after he gave up on the Harbor Freight flux core wire and bought some better flux core wire at Lowes. When we had to modify an engine hoist to clear the crates that Continental and Lycoming use, he brought the welder in for that job. Even with heavier tubing than we probably needed (I think it was 1/4" wall thickness), it did a good job once the feed rate and amperage was set. Only hickups were a couple times it overheated and the protection circuit shut it down. Definitely not something to buy for a business, but should be fine for projects. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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But I'm thinking about ponying up for a little flux-core wire feed unit and doing some welding. One of the guys at work bought a Harbor Freight Mig welder, but just uses flux core wire (I don't think he ever got around to buying a tank and regulator). It worked much better after he gave up on the Harbor Freight flux core wire and bought some better flux core wire at Lowes. When we had to modify an engine hoist to clear the crates that Continental and Lycoming use, he brought the welder in for that job. Even with heavier tubing than we probably needed (I think it was 1/4" wall thickness), it did a good job once the feed rate and amperage was set. Only hickups were a couple times it overheated and the protection circuit shut it down. Definitely not something to buy for a business, but should be fine for projects. Harbor Freight has a 110V* Flux-core only welder for ~$110 that I've looked at, and Tractor Supply (and I'm finally getting one of those, it's under construction) has a similar unit for $150. I've thought about buying that, and 'funding' it by building the 3-axis hitch I posted on the first page in lieu of a Lock-n-roll. Hmmmm. *-No 220 in the garage... |
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A decent 120 volt wire feed will be money well spent. Go for a model with gas capability....it dramatically improved my amateur bead-making abilities.
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bump this fellas.
I ordered my tent today. Drawer slides are done, water spigot moved to outside. Waiting on my switches to get here to redo the electrical. New fuel filler hose ready to install this week. |
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bump this fellas. I ordered my tent today. Drawer slides are done, water spigot moved to outside. Waiting on my switches to get here to redo the electrical. New fuel filler hose ready to install this week. View Quote Nice. You go with the Magnolia? I've made zero progress myself, because I was in Vegas last weekend. But I did pick up a 110V Flux-core-only welder. (It was on sale, and Vegas didn't clean me out) |
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Yup, Maggiolina Airtop, size medium. Should arrive in a few weeks.
I use my friends welder for light stuff. Need to go get it to do the drawers once i bend them. |
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Awesome.
I don't have a trip planned before Labor Day (it's too damn hot), but I was thinking today that I'm probably going to be in a ground tent then. I just don't see me having enough open weekends to get to where I want to be for a RTT by then. |
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Tub kit is officially on order!
2-3 weeks probably before I have it. So I get to build it in July. In Phoenix. I'm gonna melt. |
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What tub are you going with?
I'd be tempted by the Dinoot. Of course there was a trailer on ExPo in San Fran for like $750, almost complete. I totally would have driven for it if i was just starting out. |
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What tub are you going with? I'd be tempted by the Dinoot. Of course there was a trailer on ExPo in San Fran for like $750, almost complete. I totally would have driven for it if i was just starting out. View Quote M-series. Going to leave it the full 72 inches. That was the plan all along, and why I built the frame the way I did. Though I've had thoughts about the frame. It seems plenty strong, but the engineer in me has never seen something that can't be improved. |
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All this hard work and you could've just bought one of these! Manley ORV Trailers All kidding aside, yours is awesome! Nice work, OP! |
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All this hard work and you could've just bought one of these! Manley ORV Trailers All kidding aside, yours is awesome! Nice work, OP! View Quote Hell, I could have bought this! ...That is, if I had 30 grand lying around. Anyway, progress today, it's officially registered! Not much more will happen until the tub comes in. 2 weeks. |
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Hell, I could have bought this! https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10473813_10152493047038748_1716315446662327782_n.jpg ...That is, if I had 30 grand lying around. Anyway, progress today, it's officially registered! Not much more will happen until the tub comes in. 2 weeks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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All this hard work and you could've just bought one of these! Manley ORV Trailers All kidding aside, yours is awesome! Nice work, OP! Hell, I could have bought this! https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10473813_10152493047038748_1716315446662327782_n.jpg ...That is, if I had 30 grand lying around. Anyway, progress today, it's officially registered! Not much more will happen until the tub comes in. 2 weeks. Didn't someone here build something like this? I thought I had it in my subscriptions, but it's not there anymore. |
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Didn't someone here build something like this? I thought I had it in my subscriptions, but it's not there anymore. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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All this hard work and you could've just bought one of these! Manley ORV Trailers All kidding aside, yours is awesome! Nice work, OP! Hell, I could have bought this! https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10473813_10152493047038748_1716315446662327782_n.jpg ...That is, if I had 30 grand lying around. Anyway, progress today, it's officially registered! Not much more will happen until the tub comes in. 2 weeks. Didn't someone here build something like this? I thought I had it in my subscriptions, but it's not there anymore. Looks like a Benroy with some extras. |
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All this hard work and you could've just bought one of these! Manley ORV Trailers All kidding aside, yours is awesome! Nice work, OP! Hell, I could have bought this! https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10473813_10152493047038748_1716315446662327782_n.jpg ...That is, if I had 30 grand lying around. Anyway, progress today, it's officially registered! Not much more will happen until the tub comes in. 2 weeks. Didn't someone here build something like this? I thought I had it in my subscriptions, but it's not there anymore. Looks like a Benroy with some extras. I think the build I'm thinking of was a tear drop trailer. |
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I think the build I'm thinking of was a tear drop trailer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Didn't someone here build something like this? I thought I had it in my subscriptions, but it's not there anymore. Looks like a Benroy with some extras. I think the build I'm thinking of was a tear drop trailer. Benroy campers are generally lumped in as a type of teardrop, though they are a little more boxy (not as nicely curved, but a little easier to build) than what most people think of when talking about teardrop campers. There's a pdf file, floating around somewhere on one of the teardrop sites, of plans and build instructions for a 'Generic Benroy', so it's definitely possible that an arfcommer built one. |
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Here's my M416 trailer
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Nice project!
I like the look of the 416s, I'm in the middle of building a teardrop trailer at the moment but once I'm done, I'm thinking about making one of the Harbor Freight 40x46" trailers into a mini-416-look-alike for hauling crap to the dump or mulch, etc. My tractor already has a ball on the back of it, so I could just transfer the entire trailer from my truck to the tractor when I need to move stuff around the yard. Instead of the eye bolts, I'd look at using airline track for your tie-downs, its lower profile and much more adaptable. You could set your tie-downs for the right length and clip them into position, without having to adjust them when its time to move. Register your trailer in Maine for $21 for two years via mail, super easy and no messing around with inspections or whatever. Kharn |
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If you're able to, I would weld the trailer frame connections. They have a tenancy to wiggle themselves loose on the road, I couldn't imagine offroad. Welded connections should also help with the complete lack of triangulation or gussets in the trailer design. At the very least, upgrade to some quality hardware. Harbor Freight trailers are at home on the back of TJs <a href="http://s855.photobucket.com/user/emp7y_01/media/20130519_091950_zps83d58976.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab120/emp7y_01/20130519_091950_zps83d58976.jpg</a> View Quote Yeah, that's the plan. I just bought a Flux-core only 110V welder for the purpose, should be more than adequate to weld the frame connections. Tomorrow I'm going to do some practice; I've done a lot of weld engineering in my past, but I haven't practically touched a welder in 7 or 8 years. (And even then, I didn't do much, just enough to prove to the guys that I could. But I was very careful not to get my ass certified in anything we did a lot of (I did on Submersion Arc, but mainly because I bought the machine and noone knew how to use it, so I spent some time learning...) because I didn't want to get dragged in on holidays and shit to do actual work. Plus, I've been in Aerospace a while, so Flux-core Carbon Steel... yeah, we don't do that. I'm pretty confident that a morning of welding scraps will get me good-to-go, though. |
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Nice project! Register your trailer in Maine for $21 for two years via mail, super easy and no messing around with inspections or whatever. Kharn View Quote Tell me how to do this with a trailer i built. currently registered in TX I'm finding agencies that will do it for $42 a year. Online possible, renewal only. hook a brother up. Mine just expired. |
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Nice project! Register your trailer in Maine for $21 for two years via mail, super easy and no messing around with inspections or whatever. Kharn Tell me how to do this with a trailer i built. currently registered in TX I'm finding agencies that will do it for $42 a year. Online possible, renewal only. hook a brother up. Mine just expired. At least in Az, it's a permanent registration. No renewals, ever. That's kinda nice. Though the $129 bux on this one hurts a bit. (My boat trailer was basically nothing, they hit you up front, transfers are cheap. My Neighbor's 'Home Built' trailer is actually an 'old' trailer, he rebuilt it around the nameplate of a POS) |
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I went down this road a few years ago. It's nice to have a package all in one. I will eventually go to something 'like' a trailer though and be done with the RTT idea. <a href="http://s202.photobucket.com/user/enigma2y0u/media/Trailer%20Build/Sketchup.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa231/enigma2y0u/Trailer%20Build/Sketchup.jpg</a> <a href="http://s202.photobucket.com/user/enigma2y0u/media/Trailer%20Build/DSC00794.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa231/enigma2y0u/Trailer%20Build/DSC00794.jpg</a> <a href="http://s202.photobucket.com/user/enigma2y0u/media/Trailer%20Build/524458_747398246174_604269140_n_zps3bdaf179.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa231/enigma2y0u/Trailer%20Build/524458_747398246174_604269140_n_zps3bdaf179.jpg</a> View Quote Nice! What RTT did you buy? |
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We bought the Tepui tent. I think it was the largest one they had at the time. When I am looking at the website the names don't sound familiar, but it appears to be the Gran Sabana.
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Great thread ....keep the ideas and pics a commin' !
Quoted: M-series. Going to leave it the full 72 inches. That was the plan all along, and why I built the frame the way I did. Though I've had thoughts about the frame. It seems plenty strong, but the engineer in me has never seen something that can't be improved. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What tub are you going with? I'd be tempted by the Dinoot. Of course there was a trailer on ExPo in San Fran for like $750, almost complete. I totally would have driven for it if i was just starting out. M-series. Going to leave it the full 72 inches. That was the plan all along, and why I built the frame the way I did. Though I've had thoughts about the frame. It seems plenty strong, but the engineer in me has never seen something that can't be improved. I knew that I couldnt be the only one with a thought process like that . I never seem to be able to look at something without modifying it in my brain . . . . too often gets me into a project over my head |
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We bought the Tepui tent. I think it was the largest one they had at the time. When I am looking at the website the names don't sound familiar, but it appears to be the Gran Sabana. View Quote Yeah, I'm leaning that way, too. Kukenam - not the smallest, but not a monster, either. I was also looking at a CVT Mt. Bachelor, but they appear to have just raised their prices (and took away the Annex, it's no longer included in the base price, which is a little thing, but makes the increase hurt more). The Mombasa's are also appealing, mainly because they're cheap, but I'm thinking there's a reason why they're cheap, and I don't really understand the material differences. You think the Tepui is pretty stout? I'm worried about it developing little holes, etc, and not being easily fixable, and me being out $1k. |
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Great thread ....keep the ideas and pics a commin' ! I knew that I couldnt be the only one with a thought process like that . I never seem to be able to look at something without modifying it in my brain . . . . too often gets me into a project over my head View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What tub are you going with? I'd be tempted by the Dinoot. Of course there was a trailer on ExPo in San Fran for like $750, almost complete. I totally would have driven for it if i was just starting out. M-series. Going to leave it the full 72 inches. That was the plan all along, and why I built the frame the way I did. Though I've had thoughts about the frame. It seems plenty strong, but the engineer in me has never seen something that can't be improved. I knew that I couldnt be the only one with a thought process like that . I never seem to be able to look at something without modifying it in my brain . . . . too often gets me into a project over my head If it wasn't so goddamn hot outside, I probably would modify it. I still probably will, but damn, it's hot out there. 10AM, and I've been driven back inside. (Of course, I was welding, so...) |
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Yeah, I'm leaning that way, too. Kukenam - not the smallest, but not a monster, either. I was also looking at a CVT Mt. Bachelor, but they appear to have just raised their prices (and took away the Annex, it's no longer included in the base price, which is a little thing, but makes the increase hurt more). The Mombasa's are also appealing, mainly because they're cheap, but I'm thinking there's a reason why they're cheap, and I don't really understand the material differences. You think the Tepui is pretty stout? I'm worried about it developing little holes, etc, and not being easily fixable, and me being out $1k. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We bought the Tepui tent. I think it was the largest one they had at the time. When I am looking at the website the names don't sound familiar, but it appears to be the Gran Sabana. Yeah, I'm leaning that way, too. Kukenam - not the smallest, but not a monster, either. I was also looking at a CVT Mt. Bachelor, but they appear to have just raised their prices (and took away the Annex, it's no longer included in the base price, which is a little thing, but makes the increase hurt more). The Mombasa's are also appealing, mainly because they're cheap, but I'm thinking there's a reason why they're cheap, and I don't really understand the material differences. You think the Tepui is pretty stout? I'm worried about it developing little holes, etc, and not being easily fixable, and me being out $1k. When we first got it I was a little pissed because the frame is like 128 gauge aluminum, I thought I could poke through it with my finger. But it has actually held up just fine. I have even less worries about the canvas material and stitching; it seems really well done. The zippers are good on it even after really wrenching on the main cover one to get it all closed up time after time. The pad isn't too stiff or soft. It sheds rain really well. I has enough venting for 100 degree desert days. I don't like how noisy it is when there is 50MPH winds going on. It doesn't seem like there are enough tie downs and things to make everything quit flapping. I don't like how the ladder is basically the support for the one side. You have to fuck with it forever to get it just right. I don't like the ladder in general, I can never seem to push the right tabs to get it to all lock without again fucking with it forever. I don't like how the rubber cover attaches to the frame. It is always ready to peal off it seems. All in all I am happy with it. My bitches are pretty minor. The only thing I that ever really pisses me off is when it is windy and all the different layers flap together. It is built plenty durable. I have taken that trailer through some interesting places, jumped it, etc. and the tent seems to package up fine enough to hang on for the ride. |
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Nice project! Register your trailer in Maine for $21 for two years via mail, super easy and no messing around with inspections or whatever. Kharn Tell me how to do this with a trailer i built. currently registered in TX I'm finding agencies that will do it for $42 a year. Online possible, renewal only. hook a brother up. Mine just expired. No need for a broker/agency, call the Maine BMV directly and ask for a registration packet for a non-resident. (207) 624-9000 ext. 52149 They are extremely helpful and nice. Kharn |
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Tub shipped early (less a spacer which he'll ship early next week, but I don't need that initially).
FedEx says it should be here Saturday! So Saturday AM, I really need to finish welding... |
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awesome. I'm calling Maine tomorrow!
And good news on the tub. Tonight I should have my switches done. Decided to go with a Blue Sea 4306, fused switch panel. Comes ready to install your leads and a ground. Decided to go with BAL C series jacks for the rear. They'll tuck up under the rear nicely, not affecting my escape angle much |
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Mine is the bed from an old Ford Courier. upgraded axle with wheels and tires the same as my Jeep. 16 gallog fuel tank for the Jeep, 20 gallons water, on board propane for stove. 2 deep cycle batteries to run the fuel and water pumps, as well as LED lighting. Eventually it will have sliding drawers for food, hard mount stove, and a Maggiolina on top. Then an awning off the left side. I'll have the entire area between wheel wells for junk like folding chairs, kid tent, and such. It's a couple years in the making, and a steady but slow project. Whatever you do, don't go look at expeditionportal.com It's the arfcom of the expo world. View Quote Damn you |
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Damn.. I wish I lived out west. We don't have the access to large open land like you guys out west do. I'd love to build one for my K5 but unless your on 44s and love mud pits or bashing the body up we are out of luck here in the Midwest.
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Damn.. I wish I lived out west. We don't have the access to large open land like you guys out west do. I'd love to build one for my K5 but unless your on 44s and love mud pits or bashing the body up we are out of luck here in the Midwest. I still might build one and make the trip every other year. View Quote Do it. Dallas isnt exactly the center of outdoor recreation. Tharts part of the fun, the travel! |
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Damn.. I wish I lived out west. We don't have the access to large open land like you guys out west do. I'd love to build one for my K5 but unless your on 44s and love mud pits or bashing the body up we are out of luck here in the Midwest. I still might build one and make the trip every other year. View Quote Go with No Tailgates (so the front of mine, 2x) and seal it up really good. The original M416's were designed to float, this probably would, too. Though the drag in mud would be a bitch. |
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Welcome to the addiction OP. Expedition portal is worse than this place in terms of costing you money. Here's a link my trailer build thread View Quote I just read through the whole thread and really enjoyed it. Thanks for posting the link and great job on the build. |
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That's a good design. Usually bikes are carried sideways on the back, allowing more room to work, but I like the concept. A rooftop tent of the folding design, like CVT and such could easily be carried on it's side, then laid down when the bike is off.
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That's a good design. Usually bikes are carried sideways on the back, allowing more room to work, but I like the concept. A rooftop tent of the folding design, like CVT and such could easily be carried on it's side, then laid down when the bike is off. You should also look here: http://www.jumpingjacktrailers.com/index.php View Quote They have kits like the Jumping Jack, too, that you can put on your own frame. You could also build a rack with gas struts, so you could raise the tent up when the bike is there, and drop it down when it isn't. |
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They have kits like the Jumping Jack, too, that you can put on your own frame. You could also build a rack with gas struts, so you could raise the tent up when the bike is there, and drop it down when it isn't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's a good design. Usually bikes are carried sideways on the back, allowing more room to work, but I like the concept. A rooftop tent of the folding design, like CVT and such could easily be carried on it's side, then laid down when the bike is off. You should also look here: http://www.jumpingjacktrailers.com/index.php They have kits like the Jumping Jack, too, that you can put on your own frame. You could also build a rack with gas struts, so you could raise the tent up when the bike is there, and drop it down when it isn't. I'm liking the idea of a rack that the tent stays on too. If I did a rack, underneath it, beside the bike(over a tool box) I could hang a kayak on each side. Reason I put the bike in the center was for balance and a 650L would stick out so far if sideways. Secondly I have a slide-in pop up camper for my crew cab Chevy k3500 so a tent is really only needed if I were to take my K5. I love the CVT mt. Baker tent. |
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Stove is mounted, getting gas line run today.
I got my leveling jacks in a couple days ago. BAL C series 31" Wanted the extra length so IF I stop on unlevel ground, it wont matter, as the legs have about 8" extra reach. I'll work on those when I can get with my buddy and his welder. I'm welding a plate to the frame to mount the legs to. Also decided to change over to a 7 blade harness instead of 4 pin. I'm going to use one of the extra 10ga wires to charge the trailer batteries off the Jeep. I'll have a switch in the jeep to activate a constant duty solenoid that will connect battery to trailer harness. That way I can turn it if trailer batteris are full, starting jeep, to not drain jeep battery in camp, etc... oh yes, progress all around, but still tons to do. |
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Stove is mounted, getting gas line run today. I got my leveling jacks in a couple days ago. BAL C series 31" Wanted the extra length so IF I stop on unlevel ground, it wont matter, as the legs have about 8" extra reach. I'll work on those when I can get with my buddy and his welder. I'm welding a plate to the frame to mount the legs to. Also decided to change over to a 7 blade harness instead of 4 pin. I'm going to use one of the extra 10ga wires to charge the trailer batteries off the Jeep. I'll have a switch in the jeep to activate a constant duty solenoid that will connect battery to trailer harness. That way I can turn it if trailer batteris are full, starting jeep, to not drain jeep battery in camp, etc... oh yes, progress all around, but still tons to do. View Quote Where'd you get those leveling jacks? |
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