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We went to Toledo to get a completely new body for it and toured the old Willy's factory. There's not a bolt on it that he hasn't turned. He got his for less than $1000, I believe. I think he's in it over $10K at this point, and the restoration has been going on for about 10 years, whenever he has time to work on it. |
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I was at my mechanics today who has a 46 Willys; I believe I mentioned this somewhere around here last year around this time. I thought yhis thing had sold because it just vanished the one day. He stored it in the back of his garage, out of sight, because of all the offers he was recieving. He dropped his price for me by 1k down to 1k. The frame is beautiful. Needs body work. Hasn't been inspected or driven since '67 but was barn and garage stored. Has everything except the steering box. Have the cash and the wifes seal of approval. This grand is suddenly burning a hole in my pocket. I will get these photos hosted shortly, I'm currently chasing down my last code after a motor swap. Give me 30 minutes, I'll be back. Are you dull? BUY IT! |
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If you really want it, go for it. Be prepared to spend thousands of dollars keeping it running. NOS parts are hard to come by, and they're expensive. It will be a maintenance hog. All military vehicles, new or old, are. Be prepared for break downs in the most inconvenient places. Your avatar makes my blood pressure rise. So did the associated thread. Back to the Jeep. BUY IT!. |
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I'm afraid this won't help much. My dad's '48: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xmXEP7F0RXY/S0VOvMesOvI/AAAAAAAABJQ/drj-z_8XzWA/w740-h555-no/IMG_0317.JPGhttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gJfnI6mCX5Y/S0VOvlGRfvI/AAAAAAAABJU/s2dGNQtNU9c/w740-h555-no/IMG_0318.JPGhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tMGj3HtrNPM/S0VPZ0P_S1I/AAAAAAAABUw/nEKvO_8xf0k/w416-h555-no/IMG_0319.JPGhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CRAalziZHqo/S0VPaHQAZsI/AAAAAAAABJo/DTnF-OuaF7I/w740-h555-no/IMG_0320.JPGhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9BihyM61h7E/S0VPyUtTZnI/AAAAAAAABJw/dx1MRnC1YDE/w740-h555-no/IMG_0322.JPGhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fvauKPbxShE/S0VPyshaoaI/AAAAAAAABJ0/QpV1qA-toD4/w740-h555-no/IMG_0323.JPGhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wBdQDKoN7t4/S0VQsmbKunI/AAAAAAAABKI/1u66bTnoc9k/w740-h555-no/IMG_0325.JPG We went to Toledo to get a completely new body for it and toured the old Willy's factory. There's not a bolt on it that he hasn't turned. He got his for less than $1000, I believe. I think he's in it over $10K at this point, and the restoration has been going on for about 10 years, whenever he has time to work on it. Beatiful. I intend to turn every bolt on this bad boy. My 14 month old son sat for hours in his stroller content watching me do my motor swap in the Honda over the last few days. The mission: Rebuild as close to stock as possible Find on of our decorated family members to base its military designation off of as a replica Join this 4x4 club that is pretty awesome and make him work Family profit This does not need to be done soon, it won't be done soon. I keep getting busier and busier with work not accounting for the fact that I have a lot of homework to do. Going to load more photos now. |
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Father in law just gave me and the wife a 46 Willys Jeep that has been in their family since about '60, the best he can remember. I'm tearing it down in my garage now. Haven't gotten very deep into it, but it's in decent condition. I'm still going to replace the body tub as its pretty rough and has a few rust spots. The frame and drive train are in very good condition.
You can get a lot of parts you can most likely need from Kaiser Willys. Have fun with it. I am with ours. |
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Quoted: The mission: Rebuild as close to stock as possible Find on of our decorated family members to base its military designation off of as a replica Join this 4x4 club that is pretty awesome and make him work Family profit This does not need to be done soon, it won't be done soon. I keep getting busier and busier with work not accounting for the fact that I have a lot of homework to do. Going to load more photos now. You can drop a reproduction GPW back body to eliminate that feature, or get handy with sheetmetal and welder. Edit: While not a "jeep" it certainly has flat fenders, my Bombardier licensed production of the VW/Audi Type 183 Iltis 1,7l 4cy gas water cooled 4WD with locking diff and low gear "gelande" gear: 
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OP, I was around $3k into my '52, and that's counting the price of the Jeep itself, a full rebuild on the L-134, small parts and pieces here and there, paint, and this is what I ended up with. Drove it almost daily, including winters, for several years. Couldn't tell you the number of people I had, just at random, come up and ask about it, or want a ride in it, or pictures of themselves and/or their kids sitting in it. And no, the oil spot underneath it isn't from the Jeep, it's from a '76 F100 that leaked from more places than not.
The little Nissan truck I drive daily now sucks, and has cost me more money, in a shorter period of time, than the Willys ever did. 
I even scabbed together a fake M2HB to put in the back, but I never finished the mount. 
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Friggin A man! Lol Mine was $600 delivered, how much wad yours? ;) Actually it was 599.99, just found a penny. Oh, I'll officially be the second owner. <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/E021CFAB-0CDE-4E8F-8983-9B78B9EC19EA_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/E021CFAB-0CDE-4E8F-8983-9B78B9EC19EA_1.jpg</a> <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/67AAB1B2-685E-4138-806D-7448500A1329_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/67AAB1B2-685E-4138-806D-7448500A1329_1.jpg</a> <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/A750CF46-9AFE-4DC3-A0D7-67DEECF6062A_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/A750CF46-9AFE-4DC3-A0D7-67DEECF6062A_1.jpg</a> <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/DC9F0629-41C6-4AB8-9912-6812261F5910.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/DC9F0629-41C6-4AB8-9912-6812261F5910.jpg</a> <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/2E850E4B-B7DD-4405-99D1-32E1F9EC40CC_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/2E850E4B-B7DD-4405-99D1-32E1F9EC40CC_1.jpg</a> Quoted:
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Just purchased a 1943 GPW waiting for it to ship from California  Friggin A man! Lol Mine was $600 delivered, how much wad yours? ;) Actually it was 599.99, just found a penny. Oh, I'll officially be the second owner. <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/E021CFAB-0CDE-4E8F-8983-9B78B9EC19EA_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/E021CFAB-0CDE-4E8F-8983-9B78B9EC19EA_1.jpg</a> <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/67AAB1B2-685E-4138-806D-7448500A1329_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/67AAB1B2-685E-4138-806D-7448500A1329_1.jpg</a> <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/A750CF46-9AFE-4DC3-A0D7-67DEECF6062A_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/A750CF46-9AFE-4DC3-A0D7-67DEECF6062A_1.jpg</a> <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/DC9F0629-41C6-4AB8-9912-6812261F5910.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/DC9F0629-41C6-4AB8-9912-6812261F5910.jpg</a> <a href="http://s452.photobucket.com/user/savageselect/media/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/2E850E4B-B7DD-4405-99D1-32E1F9EC40CC_1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq246/savageselect/BOB%20GHB%20EDC/Jeepin/2E850E4B-B7DD-4405-99D1-32E1F9EC40CC_1.jpg</a> 
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Well it's. Military one so that comes at a premium, it's war time so $, it's all still correct so that's more $ and it's restored so all in about $19,000. 
But you can find a nice project for $6,500 , and all parts are available you could even build one from scratch. 
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Isn't there some guy selling these in a crate for $500 minus the wheels and tires? I wish upon you that you fart in an inapproriate setting in your near future. Mods/Admin, need a title change. I can make this motor crank, no clue how to change the thread title. Official '46 Willys Build Thread |
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Isn't there some guy selling these in a crate for $500 minus the wheels and tires? I wish upon you that you fart in an inapproriate setting in your near future. Mods/Admin, need a title change. I can make this motor crank, no clue how to change the thread title. Official '46 Willys Build Thread Eh, we got Tylo's CJ-7 running... and yours even turns over. Piece of Cake. But you've gotta get on that rust. Best to stop it as soon as you can. |
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Isn't there some guy selling these in a crate for $500 minus the wheels and tires? I wish upon you that you fart in an inapproriate setting in your near future. Mods/Admin, need a title change. I can make this motor crank, no clue how to change the thread title. Official '46 Willys Build Thread Tag I'm jealous OP....
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I worked at Scarborough's Garage in Nags Head NC as a mechanic in the 1970s (long gone; Jim was a Jeep dealer through Willys, Kaiser Willys, American Motors, Chrysler).
Ford made Jeeps to the same specs in WWII, like Colt and Singer 1911s, or Inland and Rockola M-1 Carbines. |
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I am pretty sure this is a CJ2A. Help comforming? My boss just called the WWII stuff MBs, which he said stood for "Military Bastard"! The returning Vets had enough of G.I. vehicles, their wives wanted civilian cars as well, so the only market was a place like the Outer Banks of NC, beach driving and fishing year round. Down side is salt corrosion, maybe worse than yours. |
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1,000 bucks? For an M38? Even in somewhat rough shape, that's a deal. Go for it. They are fun to drive. You either missed the post where it was bought for $600, towed into my garage. ;) Nice job. Now find a local MVPA chapter to join. |
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Isn't there some guy selling these in a crate for $500 minus the wheels and tires? I bought an M35A2 in 2010? for 670 dollars. 
In running, driving condition. With winch. AND it was a C-turbo "whistler." Paint was a bit rough, but otherwise in great shape. Had the GL guy pull start it with a fork lift, then drove it over to the loading dock to pick up a load of surplus boots, then drove it home 120 miles. At 50 mph.
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Uh, GPW or MB WWII jeeps didn't have a tailgate like the CJ-2 or CJ-3A. You can drop a reproduction GPW back body to eliminate that feature, or get handy with sheetmetal and welder. Edit: While not a "jeep" it certainly has flat fenders, my Bombardier licensed production of the VW/Audi Type 183 Iltis 1,7l 4cy gas water cooled 4WD with locking diff and low gear "gelande" gear: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/adlerarmory/84%20Bombardier%20Iltis/ISAF2.jpg Quoted:
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The mission: Rebuild as close to stock as possible Find on of our decorated family members to base its military designation off of as a replica Join this 4x4 club that is pretty awesome and make him work Family profit This does not need to be done soon, it won't be done soon. I keep getting busier and busier with work not accounting for the fact that I have a lot of homework to do. Going to load more photos now. You can drop a reproduction GPW back body to eliminate that feature, or get handy with sheetmetal and welder. Edit: While not a "jeep" it certainly has flat fenders, my Bombardier licensed production of the VW/Audi Type 183 Iltis 1,7l 4cy gas water cooled 4WD with locking diff and low gear "gelande" gear: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/adlerarmory/84%20Bombardier%20Iltis/ISAF2.jpg I had a Bundeswher VW version. The lack of available parts while I was stationed in Germany made me decide old vehicles aren't for me. |
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The mission: Rebuild as close to stock as possible Find on of our decorated family members to base its military designation off of as a replica Join this 4x4 club that is pretty awesome and make him work Family profit This does not need to be done soon, it won't be done soon. I keep getting busier and busier with work not accounting for the fact that I have a lot of homework to do. Going to load more photos now. You can drop a reproduction GPW back body to eliminate that feature, or get handy with sheetmetal and welder. Edit: While not a "jeep" it certainly has flat fenders, my Bombardier licensed production of the VW/Audi Type 183 Iltis 1,7l 4cy gas water cooled 4WD with locking diff and low gear "gelande" gear: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/adlerarmory/84%20Bombardier%20Iltis/ISAF2.jpg I sooooo want one of those! speed |
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My boss just called the WWII stuff MBs, which he said stood for "Military Bastard"! The returning Vets had enough of G.I. vehicles, their wives wanted civilian cars as well, so the only market was a place like the Outer Banks of NC, beach driving and fishing year round. Down side is salt corrosion, maybe worse than yours. Quoted:
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I am pretty sure this is a CJ2A. Help comforming? My boss just called the WWII stuff MBs, which he said stood for "Military Bastard"! The returning Vets had enough of G.I. vehicles, their wives wanted civilian cars as well, so the only market was a place like the Outer Banks of NC, beach driving and fishing year round. Down side is salt corrosion, maybe worse than yours. OP's is a civilian CJ-2a. The WWII Willys Jeeps were MBs and the Ford's were GPWs (which is where the name "Jeep" came from). The GPWs either had "Ford" or the Ford "F" on every single part (including bolts) because Henry was pissed that the military went with the Willys offering rather than his, and then the gov't contracted Ford to pick up the slack and manufacture his competitor's product because Willys couldn't handle the necessary output. 
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I am pretty sure this is a CJ2A. Help comforming? My boss just called the WWII stuff MBs, which he said stood for "Military Bastard"! The returning Vets had enough of G.I. vehicles, their wives wanted civilian cars as well, so the only market was a place like the Outer Banks of NC, beach driving and fishing year round. Down side is salt corrosion, maybe worse than yours. OP's is a civilian CJ-2a. The WWII Willys Jeeps were MBs and the Ford's were GPWs (which is where the name "Jeep" came from). The GPWs either had "Ford" or the Ford "F" on every single part (including bolts) because Henry was pissed that the military went with the Willys offering rather than his, and then the gov't contracted Ford to pick up the slack and manufacture his competitor's product because Willys couldn't handle the necessary output. Yup. I can't wait to take this thing to Bantam next year! It being an A2 is still unconfimed but I'll be looking up ways to better identify this guy today. I can't believe I own a piece of history, I'll be calling Chrysler today looking for more details. |
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It's a 2a. It's not an M-38, and it's definitely not a MB/GPW. I'm not sure any CJ-2as were produced specifically for US military use, I haven't ever heard of that.
Eta: http://www.thecj2apage.com/history.html Somewhere in there Olive Drab was added. Probably sometime in 1946 or 1947 as it is listed in the CJ-2A, 3A parts manual. It is assume by many that this color was used on models for military export. It should also be noted that a couple of foreign countries order CJ2A’s for use in their military. South Africa and the Swiss Armies are the only two I have been able to get a reference on. A little more is know about the CJ2A’s used by the Swiss Army. Pictures I have seen and what I have read reveal that many MB parts were used to produce these 2A’s. Now before you think you found a military CJ2A, read again where these 2A’s went. It is going to be very slim to none that there are any in the US. Remember, there is no know documentation or reason that our military ever used the CJ2A. There were still plenty of MB’s and GPW’s in inventory. I have seen one of the Swiss military CJ2A listed for sale in Supply Line, but it was in Ireland!! |
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money is does not create happiness - but it does help buy it... If I had the garage space, I would search your username, figure out where you live, and buy it out from under you I don't have the garage space - yet. --- My dad had 3 at one time. The goal was to cannibalize 1 for parts to keep the other 2 running. He hoped the redundancy would insure one good to go at any time - that turned out to be the exception. |
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Embeded I just so happen to have the powertrain. That is really cool. I'm just staring at this Jeep and googling everything CJ2A while not making any progress in getting the garage situated for this project. I am so fascinated right now. |
