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Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:05:49 PM EST
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I'd put money on a MB landfall.

If she shifts a bit north, landfall may be at....Landfall.

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 I'm going with two sets of water wings just to be safe
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:06:12 PM EST
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Meh, give it till Tuesday before checking. It's still early and every model with just cause stress
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:11:23 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:12:21 PM EST
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I'm starting my Santeria



Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:12:23 PM EST
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Tropical Tidbit for Sunday Evening, September 3rd, 2017


Tropical Tidbit for Sunday Evening, September 3rd, 2017
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:14:40 PM EST
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Damn.....

I bought a second generator today just because I have a bad feeling about this Fucker. There were only a few generators at Lowe's so I'm not the only one not waiting until Wednesday to prepare.

I'm west of D.C. 15 miles and my house is on a hill. Almost always hurricains are tropical storms by the time they reach here, but if this fucker is a 5 or 6 when it hits, It could still fuck everything good.

I filled all my gas cans. Padded my water supply. I'm stocked well. And urging friends to be prepared.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:19:02 PM EST
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yep, it's a fucking hurricane
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:20:00 PM EST
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I have a bad feeling about this one. I am going to start preparing to bug out from central Florida tomorrow. I'm ready to sit for a cat 2 or maybe 3 but not for a 4 or 5.
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If you're not on the coast why would you bug out?
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:21:11 PM EST
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I'm having similar discussions with my wife. I've got family west of RIC and might be invading for a few days if it's going to be that bad.
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Luckily, that storm hit on a weekend. If it had hit during the work week, a lot of people might have been stranded at where they work. I met a guy in the Reno airport that was a Navy dude here. He'd gotten his house flooded. He'd asked a friend of his to get him out but the guy couldn't get there even with a jacked up truck.

I'm not going to panic but if it looks like a Cat 4 or 5 is going to hit here, we're bugging out. If not, we're probably gonna be OK.
I'm having similar discussions with my wife. I've got family west of RIC and might be invading for a few days if it's going to be that bad.
I have a house in eastern Henrico County that I cannot sell so I'm renting it out thru a rental management company.  I hope it doesn't get shellacked.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:24:49 PM EST
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Told Mrs. Miami_JBT that she goes out to a safe zone with the pups while I ride out the storm if it hits Tally. 

Hopefully we won't get it. But I think FL is gonna get smacked. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:28:13 PM EST
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Told Mrs. Miami_JBT that she goes out to a safe zone with the pups while I ride out the storm if it hits Tally. 

Hopefully we won't get it. But I think FL is gonna get smacked. 
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I'd be shocked if it wound up in Tallanasty.  Not sure I've seen a single projection taking it that way.

There's a chance it hits Florida, but the way things sit now I'd hazard a guess that it skirts the Florida coast much like Matthew did and then either makes landfall further north or heads back out to sea.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:29:16 PM EST
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Tropical Tidbit for Sunday Evening, September 3rd, 2017


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thanks for posting this
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:32:40 PM EST
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That's definitely worth a watch.  Great video.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:37:11 PM EST
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Stay turned. Seeing out to sea still in play feels good. But GFS has been consistently murdering the Carolinas and the Euro control model basically trashes most of the Atlantic coast

http://i.imgur.com/ujfq2iM.gif

For every good model run there is a pants shittingly bad one. No way of knowing which it will be (or none of them)
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The models on the Hurricane Hunters website are forecasting 880mb pressures for this bitch. Pressure less than 920mb indicates Cat 5 status. 40mb passed Cat 5 threshold is....frightening as hell. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:41:22 PM EST
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That's the ship with the doppler radar in it's tail. It was flying through Harvey while Harvey was still out of range of shore based doppler. I was amazed at the radar products it sent back. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:49:32 PM EST
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That same $25 get me 10 gallons of gas and gets me 250 miles away from the coast.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:50:30 PM EST
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Brother, if this storm achieves 880mb pressures like is being forecast...you'd be lucky to have a foundation left, to have a house, to have a bathtub, to hold drinking water.

You'd be looking at 200+ mph sustained winds. An EF5 tornado has 200+ mph winds...but they're not sustained winds. This storm could be like an EF5 tornado that keeps blowing >200mph for a couple hours...or more.

I might suggest you skip the prep stuff and use that $25.00 to buy gasoline to un-ass the area. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:51:52 PM EST
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That same $25 get me 10 gallons of gas and gets me 250 miles away from the coast.
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Smartest post in this thread. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:51:56 PM EST
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We have two of those. They're a great idea.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:53:50 PM EST
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Not for a Cat 5 hurricane they aren't. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:54:13 PM EST
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Brother, if this storm achieves 880mb pressures like is being forecast...you'd be lucky to have a foundation left, to have a house, to have a bathtub, to hold drinking water.
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Can somebody explain the significance of the mb pressure levels?
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:57:36 PM EST
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Can somebody explain the significance of the mb pressure levels?
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The lowest recorded pressure ever in the Atlantic basin was Hurricane Wilma and it had 185 mph winds at that time. 882 mb was it's pressure.

Link Posted: 9/3/2017 8:57:48 PM EST
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Can somebody explain the significance of the mb pressure levels?
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Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:00:22 PM EST
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We have two of those. They're a great idea.
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If you have a garage, as 600 gallons weighs 4800 lbs.

Wallyworld 36 bucks


Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:00:22 PM EST
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Brother, if this storm achieves 880mb pressures like is being forecast...you'd be lucky to have a foundation left, to have a house, to have a bathtub, to hold drinking water.

You'd be looking at 200+ mph sustained winds. An EF5 tornado has 200+ mph winds...but they're not sustained winds. This storm could be like an EF5 tornado that keeps blowing >200mph for a couple hours...or more.

I might suggest you skip the prep stuff and use that $25.00 to buy gasoline to un-ass the area. 
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Didn't they already come out and say that pressure prediction was fake news?
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:02:33 PM EST
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If it heads towards South Carolina what will they do for Paris Island preps?
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:04:42 PM EST
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Didn't they already come out and say that pressure prediction was fake news?
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920 mb is still a Cat 5 Hurricane.

944 mb is still a Cat 4 Hurricane.

Katrina was technically a Cat 3 at landfall, but it was so large it carried a Cat 5 storm surge.

Either way it's gonna be a bad Hurricane if it makes landfall.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:05:18 PM EST
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Didn't they already come out and say that pressure prediction was fake news?
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Brother, if this storm achieves 880mb pressures like is being forecast...you'd be lucky to have a foundation left, to have a house, to have a bathtub, to hold drinking water.

You'd be looking at 200+ mph sustained winds. An EF5 tornado has 200+ mph winds...but they're not sustained winds. This storm could be like an EF5 tornado that keeps blowing >200mph for a couple hours...or more.

I might suggest you skip the prep stuff and use that $25.00 to buy gasoline to un-ass the area. 
Didn't they already come out and say that pressure prediction was fake news?
I've been hearing this as well.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:07:34 PM EST
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if you are at ground zero, you are correct, get out of Dodge. But , you can be 150 miles away and still be affected by power being out. no water etc.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:08:27 PM EST
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Watching with trepidation from Clearwater here... we live about 300-400feet from the bay.. not sure how much flooding is a risk for us where we are on this hurricane, but that is likely the least of the worries from the wind and rain.  While we stored up on food and water, if it looks to be as strong as it could be, we will be sure to unass the area ASAP (like, getting out ahead of the crowds..).   Blah, it wouldn't be so bad if i didnt have the image of Houston in my mind...
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:09:05 PM EST
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The models on the Hurricane Hunters website are forecasting 880mb pressures for this bitch. Pressure less than 920mb indicates Cat 5 status. 40mb passed Cat 5 threshold is....frightening as hell. 
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2017090318/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_33.png
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Chill out on the hysteria. The GFS model is not a reliable tropical model at all, and does not understand the upper air patterns that are at play here. The scenario above wont happen. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:10:17 PM EST
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920 mb is still a Cat 5 Hurricane.

944 mb is still a Cat 4 Hurricane.

Katrina was technically a Cat 3 at landfall, but it was so large it carried a Cat 5 storm surge.

Either way it's gonna be a bad Hurricane if it makes landfall.
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It does appear it will be bad for whomever take the hit but we don't have to go nuts with the fear mongering.  The odds this is the most powerful cane eva are pretty low.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:12:41 PM EST
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The models on the Hurricane Hunters website are forecasting 880mb pressures for this bitch. Pressure less than 920mb indicates Cat 5 status. 40mb passed Cat 5 threshold is....frightening as hell. 
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I'm 3/4 mile from the beach so if this happens we're getting out of the way.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:13:21 PM EST
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Not really fake news but the GFS models have been biased about 40-50 mb too low last couple of years. Euro models aren't much better this far out either.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:13:31 PM EST
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Watching with trepidation from Clearwater here... we live about 300-400feet from the bay.. not sure how much flooding is a risk for us where we are on this hurricane, but that is likely the least of the worries from the wind and rain.  While we stored up on food and water, if it looks to be as strong as it could be, we will be sure to unass the area ASAP (like, getting out ahead of the crowds..).   Blah, it wouldn't be so bad if i didnt have the image of Houston in my mind...
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Tampa Bay isn't a great place to be if the hurricane is in a position to push water into it.  I've see water crashing over the causeway with weak storms.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:13:52 PM EST
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Watching with trepidation from Clearwater here... we live about 300-400feet from the bay.. not sure how much flooding is a risk for us where we are on this hurricane, but that is likely the least of the worries from the wind and rain.  While we stored up on food and water, if it looks to be as strong as it could be, we will be sure to unass the area ASAP (like, getting out ahead of the crowds..).   Blah, it wouldn't be so bad if i didnt have the image of Houston in my mind...
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You would have real problems if it came up through the gulf and hit your area. I have seen models
that show St Pete under many feet of water. This storm would not push a storm surge up in the Bay
on your side.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:21:15 PM EST
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Tampa Bay isn't a great place to be if the hurricane is in a position to push water into it.  I've see water crashing over the causeway with weak storms.
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This is my neighborhood in St. Pete with high tide and a halfway decent rain storm.  I'm outta here if anything over a 2 comes calling.  Hell, I bought a lifted XJ just to be able to leave when it gets like this.  


Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:22:06 PM EST
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Can somebody explain the significance of the mb pressure levels?
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The lower the center of circulation's barometric pressure - the stronger the storm. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:24:58 PM EST
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The models on the Hurricane Hunters website are forecasting 880mb pressures for this bitch. Pressure less than 920mb indicates Cat 5 status. 40mb passed Cat 5 threshold is....frightening as hell. 
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Damn! I know it is just a model run and all, but still, that is just freaky! For comparison, Hurricane Camille's pressure was about 900 mb. Not even the 1935 Labor Day Hurricane (185 mph winds) featured a pressure that low. And look at how big GFS is forecasting this bitch to be. That is sizable storm.

I sure hope that model run doesn't verify. If it does, somewhere on the east coast is going to get fucked up beyond what most folks alive in the U.S. today have ever seen a hurricane do.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:28:43 PM EST
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Dude, it's the the GFS modeling software that arrives at those figures...not CNN. It's no more 'fake news' that your local weatherman on TV using the 'futurecast' radar images to illustrate the next days' forecast. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:29:41 PM EST
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Hurricane Irma Outlook for Sunday, September 3, 2017
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:29:59 PM EST
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I'd put money on a MB landfall.

If she shifts a bit north, landfall may be at....Landfall.

 I'm going with two sets of water wings just to be safe
If we weren't banned from using it, now would be an appropriate time for me to post that picture with the caption "you're gonna get loved tenderly"...

Stay safe. As much as I distrust the media, I don't want to see folks ignore warnings to flee and get drowned, or have to get stuck in a area where they have to pay $20 a gallon for fuel.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:31:24 PM EST
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This is my neighborhood in St. Pete with high tide and a halfway decent rain storm.  I'm outta here if anything over a 2 comes calling.  Hell, I bought a lifted XJ just to be able to leave when it gets like this.  

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Nasty.  It wasn't that long ago Bayshore was under like 4 ft of water.  I forgot about that.  Tampa Bay is gonna get hammered one of these days.  Charley almost did it, but turned in time.   He was moving too fast to really get the water pushed up i think but the winds were no joke.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:32:04 PM EST
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The lowest recorded pressure ever in the Atlantic basin was Hurricane Wilma and it had 185 mph winds at that time. 882 mb was it's pressure.

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"So that's BAD.  OK, important safety tip.  Thanks, Egon!"
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:33:22 PM EST
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Watching with trepidation from Clearwater here... we live about 300-400feet from the bay.. not sure how much flooding is a risk for us where we are on this hurricane, but that is likely the least of the worries from the wind and rain.  While we stored up on food and water, if it looks to be as strong as it could be, we will be sure to unass the area ASAP (like, getting out ahead of the crowds..).   Blah, it wouldn't be so bad if i didnt have the image of Houston in my mind...
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All the indications now are that if it hits Florida it will skirt up the east coast.  The west coast of Florida will be on the dry side and the storm surge in the Gulf will not be that bad.    I live in Central Florida and I see nothing that says that we should panic.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:41:24 PM EST
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I'd be shocked if it wound up in Tallanasty.  Not sure I've seen a single projection taking it that way.

There's a chance it hits Florida, but the way things sit now I'd hazard a guess that it skirts the Florida coast much like Matthew did and then either makes landfall further north or heads back out to sea.
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Told Mrs. Miami_JBT that she goes out to a safe zone with the pups while I ride out the storm if it hits Tally. 

Hopefully we won't get it. But I think FL is gonna get smacked. 
I'd be shocked if it wound up in Tallanasty.  Not sure I've seen a single projection taking it that way.

There's a chance it hits Florida, but the way things sit now I'd hazard a guess that it skirts the Florida coast much like Matthew did and then either makes landfall further north or heads back out to sea.
Weirder shit has happened. 
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:47:53 PM EST
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for people on the coast, elevationmap.net allows you to pick a spot and see how high above sea level it is.

I'm 31' above sea level in Pinellas County.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:50:44 PM EST
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Damn! I know it is just a model run and all, but still, that is just freaky! For comparison, Hurricane Camille's pressure was about 900 mb. Not even the 1935 Labor Day Hurricane (185 mph winds) featured a pressure that low. And look at how big GFS is forecasting this bitch to be. That is sizable storm.

I sure hope that model run doesn't verify. If it does, somewhere on the east coast is going to get fucked up beyond what most folks alive in the U.S. today have ever seen a hurricane do.
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Uhmm.  We just saw a large part of Texas totally fucked up.
Link Posted: 9/3/2017 9:53:33 PM EST
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All the indications now are that if it hits Florida it will skirt up the east coast.  The west coast of Florida will be on the dry side and the storm surge in the Gulf will not be that bad.    I live in Central Florida and I see nothing that says that we should panic.
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Eh... there are enough models showing it hitting Fl head-on that i am taking notice.
(I moved to FL 1.5 years ago, so i am still nailing down just how paranoid i need to be.  but the boy scout in me says.... be prepared).

That said, while i know surge wouldn't get blown in the bay, is there any risk of it getting sucked back in as it passes (again, if it is head-on)?
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