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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:21:58 PM EDT
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OK, I admit to not watching closely enough but, since this IS ARFCOM--
In some of the shots of Morgan with the M4, looks like a CMore on top; on others, looks like a Kobra---what was it? And also, on the Z Nation series--why do ALL the tacticool weapons have rails, but NEVER rock an optic? |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:25:30 PM EDT
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OK, I admit to not watching closely enough but, since this IS ARFCOM-- In some of the shots of Morgan with the M4, looks like a CMore on top; on others, looks like a Kobra---what was it? And also, on the Z Nation series--why do ALL the tacticool weapons have rails, but NEVER rock an optic? Note to self. Hord batteries 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:25:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:26:39 PM EDT
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One thing about Eastman's story. When he starved the psychopath to death, he then leaves for home in Atlanta. That's when he finds out that everything has collapsed. Since it took 47 days for him to die, and about a month for things to fall apart, it looks like he caught the psycho, put him in the cell, and up to about two weeks later the outbreak goes hot. Why is this relevant? The psycho died after the outbreak started, but did not turn. There's some lag time with whether or not you will turn after being killed at the beginning of the outbreak. So, whatever contagion causes this, it must have spread silently very quickly. But if you were quarantined effectively, you may be spared. So I don't think the contagion spread over a long period of time, and not everyone will necessarily have it. Oh, and I really liked this episode. I thought it was a great example of how resilient people can be and how they can adopt different viewpoints when faced with the same situation. Even though Eastman took a Life Positive path, he was no coward, or limp-wristed pussy. He had no trouble dispatching walkers and was not scared. Even when bit he kept things together. He struck me as someone calm and collected, not losing his water over shit. I mean, look at his place. He had his shit together. If the Curse of Morgan had not occurred, he would have perfected his goat cheese recipe, and maybe that young couple that Morgan met in the woods would have showed up instead, and the three of them could have lived and had a good run. There was never a point in the episode where Eastman mentioned whether he turned or not. For all we know, he did turn and Eastman put him down but doesn't feel a need to explain it to Morgan/viewer. He tells Morgan that after the guy died, and he heads home, that is when he finds out that the world had ended. He was in isolation, and did not know what was going on in the rest of the world. If the psycho turned after death, I'm sure Eastman would have noted the mind-bending oddness of it all and recounted that as part of his story to Morgan as that would be pretty fucking important. But no, he goes back to the world, expecting to turn himself into the police. NOT, "Oh shit! I have to tell the police that the undead are walking the earth." Thinking about...the director never shows Eastman's death as well. You might have a point. He was bitten, said "I'm erady now," and said that he had a handgun in a lockbox. The brain thing was taken care of either way. 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:30:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:36:27 PM EDT
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I enjoyed the episode a lot. I always wanted to see Morgan's story. It's common sense how it must have played out, but to think you know is different than to actually know.
I do think there's a place for him in Alexandria, but there's going to have to be a showdown between him and the up and coming Ricktator first. It'll probably be in the mid-season cliffhanger. Rick against Morgan. Rick will find out about the penned up Wolf and go to kill him. Morgan will face Rick down, trying to save his worthless hide. Will Rick kill Morgan for allowing such harm to come to those in his immediate family? Morgan could just go, "Chump don't want no hep, chump don't get no hep..." and wander off down the road again. He's used to living off the land. And whatever is going to happen to Deanna? She's the "leader" of Alexandria, she's the only one all the old-school pussy Alexandrians will listen to. What's the showdown between the Ricktator and Deanna going to be like? Based on the previews, it seems like she's losing her grasp on reality as well. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:42:27 PM EDT
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Saw this on another forum....hmmmmm....
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:45:59 PM EDT
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Saw this on another forum....hmmmmm.... https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189852_10203431330422874_2431957019732340286_n.jpg?oh=eee8fb319c53be2eccd0f871ba05d118&oe=56CE4163 Open the door! Open the door I say! In the name of King Arthur, open the door! |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:48:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly Heck not killing people that need it has now possibly cost Glenn his life too I cannot believe Morgan let that sob live twice now. There's no way that doesn't backfire. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What an ordeal that was. Morgan's only real skill seems to be getting others killed both directly and indirectly. ETA: Had he killed those guys in the woods they never would have found the backpack with the pics of the ASZ in it. If he hadn't choked at the walker version of the guy he killed at the start of the episode the Bald guy wouldn't have been bit. Now it seems he is determined to make thr same mistakes all over again with the wolf guy. The priniples Morgan is trying to live by are not workable in the world's state on the show. Rick already learned that lesson. Exactly Heck not killing people that need it has now possibly cost Glenn his life too I cannot believe Morgan let that sob live twice now. There's no way that doesn't backfire. Remember how dude gave him the ultimatum of staying or leaving but that he couldn't allow him to kill him? Yeah, well guess what. Morgan killed that guy. If not by having his little episode in the clearing, then by not braining two dudes he'd just killed, preventing them from turning into walkers. Fuck Morgan. He's a shitty character. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:53:24 PM EDT
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I think this was somewhat alluded to in Fear The Walking Dead's first one or two episodes when the radio broadcast first reported infections in five states (didn't name which ones) and then, a little later, in 12 states. That suggested a very easy, rapid transmission and overwhelmingly high infection rate. I suppose that you're right that there could be pockets of non-infected people, but I think that in this story any contact with an infected person would allow a swift, certain, and silent infection, making the likelihood that any place could remain infection free indefinitely rather unlikely. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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One thing about Eastman's story. When he starved the psychopath to death, he then leaves for home in Atlanta. That's when he finds out that everything has collapsed. Since it took 47 days for him to die, and about a month for things to fall apart, it looks like he caught the psycho, put him in the cell, and up to about two weeks later the outbreak goes hot. Why is this relevant? The psycho died after the outbreak started, but did not turn. There's some lag time with whether or not you will turn after being killed at the beginning of the outbreak. So, whatever contagion causes this, it must have spread silently very quickly. But if you were quarantined effectively, you may be spared. So I don't think the contagion spread over a long period of time, and not everyone will necessarily have it. Oh, and I really liked this episode. I thought it was a great example of how resilient people can be and how they can adopt different viewpoints when faced with the same situation. Even though Eastman took a Life Positive path, he was no coward, or limp-wristed pussy. He had no trouble dispatching walkers and was not scared. Even when bit he kept things together. He struck me as someone calm and collected, not losing his water over shit. I mean, look at his place. He had his shit together. If the Curse of Morgan had not occurred, he would have perfected his goat cheese recipe, and maybe that young couple that Morgan met in the woods would have showed up instead, and the three of them could have lived and had a good run. I think this was somewhat alluded to in Fear The Walking Dead's first one or two episodes when the radio broadcast first reported infections in five states (didn't name which ones) and then, a little later, in 12 states. That suggested a very easy, rapid transmission and overwhelmingly high infection rate. I suppose that you're right that there could be pockets of non-infected people, but I think that in this story any contact with an infected person would allow a swift, certain, and silent infection, making the likelihood that any place could remain infection free indefinitely rather unlikely. Or it could have been that Eastman buried the psychopath right after his death before he had time to turn. Andrea's sister took hours before she turned. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:54:13 PM EDT
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I love how every time there's a slow episode the artsy crowd comes out of the woodwork to explain how much they loved it, due to their profound intellect. I'm guessing they're the same people who post "Who?" whenever anyone mentions a celebrity, and/or make a point of telling people that they are only going to a concert to see the opening band. Or, you know, we genuinely liked something you didn't like. Who? |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Saw this on another forum....hmmmmm.... https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189852_10203431330422874_2431957019732340286_n.jpg?oh=eee8fb319c53be2eccd0f871ba05d118&oe=56CE4163 I rewatched that part to double check what was said, and it sounded like Rick yelling "Morgan, Open the Gate!" |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:57:09 PM EDT
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When Morgan's reading the art of peace. There seems to be a disclaimer in it.
Aikido means not to kill although nearly all creeds have a commandment against taking life, most of them justify killing for one reason or another. in Aikido however, we try to completely avoid killing even the most evil person. Could this be Morgan's out. Loophole to keep him in the community. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 1:59:13 PM EDT
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I rewatched that part to double check what was said, and it sounded like Rick yelling "Morgan, Open the Gate!" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saw this on another forum....hmmmmm.... https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189852_10203431330422874_2431957019732340286_n.jpg?oh=eee8fb319c53be2eccd0f871ba05d118&oe=56CE4163 I rewatched that part to double check what was said, and it sounded like Rick yelling "Morgan, Open the Gate!" I just rewatched and it sounded like "open the gate" and then repeated again. It did sound like Rick though....but he's in the RV. Hmmmm. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:04:27 PM EDT
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Tired, soooooo tired. Just don't watch the show if you can't accept the ebb and flow.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:05:59 PM EDT
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Gene's grip is almost correct. Way to go Gene.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:14:16 PM EDT
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I rewatched that part to double check what was said, and it sounded like Rick yelling "Morgan, Open the Gate!" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saw this on another forum....hmmmmm.... https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189852_10203431330422874_2431957019732340286_n.jpg?oh=eee8fb319c53be2eccd0f871ba05d118&oe=56CE4163 I rewatched that part to double check what was said, and it sounded like Rick yelling "Morgan, Open the Gate!" That's just it. according to the closed captioning, that was Glenn. well, Gene for the arfcommers. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:14:45 PM EDT
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Meh, I liked it. TWD needs to run a warning scroll before any episode that focuses on character development so that the ADHD crowd can double up on their Ritalin. Exactly. I enjoyed the episode, but then again, I appreciate character development. Which is why I rarely watch newer movies. Hell, I'd love to see a Daryl/Merle flashback episode. And the Governor (from the beginning) - that could be a mini-series. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:17:24 PM EDT
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Pics are from AMC's site.
Pretty impressive make-up effects on these walkers.   Pro Tip for the Zombie Apocalypse If you let someone take your CZ 83 away from you it'll be necessary to have a plan B. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:19:33 PM EDT
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When Morgan's reading the art of peace. There seems to be a disclaimer in it. Aikido means not to kill although nearly all creeds have a commandment against taking life, most of them justify killing for one reason or another. in Aikido however, we try to completely avoid killing even the most evil person. Could this be Morgan's out. Loophole to keep him in the community. "Morgan's out", how? If Morgan continues to NOT eliminate threats, and those threats go on to kill people. He is useless. Perhaps, less than useless. About the only thing he MIGHT be good for is defensive action, since apparently he believes in "sacrifice". He's like a tazer, tear gas, or a rubber bullet. He might slow someone down, perhaps even turn them around, but he's useless against a determined evil opponent. He's one step above the crazy kid, who didn't want to kill Walkers, "....because they're just people." If Carol recognizes this, she's going to show him the flowers. 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:23:12 PM EDT
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I just rewatched and it sounded like "open the gate" and then repeated again. It did sound like Rick though....but he's in the RV. Hmmmm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saw this on another forum....hmmmmm.... https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189852_10203431330422874_2431957019732340286_n.jpg?oh=eee8fb319c53be2eccd0f871ba05d118&oe=56CE4163 I rewatched that part to double check what was said, and it sounded like Rick yelling "Morgan, Open the Gate!" I just rewatched and it sounded like "open the gate" and then repeated again. It did sound like Rick though....but he's in the RV. Hmmmm. Or maybe Gene rescued Rick from the broken RV & they had to walk back together... |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:25:15 PM EDT
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Morgan is British? Good acting. He's really good in Low Winter Sun Is that show back on??? Low Winter Sun was cancelled... AMC renewed halt and catch fire with its ratings in the toilet but canceled LWS which had better numbers. Go figure. Maybe they were embarrassed because it was so awful. LWS was awesome. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:33:16 PM EDT
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Hardwick was super happy that Into the Badlands has no guns. WTF? Considering the number of people that will apparently be brutally killed with edged weapons in Badlands, seems just SLIGHTLY derpy to be rejoicing over the lack of firearms. More elegant weapon for a more civilized age, blah blah blah. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:45:40 PM EDT
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Well, the storyline for Badlands indicates that guns have been banned. I hardly think this is the Brady's getting into show development. After all, most martial arts movies from China rarely had guns in them. I think they are going for that vibe.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:46:00 PM EDT
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Here's an interesting question I had: does anyone else know Morgan has caught himself a wolf?
There does not appear to be much time passing between the initial attack and Morgan's little polite interrogation. And seeing as we do not see Morgan transporting him when he crosses paths with Carol in the immediate aftermath I'd assume that he konked him and put him in the drywall prison just before that scene. It would be really bad if Morgan tried to keep his little pet secret, as cuttywolf will probably jack-in-the-box the first person who tries to enter the drywall prison if they don't know he's there. (And we have that scene in the previews for next week of Porch Mom being surprised by someone with scraggly hair inside a house) I also find it humorous that everyone Morgan has tried to "let live" has been killed by Rick or Carol. And when Rick gets back he or Carol are probably going to kill cuttywolf as well. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:48:59 PM EDT
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Meh, I liked it. TWD needs to run a warning scroll before any episode that focuses on character development so that the ADHD crowd can double up on their Ritalin. Exactly. I enjoyed the episode, but then again, I appreciate character development. Which is why I rarely watch newer movies. Hell, I'd love to see a Daryl/Merle flashback episode. And the Governor (from the beginning) - that could be a mini-series. No. spent too much fucking time on that guy as it was |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:52:06 PM EDT
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Here's an interesting question I had: does anyone else know Morgan has caught himself a wolf? There does not appear to be much time passing between the initial attack and Morgan's little polite interrogation. And seeing as we do not see Morgan transporting him when he crosses paths with Carol in the immediate aftermath I'd assume that he konked him and put him in the drywall prison just before that scene. It would be really bad if Morgan tried to keep his little pet secret, as cuttywolf will probably jack-in-the-box the first person who tries to enter the drywall prison if they don't know he's there. (And we have that scene in the previews for next week of Porch Mom being surprised by someone with scraggly hair inside a house) I also find it humorous that everyone Morgan has tried to "let live" has been killed by Rick or Carol. And when Rick gets back he or Carol are probably going to kill cuttywolf as well. Him?? Was'nt he saving this guy? 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:55:14 PM EDT
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That's just it. according to the closed captioning, that was Glenn. well, Gene for the arfcommers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Saw this on another forum....hmmmmm.... https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189852_10203431330422874_2431957019732340286_n.jpg?oh=eee8fb319c53be2eccd0f871ba05d118&oe=56CE4163 I rewatched that part to double check what was said, and it sounded like Rick yelling "Morgan, Open the Gate!" That's just it. according to the closed captioning, that was Glenn. well, Gene for the arfcommers. Directv CC shows Rick yelling "open the gate" |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:56:19 PM EDT
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Considering the number of people that will apparently be brutally killed with edged weapons in Badlands, seems just SLIGHTLY derpy to be rejoicing over the lack of firearms. More elegant weapon for a more civilized age, blah blah blah. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/2/2015 2:57:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:02:53 PM EDT
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Him?? Was'nt he saving this guy? http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/b4/4c/b44c13b6bddd2313c5cc046d09c88ab8.png?itok=wFhDOwsq Father RunFromThePolice was only around to get saved by Morgan from that first wolf who Carol dispatched. Morgan was all alone when he encountered cuttywolf in that house, and in the confusion of the aftermath he could have dragged cuttywolf into the drywall prison unnoticed. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:03:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:05:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:08:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:08:19 PM EDT
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Saw this on another forum....hmmmmm.... https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12189852_10203431330422874_2431957019732340286_n.jpg?oh=eee8fb319c53be2eccd0f871ba05d118&oe=56CE4163 I rewatched that part to double check what was said, and it sounded like Rick yelling "Morgan, Open the Gate!" That's just it. according to the closed captioning, that was Glenn. well, Gene for the arfcommers. Directv CC shows Rick yelling "open the gate" My CC (Dish, FTR) also identified the speaker as "RICK," both at the end of this ep and in the TTD preview where Deanna is hearing it from her perspective. When I watched the episode it sounded like Rick to me. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:13:25 PM EDT
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If it is Gene at the gate, I wonder why we had a scene in the previews of Maggie gearing up to go out and about?
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:13:41 PM EDT
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There was never a point in the episode where Eastman mentioned whether he turned or not. For all we know, he did turn and Eastman put him down but doesn't feel a need to explain it to Morgan/viewer. There was never a method of disposal of the body either. He could have bashed his head in after he died. Or shot him in the head. Or whacked him with the staff in the head. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:14:20 PM EDT
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"Morgan's out", how? If Morgan continues to NOT eliminate threats, and those threats go on to kill people. He is useless. Perhaps, less than useless. About the only thing he MIGHT be good for is defensive action, since apparently he believes in "sacrifice". He's like a tazer, tear gas, or a rubber bullet. He might slow someone down, perhaps even turn them around, but he's useless against a determined evil opponent. He's one step above the crazy kid, who didn't want to kill Walkers, "....because they're just people." If Carol recognizes this, she's going to [span style='font-weight: bold;']show him the flowers.
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When Morgan's reading the art of peace. There seems to be a disclaimer in it. Aikido means not to kill although nearly all creeds have a commandment against taking life, most of them justify killing for one reason or another. in Aikido however, we try to completely avoid killing even the most evil person. Could this be Morgan's out. Loophole to keep him in the community. "Morgan's out", how? If Morgan continues to NOT eliminate threats, and those threats go on to kill people. He is useless. Perhaps, less than useless. About the only thing he MIGHT be good for is defensive action, since apparently he believes in "sacrifice". He's like a tazer, tear gas, or a rubber bullet. He might slow someone down, perhaps even turn them around, but he's useless against a determined evil opponent. He's one step above the crazy kid, who didn't want to kill Walkers, "....because they're just people." If Carol recognizes this, she's going to [span style='font-weight: bold;']show him the flowers.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:15:53 PM EDT
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No different than Sasha's brother, whatever his name was. Personally, if you have a code that insists you not kill people like Wolf Guy, fine. Tourniquet his forearms 3" above the wrist, lop his hands off and cauterize them with a blowtorch. There. He's no longer a threat, and you haven't killed him. Then again, if you're going to insist on going nonlethal, you need to let somebody else have your cool ass biscuit, and raid the local police stations for beanbag rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How could he just leave the wolf in the house alive, especially after he just stated, with a smile on his face no less, that his "code". required that he kill every man, woman, "...and the children too". Just wait until he escapes and kills Judith and then Rick finds out Morgan was the cause of it by letting him live. No different than Sasha's brother, whatever his name was. Personally, if you have a code that insists you not kill people like Wolf Guy, fine. Tourniquet his forearms 3" above the wrist, lop his hands off and cauterize them with a blowtorch. There. He's no longer a threat, and you haven't killed him. Then again, if you're going to insist on going nonlethal, you need to let somebody else have your cool ass biscuit, and raid the local police stations for beanbag rounds. 
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:16:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:19:53 PM EDT
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"We practiced our stick fighting in Gay, GA" sounds very homoerotic My CC showed that he said "Gabe"... but I couldn't find a Georgia town named "Gabe," while "Gay, GA" really exists.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:20:07 PM EDT
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Hardwick took a shot at Bush last night too - he's probably a flaming liberal. He may or may not be a liberal. I don't know. I didn't hear a shot at Bush. The one guy was making fun of monarchies... "We don't have Presidents producing our next Presidents." And Hardwick laughed and pointed out the Bushes... Yes we had father/son presidencies, so we HAVE had that happen. Nothing more. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:21:44 PM EDT
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Remember how dude gave him the ultimatum of staying or leaving but that he couldn't allow him to kill him? Yeah, well guess what. Morgan killed that guy. If not by having his little episode in the clearing, then by not braining two dudes he'd just killed, preventing them from turning into walkers. Fuck Morgan. He's a shitty character. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What an ordeal that was. Morgan's only real skill seems to be getting others killed both directly and indirectly. ETA: Had he killed those guys in the woods they never would have found the backpack with the pics of the ASZ in it. If he hadn't choked at the walker version of the guy he killed at the start of the episode the Bald guy wouldn't have been bit. Now it seems he is determined to make thr same mistakes all over again with the wolf guy. The priniples Morgan is trying to live by are not workable in the world's state on the show. Rick already learned that lesson. Exactly Heck not killing people that need it has now possibly cost Glenn his life too I cannot believe Morgan let that sob live twice now. There's no way that doesn't backfire. Remember how dude gave him the ultimatum of staying or leaving but that he couldn't allow him to kill him? Yeah, well guess what. Morgan killed that guy. If not by having his little episode in the clearing, then by not braining two dudes he'd just killed, preventing them from turning into walkers. Fuck Morgan. He's a shitty character. No actually Morgan is a great character. Look how much time we spend talking about him. We may not like his character but it's a great "character" for the show. Kind of like the Laurie syndrome from Season 1 & 2. Everyone hated her and couldnt wait for her to die. Great character. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:25:05 PM EDT
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Wasn't EVERYONE ready to see how last week's totally awesome episode, would play out tonight, with Gene and Rick? I assumed that most people who follow the show had figured out well before last night that this episode would likely be Morgan-centric and it might (probably will?) be at least another week or two before we learn of Gene's fate. (FTR, Gimple stated that it would be resolved before the mid-season break and "sooner rather than later," so I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is addressed in the next ep, or maybe the one after that.) |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:25:56 PM EDT
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My closed caption says it's Rick yelling at the gate,
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:28:19 PM EDT
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Halfway through tonight's episode. Terrible fight scene between Morgan and his new host. Like really bad. In fact, I find Morgan to be a lame character. Lynch ("Eastman") only had 5 days to learn/practice any staff technique before they filmed. Given his otherwise excellent portrayal of this character, I can forgive the sloppy fight scene. YMMV. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:36:33 PM EDT
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Wasn't rick open mic when wolfglock came through the door blasting? I don't remember. Pretty sure he had just keyed it to say something when they burst in, and that Darryl heard whatever of it he heard over the radio... at least that was my impression, not completely sure.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:37:09 PM EDT
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No actually Morgan is a great character. Look how much time we spend talking about him. We may not like his character but it's a great "character" for the show. Kind of like the Laurie syndrome from Season 1 & 2. Everyone hated her and couldnt wait for her to die. Great character. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What an ordeal that was. Morgan's only real skill seems to be getting others killed both directly and indirectly. ETA: Had he killed those guys in the woods they never would have found the backpack with the pics of the ASZ in it. If he hadn't choked at the walker version of the guy he killed at the start of the episode the Bald guy wouldn't have been bit. Now it seems he is determined to make thr same mistakes all over again with the wolf guy. The priniples Morgan is trying to live by are not workable in the world's state on the show. Rick already learned that lesson. Exactly Heck not killing people that need it has now possibly cost Glenn his life too I cannot believe Morgan let that sob live twice now. There's no way that doesn't backfire. Remember how dude gave him the ultimatum of staying or leaving but that he couldn't allow him to kill him? Yeah, well guess what. Morgan killed that guy. If not by having his little episode in the clearing, then by not braining two dudes he'd just killed, preventing them from turning into walkers. Fuck Morgan. He's a shitty character. No actually Morgan is a great character. Look how much time we spend talking about him. We may not like his character but it's a great "character" for the show. Kind of like the Laurie syndrome from Season 1 & 2. Everyone hated her and couldnt wait for her to die. Great character. I'm just sad that it seems like Morgan was a cool guy kicking ass and taking names, he disappeared, then came back as a bleeding heart pacifist. It's like he went away to college.
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:41:30 PM EDT
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I'm just sad that it seems like Morgan was a cool guy kicking ass and taking names, he disappeared, then came back as a bleeding heart pacifist. It's like he went away to college. I think Talking Dead hit on his nature pretty accurately... Morgan due to his mental state is very binary, he is either full on "Clear" or full on "Cheesus". A man of absolutes... which is what makes him an interesting character for me as you cannot hold a moral position like he holds in the world of the walking dead for long. |
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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:41:34 PM EDT
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This. I enjoyed the episode quite a bit. You'd think the people who've been bitching for 3 weeks about Morgan's refusal to kill people would at least appreciate knowing WHY he's that way now. He's clearly terrified that killing someone will put him back in "clear" mode and he'll never return. He's not mentally cured, he's just found a way to keep a tenuous hold on his control. I found it to be well written and acted, with the exception of how Eastman was bitten. It was too contrived, considering the multitude of ways Eastman could have intervened that wouldn't have gotten him killed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, I liked it. TWD needs to run a warning scroll before any episode that focuses on character development so that the ADHD crowd can double up on their Ritalin. This. I enjoyed the episode quite a bit. You'd think the people who've been bitching for 3 weeks about Morgan's refusal to kill people would at least appreciate knowing WHY he's that way now. He's clearly terrified that killing someone will put him back in "clear" mode and he'll never return. He's not mentally cured, he's just found a way to keep a tenuous hold on his control. I found it to be well written and acted, with the exception of how Eastman was bitten. It was too contrived, considering the multitude of ways Eastman could have intervened that wouldn't have gotten him killed. Agreed. No way they could keep up the pace of the first few episodes throughout the season, and this made a nice counterpoint to the other episodes so far. I think when all is said and done, this full season will have more "action" on average than all previous ones. Time will tell... |
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