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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:56:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Those people around here were mostly Democrat voters for years. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:56:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Point is, I don’t have a big circle of friends and I know a bunch that were pissed about the Roe v. Wade thing. You need better friends, or an even smaller circle  Seriously, RvW was just another excuse, but it had very little to do with changing voters' minds. If those voters were that sensitive, that emotional, that on-the-fence, and that clueless as to the actual ruling, I doubt they even know what the "R" stands for on the ballot to begin with. And, if guys are pissed about the ruling, they are either pissed because their liberal significant other is ranting and raving at them or they're afraid guys will end up having to pay 18 years of child support because they're too damn dense and lazy to put a fucking condom on their pecker. How about we still just have too many damn apathetic voters who think they're conservative or patriots, but too damn lazy to get off their ass and go vote. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you win the court case, you lose. -GD By some of GD's logic, we better not with any 2A cases in the SC. WE'RE GONNA LOOSE!!!
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:57:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at most women's social media and say the two arent linked with a straight face |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:57:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. We can, and have repeatedly throughout the thread, answered your question. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ... and the reason I asked it the way I did was to include the last link in the chain: showing (not guessing) that this *happened.* Everything is a mess. Is exit polling stating that this was the motivating factor for many/most women, insufficient? If so, I'm not sure what proof you'd accept. Or what proof you believe is ordinarily available in analyzing political science questions. Turnout analysis, segmented by sex and age and previous midterm participation, might help. Yes. I asked something that can't be answered. I asked it in the easiest way possible for people to answer ... it doesn't even require empirical analysis to answer it in the form I gave it. The reason I asked a question that can't be answered is *because people are saying that the one caused the other.* They're saying the one caused the other - when they can't answer the question. No. We can, and have repeatedly throughout the thread, answered your question. The only way I can think of where you could believe this, is if you did the classic "the author said the curtains are blue because he's depressed" kind of reading to what I asked. I asked for people to fill in the blank in the specific way that would causally link the two and make the conclusion unavoidable. For those who have tried, I have interacted with them as if they tried. You are expecting a physical science's level of conclusiveity for an answer to a social science question. No, I wasn't and am not. I have asked for a syllogism as an answer because I wanted it in the coherent form - rational. Not empirical and not as social science answer. Sometimes, a thing is just what it is on it's face. Which doesn't ever exist. There are too many confounding factors. However, that is not the same thing as saying that an answer to the poly sci problem doesn't exist. Here, one does, and that appears to be that the repeal of Roe drove increased pro-abortion leaning women to turnout in this election vs previous midterms, in multiple jurisdictions, and those women predominantly voted D. Again, there are confounding factors. There always are. ClayHollisterTT's point upthread about fixing the electoral process is a must, and one of the largest confounding factors to determining causation for these election results. In the post you're replying to here I said it can't be answered empirically - so we're agreeing with each other. I've been "on" about elections being secured and honest here since I saw how bad it was in 2020 and there are plenty of posts from me floating around arf on that topic. We've joked and known about the democrat margin of fraud for a long time, but in 2020 they changed it from a margin to an endless black hole. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:58:29 PM EDT
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The flyers the Dem candidates sent out here all basically stated "Vote for us because Abortion".
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:58:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sacrificing babies. Tanit/Baal-Hamon/Moloch must be appeased. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So people voted for murdering babies? Sacrificing babies. Tanit/Baal-Hamon/Moloch must be appeased. Our nation can't prosper if they aren't appeased. 
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Posted: 11/9/2022 1:59:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then get used to losing, bro. The GOP needs to leave abortion, religion and gays alone. They need to run as the "freedom" party. Lower taxes, smaller .gov and stay the out of people lives. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Mary is wrong to have had an abortion and it's wrong for her to have been able to get one and I suspect most of the reasons why abortions are sought are messed up and shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's messed up that mary thinks and acts the way she does and did on this topic, and it's wrong to base our society off how she thinks and acts. It's no different than basing our society off the morals and actions of people in the insane asylums for criminals. Then get used to losing, bro. The GOP needs to leave abortion, religion and gays alone. They need to run as the "freedom" party. Lower taxes, smaller .gov and stay the out of people lives. The world is not what you say it is merely because you say it. You can't answer the question either, even though what you just posted means you have to be able to. Unless you're content to just assume. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Voter turnout & exit polling will have the likely answer(s), but abortion was definitely a motivator. Thankful that Roe was overturned. 
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:01:05 PM EDT
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You are beyond help if you think it had no impact on the election results.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:05:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Many people, especially women (call me a sexist, but not a misogynist) don't let reason get in the way of being irrational and emotional. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Reasons don't matter on this issue. You could deliver a treatise on the necessity for Roe's repeal that would make Aristotle weep with its flawless logic, and It. Would. Not. Matter. Women would still be disproportionately pissed off at you for getting rid of it, and would seek means to punish those that did it. Regardless of what logic, or Constitutional principles would dictate. This. Many people, especially women (call me a sexist, but not a misogynist) don't let reason get in the way of being irrational and emotional. The irony is, they do that because they think their actions will lead to them getting what they want. They're using logic. Wrongly and poorly, but they are. Or for the more coherent ones, they're just openly willing to admit they know it's a wrongful killing the child doesn't deserve, but they don't care about that, they just don't want the child. I've met a couple like that. One of the ironies of life: if you so much as utter a word, you have to presume logic is true, and demand the other hearer use it. Than the very same person will turn around and try to deny rationality. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:06:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even red states Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don’t care if we did. It was worth it. Dead babies vs 2 more years. No brainer. Except now states are amending their constitutions to allow murdering of babies. Even red states ... IMO that's one of the things that's making discussion of nullification and secession a topic that can be discussed in the mainstream. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:06:38 PM EDT
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Every single state where an abortion measure was on the ballot this cycle abortion won, including red states like KY, MT, and KS.
Its a losing issue, that hopefully can be contained to one cycle. However, I think both misguided republicans "hey lets put a ballot initiative on banning abortion", and opportunistic democrats "lets put a ballot initiative on legalizing abortion" will drag this into the next cycle. On a national level, republicans need to say absolutely nothing about abortion for, say, a year, before a major election. The party platform should be, its a state problem now, and we'll never regulate it federally. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:06:50 PM EDT
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Wall Street Journal How We Voted in the 2022 Midterm Elections
How We Voted in the 2022 Midterm Elections A pre-election and Election Day survey interviewed about 115,000 people who said they voted in the election or intended to. Here are the AP VoteCast results. "The legality of abortion wasn’t on the minds for many Americans heading into the 2018 and 2020 elections with only 2% and 3%, respectively saying it was their top issue. However, since the Supreme Court ruled in Dobbs vs. Jackson in late June that the Constitution doesn’t confer a right to an abortion, 10% called it the most important. Unlike previous elections, it was Democrats that made it a top issue."  Most important issue for voters abortion 9% Breakdown by party: Democrats 78% Republicans 20% Do you favor or oppose each of the following? A law guaranteeing access to legal abortion nationwide? D% R% Strongly favor 78 19 Somewhat favor 42 55 Somewhat oppose 21 75 Strongly oppose 12 87 View of abortion Share D% R% Illegal in all cases 8 17 80 Mostly illegal 29 14 84 Mostly legal 35 55 42 Legal in all cases 28 78 18 Which comes closest to your opinion on abortion? Should abortion be... SHARE% Legal in all/most cases 62 Illegal in all/most cases 37 In the article, you can break it down by state and more. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:08:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are beyond help if you think it had no impact on the election results. I don't think that. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. If “Mary” was in fact a Catholic, she should know that by procuring an abortion she incurred a latae sententiae excommunication. Unfortunately, she might not actually know this. Novus Ordon’t |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:09:44 PM EDT
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It's not what happened in-between the RvW decision and the election, it's what happened before.
We allowed women to vote. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:10:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In Michigan the lines hours long in college towns voting for our pro abortion constitutional amendment (Prop 3) most definitely had an impact on other ballot races. It motivated and excelled turnout in heavy democrat areas. More democrat voters ensured we now have a democrat Governor, AG and SoS still and didn't pick up house seats we were expecting to win. ETA I'm not disappointed Roe was overturned I'm ecstatic it was. However, to say it had no impact on other races is foolish. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:14:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Single women (esp young) are the bread and butter for the Democrats. They were never going to vote for a Republican anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Look at most women's social media and say the two arent linked with a straight face Single women (esp young) are the bread and butter for the Democrats. They were never going to vote for a Republican anyway. Of course. Pandering to them isn’t going to work. With any luck this issue will keep the leftists out of red states. Blue states are basically lost at this point. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:14:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those people around here were mostly Democrat voters for years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Those people around here were mostly Democrat voters for years. No. They voted with they way their husband thinks. Take away the one thing that gave them their fairytale life and they will vote against it. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:15:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every single state where an abortion measure was on the ballot this cycle abortion won, including red states like KY, MT, and KS. Its a losing issue, that hopefully can be contained to one cycle. However, I think both misguided republicans "hey lets put a ballot initiative on banning abortion", and opportunistic democrats "lets put a ballot initiative on legalizing abortion" will drag this into the next cycle. On a national level, republicans need to say absolutely nothing about abortion for, say, a year, before a major election. The party platform should be, its a state problem now, and we'll never regulate it federally. It should have always been a state issue, now it is. We win. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:18:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course. Pandering to them isn’t going to work. With any luck this issue will keep the leftists out of red states. Blue states are basically lost at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Look at most women's social media and say the two arent linked with a straight face Single women (esp young) are the bread and butter for the Democrats. They were never going to vote for a Republican anyway. Of course. Pandering to them isn’t going to work. With any luck this issue will keep the leftists out of red states. Blue states are basically lost at this point. You run viable candidates in blue states with support in order to force the left to burn up resources. Use small but viable to win resources to tie down big resources, and if you get a win, take it, and keep pushing. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:19:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. They voted with they way their husband thinks. Take away the one thing that gave them their fairytale life and they will vote against it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Those people around here were mostly Democrat voters for years. No. They voted with they way their husband thinks. Take away the one thing that gave them their fairytale life and they will vote against it. Not around here. Suzie soccer moms have had Democrat signs in front of their houses for the 20 years I have been here. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. They voted with they way their husband thinks. Take away the one thing that gave them their fairytale life and they will vote against it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Those people around here were mostly Democrat voters for years. No. They voted with they way their husband thinks. Take away the one thing that gave them their fairytale life and they will vote against it. If it's a fairytale, they're the villlans, waiting for their just punishments. The old fairytales would have such women dance to death in red hot metal shoes; they were not nice about this stuff. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:20:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You run viable candidates in blue states with support in order to force the left to burn up resources. Use small but viable to win resources to tie down big resources, and if you get a win, take it, and keep pushing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Look at most women's social media and say the two arent linked with a straight face Single women (esp young) are the bread and butter for the Democrats. They were never going to vote for a Republican anyway. Of course. Pandering to them isn’t going to work. With any luck this issue will keep the leftists out of red states. Blue states are basically lost at this point. You run viable candidates in blue states with support in order to force the left to burn up resources. Use small but viable to win resources to tie down big resources, and if you get a win, take it, and keep pushing. Yeah, you have to make them work for it. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:27:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, you have to make them work for it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Look at most women's social media and say the two arent linked with a straight face Single women (esp young) are the bread and butter for the Democrats. They were never going to vote for a Republican anyway. Of course. Pandering to them isn’t going to work. With any luck this issue will keep the leftists out of red states. Blue states are basically lost at this point. You run viable candidates in blue states with support in order to force the left to burn up resources. Use small but viable to win resources to tie down big resources, and if you get a win, take it, and keep pushing. Yeah, you have to make them work for it. Watching desantis do *well* in districts that were D+ ... what, almost 30 for WPBeach? Was surreal. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:30:59 PM EDT
[#28]
Keep your heads in the sand and keep trying to be the morality police. Get used to losing...
Bama is right... Quoted: Suburban white women control elections. 93% of them want abortion available in the first trimester. If you can't accept that the majority of women are good with murdering their own child it's you, not them. They would rather be able to kill their babies than have cheap gas. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:34:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep your heads in the sand and keep trying to be the morality police. Get used to losing... Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep your heads in the sand and keep trying to be the morality police. Get used to losing... We should agree with you... because ... You say we should?  Quoted: Bama is right... Quoted: Suburban white women control elections. 93% of them want abortion available in the first trimester. If you can't accept that the majority of women are good with murdering their own child it's you, not them. They would rather be able to kill their babies than have cheap gas. ... and you know this is responsible for how the midterms have so far turned out ... how? You'll never be able to come up with a good answer. ETA: also, people willing to have their unborn children intentionally killed for the heinous sin of existing can also apply that logic to others they find equally hateful for existing and push to have them unable to have a firearm or other defensive weapon. So we should give up on the 2a in this country. We don't want to keep losing. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:34:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching desantis do *well* in districts that were D+ ... what, almost 30 for WPBeach? Was surreal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Look at most women's social media and say the two arent linked with a straight face Single women (esp young) are the bread and butter for the Democrats. They were never going to vote for a Republican anyway. Of course. Pandering to them isn’t going to work. With any luck this issue will keep the leftists out of red states. Blue states are basically lost at this point. You run viable candidates in blue states with support in order to force the left to burn up resources. Use small but viable to win resources to tie down big resources, and if you get a win, take it, and keep pushing. Yeah, you have to make them work for it. Watching desantis do *well* in districts that were D+ ... what, almost 30 for WPBeach? Was surreal. That’s impossible. His position on abortion is clear. https://democrats.org/news/breaking-desantis-administration-planning-near-total-abortion-ban/ |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:37:04 PM EDT
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Explain states like New Hampshire, Georgia, and Ohio where the republican governor significantly outperformed the republican senate candidate. In New Hampshire and Ohio it was more than 10 points. In Georgia it was 5. You think abortion is leading people to vote for republican governors but not for republican senate candidates?
There is an explanation there. It isn’t abortion |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:40:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Explain states like New Hampshire, Georgia, and Ohio where the republican governor significantly outperformed the republican senate candidate. In New Hampshire and Ohio it was more than 10 points. In Georgia it was 5. You think abortion is leading people to vote for republican governors but not for republican senate candidates? There is an explanation there. It isn’t abortion Especially since abortion is a states issue. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are we really incompetent to supply one sentence? "roe v wade was overturned" "Therefore we did badly in the midterms" What goes between those that causally links them. Will any of you even TRY? It’s simple. For a lot of people RvW is important. Like 2A important. So the answer is “Republicans appointed the current ideological makeup of the court. We don’t like the current ideological makeup of the court. Therefore we must not elect more Republicans.” It’s disingenuous and pedantic to suggest you don’t understand this. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:51:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Millions of white suburban women who are so worried about their (and their daughter’s) “right” to murder unborn babies, voted D this cycle, largely the same group of women who “could not” vote for Trump. Never mind that on every other policy issue they voted to totally fuck themselves (and the rest of us) over their feelings. Republicans are fucked moving forward. So, ban the burbz. Get the environmentalmidgets to draft local ordinances banning new housing construction because Muh natural resources and trees and shit. Problem solved. Problem staying solved. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:52:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because clearly, what I posted said that I'm a chad. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are we really incompetent to supply one sentence? "roe v wade was overturned" "Therefore we did badly in the midterms" What goes between those that causally links them. Will any of you even TRY? Are you so gifted with the power of autism that you cannot read the posts in your thread unless they conform to your Mad Libs? Funny how arf can talk about the decline of testosterone, the decline of masculinity, discuss how you ought to keep your body in shape and train, and how males in particular shouldn't be controlled by their emotions - heck, we even get questions of what to use for coffee pots with no plastic and thus less/ no bpa/etc in them... ... and yet be so pathetically weak at lifting even the lightest weight mentally. Any damn excuse to punk out if it requires thinking. We have nuclear scientists and engineers and literal math wizards, guys who fab cars up in their garages, and yet on this?  You’re avoiding the truth by hiding behind this air of pseudo intellectualism and pseudo masculinity. Because clearly, what I posted said that I'm a chad. *pseudo-chad |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:54:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those people around here were mostly Democrat voters for years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Those people around here were mostly Democrat voters for years. Honestly, maybe Mary had a steady b/f in high school and accidentally got pregnant. But same end result. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:55:16 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then get used to losing, bro. The GOP needs to leave abortion, religion and gays alone. They need to run as the "freedom" party. Lower taxes, smaller .gov and stay the fuck out of people lives. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Mary is wrong to have had an abortion and it's wrong for her to have been able to get one and I suspect most of the reasons why abortions are sought are messed up and shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's messed up that mary thinks and acts the way she does and did on this topic, and it's wrong to base our society off how she thinks and acts. It's no different than basing our society off the morals and actions of people in the insane asylums for criminals. Then get used to losing, bro. The GOP needs to leave abortion, religion and gays alone. They need to run as the "freedom" party. Lower taxes, smaller .gov and stay the fuck out of people lives. Just don’t call it libertarianism because that will cause both parties to reee themselves into oblivion. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:04:02 PM EDT
[#38]
they don't want to blame their "moderate Republican" wives and daughters who value abortion uber alles
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:04:54 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, maybe Mary had a steady b/f in high school and accidentally got pregnant. But same end result. Accidentally.  Yes. Slipped and fell on dick. It's 2022. The whole equality thing... @WhiskersTheCat we need to make an Osha training video about manual labor and the dangers of women on ladders. They might fall on dick and get preggers on the job. Abortion on workers comp claims. For accidental pregnancy. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:06:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Accidentally. Yes. Slipped and fell on dick. It's 2022. The whole equality thing... @WhiskersTheCat we need to make an Osha training video about manual labor and the dangers of women on ladders. They might fall on dick and get preggers on the job. Abortion on workers comp claims. For accidental pregnancy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Honestly, maybe Mary had a steady b/f in high school and accidentally got pregnant. But same end result. Accidentally. Yes. Slipped and fell on dick. It's 2022. The whole equality thing... @WhiskersTheCat we need to make an Osha training video about manual labor and the dangers of women on ladders. They might fall on dick and get preggers on the job. Abortion on workers comp claims. For accidental pregnancy. Beware of penis |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:06:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ignore reality, live in the arfcom echo chamber and keep your head buried in the sand.... Reality sucks... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The women you know are scumbags Sorry Ignore reality, live in the arfcom echo chamber and keep your head buried in the sand.... Reality sucks... Don't OD on that copium. PraesidiumFabrica is right - and more right wing than you. Out-rightwinged by a Zoomer, ooof. 
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:08:23 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not just kill the actual welfare leaches then? Having your enemy eliminate themselves is less complications. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:08:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can spout off and demand all you want but your framework is silly. You aren’t going to get a concrete answer. Like I said elsewhere, you aren’t going to get sworn affadavits as to why people swung their votes. The game is most often won in the margins not the mainstream. I have said it elsewhere before.....since RVW was overturned I have seen many otherwise moderate or conservative women express their displeasure at the ruling. The libs were already in the D camp, RvW certainly trumped the economy on the ones that may have voted for an R or stayed home. I saw it expressed in people’s own words. People I know. Lots of them. ETA- foolsbook had most of them expressing themselves on the topic where they feel comfortable. Most wouldn’t talk about it with men folk or have an uncomfortable conversation of differing ideas. Yet the opinion was there on the topic. How many more had the same opinion but never expressed it anywhere because it is a confrontational issue? lots more therefore I pretty much knew this was going to have a negative effect, to what degree I was of course unsure. did the media make this mole hill a mountain? certainly, it has been the thing that replaced the republicans are going to steal grandma’s SS. shouting prove it is just childish. Your demanding tone makes you the ass rather than a superior intellect. Logic 101 doesn’t apply. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not the one who blamed the midterms on roe: And various other posts thoroughout the thread, and that group has surfaced every other time the abort topic comes up in arf that I've seen since I started reading the site, much less since I joined. So ... I should shut up and not expect an answer ... is your demand, and your terms. ^^^^ that could be the last cell in a meme, right there. You can spout off and demand all you want but your framework is silly. You aren’t going to get a concrete answer. Like I said elsewhere, you aren’t going to get sworn affadavits as to why people swung their votes. The game is most often won in the margins not the mainstream. I have said it elsewhere before.....since RVW was overturned I have seen many otherwise moderate or conservative women express their displeasure at the ruling. The libs were already in the D camp, RvW certainly trumped the economy on the ones that may have voted for an R or stayed home. I saw it expressed in people’s own words. People I know. Lots of them. ETA- foolsbook had most of them expressing themselves on the topic where they feel comfortable. Most wouldn’t talk about it with men folk or have an uncomfortable conversation of differing ideas. Yet the opinion was there on the topic. How many more had the same opinion but never expressed it anywhere because it is a confrontational issue? lots more therefore I pretty much knew this was going to have a negative effect, to what degree I was of course unsure. did the media make this mole hill a mountain? certainly, it has been the thing that replaced the republicans are going to steal grandma’s SS. shouting prove it is just childish. Your demanding tone makes you the ass rather than a superior intellect. Logic 101 doesn’t apply. They are neither moderate, nor conservative. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:10:50 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't it funny how I'm ridiculous and stupid and a troll, and yet... you don't have an answer? Neither do you. There is no answer to a rhetorical question. Once again, you’re trolling. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:11:01 PM EDT
[#45]
Are you serious (OP)??? Have you heard or seen a political ad this season??? It's 90% ABORTION ABORTION, ABORTION from the scummy Dimocrats.
The other 10% is outrageous lies about how they support bipartisanship, border control, Second Amendment, funding the police, etc. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:11:05 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s simple. For a lot of people RvW is important. Like 2A important. So the answer is “Republicans appointed the current ideological makeup of the court. We don’t like the current ideological makeup of the court. Therefore we must not elect more Republicans.” It’s disingenuous and pedantic to suggest you don’t understand this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are we really incompetent to supply one sentence? "roe v wade was overturned" "Therefore we did badly in the midterms" What goes between those that causally links them. Will any of you even TRY? It’s simple. For a lot of people RvW is important. Like 2A important. So the answer is “Republicans appointed the current ideological makeup of the court. We don’t like the current ideological makeup of the court. Therefore we must not elect more Republicans.” It’s disingenuous and pedantic to suggest you don’t understand this. You just told everyone that you didn't read the thread without saying you didn't. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:11:45 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then get used to losing, bro. The GOP needs to leave abortion, religion and gays alone. They need to run as the "freedom" party. Lower taxes, smaller .gov and stay the fuck out of people lives. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Mary is wrong to have had an abortion and it's wrong for her to have been able to get one and I suspect most of the reasons why abortions are sought are messed up and shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's messed up that mary thinks and acts the way she does and did on this topic, and it's wrong to base our society off how she thinks and acts. It's no different than basing our society off the morals and actions of people in the insane asylums for criminals. Then get used to losing, bro. The GOP needs to leave abortion, religion and gays alone. They need to run as the "freedom" party. Lower taxes, smaller .gov and stay the fuck out of people lives. jUsT BeCoMe mOrE PrOgReSsIvE oN CuLtUrE aNd MoRaLiTy Ok lolbert  This + "leave transkids and 'gender reassignment' for minors alone" = 2040 Republican |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:12:42 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: jUsT BeCoMe mOrE PrOgReSsIvE oN CuLtUrE aNd MoRaLiTy Ok lolbert This + "leave transkids and 'gender reassignment' for minors alone" = 2040 Republican Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I posted this in another thread, but I'll leave it here too.. A lot of guys here are out of touch with reality and live in an echo chamber. There are also a TON of guys here that have never touched a woman, let alone try to understand one. Many don't realize that Mary, the church going, conservative suburban soccer mom driving her 3 kids to school in an 80k dollar SUV, with the perfect cookie cutter home and clean-cut husband, John, that she swooned as a senior in college, working his upper middle-class job to provide for his family, has a secret or two that hubby doesn't know about. Yeah, that is right. John has NO clue of Mary's past. Mary has never and will never speak of her wild past of her late teens where half her time was spent with her ankles pinned behind her ears. Her catholic parents will never know, her husband will never know and sure as hell her kids will never know her secret. Yep, she had an abortion, and she is OK with that because it was in her "previous life". She is making up for it now by raising her wonderful children in a beautiful home and going to church with her conservative family every Sunday with a smile. How do you think Mary feels or votes? I mean, she wouldn't have this great life if it wasn't for her abortion. If you guys think I am in left field here, then you're living in a fairytale world. Mary is wrong to have had an abortion and it's wrong for her to have been able to get one and I suspect most of the reasons why abortions are sought are messed up and shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's messed up that mary thinks and acts the way she does and did on this topic, and it's wrong to base our society off how she thinks and acts. It's no different than basing our society off the morals and actions of people in the insane asylums for criminals. Then get used to losing, bro. The GOP needs to leave abortion, religion and gays alone. They need to run as the "freedom" party. Lower taxes, smaller .gov and stay the fuck out of people lives. jUsT BeCoMe mOrE PrOgReSsIvE oN CuLtUrE aNd MoRaLiTy Ok lolbert This + "leave transkids and 'gender reassignment' for minors alone" = 2040 Republican Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:13:01 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: *pseudo-chad Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are we really incompetent to supply one sentence? "roe v wade was overturned" "Therefore we did badly in the midterms" What goes between those that causally links them. Will any of you even TRY? Are you so gifted with the power of autism that you cannot read the posts in your thread unless they conform to your Mad Libs? Funny how arf can talk about the decline of testosterone, the decline of masculinity, discuss how you ought to keep your body in shape and train, and how males in particular shouldn't be controlled by their emotions - heck, we even get questions of what to use for coffee pots with no plastic and thus less/ no bpa/etc in them... ... and yet be so pathetically weak at lifting even the lightest weight mentally. Any damn excuse to punk out if it requires thinking. We have nuclear scientists and engineers and literal math wizards, guys who fab cars up in their garages, and yet on this? You’re avoiding the truth by hiding behind this air of pseudo intellectualism and pseudo masculinity. Because clearly, what I posted said that I'm a chad. *pseudo-chad To be autistic, I ackshually posted words that mean it doesn't matter if I'm stupid or not, the question is there whether I ask it or not. People are pulling feelings and instinct and impressions out of their orifices and treating them like they're the absolute truth. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 3:14:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: they don't want to blame their "moderate Republican" wives and daughters who value abortion uber alles /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/temp-96.gif Hmmm. Here's an idea: Stop chasing, having children with, or marrying females who think infanticide is an option? Nahhh, that'll never catch on. |
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