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Link Posted: 6/28/2016 6:36:39 PM EDT
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Desperate times call for desperate measures. Watch your step for leg traps.
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Nah I'm good, I'm much too clever for such things....wait..what's that? I hear someone rummaging through my pantry...brb, I'm sure it's nothing....
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 6:42:47 PM EDT
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She's attractive enough but she's got issues.

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The Assberg effect is noted.
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  The Assberg effect is noted.



Muffin top?   Mushroom cloud top.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 7:11:04 PM EDT
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Except she's.....not. She has most of the qualities Arfcommers say they want in a woman, pardoning the extra pounds.
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Typical entitled lib


Listen, if you're a "6" don't expect to marry or date a 9-10



Except she's.....not. She has most of the qualities Arfcommers say they want in a woman, pardoning the extra pounds.

I'm willing to bet if we started to peel back the onion we'd find she is more than even she realizes.

Entitlement attitudes tend to run in the lib ideology.

Link Posted: 6/28/2016 7:22:27 PM EDT
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Perfect fodder for a black man.
Of course he would be tapping several others at the same  time.

I sent her a msg maybe can get her to join
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 8:49:22 PM EDT
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Good luck with that.
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Good luck with that.
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Good luck with that.


I have the 150% epic thread jpg on standby.



Link Posted: 6/28/2016 9:00:35 PM EDT
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Dick move, but good photoshop. I guess it's hard when all you know of someone is an abstraction of them from the internet.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 9:05:14 PM EDT
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Oh no...I'm way too much of a heathen for her, plus no more kids for me, plus I tend to prefer petite athletic brunettes...(though blonde or red hair is also acceptable).
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She's pretty and has a lot of seemingly good qualities. She's probably being too picky, and though she's got a lot going for her, she can't afford to be especially picky if she's overweight. She needs to lose weight, trap somebody, then she can get fat again

Careful, man. You're in her danger zone!



What do you mean?!?!

Eligible bachelor in the right age range.



Oh no...I'm way too much of a heathen for her, plus no more kids for me, plus I tend to prefer petite athletic brunettes...(though blonde or red hair is also acceptable).


well you are talking to the right lady if thatsyour thing.

though she is taken.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 9:10:46 PM EDT
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Is that really her? (Minus the cats of course)

If so, then she has no one to blame but herself.....she is fat and disgusting and could easily mak the choice to lose that weight.

The choice is easy, the work is hard.

Women who are fat pre-kids should be a red flag to any guy.


Stop eating shit, join a gym, and she'll lose 35-50lbs in 6-9 months. 75-100lbs in 12-16 months.

She could be 150lb if she choose to be. As is....looks like a solid 250 or more.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 9:16:42 PM EDT
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Is that really her? (Minus the cats of course)

If so, then she has no one to blame but herself.....she is fat and disgusting and could easily mak the choice to lose that weight.

The choice is easy, the work is hard.

Women who are fat pre-kids should be a red flag to any guy.


Stop eating shit, join a gym, and she'll lose 35-50lbs in 6-9 months. 75-100lbs in 12-16 months.

She could be 150lb if she choose to be. As is....looks like a solid 250 or more.
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Is that really her? (Minus the cats of course)

If so, then she has no one to blame but herself.....she is fat and disgusting and could easily mak the choice to lose that weight.

The choice is easy, the work is hard.

Women who are fat pre-kids should be a red flag to any guy.


Stop eating shit, join a gym, and she'll lose 35-50lbs in 6-9 months. 75-100lbs in 12-16 months.

She could be 150lb if she choose to be. As is....looks like a solid 250 or more.


Hyperbole much ?
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 9:25:11 PM EDT
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The weird thing is the more I look at that the more I think she is photoshopped in. Her head just doesn't look right now.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 9:27:06 PM EDT
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We should hook her up with human brodozer from the steroid thread.
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Hyperbole much ?
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Is that really her? (Minus the cats of course)

If so, then she has no one to blame but herself.....she is fat and disgusting and could easily mak the choice to lose that weight.

The choice is easy, the work is hard.

Women who are fat pre-kids should be a red flag to any guy.


Stop eating shit, join a gym, and she'll lose 35-50lbs in 6-9 months. 75-100lbs in 12-16 months.

She could be 150lb if she choose to be. As is....looks like a solid 250 or more.


Hyperbole much ?


I understand the cats are photoshopped. I'm asking is that actually her in the pic.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 9:31:58 PM EDT
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Ranger,
Yes it is
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She needs to be hooked up with a decent photographer. What a horrible aspect of her on that bench.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 9:44:41 PM EDT
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Is that they guy bragging about his 16 inch arms?

 
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 10:35:49 PM EDT
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Either she's grossly misrepresenting herself, or she has a weird idea of what is "overweight".



 
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Wow, she is then if she can't figure out why attractive men won't date her.



I bet she could name her "favorite food from every fast food place". Stop stuffing your face. Exercise. Sheeesh. It's not that hard to figure out.
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 10:39:32 PM EDT
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Either she's grossly misrepresenting herself, or she has a weird idea of what is "overweight".
 
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Either she's grossly misrepresenting herself, or she has a weird idea of what is "overweight".
 

Misrepresenting. Look at the cat pics a few posts up.

Fatty
Link Posted: 6/28/2016 11:06:53 PM EDT
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Wow, she is then if she can't figure out why attractive men won't date her.
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She's fishing for Marlin with catfish bait.
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 12:01:49 AM EDT
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She's fishing for Marlin with catfish bait.
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Wow, she is then if she can't figure out why attractive men won't date her.


She's fishing for Marlin with catfish bait.

You're saying she smells like Stink Bait (tm)?
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 12:04:59 AM EDT
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though she is taken.
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Oh yeah I'm aware. I'm also aware that she's married which is why I am acting the perfect gentleman

Eta but yeah it's definitely my thing
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 12:38:01 AM EDT
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You're saying she smells like Stink Bait (tm)?
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Wow, she is then if she can't figure out why attractive men won't date her.


She's fishing for Marlin with catfish bait.

You're saying she smells like Stink Bait (tm)?


Just saying you don't catch a grander with nightcrawlers.

She's wasted the first 27 years of her life wondering why her cane pole, bobber and can-o-worms hasn't brought a big billfish to the dock. She appears to have high standards in what she expects of her catch. What's she doing to bring that catch to the hook? Nothing, from the looks of it. Apparently it's the marlin's fault they can't see the value in her 'crawlers. Stupid fish...


Link Posted: 6/29/2016 12:54:53 AM EDT
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There is either some MySpace voodoo going on (she tapers out fast just out of frame) or this picture was 10,000 cheese burgers ago.
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There is either some MySpace voodoo going on (she tapers out fast just out of frame) or this picture was 10,000 cheese burgers ago.

LOL I remember that shit.  Myspace Angles.  Its a real thing
Link Posted: 6/29/2016 5:38:23 AM EDT
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Eta but yeah it's definitely my thing
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well you are talking to the right lady if thatsyour thing.

though she is taken.


Oh yeah I'm aware. I'm also aware that she's married which is why I am acting the perfect gentleman

Eta but yeah it's definitely my thing

Quite happily taken. I enjoy spoiling my hubby rotten.
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Every ounce of my being cringes, because they’re probably right. And I hate that. I am talented and opinionated and passionate and valuable. I am good at writing and making jokes and cleaning. I would make a wonderful wife. I would love to pass my days maneuvering a minivan full of foster kids to soccer games and recitals and tutoring. None of these things would be diminished because of my size, yet none of them seem to matter because of my size.
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Sounds like a Neckbeard pushing their crap.
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My wife has a couple chunky friends who are still single and constantly complain about not being able to find a "good man"...because by "good man" they mean a male underwear model with 8-pack abs.

There have been several really awesome, fun, caring, intelligent, hardworking, interested guys (with similar body types as them) who they could've had a great relationship with...but they blew them off because "he's not my type."

So we've both pretty much given up now and just try to change the subject when it comes up.
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My wife has a couple chunky friends who are still single and constantly complain about not being able to find a "good man"...because by "good man" they mean a male underwear model with 8-pack abs.

There have been several really awesome, fun, caring, intelligent, hardworking, interested guys (with similar body types as them) who they could've had a great relationship with...but they blew them off because "he's not my type."

So we've both pretty much given up now and just try to change the subject when it comes up.
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My wife has a couple chunky friends who are still single and constantly complain about not being able to find a "good man"...because by "good man" they mean a male underwear model with 8-pack abs.

There have been several really awesome, fun, caring, intelligent, hardworking, interested guys (with similar body types as them) who they could've had a great relationship with...but they blew them off because "he's not my type."

So we've both pretty much given up now and just try to change the subject when it comes up.


score a few for feminism.
Its not just looks.
Ask a feminist what constitutes a good man:

caring.
great with kids
funny
supportive of her desires and ambition.

ask a feminist what constitutes a good woman.

strong
independent.
smart
follows her passions
great career.


you will note that feminists define a man's goodness by his willingness to sacrifice for a woman.

where as a woman is defined by her personal desires and ambitions being fulfilled

women have no duty to others in feminism other than to fellow feminists.  the concept of a woman having a duty to a man is foreign and disgusting.

men have an explicit duty to all women, especially their own (but don't he dare say it that way)

which is why feminism, even 1st wave, is such a negative influence.  When only half of a population has a duty to others, that isn't freedom, its a caste system.

before feminism, both men and women had a duty to each other and each was judged by how well they fulfilled that duty to each other.  

But women dropped out.  So men have started to.  And you see the women screeching hysterically (choice of adverb and verb deliberately) at the MGTOW movement..

Does this apply to all women?  No.  So the estrogen posse can settle down.  but its enough of a cultural shift that it is both negative and substantial.

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What?  



I'm going to be chuckling the whole way on my hour drive to work now.
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I'm going to be chuckling the whole way on my hour drive to work now.
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What?  



I'm going to be chuckling the whole way on my hour drive to work now.

Big girls and baby oil go together like chocolate and peanut butter.  To quote the immortal Dudley Dawson, "you moos sure know how to party!"
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Quite happily taken. I enjoy spoiling my hubby rotten.
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well you are talking to the right lady if thatsyour thing.

though she is taken.


Oh yeah I'm aware. I'm also aware that she's married which is why I am acting the perfect gentleman

Eta but yeah it's definitely my thing

Quite happily taken. I enjoy spoiling my hubby rotten.


Got a sister by any chance?
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well you are talking to the right lady if thatsyour thing.

though she is taken.


Oh yeah I'm aware. I'm also aware that she's married which is why I am acting the perfect gentleman

Eta but yeah it's definitely my thing

Quite happily taken. I enjoy spoiling my hubby rotten.


Got a sister by any chance?



Going to rudely shove my way into the middle of this and ask for your assistance.  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1883269_Fat_Lovers_Get_In_Here.html

Please and thank you.  
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Going to rudely shove my way into the middle of this and ask for your assistance.  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1883269_Fat_Lovers_Get_In_Here.html

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well you are talking to the right lady if thatsyour thing.

though she is taken.


Oh yeah I'm aware. I'm also aware that she's married which is why I am acting the perfect gentleman

Eta but yeah it's definitely my thing

Quite happily taken. I enjoy spoiling my hubby rotten.


Got a sister by any chance?



Going to rudely shove my way into the middle of this and ask for your assistance.  http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1883269_Fat_Lovers_Get_In_Here.html

Please and thank you.  



Why ya trying to get me involved in stuff huh?

What about you, you got a sister?!?
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Because you're a font of knowledge I'd like to tap.  Pun intended.  

I have two.  Both brunettes.  Both married.  One is the case study.  
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I'll be posting later in this thread since I'm 29, single, Christian...



..and happy.
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Because you're a font of knowledge I'd like to tap.  Pun intended.  

I have two.  Both brunettes.  Both married.  One is the case study.  
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What about you, you got a sister?!?



Because you're a font of knowledge I'd like to tap.  Pun intended.  

I have two.  Both brunettes.  Both married.  One is the case study.  





I can flex on the brunette part but the petite athletic part is a priority!
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well you are talking to the right lady if thatsyour thing.

though she is taken.


Oh yeah I'm aware. I'm also aware that she's married which is why I am acting the perfect gentleman

Eta but yeah it's definitely my thing

Quite happily taken. I enjoy spoiling my hubby rotten.


Got a sister by any chance?

Two brothers and a couple of liberal, married cousins.
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Well shit. It's almost like arfcom isn't a good place to pick up women....
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Well shit. It's almost like arfcom isn't a good place to pick up women....
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Well shit. It's almost like arfcom isn't a good place to pick up women....

Almost. Worked for Kalahnikid, though. And at least one other guy I can think of.
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Almost. Worked for Kalahnikid, though. And at least one other guy I can think of.
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Well shit. It's almost like arfcom isn't a good place to pick up women....

Almost. Worked for Kalahnikid, though. And at least one other guy I can think of.


Doesn't stop a lot of us from trying.
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I had a long, well thought out, line by line response to this article prepared, but then I remembered this is GD and it would be utterly wasted .  So I'll hit some high points and leave it at that.

There is nothing wrong with working on yourself to achieve your goals.  If the author thinks she needs to lose weight to marry the kind of man she wants, there's nothing wrong with doing that.  Thinking that we are going to simply unmake hard coded genetic wiring in men is a pipe dream.  And before she blasts men for being visual, she might want to look in the mirror and ask herself about that whole "I want a man who has enough money to take care of me" thing.  They are not different from a moral perspective, only a cultural perspective (and as you can probably tell, I put a great deal less stock in the 'cultural' perspective).

In her article I'm seeing a lot of commentary that comes down to "it isn't fair!"  Well, nothing in life is.  "Fair" is not a word that belongs in an adult's vocabulary.  Forget about what's fair and deal with what is.

I looked up her facebook page out of curiosity.  She is actually an attractive woman.  No, she's not a skinny mini, but she is quite a pretty lady.  If she had been in my church when I was dating and I was selecting on attractiveness alone, I would've definitely pursued her.  That fact, combined with some of her statements in the article lead me to believe that what's holding her back is not what's in the mirror.  It's probably what's in her character.

I've seen this more than once.  Before I met my wife, I had to wade through the dating pool.  I started in my local church and later went outside of it.  Here's a sad truth I encountered.  Prior to meeting my wife (whom I was lucky to find) I found that the best, most well adjusted, most accomplished, most pleasant women I dated were not only not in the church, they weren't even believers.  Dating non-believers was way easier than dealing with the little spoiled princesses I was finding in my local church.  This should not be so and the fact that it is a massive indictment of how we as Christians are raising our children.  Unfortunately, we won't address the issue because introspection and self examination are uncomfortable and uncool things to do.

I don't know that Miss Smith falls into that spoiled princess category, but there's plenty of commentary in her article that points to that.

That whole thing about "I'm opinionated and valuable" can easily be interpreted as "I'm whiny and demanding."  I can't tell you how common that is in the church and, with a lot of churched women these days, it goes over into outright greed.  They're up front about the fact that they're going to spend you dry and then call you a deadbeat if you don't pony up more.  And the idea that you might want to do something with your money is practically a sin.  Again, I can't say this is her mindset, but I've seen it plenty enough times in person and it tracks with her comments.

And one more thing...part of her problem is she's using eHarmony.  eHarmony sucks.  Use a different service.
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Agreed.

All the super model hotness in the world doesn't make up for an ugly personality.

Good character, honestly, loyalty, emotional stability, good work ethic, and good money management skills make up for a veritable multitude of physical shortcomings.

I find that emotional instability and various character flaws tend to be correlated with people who are significantly overweight.  Being significantly overweight is more of a mental health issue than a physical one, however in cases of ladies where the two aren't correlated, personality wins for me.  I dated a few well adjusted ladies who were overweight and it was fine.  The pros far outpaced the cons in the rare cases this happened.

The sort of neurotic personalities most of the overweight ladies had were such that I'd have had nothing to do with them even if they'd all looked like Heather Graham or Kate Beckinsale.
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Yeah, I picked up on that too.  She strikes me as the kind who would quit her job as soon as getting married and spend the family fortune (read: yours) dry in less than a year.  Most people aren't interested in that.
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Yeah, part of it is "how much" Americans eat and a larger part of it is "what" Americans eat "so much" of. If your diet consists of whole fruits, whole vegetables, proteins and natural starches, you can get away with a pretty extravagant amount of food intake with very little real health effects. You can also lose weight much easier by simply cutting your intake by relatively small amounts.

However, when you start adding things like refined sugars and loads of carbs, you're going to pack on weight quickly and those habits die much, much harder. You have to effectively cut ALL of that shit out of your diet to lose any extra. Then you start doing really weird shit to your metabolism so, going back to eating what *would* have been healthy amounts of food will cause weight gain again.

It becomes a fucked up cyclic yo-yo that can be soul crushing for a fatty.

Another problem Americans have developed is this idea that even the smallest amount of hunger is torture. That if you're hungry you simply MUST eat, quickly, whatever is at hand because, if you allow yourself to be hungry, you'll "just die" on the spot.

Yet another issue is that so many Americans are chronically dehydrated and mistake thirst for hunger. Since all food has water in it, eating slakes thirst and fools you into thinking you were hungry all along.

Americans, as a general rule, have become victims of their own success. I work tirelessly to teach my children proper dietary habits so I don't have to have the "son, you're fat, you need to fix that" talk with them, one day.
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In 1960 roughly 10% of American adults were obese. Now around 35% are obese. If Obesity DIDN'T derive primarily from eating too much and exercising too little, why has the rate grown so sharply in the last fifty odd years? Does she really expect us to believe that America is in the grip of an epidemic of thyroid problems? Have "genetics" changed that much?


People eat way too much. They exercise way too little. Therefore, they are obese.



Sugar intake is reason number 1.

Yeah, part of it is "how much" Americans eat and a larger part of it is "what" Americans eat "so much" of. If your diet consists of whole fruits, whole vegetables, proteins and natural starches, you can get away with a pretty extravagant amount of food intake with very little real health effects. You can also lose weight much easier by simply cutting your intake by relatively small amounts.

However, when you start adding things like refined sugars and loads of carbs, you're going to pack on weight quickly and those habits die much, much harder. You have to effectively cut ALL of that shit out of your diet to lose any extra. Then you start doing really weird shit to your metabolism so, going back to eating what *would* have been healthy amounts of food will cause weight gain again.

It becomes a fucked up cyclic yo-yo that can be soul crushing for a fatty.

Another problem Americans have developed is this idea that even the smallest amount of hunger is torture. That if you're hungry you simply MUST eat, quickly, whatever is at hand because, if you allow yourself to be hungry, you'll "just die" on the spot.

Yet another issue is that so many Americans are chronically dehydrated and mistake thirst for hunger. Since all food has water in it, eating slakes thirst and fools you into thinking you were hungry all along.

Americans, as a general rule, have become victims of their own success. I work tirelessly to teach my children proper dietary habits so I don't have to have the "son, you're fat, you need to fix that" talk with them, one day.


You're doing right by your son on this issue.
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I had a long, well thought out, line by line response to this article prepared, but then I remembered this is GD and it would be utterly wasted .  So I'll hit some high points and leave it at that.

There is nothing wrong with working on yourself to achieve your goals.  If the author thinks she needs to lose weight to marry the kind of man she wants, there's nothing wrong with doing that.  Thinking that we are going to simply unmake hard coded genetic wiring in men is a pipe dream.  And before she blasts men for being visual, she might want to look in the mirror and ask herself about that whole "I want a man who has enough money to take care of me" thing.  They are not different from a moral perspective, only a cultural perspective (and as you can probably tell, I put a great deal less stock in the 'cultural' perspective).

In her article I'm seeing a lot of commentary that comes down to "it isn't fair!"  Well, nothing in life is.  "Fair" is not a word that belongs in an adult's vocabulary.  Forget about what's fair and deal with what is.

I looked up her facebook page out of curiosity.  She is actually an attractive woman.  No, she's not a skinny mini, but she is quite a pretty lady.  If she had been in my church when I was dating and I was selecting on attractiveness alone, I would've definitely pursued her.  That fact, combined with some of her statements in the article lead me to believe that what's holding her back is not what's in the mirror.  It's probably what's in her character.

I've seen this more than once.  Before I met my wife, I had to wade through the dating pool.  I started in my local church and later went outside of it.  Here's a sad truth I encountered.  Prior to meeting my wife (whom I was lucky to find) I found that the best, most well adjusted, most accomplished, most pleasant women I dated were not only not in the church, they weren't even believers.  Dating non-believers was way easier than dealing with the little spoiled princesses I was finding in my local church.  This should not be so and the fact that it is a massive indictment of how we as Christians are raising our children.  Unfortunately, we won't address the issue because introspection and self examination are uncomfortable and uncool things to do.

I don't know that Miss Smith falls into that spoiled princess category, but there's plenty of commentary in her article that points to that.

That whole thing about "I'm opinionated and valuable" can easily be interpreted as "I'm whiny and demanding."  I can't tell you how common that is in the church and, with a lot of churched women these days, it goes over into outright greed.  They're up front about the fact that they're going to spend you dry and then call you a deadbeat if you don't pony up more.  And the idea that you might want to do something with your money is practically a sin.  Again, I can't say this is her mindset, but I've seen it plenty enough times in person and it tracks with her comments.

And one more thing...part of her problem is she's using eHarmony.  eHarmony sucks.  Use a different service.
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Pretty much this.

I'm a single Christian guy, and I can say with absolute certainty that dating within the church is not a "buyer's market" for us as she asserts. I've noted far too many Christian women who are unwilling to date Christian men in the church because the men don't meet 100% of their expectations, which are all too often drawn almost straight from a Jane Austen novel. The truth of the matter is that both men and women have a crappy time dating within the church, in large part because both sexes often have unrealistic expectations, or the individual is unwilling to recognize or remedy their own deficiencies in order to attract the sort of mate that they are seeking.

It seems that JB (the author) is either unwilling or unable to change herself sufficiently to attract the sort of man she is looking for. She's on OKCupid and eHarmony, and she's apparently getting dates (at least that's the impression I got from her article), but those dates are not evolving into relationships. This means either she has unrealistic expectations for the men she's dating, or she's not what her dates are expecting or looking for when they meet her (or a combination of the two). Part of her issue may be her figure, but there's likely some personality issues as well.
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Pretty much this.

I'm a single Christian guy, and I can say with absolute certainty that dating within the church is not a "buyer's market" for us as she asserts. I've noted far too many Christian women who are unwilling to date Christian men in the church because the men don't meet 100% of their expectations, which are all too often drawn almost straight from a Jane Austen novel. The truth of the matter is that both men and women have a crappy time dating within the church, in large part because both sexes often have unrealistic expectations, or the individual is unwilling to recognize or remedy their own deficiencies in order to attract the sort of mate that they are seeking.

It seems that JB (the author) is either unwilling or unable to change herself sufficiently to attract the sort of man she is looking for. She's on OKCupid and eHarmony, and she's apparently getting dates (at least that's the impression I got from her article), but those dates are not evolving into relationships. This means either she has unrealistic expectations for the men she's dating, or she's not what her dates are expecting or looking for when they meet her (or a combination of the two). Part of her issue may be her figure, but there's likely some personality issues as well.
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I had a long, well thought out, line by line response to this article prepared, but then I remembered this is GD and it would be utterly wasted .  So I'll hit some high points and leave it at that.

There is nothing wrong with working on yourself to achieve your goals.  If the author thinks she needs to lose weight to marry the kind of man she wants, there's nothing wrong with doing that.  Thinking that we are going to simply unmake hard coded genetic wiring in men is a pipe dream.  And before she blasts men for being visual, she might want to look in the mirror and ask herself about that whole "I want a man who has enough money to take care of me" thing.  They are not different from a moral perspective, only a cultural perspective (and as you can probably tell, I put a great deal less stock in the 'cultural' perspective).

In her article I'm seeing a lot of commentary that comes down to "it isn't fair!"  Well, nothing in life is.  "Fair" is not a word that belongs in an adult's vocabulary.  Forget about what's fair and deal with what is.

I looked up her facebook page out of curiosity.  She is actually an attractive woman.  No, she's not a skinny mini, but she is quite a pretty lady.  If she had been in my church when I was dating and I was selecting on attractiveness alone, I would've definitely pursued her.  That fact, combined with some of her statements in the article lead me to believe that what's holding her back is not what's in the mirror.  It's probably what's in her character.

I've seen this more than once.  Before I met my wife, I had to wade through the dating pool.  I started in my local church and later went outside of it.  Here's a sad truth I encountered.  Prior to meeting my wife (whom I was lucky to find) I found that the best, most well adjusted, most accomplished, most pleasant women I dated were not only not in the church, they weren't even believers.  Dating non-believers was way easier than dealing with the little spoiled princesses I was finding in my local church.  This should not be so and the fact that it is a massive indictment of how we as Christians are raising our children.  Unfortunately, we won't address the issue because introspection and self examination are uncomfortable and uncool things to do.

I don't know that Miss Smith falls into that spoiled princess category, but there's plenty of commentary in her article that points to that.

That whole thing about "I'm opinionated and valuable" can easily be interpreted as "I'm whiny and demanding."  I can't tell you how common that is in the church and, with a lot of churched women these days, it goes over into outright greed.  They're up front about the fact that they're going to spend you dry and then call you a deadbeat if you don't pony up more.  And the idea that you might want to do something with your money is practically a sin.  Again, I can't say this is her mindset, but I've seen it plenty enough times in person and it tracks with her comments.

And one more thing...part of her problem is she's using eHarmony.  eHarmony sucks.  Use a different service.


Pretty much this.

I'm a single Christian guy, and I can say with absolute certainty that dating within the church is not a "buyer's market" for us as she asserts. I've noted far too many Christian women who are unwilling to date Christian men in the church because the men don't meet 100% of their expectations, which are all too often drawn almost straight from a Jane Austen novel. The truth of the matter is that both men and women have a crappy time dating within the church, in large part because both sexes often have unrealistic expectations, or the individual is unwilling to recognize or remedy their own deficiencies in order to attract the sort of mate that they are seeking.

It seems that JB (the author) is either unwilling or unable to change herself sufficiently to attract the sort of man she is looking for. She's on OKCupid and eHarmony, and she's apparently getting dates (at least that's the impression I got from her article), but those dates are not evolving into relationships. This means either she has unrealistic expectations for the men she's dating, or she's not what her dates are expecting or looking for when they meet her (or a combination of the two). Part of her issue may be her figure, but there's likely some personality issues as well.

It seems that she thinks that her figure shouldn't be an issue.  And if men can't handle that, thats the man's problem.

Of course, men she finds unattractive are simply unattractive, also the man's problem.

no matter what it is both the man's fault AND the man's problem.

because equality.
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