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Posted: 8/15/2013 11:09:38 PM EDT
Would you buy one if they ever made it to the American market?

Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:10:17 PM EDT
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Those would be a LOT of fun to suppress.
Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:13:27 PM EDT
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aren't those 50 rounds or some such? and yes.
Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:16:21 PM EDT
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aren't those 50 rounds or some such? and yes.
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Feed system
64-round helical magazine (9x18mm Makarov)
53-round helical magazine (9x19mm Parabellum) (Bizon-2-01)
Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:17:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:21:16 PM EDT
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Sign me up.

Make it in 40S&W, and sign me up for two.
Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:29:11 PM EDT
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All you really need to import is the magazines. The rest can be made here.
Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:31:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:31:58 PM EDT
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Gross.
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truth.





Wish someone would have made it attractive :)



 
Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:35:56 PM EDT
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truth.


Wish someone would have made it attractive :)
 
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Wish someone would have made it attractive :)
 


I'm not even going to argue with you because I know you're gonna stomp me.

Link Posted: 8/15/2013 11:45:07 PM EDT
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Those things lacking in quality.


I'd take the Slavshit PP-19... I suspect it's better built.

Also, the magazine-under design is more practical.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:06:13 AM EDT
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Is it awesome? Yes

Would I buy it? probably not.

It's a cool gun, but if I had to pick one smg that isn't currently being sold to civvies it be the MP7
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:08:34 AM EDT
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A while back I remember reading an article stating that Izhmash wanted to make a civi-legal 9mm Bizon and AK-107 copy to export to the US under their SAIGA nomenclature. That was about a month or 2 before Newtown though...
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:10:17 AM EDT
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Looks like some sorta ray-gun from a SciFi movie. So, naturally, I want one.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:10:34 AM EDT
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Is it awesome? Yes



Would I buy it? probably not.



It's a cool gun, but if I had to pick one smg that isn't currently being sold to civvies it be the MP7
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bleh you can keep you're expensive proprietary round. I'd rather have something I could actually afford to shoot.



Sign me up for one in 9mm

 
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:17:59 AM EDT
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If I wanted a sub gun (I'm not sure I do) I'd want this.

http://www.dsarms.com/images/BTTP9SF.jpg
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:46:36 AM EDT
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If I wanted a sub gun (I'm not sure I do) I'd want this.

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Is that a fucking 1-4 on that? LOL.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:47:31 AM EDT
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Is that a fucking 1-4 on that? LOL.
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If I wanted a sub gun (I'm not sure I do) I'd want this.

http://www.dsarms.com/images/BTTP9SF.jpg


Is that a fucking 1-4 on that? LOL.


NODs.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:55:43 AM EDT
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depends on if it was a class III, and how much the mags cost. with a pistol extenion and a arm brace it might make a fun gun.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:55:50 AM EDT
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A small garbage can, is where that belongs.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:56:41 AM EDT
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Yes
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 12:56:49 AM EDT
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Perfect for the bathroom garbage can.



 
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 1:37:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/16/2013 1:40:00 AM EDT
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Perfect for the bathroom garbage can.
 
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A small garbage can, is where that belongs.
Perfect for the bathroom garbage can.
 

And you can almost guarantee the 9x18 version would cycle flawlessly with bits of toilet paper tube crammed into it.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 1:40:45 AM EDT
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That's pretty crude looking.
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Bullethoses don't need to be fancy.

Link Posted: 8/16/2013 1:55:26 AM EDT
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Is it awesome? Yes

Would I buy it? probably not.

It's a cool gun, but if I had to pick one smg that isn't currently being sold to civvies it be the MP7
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Absolutely. But I would definitely buy a PP-19 in a heartbeat.

ETA: For those who don't know, that PP-19 has its stock folded to the side. Here is one extended. Would be a pretty nice SMG. I'd take one in SBR or rifle form with a fake suppressor.

Link Posted: 8/16/2013 1:55:42 AM EDT
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NODs.
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If I wanted a sub gun (I'm not sure I do) I'd want this.

http://www.dsarms.com/images/BTTP9SF.jpg


Is that a fucking 1-4 on that? LOL.


NODs.


AH, you are correct. I didnt look close enough.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 5:46:49 AM EDT
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I would buy one tomorrow if they were available.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 5:53:52 AM EDT
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I would if they're under 1k.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 5:55:29 AM EDT
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Hell no.

Give me an MPX.

Link Posted: 8/16/2013 5:56:18 AM EDT
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No.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 5:57:53 AM EDT
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Yes.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:01:11 AM EDT
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In 9x18 and imported in such a way that they could be easily SBR'd on a Form 1 -Yes please.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:01:34 AM EDT
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Yes please.

Can you even get one of those since they goatfucked MD with the new laws?
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:04:39 AM EDT
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Just when I was warming up to that thing SIG pulls their usual routine and dips it in a bucket of Black Ops aflage.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:04:51 AM EDT
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This.  I would not own an bizon.  IF they ever made it here, the mags would cost a fortune.  Now the vityaz...I would take that.  Assuming mags were available and cheap.  Maybe converted to mp5 mags or something like that.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:12:28 AM EDT
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This.  I would not own an bizon.  IF they ever made it here, the mags would cost a fortune.  Now the vityaz...I would take that.  Assuming mags were available and cheap.  Maybe converted to mp5 mags or something like that.
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This.  I would not own an bizon.  IF they ever made it here, the mags would cost a fortune.  Now the vityaz...I would take that.  Assuming mags were available and cheap.  Maybe converted to mp5 mags or something like that.


this
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:13:01 AM EDT
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Yes please.

Can you even get one of those in MD since they goatfucked MD with the new laws?
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Yes please.

Can you even get one of those in MD since they goatfucked MD with the new laws?


1) Law doesn't go into effect until 1Oct.  Since nobody has been "harmed" by the law yet (since it's not in effect), it can't be challenged in court.  Yet.  At least 4 different lawsuits are ready to go at 0800 1Oct, 2013.  Probably more.

2) It bans guns by specific make and model.  Sig rifles are not on the list.  Guns not on the market at the time the bill was drafted (e.g. Tavor) are not on the list.  Moreover, the law makes exemptions for specific makes and models which is an unconstitutional case of unfair favoritism.  For example, the law bans all AR15s, but then makes an exception for "Colt HBAR."  That is to say, only Colt can sell AR15s, and only so long as they call the rifle the "HBAR" model.  There are no stated dimensions or required specs in the law, only that it be a) a Colt product and b) called the HBAR.  Colt does not currently make an HBAR model.  Which means that that company, and that company alone, could make whatever they want, call it the HBAR, and sell it in MD.  They would have protection from competition by law, and could set whatever price they wanted, since they'd be the only game in town for the state's ~1.3 million gun owners.  Basically, it would be as if the state passed a law which said, "You cannot buy new pickup truck, except for the Ford F100."  Ford doesn't currently make an F100, but do you think they might love the opportunity to be the only game in town, protected by law?  You're damn right they'd do it!

3) The law does say that semiautomatic centerfire rifles can't be sold at a length less than 29" long.  So the MPX would need its stock fixed in the extended position (hopefully by some method which is reversible), but you could still sell it.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:13:38 AM EDT
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Fuck Yeah!



It would be my "Drive through Detroit car gun"...
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:15:43 AM EDT
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Just when I was warming up to that thing SIG pulls their usual routine and dips it in a bucket of Black Ops aflage.
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Just when I was warming up to that thing SIG pulls their usual routine and dips it in a bucket of Black Ops aflage.


Dude, carbon fiber-y!

WooooOOOOOOoooooo!

Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:15:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:16:25 AM EDT
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Oh yea baby....in a heartbeat.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:18:33 AM EDT
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Looks like some sorta ray-gun from a SciFi movie. So, naturally, I want one.
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Looks like some sorta ray-gun from a SciFi movie. So, naturally, I want one.


Calico 950, and it was the main weapon used throughout "I Come In Peace", except, that one was turbo charged...






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Come_in_Peace
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:19:59 AM EDT
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Those things were awesome in Syphon Filter


I'd buy a full-auto one, just so to cut down small trees and such.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:24:32 AM EDT
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No.  How on earth are you going to c clamp the rifle to drive it dynamically while you run it with that magazine?
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:25:23 AM EDT
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Those things were awesome in Syphon Filter


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Taser, man.

Shit's on fire, yo.  
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:28:38 AM EDT
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Meh. Gimme this

Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:28:47 AM EDT
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That's me and that's the only gun I reeeeeally get excited about.
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:45:22 AM EDT
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Given that the us civi market is keeping Izhmash and Molot going right now, I bet they will try very hard to make it happen. Military contracts are supposedly pretty light right now for them.

Id buy two
Link Posted: 8/16/2013 6:45:41 AM EDT
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Space gun.

 



I want one just to showcase my love for 90's hiphop.






Link Posted: 8/16/2013 8:07:03 AM EDT
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I would buy in either flavor both are awesome.
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