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Posted: 1/30/2020 3:12:53 AM EDT
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ACR's are excellent. The action is remarkably smooth and they're very reliable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thing is shaping up to be what the. ACR should have been. I'm both happy and disappointed. 
My dick has been perpetually hard thinking about this gun. Don't fuck it up PSA!  |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 9:41:07 AM EDT
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I'd really like to use a Shockwave (Gen 2) Blade that can fold. Any recommendations on an inexpensive (yet decent quality) folding stock adapter? |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 12:12:33 PM EDT
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Hopefully someone makes a HK-style telescoping stock for this bad boy, that'd be tight.
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Posted: 1/30/2020 12:20:32 PM EDT
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Hopefully someone makes a HK-style telescoping stock for this bad boy, that'd be tight.
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Posted: 1/30/2020 12:41:17 PM EDT
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Didn't they stop making those?
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Posted: 1/30/2020 12:45:31 PM EDT
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Didn't they stop making those? I think people were starting to use them improperly (like on a 12ga with stock adapter) and Nordic didn't want to be responsible. They were intended for .22's. This one is from the first run. It lives on my .45 now.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 1:32:10 PM EDT
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I am torn.
I'm definitely going to get one of these... but I don't have in .300 guns. Don't really want any .300 guns. But I want the 7.5 inch barrel. Not 10.5
7.5 is plenty long for 5.56.
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Posted: 1/30/2020 1:41:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From the closeup I saw of the buffer tube and lower area it seemed like a pic rail adapter of some kind was being used for their factory gun. The reason for doing that versus a proprietary lower would be that tons of people already own AR-15 lowers and it cuts down development costs. If they do it all custom you're basically back to a SCAR/ACR/XCR/etc. With maybe a slight edge in price because it's PSA versus those companies. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 1:48:07 PM EDT
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I have one and love it. I'm just really sad it didn't get more traction and didn't reach its full potential (hence my disappointment). People also like to complain about its weight and how it weighs more than a comparable AR-15 (although I never have). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thing is shaping up to be what the. ACR should have been. I'm both happy and disappointed.
My dick has been perpetually hard thinking about this gun. Don't fuck it up PSA! It didnt get traction because it gold sold to Remington who drastically increased the price while drastically decreasing features. It was a dud by the time it shipped. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 4:41:52 PM EDT
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I am torn. I'm definitely going to get one of these... but I don't have in .300 guns. Don't really want any .300 guns. But I want the 7.5 inch barrel. Not 10.5
7.5 is plenty long for 5.56. https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-7043 https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-6783 I have seen the MOD 1 for just under $900. ETA: If you are interested B I will dig up my source for you with excellent pricing. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 4:46:32 PM EDT
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I am torn. I'm definitely going to get one of these... but I don't have in .300 guns. Don't really want any .300 guns. But I want the 7.5 inch barrel. Not 10.5
7.5 is plenty long for 5.56. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 4:49:41 PM EDT
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If you want a shorty that is a long stroke piston look at PWS. Pricing will be much more than PSA, but PWS makes nice stuff. They offer a few 7.75" uppers in .223 Wylde: https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-7043 https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-6783 I have seen the MOD 1 for just under $900. ETA: If you are interested B I will dig up my source for you with excellent pricing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am torn. I'm definitely going to get one of these... but I don't have in .300 guns. Don't really want any .300 guns. But I want the 7.5 inch barrel. Not 10.5
7.5 is plenty long for 5.56. https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-7043 https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-6783 I have seen the MOD 1 for just under $900. ETA: If you are interested B I will dig up my source for you with excellent pricing.
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Posted: 1/30/2020 5:30:08 PM EDT
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No it's okay, I don't really care about the piston part particularly. I like the PSA design and just love super-shorties. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am torn. I'm definitely going to get one of these... but I don't have in .300 guns. Don't really want any .300 guns. But I want the 7.5 inch barrel. Not 10.5
7.5 is plenty long for 5.56. https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-7043 https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-6783 I have seen the MOD 1 for just under $900. ETA: If you are interested B I will dig up my source for you with excellent pricing. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 5:37:46 PM EDT
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Yeah, I would have posted the Adams 7.5" but it and the PWS both require a standard buffer/recoil system. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am torn. I'm definitely going to get one of these... but I don't have in .300 guns. Don't really want any .300 guns. But I want the 7.5 inch barrel. Not 10.5
7.5 is plenty long for 5.56. https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-7043 https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-6783 I have seen the MOD 1 for just under $900. ETA: If you are interested B I will dig up my source for you with excellent pricing. Still going to be AR ergos/aesthetics and not this more modern take on "sporting" rifles. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 5:44:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2020 5:45:32 PM EDT
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Can we be friends? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/328408/0D928178-84E0-4548-9B86-589828ECCD45_jpeg-995244.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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just love super-shorties. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/328408/0D928178-84E0-4548-9B86-589828ECCD45_jpeg-995244.JPG 
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Posted: 1/30/2020 5:55:35 PM EDT
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just love super-shorties. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/328408/0D928178-84E0-4548-9B86-589828ECCD45_jpeg-995244.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20190816_192532-1056863.jpg  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 5:57:43 PM EDT
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OH HAY WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66797/g4cprfh_2_jpg-1256069.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66797/KIMG0087_jpg-1256070.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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just love super-shorties. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/328408/0D928178-84E0-4548-9B86-589828ECCD45_jpeg-995244.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20190816_192532-1056863.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66797/g4cprfh_2_jpg-1256069.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66797/KIMG0087_jpg-1256070.JPG 
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Posted: 1/30/2020 6:00:20 PM EDT
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@beitodstraffe please tell me that you've finally got around to test firing that Kitty Kat.
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Posted: 1/30/2020 6:00:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2020 6:01:15 PM EDT
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OH HAY WHAT IS GOING ON IN HERE? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66797/g4cprfh_2_jpg-1256069.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/66797/KIMG0087_jpg-1256070.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 6:01:38 PM EDT
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@beitodstraffe please tell me that you've finally got around to test firing that Kitty Kat.
But the Gremlin is still running fabulous. 
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Posted: 1/30/2020 9:21:58 PM EDT
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I'd really like to use a Shockwave (Gen 2) Blade that can fold. Any recommendations on an inexpensive (yet decent quality) folding stock adapter? Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 12:25:04 AM EDT
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While I'm slightly annoyed I bought a CZ Bren, I'm thrilled I didn't grab a Brownells BRN upper.
If this upper is anywhere near 6 bills, I'll get one Maybe one of each caliber |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 2:22:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2020 4:23:07 AM EDT
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No it's okay, I don't really care about the piston part particularly. I like the PSA design and just love super-shorties. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am torn. I'm definitely going to get one of these... but I don't have in .300 guns. Don't really want any .300 guns. But I want the 7.5 inch barrel. Not 10.5
7.5 is plenty long for 5.56. https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-7043 https://www.primaryweapons.com/product-url-6783 I have seen the MOD 1 for just under $900. ETA: If you are interested B I will dig up my source for you with excellent pricing. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 8:42:09 AM EDT
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While I'm slightly annoyed I bought a CZ Bren, I'm thrilled I didn't grab a Brownells BRN upper. If this upper is anywhere near 6 bills, I'll get one Maybe one of each caliber |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 7:53:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Likely a prototype for shot show. PSA will get feedback and likely make some changes before the final release. Not sure whats up with those tabs? ETA: Rep from PSA states in the video @1:40 that it is a prototype. So glad to hear they are going to make that charging handle ambi! |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 10:59:41 PM EDT
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I'm in for an upper once they become available. Can't decide which one though. Get both?
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Posted: 2/1/2020 11:05:09 PM EDT
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So when do we expect these to be available?
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Posted: 2/1/2020 11:53:56 PM EDT
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So when do we expect these to be available?
Seriously though, if they can get this to market under $800 for the pistol/brace package I'll buy the 7.5" .300 BO as my first .300 |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 4:56:40 AM EDT
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So when do we expect these to be available? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 4:33:24 PM EDT
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Just saw a video where the guy that designed it said the charging handle on production model will be ambi....!!! I gotta start rolling my pennies!!
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Posted: 2/3/2020 5:31:40 PM EDT
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TFB covers the JAKL at about 2:45 in this video, # 4 on their list of the 5 top rifles of Shot
 The Top 5 Rifles and/or Shotguns of SHOT Show 2020 Got a few shots and details not seen in other vids so far. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 6:03:02 PM EDT
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TFB covers the JAKL at about 2:45 in this video, # 4 on their list of the 5 top rifles of Shot  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5uvXSo7qY
Got a few shots and details not seen in other vids so far. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 6:19:42 PM EDT
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At about 4:06 Talks about Ambi being on production model...
 Palmetto State Armory JAKL: A .300 Blackout Piston Carbine [SHOT Show 2020] |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 6:27:27 PM EDT
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So....tax stamp.
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Posted: 2/3/2020 6:37:56 PM EDT
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So....tax stamp. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 6:48:42 PM EDT
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Fun stuff... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173511/IMG_20160922_202807631_jpg-1256075.JPG |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 7:27:07 PM EDT
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It will ship as a pistol with an AK arm brace. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So....tax stamp. Leaning towards the .300blk. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 7:50:04 PM EDT
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Even the haters have a hard time not giving PSA credit and their due respect. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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TFB covers the JAKL at about 2:45 in this video, # 4 on their list of the 5 top rifles of Shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5uvXSo7qY
Got a few shots and details not seen in other vids so far. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 12:12:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are the specs on this? Lots of machining and testing. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 5:35:05 PM EDT
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I’ve got a lower that’s already stamped that I’ve love to put this on with a non AR looking folder. I’ve been wondering if this design would be likely to work with a Fostech or Franklin armory binary trigger, any speculation on that?
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Posted: 2/22/2020 3:26:03 AM EDT
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I’ve got a lower that’s already stamped that I’ve love to put this on with a non AR looking folder. I’ve been wondering if this design would be likely to work with a Fostech or Franklin armory binary trigger, any speculation on that? I know I’d be over the moon giddy if it was somehow adaptable to work with a rdias. I’d be tickled shitless. 
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:05:03 AM EDT
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Good question. I know I'd be over the moon giddy if it was somehow adaptable to work with a rdias. I'd be tickled shitless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've got a lower that's already stamped that I've love to put this on with a non AR looking folder. I've been wondering if this design would be likely to work with a Fostech or Franklin armory binary trigger, any speculation on that? I know I'd be over the moon giddy if it was somehow adaptable to work with a rdias. I'd be tickled shitless. |
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Posted: 2/24/2020 10:44:14 AM EDT
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If CMMG makes their RDB FA compatible I would expect PSA to make this as such, at least I HOPE. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 6:34:25 PM EDT
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I'd love to know how PSA got it to run reliably. I'd bet a cup of coffee the key is the fact that it is bufferless. I can tell you that Superlative Arms and Primary Weapon Systems have both been unable to produce a system this short and have it run reliably. With both of the aforementioned companies they were running buffers. So we know it can be done short, even shorter (see the Sig Rattler at 5.5") but when it is it is a bufferless design. Fine by me, less weight and one more thing not to go wrong in the field!
ETA: Having said that it is proprietary so you need to have spare parts on hand from PSA as you are not going to be able to go into a Cabela's or your LGS and pick up spare parts for you JAKL. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 7:39:11 PM EDT
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I'd love to know how PSA got it to run reliably. I'd bet a cup of coffee the key is the fact that it is bufferless. I can tell you that Superlative Arms and Primary Weapon Systems have both been unable to produce a system this short and have it run reliably. With both of the aforementioned companies they were running buffers. So we know it can be done short, even shorter (see the Sig Rattler at 5.5") but when it is it is a bufferless design. Fine by me, less weight and one more thing not to go wrong in the field! ETA: Having said that it is proprietary so you need to have spare parts on hand from PSA as you are not going to be able to go into a Cabela's or your LGS and pick up spare parts for you JAKL. PSA has had 7.5" .300 BO in a regular AR buffer design for a long time. I'm assuming they run with no problems. Just don't put the gas block at almost the very end of the barrel, like they did on my 14.7" pinned and welded  . Still haven't taken the time to sort that out.
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Posted: 2/25/2020 8:55:20 PM EDT
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What would be the issue? From what I'm reading the barrel is 7.5 inches. PSA has had 7.5" .300 BO in a regular AR buffer design for a long time. I'm assuming they run with no problems. Just don't put the gas block at almost the very end of the barrel, like they did on my 14.7" pinned and welded . Still haven't taken the time to sort that out. |
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Posted: 2/25/2020 9:06:50 PM EDT
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