![Bravo Company BCM](/images/2016/banners/sticky/BCM_StickyBarAd_225x40.gif)
![Login](/images/2016/spacer.gif)
Posted: 4/7/2021 3:17:33 PM EDT
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/07/science/particle-physics-muon-fermilab-brookhaven.html
Finding From Particle Research Could Rewrite Known Laws of Physics It’s not the next Higgs boson — yet. But the best explanation, physicists say, involves forms of matter and energy not currently known to science. The Muon g-2 ring, at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, Ill., operates at minus 450 degrees Fahrenheit and studies the wobble of muons as they travel through the magnetic field.Credit...Reidar Hahn/Fermilab, via U.S. Department of Energy Dennis Overbye By Dennis Overbye April 7, 2021 Updated 3:15 p.m. ET SIGN UP FOR SCIENCE TIMES: Get stories that capture the wonders of nature, the cosmos and the human body. Sign Up Evidence is mounting that a tiny subatomic particle seems to be disobeying the known laws of physics, scientists announced on Wednesday, a finding that would open a vast and tantalizing hole in our understanding of the universe. The result, physicists say, suggests that there forms of matter and energy vital to the nature and evolution of the cosmos that are not yet known to science. The new work, they said, could eventually lead to breakthroughs more dramatic than the heralded discovery in 2012 of the Higgs boson, a particle that imbues other particles with mass. “This is our Mars rover landing moment,” said Chris Polly, a physicist at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, or Fermilab, in Batavia, Ill., where the research is being conducted. He has been working on the project for most of his career. Dr. Polly is part of an international team of 200 physicists from 35 institutions and seven countries who have been operating an experiment at Fermilab involving muons, subatomic particles that are akin to electrons but far heavier. When muons were shot through an intense magnetic field, they did not behave quite as expected, according to precise theoretical predictions. ADVERTISEMENT View Quote |
|
Hello, I'm WhiskersTheCat. I'm CapnRob's understudy and I'll be taking over for him this evening.
|
|
|
Quoted: LOL let the real experts talk here pal. I think those Iranian scientists on youtube know a little bit more than this arfcom "expert" ![]() View Quote ![]() |
|
I got to work at the Los Alamos one, not much too see but its amazing what it does.
|
|
|
This is another example of how little humans understand when it comes to our existence and the universe. We have come a long damn way in the last century, though!!
|
|
A lot of you do not believe in vaccines but you want to talk about new possible physics?
|
|
Quoted: a vast and tantalizing hole View Quote But enough about my girlfriend ![]() but enough about my girlfriend |
|
|
|
WAUSG (Wild Assed Un-scientific Guess)
Fermilab due to its age has an undetected malfunction in the accelerator or detector. Really though, these are the kinds of things that, once understood, could be a real game changer for humanity. I hope it's real and it's a significant discovery that will enable us to quickly do things we never thought were possible. Energy, transportation, and/or communication could be in for a huge disruption. I'm hopeful. |
|
Quoted: A lot of you do not believe in vaccines but you want to talk about new possible physics? View Quote ![]() |
|
Quoted: At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if we manage to rip a hole in the space/time continuum and unleash an apocalyptic nightmare of inter dimensional aliens/demons/etc. At least the COVID19 nightmare would be over. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: 2021 is the gift that keeps giving At least the COVID19 nightmare would be over. I hope so. Maybe Dolly will get her braces back. |
|
What do cows do when they get exciting physics news like this? Nothing. They just muon.
|
|
Quoted: At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if we manage to rip a hole in the space/time continuum and unleash an apocalyptic nightmare of inter dimensional aliens/demons/etc. At least the COVID19 nightmare would be over. View Quote ![]() |
|
|
Quoted: What do cows do when they get exciting physics news like this? Nothing. They just muon. View Quote ![]() |
|
|
|
|
Paging @
![]() |
|
Finding From Particle Research Could Rewrite Known Laws of Physics It’s not the next Higgs boson — yet. But the best explanation, physicists say, involves forms of matter and energy not currently known to science. The Muon g-2 ring, at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, Ill., operates at minus 450 degrees Fahrenheit and studies the wobble of muons as they travel through the magnetic field.Credit...Reidar Hahn/Fermilab, via U.S. Department of Energy Dennis Overbye By Dennis Overbye April 7, 2021 Updated 3:15 p.m. ET SIGN UP FOR SCIENCE TIMES: Get stories that capture the wonders of nature, the cosmos and the human body. Sign Up Evidence is mounting that a tiny subatomic particle seems to be disobeying the known laws of physics, scientists announced on Wednesday, a finding that would open a vast and tantalizing hole in our understanding of the universe. The result, physicists say, suggests that there forms of matter and energy vital to the nature and evolution of the cosmos that are not yet known to science. The new work, they said, could eventually lead to breakthroughs more dramatic than the heralded discovery in 2012 of the Higgs boson, a particle that imbues other particles with mass. “This is our Mars rover landing moment,” said Chris Polly, a physicist at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, or Fermilab, in Batavia, Ill., where the research is being conducted. He has been working on the project for most of his career. Dr. Polly is part of an international team of 200 physicists from 35 institutions and seven countries who have been operating an experiment at Fermilab involving muons, subatomic particles that are akin to electrons but far heavier. When muons were shot through an intense magnetic field, they did not behave quite as expected, according to precise theoretical predictions. View Quote ignorance of the law is no excuse. |
|
Much of the muon factory was built out of parts from the old antiproton (Pbar) factory. (The Pbar source made the antimatter for the Tevatron to collide with protons which allowed the Tevatron to get twice the collision energy the it was designed for.) Reusing the Pbar source saved a lot of money, got more use out of existing hardware that was paid for and abandoned, and made possible another experiment that's going to follow g-2, called Mu2e.
|
|
I've been telling you guys this for years. How many times have i gone on here, saying that the particle célèbre is the muon, which is akin to an electron but far heavier, and is an integral element of the cosmos.
Duh ! And everyone here is like: "whatever Mayday"...."stop drinking Mayday"....."Put your pants back on Mayday". |
|
maybe muons are what I have been farting lately, not sure what it is but needs to be studied.
|
|
The war of the worlds movie from the 50’s had me all jazzed over Mesons, only to have the Muons come along and destroy it all.
![]() |
|
Quoted: The war of the worlds movie from the 50’s had me all jazzed over Mesons, only to have the Muons come along and destroy it all. ![]() View Quote You're a little confused. The 50s movies were not about Mesons. They were about something much bigger. Light metal particles called aluminatays. |
|
science today: just keep assigning mystery particles and energies when/where needed
|
|
I just saw the bat signal. What are we talking about? I like how the NYT article manages to go on and on about the experiment and not really say anything.
|
|
I really think there is more we don't know than what we know. Each time we seem to get a deeper understand we raise more questions.
|
|
|
How many observed sub atomic particles need to defy the "known laws of physics" before academia admits that our fundamental understanding of physics is fucked?
Asking for a friend ![]() Speed |
|
![]() Why the Muon g-2 Results Are So Exciting! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Ko7NW2yQo |
|
|
Quoted: How many observed sub atomic particles need to defy the "known laws of physics" before academia admits that our fundamental understanding of physics is fucked? Asking for a friend ![]() Speed View Quote |
|
Translation: The fucking LHC is getting upgrades and WE NEED MORE FUNDING!!
|
|
Quoted: The problem is they match the SM pretty fucking well. The deviations are very tiny. There are still some big puzzles left, and the big issue is even if you can detect the deviations, at this point we don't know what they mean. The proton spin puzzle, naturalness, and this result are just a few examples. View Quote Ya, that's mostly over my head, but it would seem like: just because you got MOST of the puzzle pieces to fit, doesn't mean you're actually close to solving the puzzle ![]() You may have just jammed them together wrong in the first place ![]() Speed |
|
|
Quoted: Ya, that's mostly over my head, but it would seem like: just because you got MOST of the puzzle pieces to fit, doesn't mean you're actually close to solving the puzzle ![]() You may have just jammed them together wrong in the first place ![]() Speed View Quote |
|
|
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.