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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:18:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Kathy Griffin held up an effigies of Trump's severed head. Don't recall an FBI investigation into that.
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:22:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kathy Griffin held up an effigies of Trump's severed head. Don't recall an FBI investigation into that. I was going to ask you to explain how that might be relevant to this thread. Then I thought better of that idea. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:22:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny how people are getting so many years in jail over some minimal property damage. What happened there? Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny how people are getting so many years in jail over some minimal property damage. What happened there? DC is a Federal District and not a State, and not a signatory to the BOR. Essentially a foreign country. Banner v. United States (2004). In that case, the court noted that, "simply put…the District and its residents are the subject of Congress' unique powers, exercised to address the unique circumstances of our nation's capital. https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/the-constitution-and-the-district-columbia Should get it's own thread. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:25:58 PM EDT
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Without their cell phones, how were the most serious threats to our democracy since the Civil War supposed to be notified by their glowie handlers of where to meet up?
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:28:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: DC is a Federal District and not a State, and not a signatory to the BOR. Essentially a foreign country. https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/the-constitution-and-the-district-columbia Should get it's own thread. That doesn't address any of the specifics of the complaints against them. It gets tougher to claim innocence when all their friends are snitching on them. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:29:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Samsung still makes a phone with a removable battery. It is an industrial phone IIRC.
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:30:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was going to ask you to explain how that might be relevant to this thread. Then I thought better of that idea. May your chains be as light as your loafers, californio. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:31:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May your chains be as light as your loafers, californio. Do the best you can. Was that it? Thanks. Their legal team is looking for smart guys like you. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kind of tough to take a pic or video from a faraday bag. If only there were some kind of device that could be used to take pictures/video besides a phone. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:42:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apple better than android for secure comms Airplane mode + power off Don’t become involved with the 3 s. All cell phones can be turned on as mics remotely with no lights or noises. Pulling the battery is an option. Or a burner. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:46:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Take a page from Leftists if you’re going to partake in hooligan activity: - No phone - No devices with any sort of connectivity - Completely sanitize your gear. No patches, no ID, no nothing. They've actually got some good info out there, open source, about what to carry, what not to carry, tactics, etc. but fortunately most of them are just useful idiots, pawns who seem to be about retard level and/or just don't care about things like getting arrested. I know Erin has published some stuff on it as have some others who've evaluated their gear lists and tactics and it's very obvious that it wasn't just something some bored college kids put together. Same thing with their big protests; it's not just a random group of lefties- there are the useful idiots, the ones they want you to see who look like a soup sandwich, the ones they want you to see who are put together and then the ones who aren't on scene but can act like a QRF that you most likely won't see. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:47:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't address any of the specifics of the complaints against them. It gets tougher to claim innocence when all their friends are snitching on them. Do you actually believe that they are being subjected to legitimate justice...when we all watched legions of rioters burn down police departments, set fire to federal buildings and walk? If so, stay the fuck in California. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:50:51 PM EDT
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Let's assume that you are one of the rare people who never owned a cell phone or used one.
You want to go do something that you want to keep secret from everyone else. You can't go farther than about half a tank of gas in your car. If you refill there will be a record of it. You can't go in any store. There will be cameras. You can't go on any street where a outside security camera might catch you going by. And, so forth. Your life is a matter of record, in detail, and on sale for anyone who wants to pay to get it. Get used to it. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:52:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you actually believe that they are being subjected to legitimate justice...when we all watched legions of rioters burn down police departments, set fire to federal buildings and walk? If so, stay the fuck in California. Their own friends snitched on them. Did you miss that part? Great bunch of people. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:53:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Strapped to your dog with arfcom open Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just leave your phone on and at home. Strapped to your dog with arfcom open Tape it to a Roomba with random delayed emails or texts programmed to send while you are away. I could devise a robot finger to swipe through pages too. Problem is there is more than just your phone that knows where you are. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:54:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Their own friends snitched on them. Did you miss that part? Great bunch of people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you actually believe that they are being subjected to legitimate justice...when we all watched legions of rioters burn down police departments, set fire to federal buildings and walk? If so, stay the fuck in California. Their own friends snitched on them. Did you miss that part? Great bunch of people. And do you think they did that out of the "goodness" of their own hearts, with no coercion or threats? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:55:30 PM EDT
[#17]
I'm seriously considering jumping on this bandwagon.
 The Anti-Smartphone Revolution |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:58:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Person of Interest was more accurate in a lot of ways than it probably appeared at first glance. Fully agreed. @Third_Rail |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 12:59:24 PM EDT
[#19]
This is a complex topic…
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Posted: 12/29/2022 1:00:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The cell phone geolocation was just parallel construction. They knew who was there from their illegal spying on your phone, TV, microwave, car, emails, secure texting apps, etc.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 1:05:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It only works for incriminating white extremists. Inadequate for Leftist mules stealing elections Don't forget the mysterious (Biden staffer) pipebomb carrying dude on January 5th. The FBI has no clue who he is despite footage of him talking on his cell phone. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 1:14:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no doubt it'd be used against you in court. We need one of those mouse jigglers for phones.  Put it on the bus to San Clemente. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 1:21:49 PM EDT
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I use Signal exclusively these days.
And I delete my messages older than 31 days. Droid phones can be "flashed" with non-G OS and different apps. Buts its not convenient or practical for many. Every single app you install tracks you. Just how it works these days... Get a burner flip phone and use it when away from hime and shut it off 10+miles from home. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 1:22:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they go through that level of Tony Stark tech they will get what they are after regardless lol. I have tried reaching my phone via text, calling and wifi and none work while in the bag so I am not sure what they can do but I am sure it exists. A .30 cal or .50 cal ammo can works great to isolate your cell. It's a Faraday cage. When my phone is in the ammo can it cannot communicate via text or calls. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 2:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A .30 cal or .50 cal ammo can works great to isolate your cell. It's a Faraday cage. When my phone is in the ammo can it cannot communicate via text or calls. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If they go through that level of Tony Stark tech they will get what they are after regardless lol. I have tried reaching my phone via text, calling and wifi and none work while in the bag so I am not sure what they can do but I am sure it exists. A .30 cal or .50 cal ammo can works great to isolate your cell. It's a Faraday cage. When my phone is in the ammo can it cannot communicate via text or calls. Really strapping on the tinfoil, I've always figured that the phone could listen and record anything within range of its microphone then send that recording after it was removed from the Faraday container and/or turned back on. Someone would have to be specifically targeting you or it could just be similar to the way the old carnivore program was triggered by certain words and feeding algorithms (which I'm sure are far more complex and efficient these days). Ted went about things the wrong way, but he wasn't wrong about some things. 
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Posted: 12/29/2022 2:28:40 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget the mysterious (Biden staffer) pipebomb carrying dude on January 5th. The FBI has no clue who he is despite footage of him talking on his cell phone. Oh they know who he is. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 2:29:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Really strapping on the tinfoil, I've always figured that the phone could listen and record anything within range of its microphone then send that recording after it was removed from the Faraday container and/or turned back on. Someone would have to be specifically targeting you or it could just be similar to the way the old carnivore program was triggered by certain words and feeding algorithms (which I'm sure are far more complex and efficient these days). Ted went about things the wrong way, but he wasn't wrong about some things. That's not tinfoil, that's advertisement targeting and has been a thing for decades. Many many apps do audio sampling. The way around it is unsoldering the microphone and using a plug in ear bud mic. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 2:32:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And do you think they did that out of the "goodness" of their own hearts, with no coercion or threats? Would you care if they committed serious crimes? Would that be good or bad, in your opinion? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 2:33:12 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And do you think they did that out of the "goodness" of their own hearts, with no coercion or threats? In the same situation, would you be the first to snitch on your buddies, or the last? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 2:34:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: people don't think SIGINT be like it is, but it do. Phones are a tracking device. Even with your aluminum foil pouches. How does a phone track you when it's unable to communicate with cell towers or GPS when inside a metal pouch? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 3:07:16 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does a phone track you when it's unable to communicate with cell towers or GPS when inside a metal pouch? Getting awfully close to asking for the same ways and means that Snowden traitorously gave to our enemies. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 3:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just leave your phone on and at home. We have a winner folks |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 3:36:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Without their phone how would they have been able to take pictures and videos of themselves to post on social media? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does it or would it look suspicious where suddenly your phone was off grid and a 24-48 hour time span? My point is, those people could've left their phones behind but they would show up as not in use. Am I right? Without their phone how would they have been able to take pictures and videos of themselves to post on social media? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 3:43:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/29/2022 3:44:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: DC is a Federal District and not a State, and not a signatory to the BOR. Essentially a foreign country. https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/the-constitution-and-the-district-columbia Should get it's own thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Funny how people are getting so many years in jail over some minimal property damage. What happened there? DC is a Federal District and not a State, and not a signatory to the BOR. Essentially a foreign country. Banner v. United States (2004). In that case, the court noted that, "simply put the District and its residents are the subject of Congress' unique powers, exercised to address the unique circumstances of our nation's capital. https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/the-constitution-and-the-district-columbia Should get it's own thread. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 3:53:18 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: while true, it is also true that those in power desired to send a hard message to some (literally) "mostly peaceful protesters" If only they had been as smart as Sean Hannity. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 3:59:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not tinfoil, that's advertisement targeting and has been a thing for decades. Many many apps do audio sampling. The way around it is unsoldering the microphone and using a plug in ear bud mic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Really strapping on the tinfoil, I've always figured that the phone could listen and record anything within range of its microphone then send that recording after it was removed from the Faraday container and/or turned back on. Someone would have to be specifically targeting you or it could just be similar to the way the old carnivore program was triggered by certain words and feeding algorithms (which I'm sure are far more complex and efficient these days). Ted went about things the wrong way, but he wasn't wrong about some things. That's not tinfoil, that's advertisement targeting and has been a thing for decades. Many many apps do audio sampling. The way around it is unsoldering the microphone and using a plug in ear bud mic. Yeah I know that happens, I've witnessed it firsthand, I'm just talking about how putting the thing in a Faraday bag possibly/probably isn't enough if it's within earshot (the microphone is still going to be able to pick up sounds unless you disconnect it like you said). Just because it can't receive or transmit while in the bag doesn't mean it wouldn't still pick up sounds (conversations), record them and then relay them when it gets a signal. 
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Posted: 12/29/2022 3:59:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does a phone track you when it's unable to communicate with cell towers or GPS when inside a metal pouch? Your phone has a accelerometer in it. The second your phone connects to a network it knows exactly where it is. They can tell if you're driving vs walking and can make a pretty good guess on how you got from point to point. Sure your faraday pouch may stop it from transmitting in real time but as soon as you take it out of the pouch, they've got you.  Google is Tracking You! Even in Offline or Airplane Mode Phone - by Tucker Carlson |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 4:01:18 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Person of Interest was more accurate in a lot of ways than it probably appeared at first glance. My wife said the same thing the other day... |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 4:07:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit, why didn't I think of that! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just leave your phone on and at home. Holy shit, why didn't I think of that! What about the Apple Watch? ?? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 5:11:04 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the same situation, would you be the first to snitch on your buddies, or the last? Why are you trying so hard to slide the thread? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 5:13:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/29/2022 6:33:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does a phone track you when it's unable to communicate with cell towers or GPS when inside a metal pouch? You know how the health app tells you how many steps you’ve taken today? Yeah, the accelerometer still works in the faraday bag and can report back the path you took. That’s how. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 7:03:36 PM EDT
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Ok, let's say you left your phone at home, streaming ladyboy porn or whatever you're into and went to the January 6 protest. If you don't live in DC, you had to travel there by plane or car. If your car has a GPS, it tracked you the whole way. If you rented one, it definitely tracked you the whole way. If you flew in the plane, your information was on file with the airline. If you used Uber to get to the rally, you were tracked there.
If you removed every little thing from your person that runs on electronics and walked there, then you were in the background of a thousand pictures, taken on phones that were tracked, and by the thousands of cameras mounted in the area, or brought to the area for the event. The only way to escape this is to relinquish any technology newer than about 2002, live off the grid and never leave your property. In which case, they can still find out where you are, because your name is on the land deed and sooner or later you're going to have to go to town for some 50lb bags of sugar and some copper line. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 7:16:16 PM EDT
[#45]
Somebody explain to me how GPS tracks you, exactly?
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Posted: 12/29/2022 7:32:21 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How does a phone track you when it's unable to communicate with cell towers or GPS when inside a metal pouch? You know how the health app tells you how many steps you've taken today? Yeah, the accelerometer still works in the faraday bag and can report back the path you took. According to my phone, I walk anywhere from 8000 to 18000 steps a day, all while driving a truck. I wouldn't count too heavily on the accuracy of the data or collects. ETA: My phone suddenly doesn't like the editor. It keeps adding things to my replies. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 7:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Strapped to your dog with arfcom open "BONGO, QUICK BOY... HIT SUBMIT !!" |
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