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Posted: 1/1/2016 10:35:39 AM EDT
It always amazes me the amount of death and destruction that was the eastern front.
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I also didn't realize that Spain had managed to field a small division on the Eastern Front against the Russians. Not a huge surprise because of Franco fighting the Soviet backed republicans, but new to me. 
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Posted: 1/1/2016 10:36:56 AM EDT
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Thanks and for later
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Posted: 1/1/2016 10:41:11 AM EDT
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Great painting of the Blue Division
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Posted: 1/1/2016 10:50:39 AM EDT
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It always amazes me the amount of death and destruction that was the eastern front. More Photos http://knowledgeglue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/05-7P2uR29.png http://knowledgeglue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/10-iRewpyY.png http://knowledgeglue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/16-UQM3baM.png http://knowledgeglue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/31-5Zi2RVH.png http://knowledgeglue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/2ZMPGg8.jpg I also didn't realize that Spain had managed to field a small division on the Eastern Front against the Russians. Not a huge surprise because of Franco fighting the Soviet backed republicans, but new to me. http://knowledgeglue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/5OQ4n5v.jpg Hitler backed Franco during their civil war, He really wanted to use Spain to attack England but Spain wanted to stay out if, I would imagine he gave some troops to fight for the Germans as a peace offering. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 10:52:14 AM EDT
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Tier One 
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Posted: 1/1/2016 10:57:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNotice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? I wonder how many Germans he killed after being finally surrounded and killed in a hail of gunfire, while atop a mass of dead bodies? 100? 200? 1000? |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 10:57:49 AM EDT
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short color video
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:03:26 AM EDT
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Holy Shit! That was some amazing video.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:07:01 AM EDT
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TONS of historic and modern excavation pics of weapons, armor, relics and forgotten dead here.
https://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/The-Ghosts-of-the-Eastern-Front-451074868343353/ |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:09:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryDual-weilding revolvers potential. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat's one hard mofo |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:14:48 AM EDT
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Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? That's a studio photograph. The weapons are probably photographer's props. (In the American Civil War, photographers supplied weapons for use in the pictures.) Notice that this guy is shown with two revolvers, one in the holster with the flap open, and the other one thrust casually through the belt. No one would actually carry a load of weapons in this manner. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:15:01 AM EDT
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If anyone is interested Dan Carlin has a three part podcast series on the eastern front in WWII. It's called Ghosts of the Ostfront and it's excellent.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:16:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's a studio photograph. The weapons are probably photographer's props. (In the American Civil War, photographers supplied weapons for use in the pictures.) Notice that this guy is shown with two revolvers, one in the holster with the flap open, and the other one thrust casually through the belt. No one would actually carry a load of weapons in this manner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? That's a studio photograph. The weapons are probably photographer's props. (In the American Civil War, photographers supplied weapons for use in the pictures.) Notice that this guy is shown with two revolvers, one in the holster with the flap open, and the other one thrust casually through the belt. No one would actually carry a load of weapons in this manner. He was likely 1 of 5 assigned to a single rifle. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:17:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's one hard mofo Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's one hard mofo Who dat 
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:22:33 AM EDT
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B/c...fuck shaving regs
 Awesomeness...  |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:26:43 AM EDT
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Watching Band of Brothers now and the Eastern front infantry battles. The Ardnennes offensive was brutal.
The pictures of the West are amazing. Stalin didn't fuck around. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 11:40:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHe was more likely a 17-19 year old peasant who had been given rudimentary instruction on how to work a Mosin bolt and charge a PPSh. This picture is just like the US Civil War daguerreotypes of young men posing with 2 revolvers and a big Bowie knife jammed through their belt or hell Facebook pictures of holding a pair of M249s. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:07:01 PM EDT
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Great photos and video.Looking at the photos,especially of the child dead on the doorstep and the burning villages reminds me once again that you can't blame the Russian soldier for what he did once he reached Germany.The Germans wanted a war of no mercy and that's what they got.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:16:29 PM EDT
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*EDIT: Goddamn imgur! These photos showed up fine several hours ago. I had to go back and find a different host.
Mostly Waffen SS, mostly Ostfront, with a few random thrown in (color photos, artwork, etc.): 
Below photo is supposed to be from Estonia, of course I can't be certain: 
Below: Heading out yet again in the inferno that was Stalingrad: 
Obviously not Ostfront, but an interesting photo: 
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:25:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Great photos and video.Looking at the photos,especially of the child dead on the doorstep and the burning villages reminds me once again that you can't blame the Russian soldier for what he did once he reached Germany.The Germans wanted a war of no mercy and that's what they got. Tell that to the modern Japanese sympathizers who feel we did Japan great injustices. I had an argument on FB with one. She refused to look at any history, and only had "but I lived there for a year and got to know a family" to go on. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:30:39 PM EDT
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Nice video, I was there but not in this lifetime, but those types of storytelling are for a different thread topic,
Anyone wonder how many of those men didn't see the sunset of the day some of those snippets were filmed, some not not even the end of the week? |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:35:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Mostly Waffen SS, mostly Ostfront, with a few random thrown in (color photos, artwork, etc.): http://i.imgur.com/gYz57ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JtcMQ4A.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QIs5Otc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oRhEHXy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WXKtkhc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/eecmaCq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9OPLbVG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1Wk47IW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8qK3whq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IKMaXwa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/121H1a4.jpg The below photo (castle in background) is supposed to be from Estonia, but of course I can't verify it: http://i.imgur.com/HYVSwIt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/doYeKQP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oDk12P9.jpg Pics not loading |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:37:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySmith & Wesson? Doesn't look like aNagant. Dude was probably connected to the NKVD. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:40:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Mostly Waffen SS, mostly Ostfront, with a few random thrown in (color photos, artwork, etc.): http://i.imgur.com/gYz57ff.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JtcMQ4A.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QIs5Otc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oRhEHXy.jpg http://i.imgur.com/WXKtkhc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/eecmaCq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/9OPLbVG.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1Wk47IW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8qK3whq.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IKMaXwa.jpg http://i.imgur.com/121H1a4.jpg The below photo (castle in background) is supposed to be from Estonia, but of course I can't verify it: [/url] http://i.imgur.com/doYeKQP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oDk12P9.jpg Yes,that is the Narva river. The east bank and castle was Estonian before the war but Russia took it as reparations for having to invade in 1940... Here are a couple pics of mine: the Germans are near the Hermann castle on the left. The Ivangorod castle is Russia with the border being the river of course. 
There was a thread about a recent Estonian war movie,1944,a week ago that you may like to see. I rehosted the pic 
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistorySmith & Wesson? Doesn't look like aNagant. Dude was probably connected to the NKVD. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:43:37 PM EDT
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The Eastern Front has always held my interest.
Modern maneuver war on a massive scale. This is a good historical novel if you like this kind of stuff - protagonist is a Blue Division veteran  |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:44:37 PM EDT
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I had distance relatives in the Blue Division. They left Spain and never returned.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryNotice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? I wonder how many Germans he killed after being finally surrounded and killed in a hail of gunfire, while atop a mass of dead bodies? 100? 200? 1000? |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:51:08 PM EDT
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The eastern front was the real WW2.
Germany was beat by mid 44'. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's a studio photograph. The weapons are probably photographer's props. (In the American Civil War, photographers supplied weapons for use in the pictures.) Notice that this guy is shown with two revolvers, one in the holster with the flap open, and the other one thrust casually through the belt. No one would actually carry a load of weapons in this manner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? That's a studio photograph. The weapons are probably photographer's props. (In the American Civil War, photographers supplied weapons for use in the pictures.) Notice that this guy is shown with two revolvers, one in the holster with the flap open, and the other one thrust casually through the belt. No one would actually carry a load of weapons in this manner. there a lot of photos of guys with all kinds of stuff on, I know in Stalingrad they often carried as much ammo and grenades as they could for close combat. So I don't know if all of them are posed photos as many are taken in the field. Guns and weapons in a belt or sash does go way back. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:57:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Who dat Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's one hard mofo Who dat That's Private Pyle-ski. He's been born-again-hard. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 12:58:59 PM EDT
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I try, and fail, to imagine the US Army of WWII taking the amount of casualties the belligerents took on the Eastern front.
It's too depressing to contemplate. Trying to imagine just 1 million combat deaths blows my mind. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:03:13 PM EDT
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this series of videos shows part of the price paid. mainly a collection of stills, some of them have video clips mixed in if you watch them all.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:08:10 PM EDT
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I try, and fail, to imagine the US Army of WWII taking the amount of casualties the belligerents took on the Eastern front. It's too depressing to contemplate. Trying to imagine just 1 million combat deaths blows my mind. Just as a comparison,about 16 million Americans served in uniform in WWII. Russia ended the war with 14 million soldiers KIA KIA/BNR. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:11:14 PM EDT
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It always amazes me the amount of death and destruction that was the eastern front. What amazes me is the scope of it. The size of the battlefields is hard to comprehend. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:11:18 PM EDT
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Russian photos, they did not like to publish pictures of their losses, dead Germans sure, but their side smashed not so much. I am sure they did take plenty of photos and video but they do not like to admit just how bad it was. Some of it has been found and shown though, if you watch some of the longer videos.
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a studio photograph. The weapons are probably photographer's props. (In the American Civil War, photographers supplied weapons for use in the pictures.) Notice that this guy is shown with two revolvers, one in the holster with the flap open, and the other one thrust casually through the belt. No one would actually carry a load of weapons in this manner. Quote HistoryQuoted: Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? That's a studio photograph. The weapons are probably photographer's props. (In the American Civil War, photographers supplied weapons for use in the pictures.) Notice that this guy is shown with two revolvers, one in the holster with the flap open, and the other one thrust casually through the belt. No one would actually carry a load of weapons in this manner. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Watching Band of Brothers now and the Eastern front infantry battles. The Ardnennes offensive was brutal. The pictures of the West are amazing. Stalin didn't fuck around. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:14:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great painting of the Blue Division https://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/442/441777/darte2.jpg Looks cool, but TERRIBLE dispersion. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:25:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The Eastern Front has always held my interest. Modern maneuver war on a massive scale. This is a good historical novel if you like this kind of stuff - protagonist is a Blue Division veteran http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1320531211l/533239.jpg I sent a copy of this book to another member here. good book. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:25:52 PM EDT
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Tell that to the modern Japanese sympathizers who feel we did Japan great injustices. I had an argument on FB with one. She refused to look at any history, and only had "but I lived there for a year and got to know a family" to go on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great photos and video.Looking at the photos,especially of the child dead on the doorstep and the burning villages reminds me once again that you can't blame the Russian soldier for what he did once he reached Germany.The Germans wanted a war of no mercy and that's what they got. Tell that to the modern Japanese sympathizers who feel we did Japan great injustices. I had an argument on FB with one. She refused to look at any history, and only had "but I lived there for a year and got to know a family" to go on. My father in law was sitting on a destroyer in the Pacific when the war ended,you'll never convince him Harry Truman wasn't one of our greatest Presidents.Anybody that's a Japanese sympathizer/apologist needs to be reminded of the Rape of Nanking or Unit 731.Just like the Germans the Japanese wanted a Racial War of no mercy,well they got it. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:29:27 PM EDT
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 That looks like an AK. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:33:26 PM EDT
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Remember the constant threat on "Hogan's Heroes" was to be sent to the Russian front.
If you can, read "The Forgotten Soldier." It's incredible what human beings can withstand. If they don't get killed first. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 1:59:50 PM EDT
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I wonder how encumbering those German gas mask canisters were to the troops?
Seems it was standard equipment even in the latter part of the war where in most pics, they mostly all still carry them I don't seem to recall that gas was ever used in WWII even on the Eastern Front. Or was it? |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 2:21:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great painting of the Blue Division https://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/442/441777/darte2.jpg Verdad. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 2:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? I wonder how many Germans he killed after being finally surrounded and killed in a hail of gunfire, while atop a mass of dead bodies? 100? 200? 1000? Probably killed a few hundred yards from the front by indirect artillery fire if we are going from statistics. Quote HistoryQuoted: Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? I wonder how many Germans he killed after being finally surrounded and killed in a hail of gunfire, while atop a mass of dead bodies? 100? 200? 1000? Probably killed a few hundred yards from the front by indirect artillery fire if we are going from statistics. kid has one hand |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 2:44:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He was likely 1 of 5 assigned to a single rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? That's a studio photograph. The weapons are probably photographer's props. (In the American Civil War, photographers supplied weapons for use in the pictures.) Notice that this guy is shown with two revolvers, one in the holster with the flap open, and the other one thrust casually through the belt. No one would actually carry a load of weapons in this manner. He was likely 1 of 5 assigned to a single rifle. Hollywood. Small arms shortages happened in early parts of '41 as the Red Army was being pushed back and every available person was being pushed into service to fight the Nazi invaders. By the time the front stabilized in late '41, the Soviet supply system was in order.(mostly) |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 2:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What amazes me is the scope of it. The size of the battlefields is hard to comprehend. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It always amazes me the amount of death and destruction that was the eastern front. What amazes me is the scope of it. The size of the battlefields is hard to comprehend. There are battles completely forgotten about, that still are way beyond the scope of any battle fought in the west. |
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Posted: 1/1/2016 3:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? I wonder how many Germans he killed after being finally surrounded and killed in a hail of gunfire, while atop a mass of dead bodies? 100? 200? 1000? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Notice how he has fragmentation AND anti-tank grenades? I wonder how many Germans he killed after being finally surrounded and killed in a hail of gunfire, while atop a mass of dead bodies? 100? 200? 1000? He apparently subscribed to the two is one, and one is none theory for pistols. |
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