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Posted: 8/2/2019 2:56:24 PM EDT
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Candidate Trump made a lot of pro 2A comments. President Trump is a gun banner at heart, but he was and will continue to be the lesser of evils. It's that whole #gottasupporttheteam mindset-Make excuses/justifications/defenses/counter accusations when our side passes gun control (or increase spending,expands the size of gov.,etc..) and bitch about the left doing it. What is this long term plan of lesser evil each time going to give us? |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 3:01:40 PM EDT
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Would be nice if he actually did something pro 2a. So far he has done nothing.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 3:06:55 PM EDT
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Would be nice if he actually did something pro 2a. So far he has done nothing. 
We can't even get a Status Quo when the pro gun Party is in power. 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 3:10:01 PM EDT
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Trump doesn't really understand guns or the gun community. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 3:12:02 PM EDT
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LOL. Based on the new "special snowflake" CoC here, I don't think many people understand the gun community. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/2/2019 3:39:09 PM EDT
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It's not what he says. It's what he does. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 3:40:30 PM EDT
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How does that "lesser evil" part play out in the long run? It's that whole #gottasupporttheteam mindset-Make excuses/justifications/defenses/counter accusations when our side passes gun control (or increase spending,expands the size of gov.,etc..) and bitch about the left doing it. What is this long term plan of lesser evil each time going to give us? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Candidate Trump made a lot of pro 2A comments. President Trump is a gun banner at heart, but he was and will continue to be the lesser of evils. It's that whole #gottasupporttheteam mindset-Make excuses/justifications/defenses/counter accusations when our side passes gun control (or increase spending,expands the size of gov.,etc..) and bitch about the left doing it. What is this long term plan of lesser evil each time going to give us? |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 3:41:24 PM EDT
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Elections are coming. That is all. And I love Trump, but his lack of followthrough on 2A and bumpstocks position is disappointing. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:01:40 PM EDT
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If you can't primary a more pro gun candidate, do you vote for Trump or (fill in the blank - Harris, Warren, Biden, etc)? I get it. It's a slow burn and the only hope is a pro gun electable candidate will emerge for '24. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Candidate Trump made a lot of pro 2A comments. President Trump is a gun banner at heart, but he was and will continue to be the lesser of evils. It's that whole #gottasupporttheteam mindset-Make excuses/justifications/defenses/counter accusations when our side passes gun control (or increase spending,expands the size of gov.,etc..) and bitch about the left doing it. What is this long term plan of lesser evil each time going to give us? And all we've gotten is gun control,more spending,and bigger government.Trump was the first Presidential candidate on the ballot that I voted for in decades,even though I had reservations knowing his past,I figured he was worth a shot.He lost my vote this time around. I'll go back to a write in or 3rd Party. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:06:50 PM EDT
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I think that is the thought of any reasonable person. I love him and will definitely vote for him but holy shit I hope he is getting some sort of message on the 2nd. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Elections are coming. That is all. And I love Trump, but his lack of followthrough on 2A and bumpstocks position is disappointing. I can’t wait to see the next republican, I predict rick Scott. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:07:01 PM EDT
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America's real problem... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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More Americans are concerned about a stupid TV show, in which a whore picks some guy for a date. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:30:22 PM EDT
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No offense,but I've been hearing that shit for 30+ years...And all we've gotten is gun control I'll go back to a write in or 3rd Party. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:32:07 PM EDT
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Hell,I don't understand the gun community-supposed to be pro 2nd Amendment,but constantly support those who pass laws against it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:33:23 PM EDT
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LOL, it doesn't matter if you heard for 100 years, it is something that applies to every election. You have a choice of someone not great and someone who will be terrible. One of those two is going to win. Scream at the sky all you want about 3rd parties but they have accomplished nothing over those same 30 years. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No offense,but I've been hearing that shit for 30+ years...And all we've gotten is gun control I'll go back to a write in or 3rd Party. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:36:28 PM EDT
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For most of my 62 years, I've voted against a candidate, not FOR one. Just saying??.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:38:27 PM EDT
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Cool so what pro gun candidates are you suggesting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No offense,but I've been hearing that shit for 30+ years...And all we've gotten is gun control I'll go back to a write in or 3rd Party. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:41:10 PM EDT
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For most of my 62 years, I've voted against a candidate, not FOR one. Just saying??. Picking between the guy that banned something I own after saying he wouldn’t vs somebody who says they want to ban something but probably can’t, won’t go well at all. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:41:53 PM EDT
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No offense,but I've been hearing that shit for 30+ years...And all we've gotten is gun control I'll go back to a write in or 3rd Party. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:48:57 PM EDT
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The republicans only represents the wealthiest Americans. Us regular folk just get tied to the party because we support a strong military, small government, reductions in spending, and the 2A.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:49:58 PM EDT
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The republicans only represents the wealthiest Americans. Us regular folk just get tied to the party because we support a strong military, small government, reductions in spending, and the 2A. 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:55:23 PM EDT
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LOL, it doesn't matter if you heard for 100 years, it is something that applies to every election. You have a choice of someone not great and someone who will be terrible. One of those two is going to win. Scream at the sky all you want about 3rd parties but they have accomplished nothing over those same 30 years. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No offense,but I've been hearing that shit for 30+ years...And all we've gotten is gun control I'll go back to a write in or 3rd Party. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. Romney didn't even make the top 5 in our caucus here,and look how that turned out.I sent money to Nehlen and Ward,and look how that turned out.I call,write,and e-mail my reps on a regular basis,all for pretty much nothing.I did work hard to boot our dem state senator and replace him with a pro gun Republican.All I can do is local. I can only affect those around me,and have no sway over the rest of the state or country,and when the majority doesn't want smaller government,less spending,and an original 2nd Amendment,those of us that do are screwed. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:56:18 PM EDT
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The republicans only represents the wealthiest Americans. Us regular folk just get tied to the party because we support a strong military, small government, reductions in spending, and the 2A. 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:57:04 PM EDT
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We are to the Republican Party what black people are to the Democrats. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/2/2019 4:58:17 PM EDT
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LOL, it doesn't matter if you heard for 100 years, it is something that applies to every election. You have a choice of someone not great and someone who will be terrible. One of those two is going to win. Scream at the sky all you want about 3rd parties but they have accomplished nothing over those same 30 years. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:00:30 PM EDT
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Can anyone name a single republican POTUS who did a damn thing for us to restore any of rights?
The either took rights or did nothing. Hell Bush Jr even said do not put another AWB on my desk because he would sign it. It is all about voting in the lesser of two evils. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:01:27 PM EDT
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For most of my 62 years, I've voted against a candidate, not FOR one. Just saying??. Hell,we still have the Dept of Education that Reagan ran on getting rid of.The same Reagan that increased the size and spending of the gov. even with all his great speeches.............. You and I wont see what it's like 50 yrs from now,but I'm guessing we'll have an even bigger government,spending in the Jillions,and a shitload of restrictions on what's left of the 2nd............and they'll still be supporting the lesser evil as a winning strategy. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:02:58 PM EDT
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Can anyone name a single republican POTUS who did a damn thing for us to restore any of rights? The either took rights or did nothing. Hell Bush Jr even said do not put another AWB on my desk because he would sign it. It is all about voting in the lesser of two evils. And I had hopes that Trump would be the first.....
The lesser evil is still evil,so I'll pass. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:04:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:05:54 PM EDT
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Can anyone name a single republican POTUS who did a damn thing for us to restore any of rights? The either took rights or did nothing. Hell Bush Jr even said do not put another AWB on my desk because he would sign it. It is all about voting in the lesser of two evils. Voting lesser of two evils caused that. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:09:07 PM EDT
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I always envisioned our relationship with the Republican party as looking like this.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWMQuote HistoryQuoted:
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And like the blacks,most are proud of it......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWMBUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... [youtube]https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU[/youtube] 25 yr old cartoon sums up the stupidity of the people.............. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:10:16 PM EDT
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That's the thing,we do have somewhere else to go. BUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:12:52 PM EDT
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That is seriously your argument FOR voting lesser of two evils? Voting lesser of two evils caused that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can anyone name a single republican POTUS who did a damn thing for us to restore any of rights? The either took rights or did nothing. Hell Bush Jr even said do not put another AWB on my desk because he would sign it. It is all about voting in the lesser of two evils. Voting lesser of two evils caused that. It's not a third rail in politics anymore.Voting for restrictions on the 2nd doesn't get you booted from office,but actually rewarded.You'd be kidding yourself if you think those at the top aren't paying attention. We'll end up with a choice of a Republican wanting to ban mags over 30 rds,and a dem wanting to ban mags over 10 rds,and we'll be told how we just must vote for the lesser evil again...................
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:15:03 PM EDT
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What is the other option? A third party? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump doesn't really understand guns or the gun community.
And like the blacks,most are proud of it......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWMBUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU
25 yr old cartoon sums up the stupidity of the people.............. Yea it’s going to cause some pain but the alternative is to continue to vote for the leftward March. Because it is the 100th consecutive most important election EVER. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:15:13 PM EDT
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What is the other option? A third party? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And like the blacks,most are proud of it......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWMBUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:20:09 PM EDT
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And it will get worse since gunowners have shown that they will still support the R no matter what. It's not a third rail in politics anymore.Voting for restrictions on the 2nd doesn't get you booted from office,but actually rewarded.You'd be kidding yourself if you think those at the top aren't paying attention. We'll end up with a choice of a Republican wanting to ban mags over 30 rds,and a dem wanting to ban mags over 10 rds,and we'll be told how we just must vote for the lesser evil again................... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can anyone name a single republican POTUS who did a damn thing for us to restore any of rights? The either took rights or did nothing. Hell Bush Jr even said do not put another AWB on my desk because he would sign it. It is all about voting in the lesser of two evils. Voting lesser of two evils caused that. It's not a third rail in politics anymore.Voting for restrictions on the 2nd doesn't get you booted from office,but actually rewarded.You'd be kidding yourself if you think those at the top aren't paying attention. We'll end up with a choice of a Republican wanting to ban mags over 30 rds,and a dem wanting to ban mags over 10 rds,and we'll be told how we just must vote for the lesser evil again................... Trump dropped all mentions of bumpstocks prior to the midterm Then every ones favorite gun grabbing republican gov Scott wins an election and a month later the bumpstocks became illegal. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:21:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:24:55 PM EDT
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Third forth fifth...... Yea it’s going to cause some pain but the alternative is to continue to vote for the leftward March. Because it is the 100th consecutive most important election EVER. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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25 yr old cartoon sums up the stupidity of the people.............. Yea it’s going to cause some pain but the alternative is to continue to vote for the leftward March. Because it is the 100th consecutive most important election EVER. 
Decades ago,any Republican even suggesting gun control should have been booted out of office never to be heard from again in the world of politics,let alone reelected.We would be in a much better place if we had held them accountable to the Party Platform back then. Instead,we let them expand gov. and spending,infringe on the 2nd,and bend over and ask for more................ |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:26:44 PM EDT
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Yes,BUT,it only works if the majority want smaller gov.,less spending,and an original 2nd Amendment.And we know that's not the case,so some of us will vote 3rd party,and the rest will obediently pull the R lever no matter what,and we'll get the government we deserve................ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump doesn't really understand guns or the gun community.
And like the blacks,most are proud of it......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWMBUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:26:52 PM EDT
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"Sir? Does this mean that Ann Margret isn't coming"? |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:28:17 PM EDT
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So the parties are representing what the majority want? That's shocking in a representative government. If only the minority had a recourse in a representative government. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump doesn't really understand guns or the gun community.
And like the blacks,most are proud of it......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T575Pbo4eWMBUT,that whole support the team shit keeps most tied to it (like the blacks with the dems). Someday the two choices will be between slightly lesser evils......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=https://youtu.be/l7l9QmtiXHU
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:33:46 PM EDT
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The majority are ignorant and apathetic and probably don't know what the Constitution is............... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:40:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:41:10 PM EDT
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Like a constitution?? That only works for a little while, our politicians and judges burned ours decades ago. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:41:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:45:54 PM EDT
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Actions speak louder than words, Mr. President
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:53:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:55:46 PM EDT
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Trump doesn't really understand guns or the gun community.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 5:56:12 PM EDT
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LOL, it doesn't matter if you heard for 100 years, it is something that applies to every election. You have a choice of someone not great and someone who will be terrible. One of those two is going to win. Scream at the sky all you want about 3rd parties but they have accomplished nothing over those same 30 years. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No offense,but I've been hearing that shit for 30+ years...And all we've gotten is gun control I'll go back to a write in or 3rd Party. What you should be doing is spending time and money to help pro-gun candidates in the primary. But doing nothing and then bitching about the results is much easier. he just chose to run in the R primary because it was an easier path in 2016 |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 6:00:34 PM EDT
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He's running for President, he'll say whatever it takes to get him elected and then do what he actually wants. Like changing laws via bureaucrats, not actually reducing the debt, not shrinking government, etc etc
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Posted: 8/2/2019 6:03:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn,you prove your own point............. Trump knows the vast majority of gun owners will; support him no matter what,so he can play some lip service.This is why we are where we are,and where we are headed. What do you get when you reward bad behavior instead of holding them accountable??? |
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