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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:44:17 PM EDT
Dropped by the nearest Home Depot to pick up some chlorine tablets. Last summer, around here there was a shortage of pool chemicals. I decided to pick some up before the summer rush and couldn’t believe how much the price of chlorine tabs went up. I could’ve sworn that this time last year, a 35lb container was around $90. This morning, that same 35lb container was $199. Damn.
 . I guess if you need it. . . I do the pool upkeep myself. . . Some of my friends in the area are paying $130-$150/mo. for a pool guy to come out once a week. That’s crazy.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:45:17 PM EDT
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LoL, that’s the reason I got rid of my pool after last season. Joe Biden did this.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:45:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:48:11 PM EDT
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You're a 1-pool-center, pay thy fair share!
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:50:36 PM EDT
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We are building a pool right now. Everyone keeps telling me that chlorine is higher than hell right now.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:51:18 PM EDT
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What would it cost to convert to saltwater?
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:53:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What would it cost to convert to saltwater? It was originally saltwater but I bypassed it a few years back. I drained the pool and just refilled the pool with freshwater (didn’t add the salt). It seems like the chlorine generators only last 5 or so years. It was nice in the summer when I had it though. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 2:56:02 PM EDT
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I’m framing a soffit in my basement. Wanted 2x4x12 #1’s but all they had was 2x4x10’s. They were $11.75 / each.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:00:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm framing a soffit in my basement. Wanted 2x4x12 #1's but all they had was 2x4x10's. They were $11.75 / each. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/167625/D5ED2F8D-037C-4353-BD6C-D4B472679F81_jpe-2255301.JPG Final house bid was in November. Closing takes forever. Last week it was bid again and the price had gone up $17,400, mostly because of lumber. Lumber is on its way back down right now. Hoping to close in two weeks and hoping to order lumber on the dip. I picked a shit time to build a house. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:01:43 PM EDT
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I have 125 lbs of tabs that I bought before prices got stupid.
Might have to neckbeard some of them when the weather gets nice. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:02:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LoL, that’s the reason I got rid of my pool after last season. Joe Biden did this. You got rid of your pool bc you couldn’t afford an extra hundred bucks in chlorine a year? It would cost me $10k to have mine removed. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:03:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are building a pool right now. Everyone keeps telling me that chlorine is higher than hell right now. Sounds like you should spend your money doing something else. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:03:56 PM EDT
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Yep, regular Bleach too. had me looking at buying Clorox stock. Somebody has achieved monopoly pricing power.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:12:00 PM EDT
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We struggled though shortages last year and bought a saltwater system at the end of the season for a decent price. Hopefully we use very little chlorine this year.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:18:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LoL, that’s the reason I got rid of my pool after last season. Joe Biden did this. Got rid of? That sounds like above ground action... |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:20:23 PM EDT
[#15]
Use bleach
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:21:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Use bleach |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:21:52 PM EDT
[#17]
I get mine from intheswim.com. Good price and big container.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:22:09 PM EDT
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You need one of these about 100x larger.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:22:31 PM EDT
[#19]
So you are saying that things are going up in price????
When did this start happening Going back under my rock, brb |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:24:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you priced bleach lately? Its still only a about 3 bucks ish a gallon here |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:24:48 PM EDT
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I found Costco has/had good prices. Until next time
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:25:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You need one of these about 100x larger. https://www.rei.com/media/8b3af895-cccd-4491-b2e5-17c0ef49fccb?size=784x588 You can buy industrial UV systems for the low thousands. Why not put one on a pool? |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can buy industrial UV systems for the low thousands. Why not put one on a pool? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You need one of these about 100x larger. https://www.rei.com/media/8b3af895-cccd-4491-b2e5-17c0ef49fccb?size=784x588 You can buy industrial UV systems for the low thousands. Why not put one on a pool? Doesn’t sanitize enough. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:29:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn’t sanitize enough. They will sanitize the effluent from a 15,000 gallon per day shit plant. Tell me it won't sanitize a swimming pool! Not to mention the shit plant is one-pass, the swimming pool is multi-pass. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:30:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They will sanitize the effluent from a 15,000 gallon per day shit plant. Tell me it won't sanitize a swimming pool! Not to mention the shit plant is one-pass, the swimming pool is multi-pass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Doesn’t sanitize enough. They will sanitize the effluent from a 15,000 gallon per day shit plant. Tell me it won't sanitize a swimming pool! Not to mention the shit plant is one-pass, the swimming pool is multi-pass. they make a special system for pools My uncle has one...it's a UV/Ozone set up, kills every damn thing in the water and makes the water crystal clear...no chemicals to fuck with and it just works. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:31:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Dropped by the nearest Home Depot to pick up some chlorine tablets. Last summer, around here there was a shortage of pool chemicals. I decided to pick some up before the summer rush and couldn’t believe how much the price of chlorine tabs went up. I could’ve sworn that this time last year, a 35lb container was around $90. This morning, that same 35lb container was $199. Damn. . I guess if you need it. . . I do the pool upkeep myself. . . Some of my friends in the area are paying $130-$150/mo. for a pool guy to come out once a week. That’s crazy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309803/1E9C6457-AFF8-4CA0-8555-606B47A962AA_jpe-2255272.JPG Don't ask me to bid route then. Ours is easily double that for weekly service. Granted, I'm likely the most expensive in the area, but you get what you pay for. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:33:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What would it cost to convert to saltwater? ~$3,000 for SWG installed, including salt |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:33:55 PM EDT
[#28]
@CUJ0 Go to Amazon and grab the HTH 25lb bucket but not as it pops up initially. It pops up at $153 on Amazon from HTH directly but if you scroll down on the right it is only $95 from Amazon. Still too high, but about as good as I could find.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:36:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They will sanitize the effluent from a 15,000 gallon per day shit plant. Tell me it won't sanitize a swimming pool! Not to mention the shit plant is one-pass, the swimming pool is multi-pass. In before Leeloo Dallas. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:36:30 PM EDT
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Last summer my local ollies had liquid chlorine on sale. I think I bought 40 or 50 gallons. Plus a ton of powdered chlorine as well. Is it as simple as the tabs? No. But it was available and cheap. I probably won't have to buy any for two years.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:38:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can buy industrial UV systems for the low thousands. Why not put one on a pool? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You need one of these about 100x larger. https://www.rei.com/media/8b3af895-cccd-4491-b2e5-17c0ef49fccb?size=784x588 You can buy industrial UV systems for the low thousands. Why not put one on a pool? You can. Or ozone, ozone/uv, or hydroxyl-based AOP. They will reduce the demand for sanitizer, but won't completely eliminate it. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:39:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: they make a special system for pools My uncle has one...it's a UV/Ozone set up, kills every damn thing in the water and makes the water crystal clear...no chemicals to fuck with and it just works. I have one on my pool, they work but you still need chlorine (albeit) less. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last summer my local ollies had liquid chlorine on sale. I think I bought 40 or 50 gallons. Plus a ton of powdered chlorine as well. Is it as simple as the tabs? No. But it was available and cheap. I probably won't have to buy any for two years. The liquid chlorine has already lost most of its strength. Cal-hypo or trichlor is stable though |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:43:31 PM EDT
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Probably cost less than you'll spend in chemicals in a year or so.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @CUJ0 Go to Amazon and grab the HTH 25lb bucket but not as it pops up initially. It pops up at $153 on Amazon from HTH directly but if you scroll down on the right it is only $95 from Amazon. Still too high, but about as good as I could find. Thank you, Sir. I ended up biting the bullet at HD with my 10% mil discount. I was just surprised that it had went up so much. The 2x1 gallon box of liquid chlorine didn’t seem to go up as much. I picked some up at $9.75ish per box so not too bad. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:46:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ~$3,000 for SWG installed, including salt Thanks. Guess we’ll stick with chlorine. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The liquid chlorine has already lost most of its strength. Cal-hypo or trichlor is stable though Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last summer my local ollies had liquid chlorine on sale. I think I bought 40 or 50 gallons. Plus a ton of powdered chlorine as well. Is it as simple as the tabs? No. But it was available and cheap. I probably won't have to buy any for two years. The liquid chlorine has already lost most of its strength. Cal-hypo or trichlor is stable though Clorox ~10% active chlorine Commercial Sodium hypochlorite 12.5% Trichlor tabs ~50% chlorine/50% stabilizer (can become an issue if you only used stabilized chlorine for sanitation and shock, more so if you have no way to backwash) Calhypo 58% Calhypo 68% Calhypo 78% (this actually comes from manufacturing a little over 80% to remain above claimed 78% for the entire shelf life) Remember chlorine is a gas and not a solid granule or a liquid. So these numbers are mean even less chlorine once it hits the water and "converts". Bottom line: get the most potent, pure chlorine you can get and pair it with some additional, alternative sanitizer. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:51:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They will sanitize the effluent from a 15,000 gallon per day shit plant. Tell me it won't sanitize a swimming pool! Not to mention the shit plant is one-pass, the swimming pool is multi-pass. "In current practices, UV disinfection finds it's most efficient use in drinking water treatment. We have at least a few TFP members who work in the water treatment industry so they can certainly respond better. However, in that context, UV disinfection systems are typically deployed inside surge-tanks that hold 10,000-15,000 gallons of water at a single time and the UV sources are allowed to operate for longer periods of time on those volumes. UV systems are also used in conjunction with Ozone & Peroxide treatment tanks (referred to as peroxone in the industry) to act as another layer of disinfection. Once again, these are static volumes of water that are fully treated before entering a closed loop distribution system; this is a far cry from the way residential pools operate. " In short, unlike drinking water, pool water is always and forever becoming nearly instantly recontaminated. Due pool UV systems only working for a short time on a very small portion of the water, as it "passes by", they are ineffective as a sole source. For a UV system to effectively keep up, the entire volume of the pool would need to be treated at once, all the time. Chemical sanitation is used in pools because all of the water is always sanitized, at all times. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:52:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably cost less than you'll spend in chemicals in a year or so. https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.ecwid.com/images/17318839/1262742336.jpg HA! Don't get me wrong, we install a lot of saltwater chlorine generation systems, but we never claim to save the customer any money by doing so. That cell retails for close to a grand and that's only if you already have a pool controller to plug it into. Most heavy pool users in Texas will only use a few hundred in chems each year. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:52:29 PM EDT
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Shock the pool when we open, add salt, clean out leaves and vac....
Swim Vac occasionally Close pool at the end of the season. Saltwater is the way to go Tho now that I open my big mouth salt will go up (like everything else) lol |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:57:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I found Costco has/had good prices. Until next time When? Yesterday I saw them for $189.99. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 3:59:59 PM EDT
[#42]
There was a thread a week or so ago about one of the chemical plants that makes chlorine tablets having a fire.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Breaking-huge-chemical-plant-fire-in-New-Jersey-/5-2522272/ |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:06:41 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its still only a about 3 bucks ish a gallon here Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Have you priced bleach lately? Its still only a about 3 bucks ish a gallon here |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have 125 lbs of tabs that I bought before prices got stupid. Might have to neckbeard some of them when the weather gets nice. I still have a 7.5 gallon bucket I got just before it went up. About 50 or so pounds I’d guess. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:16:07 PM EDT
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I try to stick with the liquid and granulated stuff for the bulk of my chlorine additions.
The tablets have too much CYA in them and it builds up in the water over time, and will eventually put you in free chlorine lock. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:16:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before Leeloo Dallas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They will sanitize the effluent from a 15,000 gallon per day shit plant. Tell me it won't sanitize a swimming pool! Not to mention the shit plant is one-pass, the swimming pool is multi-pass. In before Leeloo Dallas. Open VS closed loop system. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:23:24 PM EDT
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What's really weird is that a couple of years ago a lot of the chlorine tablets and bags of powder ended up getting put on super low clearance prices. I ended up with half a dozen sealed 5gal buckets with 1 pound 73% calcium hypochlorite bags in them. I doubt I'll ever have to buy bleach again.
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:28:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's really weird is that a couple of years ago a lot of the chlorine tablets and bags of powder ended up getting put on super low clearance prices. I ended up with half a dozen sealed 5gal buckets with 1 pound 73% calcium hypochlorite bags in them. I doubt I'll ever have to buy bleach again. I don't know if this means that they had become useless or not, but I ended up tossing them in the trash and just starting them off with known good chlorine. I hate the pucks anyway because they nearly all have CYA in them. Which, the only way to get out of the water is water changes of the pool. If you use pucks forever and don't change enough water, you will eventually end with a green swamp because the CYA level will demand more chlorine than is reasonably possible. This is among the top few reasons people eventully give up and call a "pool guy" to come fix their unusable swamp. Then the pool guy finds the CYA through the roof from years of pucks. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:29:51 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a thread a week or so ago about one of the chemical plants that makes chlorine tablets having a fire. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Breaking-huge-chemical-plant-fire-in-New-Jersey-/5-2522272/ Wasn't there a fire at another before that in late 2020 or winter of 2021? New orleans or a plant in the south somewhere? |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 4:32:00 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have one on my pool, they work but you still need chlorine (albeit) less. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: they make a special system for pools My uncle has one...it's a UV/Ozone set up, kills every damn thing in the water and makes the water crystal clear...no chemicals to fuck with and it just works. I have one on my pool, they work but you still need chlorine (albeit) less. hmmmm....I'll have to ask him, because I remember him saying what he bought was super expensive because he absoloutely didn't want to have to dick with the chlorine ever |
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