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Posted: 12/12/2017 12:56:28 AM EDT
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As the other post mentioned, this is allodial title. And as the above post mentions, NV offered it relatively recently, but stopped issuing allodial titles as of June 13, 2005.
NRS 361-900 on allodial title. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 1:20:16 AM EDT
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The Borough that we live in here in Alaska, does have property tax, but being over 65, the first $210,000 of property value is not taxed! There for, we pay no property taxes. To top that off, if your vehicle is over 9 years old, it could be exempt from taxes as well. While those that live off the grid, may have some challenges, they can be over came. While we are not off the grid, we do grow our own veggies.
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Posted: 12/12/2017 2:03:48 AM EDT
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The Borough that we live in here in Alaska, does have property tax, but being over 65, the first $210,000 of property value is not taxed! There for, we pay no property taxes. To top that off, if your vehicle is over 9 years old, it could be exempt from taxes as well. While those that live off the grid, may have some challenges, they can be over came. While we are not off the grid, we do grow our own veggies. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 2:10:47 AM EDT
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Your masters say no.
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Posted: 12/12/2017 2:13:32 AM EDT
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Be a permanently and totally disabled veteran in my AO. They are exempt from property tax on their homes. If you see a disabled veteran license plate, they are exempt.
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Posted: 12/12/2017 2:44:26 AM EDT
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Property tax shouldn't exist. It should at most be a one time tax paid upon purchase. That's it. Pretty sure that is why. Which is kinda good. Drives people out of land they don't plan to use it. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 5:44:47 AM EDT
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He asked how to own property and not pay taxes on it, not how to avoid being the main course at the next ATF BBQ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Be a church |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 5:50:33 AM EDT
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Seems like you should be able to find some land where the money that the government pays you not to grow crops more than offsets the amount that the government charges you to own the land.
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Posted: 12/12/2017 5:55:02 AM EDT
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Most rural land in the South has very low taxes. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 5:58:25 AM EDT
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Property tax shouldn't exist. It should at most be a one time tax paid upon purchase. That's it. Folks..... The Revolution was a mistake.... We had it better off under the fucking king. You have the illusion of property ownership.... Nothing more. How can you claim ownership to something that can be taken from you at anytime should your finical circumstances change for the worse? |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 6:32:30 AM EDT
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Not a bad idea but from what I've seen on TV it's hard to live off the land there with the harsh winters and short growing season. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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•Alaska is the largest of the United States; however, for all its vastness only a small portion of the land mass is subject to a property tax. •There are approximately 321 communities in Alaska, many of which still remain unincorporated. •There are 164 incorporated municipalities (local governments), 19 of which are incorporated into boroughs (boroughs are a rough equivalent to counties) and the remainder are incorporated as cities. •Of the 19 boroughs in Alaska, only 15 levy a property tax. •Only 9 cities located outside of boroughs levy a property tax; therefore, only 24 municipalities in Alaska (either cities or boroughs) levy a property tax. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 10:14:40 AM EDT
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But if it was like that, people would hog land, even if they never use it. Pretty sure that is why. Which is kinda good. Drives people out of land they don't plan to use it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Property tax shouldn't exist. It should at most be a one time tax paid upon purchase. That's it. Pretty sure that is why. Which is kinda good. Drives people out of land they don't plan to use it. This is as bad as the coworker that keeps trying to convince me to take half my land and build apartments on it. It's not his land, and he has never even seen it, but he feels compelled to repeatedly explain to me how I would be so much better off if I would build those apartments and have all that income from the rent. Doesn't matter that it's not zoned for it. Doesn't matter that a planned development closer to town got shot down by a group of neighbors that got together and protested at the vote for the zoning change, pointing out that the zoning change violated an existing plan that the local government had for developments in the area. Doesn't matter that getting the permits would require a fortune to be spent on improving access to the land. Doesn't matter that my rifle range is on the side of the property that he wants me to develop... All that matters, to him, is what he thinks I should be doing with my land. If you think somebody isn't doing anything with some land, and you don't like it, take your money and make them an offer for the land. Saying that the government should drive them out of the land, because they don't plan to use it, is pure communism. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 10:16:10 AM EDT
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Plant pine trees.
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Posted: 12/12/2017 10:49:41 AM EDT
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I seem to recall a couple places in either Georgia or South Carolina that we’re tax free. The catch was you had to inherit it and once you sold it, it would be taxable from there on out. So to answer your question, yes but if you could get it you would already know about it, so no tax free for you. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 11:17:03 AM EDT
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Thanks for starting this thread, OP.
Yearly property taxes are rent from the Government...in my case, I subcontract the property that I'm renting from Government to the folks who rent from me. It's tough when a huge chunk of your yearly profit goes to taxes and the rest goes to surprise maintenance on the property itself. Money that you could be saving for those improvements/maintenances goes to the County so that it can pay it's agents to give you hell/fines, work incompetently/negligently and educate children about the dangers of white privilege. Meanwhile, property that has been multi-generationally "owned" becomes too expensive and difficult for the person to keep. Soon I'll be having to let go of my great-great grandparents' house, one of the first houses built in that County for pretty much that reason. It's either that or the County will kick in the door and take it from me so that it can be sold at auction to some third world immigrant motherfucker with dreams of building a slumpire and importing more of his non-english speaking relatives to slowly repopulate the town. I've pretty much decided that the next property I invest in for legacy purposes and to hand down to my kid will be as close to tax exempt as fucking possible. Either by modifying the circumstances of the property to legally render it that way or buying property within a location where taxes are less than a paycheck. Fuck the clowns who voted for ridiculous taxes and empowered petty tyrants to fleece citizens- it's a joke to call anything of theirs "your" property. Seriously. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 11:29:53 AM EDT
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We own a 60 acre hunting property with a well, enclosed carport, shed, and a trailer from the 1970s.
It’s on PAs “clean and green” program as forest reserve. I think are total taxes this year were a little over $300 and liability insurance is like a $25 rider on our home policy. About as tax free as I can come up with. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 11:50:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But if it was like that, people would hog land, even if they never use it. Pretty sure that is why. Which is kinda good. Drives people out of land they don't plan to use it. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 11:56:06 AM EDT
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Research the terms allodial and fee simple. I was interested in this once upon a time, and I think I recall reading that Nevada allowed land to be held in allodial, provided expected taxes were paid up front.
I moved to an area with low property taxes. For $1700 a year I think I get a bargain. A good portion is used for school for my four kids, the county plows my road a few times a day in the winter and redoes the chip and tar every 5 or so, low crime rate so not much need for sheriff services, volunteer FD but I have insurance ... If I had vacant land taxes would only be a couple hundred dollars a year. |
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Posted: 12/12/2017 11:56:48 AM EDT
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OP, I think the cheapest way possible to live would be to buy some land with some sort of tax cuts like some of the other posters have mentions, put a house on wheels(mini house or something) to live in, solar power, a well, wood stove, etc.
Essentially like off grid living. You wouldn't have to pay property tax on the house on wheels and only have to pay tax on the bare land. Still don't really own anything tho just cheapest option 
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Posted: 12/12/2017 11:57:55 AM EDT
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Throw a "few" "cattle" in it and boom, cheap taxes.
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Posted: 12/14/2017 1:47:38 AM EDT
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OP, I think the cheapest way possible to live would be to buy some land with some sort of tax cuts like some of the other posters have mentions, put a house on wheels(mini house or something) to live in, solar power, a well, wood stove, etc. Essentially like off grid living. You wouldn't have to pay property tax on the house on wheels and only have to pay tax on the bare land. Still don't really own anything tho just cheapest option Basically what I've learned in this thread is that there is no way to *truly* own property in the US with very, very few exceptions (maybe only 1, areas in Alaska?). Without the ability to own property it would seem we can't really own anything. Even a motor home requires taxes paid if you don't have property to park it on and have to travel public roads. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 1:49:52 AM EDT
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We own a 60 acre hunting property with a well, enclosed carport, shed, and a trailer from the 1970s. It’s on PAs “clean and green” program as forest reserve. I think are total taxes this year were a little over $300 and liability insurance is like a $25 rider on our home policy. About as tax free as I can come up with. 
Are there limitations on living on the property? |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 2:07:27 AM EDT
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Antarctica does not have property tax.
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Posted: 12/14/2017 2:12:31 AM EDT
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Seems like you should be able to find some land where the money that the government pays you not to grow crops more than offsets the amount that the government charges you to own the land. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 2:56:23 AM EDT
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There are no property taxes in a very rural parts of Alaska, but the cities have some of the highest property taxes in the country.
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Posted: 12/14/2017 3:33:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:There's also some states which have an exemption for 'classified wildlife area' acreage. Last I dealt with it the land had to be fenced and planted in wildlife food plots and timber...but it was closed to all hunting or timber harvest. I ran into that a lot buying coal rights in southern Indiana. Wildlife Management Tax Exemption We're in year 8 of claiming it on our family place in the Hill Country. We've primarily satisfied the requirements through brush piles, birdhouses & feeders, and a pasture full of sunflower - no joke. The hog fencing and native grass restoration effort qualify, but were not required and were added after the exemption was granted - the former was undertaken as a necessity to save the sprinkler system and its well, the latter is my Dad's post-retirement pet project. We receive the same tax break an ag exemption would provide, and there was no "waiting period", other than the time it took to get everything approved. We hunt and fish on it extensively. We have added and renovated buildings freely. It is not, however, a "primary residence", and it did have an existing ag exemption. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 3:54:12 AM EDT
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This, i dont think there is a place in America where you can actually own land, car, boat, rv, etc. You will always pay the .gov rent for big ticket items. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Buy in another country. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 7:41:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is as close to free as I think you can get without being free
Are there limitations on living on the property? |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 12:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This, or some other tax-exempt entity. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 1:47:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't moorage extremely expensive. Boats also require a huge amount of money for maintenance. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 1:50:28 PM EDT
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Yet some states tax non-producing minerals. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 2:00:21 PM EDT
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Is there any way to own property indefinitely i.e. without paying property taxes? As far as I know, if I buy a chunk a property today with cash, I have to pay taxes on it or the government will seize it/sell it. How can I buy land that I can actually *own* without any further costs? I was thinking about this as a place to go in case of job loss/going broke for whatever reason, etc. It doesn't work if I still have to pay a large sum of money every year. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 2:02:26 PM EDT
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Start your own Indian tribe and the gobberment pays you.  In the Spirit of Lazy Horse!! 
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Posted: 12/14/2017 2:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But if it was like that, people would hog land, even if they never use it. Pretty sure that is why. Which is kinda good. Drives people out of land they don't plan to use it. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 2:29:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The green subsidy idea is interesting. Motor home or mini house isn't bad either but would require maintenance. Basically what I've learned in this thread is that there is no way to *truly* own property in the US with very, very few exceptions (maybe only 1, areas in Alaska?). Without the ability to own property it would seem we can't really own anything. Even a motor home requires taxes paid if you don't have property to park it on and have to travel public roads. Here in Louisiana, I routinely pay just $3.26 per acre. I setup a yearly auto draft from my LLC to pay those taxes + an extra amount to cover any increases. I strongly encourage you to research rural property taxes on land in the county you want to buy land. You will soon discover that the rural camps don't pay much at all in taxes. Finally, the "Goverment Seizure Of Land For Non-Payment Of Taxes" is actually an interesting loop hole that benefits you the citizen in the end. Simply look up adjudicated property or tax liens in the county you want to buy and they will be more than willing to arrange for you to buy their seized property! I have done this myself and now have several acres of prime Louisiana forestland that comes with its own herd of wild hogs for me to target practice and BBQ. P.S. PM me with the counties you want to buy in and I'll dig up more details about adjudicated property that might be available. My motivation is to bring the land back to us the people. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 7:04:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has anyone ever been taxed for having their own underground secret base yet? Preferably near a volcano with Midget friends and family. Supposedly, the guy managed to get it built without the county noticing how extensive the basement was, so he only gets taxed as if it was a small, 2 bedroom - 1 bath house with a normal, unfinished basement. |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 10:20:45 PM EDT
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we converted about 7 of our acres into 'agriculture' usage..
tax bill dropped from $400/yr to $5/yr brian |
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Posted: 12/14/2017 11:11:21 PM EDT
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Some Florida properties around phosphate mines own the land, but not the mineral rights. If I owned a 100 acres which had full mineral title when I bought it, I could sell all of or part of the minerals while retaining the unsold balance of the minerals and the entirety of the surface...and vice versa. |
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