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2/8/2021 9:19:51 PM EDT
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Put some Adirondack chairs out front and people will come knocking thinking it's a Cracker Barrel.
2/8/2021 9:24:47 PM EDT
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I have the perfect spot for a 50x40.  I'd like to get a very tall one so I can have an Class A pullthrough garage on one side and a second floor on the other (metal mezzanine?l.  Small apartment, dust room, wet room, reloading room, etc.  Would love to have a vault room in the corner if it could be built around it.

Mike
2/8/2021 9:25:11 PM EDT
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22 ft. deep so it holds my truck.  Has 220 and a gas heater and some attic storage.  2 motorcycles and some bicycles and firewood right now.
2/8/2021 9:26:26 PM EDT
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When you run line for power don't forget phone and internet connectivity. May also want to consider running some CAT5 inside so you can spread out some access points and get great wireless coverage inside as well.
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I'm going to have to run cat5 cable out to my shop to get the TV working.
2/8/2021 9:33:56 PM EDT
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Very Nice

Would love to have a shop with a lathe, mill and wood shop with all my reloading equipment.

Hope it turns out like you like.
2/8/2021 9:35:28 PM EDT
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Very Nice

Would love to have a shop with a lathe, mill and wood shop with all my reloading equipment.

Hope it turns out like you like.
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Me too!
2/8/2021 9:35:30 PM EDT
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so how much are these 30x40 steel buildings, complete?
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Price has alot to do with the building manufacturer.  
I put up Commercial metal buildings for a living .
 Just finished up a 100' x 150' with 25' eves , just under $500k our part  . Total build price ( our part , electric,  water , sewer , gas , permits , OH Doors ) was right at $1million . Job before that was a 150' x 320' with 30' eves .

 Biggest metal building I've done the main roof covers 14 acres , the office another 500,000 sq ft , and the paint room is 300,000 sq ft .

 When I wanted to build my shop 30x40 ( enclosed )  with 16' eves with a 12x40 lean too open on 2 sides ,  11 years ago  I asked the office to get a price for the building . It was 31K unloaded . No permits , engineering,  insulation,  concrete ect . That was just the building price ! I figured using all of our suppliers and paying my guys it would cost me about 80k . Electric probably another 10-15k .

Needless to say I built a Pole building for 1/3rd the price .

Should be a nice shop OP . Congrats
2/8/2021 9:38:26 PM EDT
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Those will have to come later. I'm doing this whole project for 52k and paying cash.
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Woah! That’s less than I thought! Will it have insulation and heat?
2/8/2021 9:39:45 PM EDT
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How much if you don’t mind me asking?
2/8/2021 9:41:18 PM EDT
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Nice. I had to settle for 14x40.

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I hear ya. I'm pouring the slab for my 18'x35' tomorrow. It's not exactly the shop I "always dreamed of", but I'll enjoy it. Contents will be one car & some tools.
2/8/2021 9:45:41 PM EDT
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Woah! That’s less than I thought! Will it have insulation and heat?
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Price includes insulation. I have a pellet stove i plan on using for heat.
2/8/2021 9:51:42 PM EDT
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Nice
2/8/2021 10:00:23 PM EDT
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Yes pics will be great OP.
2/8/2021 10:06:30 PM EDT
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When you say steel, do you mean red iron or metal tube frame?

I have been working thru pricing for a shop myself. So far, every option has been vastly more expensive than tube frame.
I am very worried about moisture problems that have been reported.

What is the best way to mitigate this? Insulation, ventilation, both, or something else?

If I had help, I could build my own, but I can no longer tackle that.

I am looking at 30x40 12’ tall.
The extra 3’ height to get a 14’ door to get a 5th wheel camper in is too much, so I will get a separate RV shed
2/8/2021 10:19:16 PM EDT
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When you say steel, do you mean red iron or metal tube frame?

I have been working thru pricing for a shop myself. So far, every option has been vastly more expensive than tube frame.
I am very worried about moisture problems that have been reported.

What is the best way to mitigate this? Insulation, ventilation, both, or something else?

If I had help, I could build my own, but I can no longer tackle that.

I am looking at 30x40 12’ tall.
The extra 3’ height to get a 14’ door to get a 5th wheel camper in is too much, so I will get a separate RV shed
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@lizARdman15

I'm going red iron. I don't think tube frame is appropriate for a 40lb ground and 28lb roof snow loads. Search for Heritage Metal Buildings out of Little Rock, AR. They typically have the best prices for the money. I almost went with them but Metal Building Outlet in Littleton, CO gave me a 1.5' feet more eave height for just a tiny bit more money. I was told that steel prices supposedly  jumped 12% right after I locked in my price on Jan 6th.
2/8/2021 10:36:34 PM EDT
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I've driven by that.
2/8/2021 10:37:15 PM EDT
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Nice; congrats!
2/8/2021 10:54:14 PM EDT
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I've driven by that.
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I've driven by that.



I'll put a varminter t-shirt on the front door next time your come through.

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2/8/2021 11:03:04 PM EDT
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I would run conduit and pull fiber for your network connection. There are places online that make preterminated runs that are ready to be pulled in any length you want. Id avoid cat5 or any copper so you dont spread a problem if one or the other building gets hit by lightning. Im planning my shop for next year now.
You can get autocad mobile for $5/month to draw what you want for layout and then save it as pdf and cancel your subscription.
2/8/2021 11:14:13 PM EDT
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Are you going to have ac?

I wish I’d have put doors on both ends of mine for air flow. I’m in the process of an exhaust fan to help with my minor welding projects and ventilation.
I have one roll up and two walk doors on adjacent sides, if I’d have put on opposite sides it would’ve helped dramatically.

2/9/2021 7:30:49 AM EDT
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I looked into red iron, but installation and concrete was way more than the building cost.

Right now, frame is most expensive
Then Pole barn
Then Red iron
Tube frame is half the price of the least expensive

I don’t have to worry about snow load or frost lines and they are built to wind codes here in SC.
2/9/2021 8:02:39 AM EDT
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This looks identical to what I'm building also likely starting in March! Only difference is I won't have the windows.
2/9/2021 8:18:42 AM EDT
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I was going to do a 40x60 at the back of my lot.
City shot down that idea (accessory buildings can only be 1/2 the square footage of the primary dwelling).

Wound up with 1,500 sqft of attached garage instead (at almost twice the price of a steel building).
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That's why you don't live in the city ....
2/9/2021 8:25:48 AM EDT
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My neighbor had a crew putting up his new metal building shop yesterday, I hate the guy.

That said, I'll just live with what I have...  and build stuff as I go.  Like the small animal shed we may do pole barn style, because DIY.
2/9/2021 8:50:31 AM EDT
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Thats very similar to what I have...
2/9/2021 9:08:23 AM EDT
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Congratulations. We have a quote to build a 30'x40' with 10' ceilings (to the bottom of the trusses) and a 10'x40' side shed to park the tractor and disc, etc underneath.

But we haven't pulled the trigger just yet.

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10' seems a little low, why not 12 or more?
2/9/2021 11:48:22 AM EDT
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My 40x40 with 15.5' eaves and 20' at the peak including roll up doors, insulation, stamped plans and freight came in at $27,083.45
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That's not as bad as I thought it would be.  Very nice!
2/9/2021 12:39:08 PM EDT
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Awesome! The house we bought had 40x40 with one 8' door, a carport on the side, and a attached 12' x 12' office. It's not set up how I would have done it but it is great to have. If it gets cold where you live everyone thinking about building should consider radiant heat in the floor with a wood fired boiler.
2/9/2021 12:44:21 PM EDT
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No awnings or overhangs?

Nevermind, saw your reply.

Kudos for going steel over pole barn. Steel is much much more better
2/9/2021 1:07:23 PM EDT
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Don't forget your 15 mil vapor barrier under the concrete.  You don't want any moisture coming up through the slab.
2/9/2021 1:08:23 PM EDT
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You will probably want a door on each side of your building. It is aggravating not having a way into your building and having to walk all the way around.
2/9/2021 1:50:45 PM EDT
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2/9/2021 5:29:33 PM EDT
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That's not as bad as I thought it would be.  Very nice!
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My 40x40 with 15.5' eaves and 20' at the peak including roll up doors, insulation, stamped plans and freight came in at $27,083.45


That's not as bad as I thought it would be.  Very nice!

@DamascusKnifemaker

What company did you go through for that kit? Sounds like a great deal!
2/10/2021 12:21:12 AM EDT
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What company did you go through for that kit? Sounds like a great deal!
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2/10/2021 12:54:32 AM EDT
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Price has alot to do with the building manufacturer.  
I put up Commercial metal buildings for a living .
 Just finished up a 100' x 150' with 25' eves , just under $500k our part  . Total build price ( our part , electric,  water , sewer , gas , permits , OH Doors ) was right at $1million . Job before that was a 150' x 320' with 30' eves .

 Biggest metal building I've done the main roof covers 14 acres , the office another 500,000 sq ft , and the paint room is 300,000 sq ft .

 When I wanted to build my shop 30x40 ( enclosed )  with 16' eves with a 12x40 lean too open on 2 sides ,  11 years ago  I asked the office to get a price for the building . It was 31K unloaded . No permits , engineering,  insulation,  concrete ect . That was just the building price ! I figured using all of our suppliers and paying my guys it would cost me about 80k . Electric probably another 10-15k .

Needless to say I built a Pole building for 1/3rd the price .

Should be a nice shop OP . Congrats
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Price has alot to do with the building manufacturer.  
I put up Commercial metal buildings for a living .
 Just finished up a 100' x 150' with 25' eves , just under $500k our part  . Total build price ( our part , electric,  water , sewer , gas , permits , OH Doors ) was right at $1million . Job before that was a 150' x 320' with 30' eves .

 Biggest metal building I've done the main roof covers 14 acres , the office another 500,000 sq ft , and the paint room is 300,000 sq ft .

 When I wanted to build my shop 30x40 ( enclosed )  with 16' eves with a 12x40 lean too open on 2 sides ,  11 years ago  I asked the office to get a price for the building . It was 31K unloaded . No permits , engineering,  insulation,  concrete ect . That was just the building price ! I figured using all of our suppliers and paying my guys it would cost me about 80k . Electric probably another 10-15k .

Needless to say I built a Pole building for 1/3rd the price .

Should be a nice shop OP . Congrats


How much for a 1/2 acre with some clear roof panel areas in strategic locations?
About to say screw the shop and just build a dome over my property.
2/10/2021 1:00:36 AM EDT
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Always been a dream of mine. Don’t forget the loft with sleeping quarters and shower. You’ll never go back in your house ever again.
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This-^

Resale value, think office space, kitchen, 3/4 bath.
2/10/2021 1:10:24 AM EDT
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This is relevant to my interests.
2/10/2021 1:13:19 AM EDT
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Right now I'm into it about $28,000.
I figure another $4,000 for the driveway, RV pad and gravel roadway I'm putting in.

2/10/2021 1:14:30 AM EDT
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I'm really happy with my 40x60 metal building, but there's one thing I regret, and that is not making all the doors 14-ft high. I'm limited for my motorhome to only coming in the end door because I put 12 foot doors on the front and it's just about a foot too short. it would have been very convenient at times or as an alternative layout to be able to bring the motor home in from the front.

2/10/2021 1:46:21 AM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/NE1BwZE.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/odQCsTI.jpg

Just put the 2 insulated garage doors in this today. 12'x12' at each end. It's a 40x40 fourteen foot at the side wall. Red iron. Sitting on 20 acres we bought last November.
as soon as the shop is finished we're going to start on the house.
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Need some educating on this, as I've been dreaming about having one of these built myself. As seen in the photos I've provided above, could somebody tell me why some folks prefer to have a taller building with alot of ceiling/roof space above the 7' garage door? A lot of these buildings also don't have a loft or attic space in them, so why are so many of these building constructed with a lot of overhead space? Isn't that just a lot more air to have to heat or air condition?
2/10/2021 1:34:26 PM EDT
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Need some educating on this, as I've been dreaming about having one of these built myself. As seen in the photos I've provided above, could somebody tell me why some folks prefer to have a taller building with alot of ceiling/roof space above the 7' garage door? A lot of these buildings also don't have a loft or attic space in them, so why are so many of these building constructed with a lot of overhead space? Isn't that just a lot more air to have to heat or air condition?
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Lift?
2/10/2021 5:35:57 PM EDT
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Need some educating on this, as I've been dreaming about having one of these built myself. As seen in the photos I've provided above, could somebody tell me why some folks prefer to have a taller building with alot of ceiling/roof space above the 7' garage door? A lot of these buildings also don't have a loft or attic space in them, so why are so many of these building constructed with a lot of overhead space? Isn't that just a lot more air to have to heat or air condition?
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my 40x60 is neither air conditioner nor heated, heat rises and I have a big Gable fan on one end. It is insulated, which in Florida is more important than you would think. To keep the sun from turning it into a toaster oven. But I do have two insulated and air conditioned rooms and a shop that has no ceiling but is still air conditioned, it works because cold air sinks and I only have the air conditioning on when I'm actually in there working. on top of the two air conditioned rooms, which is about 40 by 40, I have a loft which is great for storage of things you don't need quite as often and don't need air conditioning to keep them from going bad.

I need the entire building tall enough to put a motorhome in, which is 12 ft 6 in tall, and still have some clearance on the 14 ft garage door.
2/10/2021 5:49:02 PM EDT
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Need some educating on this, as I've been dreaming about having one of these built myself. As seen in the photos I've provided above, could somebody tell me why some folks prefer to have a taller building with alot of ceiling/roof space above the 7' garage door? A lot of these buildings also don't have a loft or attic space in them, so why are so many of these building constructed with a lot of overhead space? Isn't that just a lot more air to have to heat or air condition?
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Depends.
-Lift
-Mezzanine
-Storage above a room
-Cooler without A/C

A lot of people in warmer climates don't heat or cool their shop (personal shop space). If they do have some sort of heating or cooling, it's in a room built within the shop.
My neighbor's 30x30 shop is 16-18ft high with 2 12x12' roll up doors on opposite sides. In the heat of the summer, the temperature is manageable. A little wind is pretty cooling with both doors rolled up. Also a large shop fan for the less windy days.


2/10/2021 6:10:04 PM EDT
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He said he is pouring concrete so not a pole foundation
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pole barn or steel building?

I'm looking to do a 50x50 or 40x50v with a lean to porch.  I'll do all the sitework and construe myself.

He said he is pouring concrete so not a pole foundation
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Mike

I have (2) 30x40 pole barns. Both have concrete floors.
2/10/2021 7:32:25 PM EDT
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I built this 36'x100'X16' pole building 2 years ago for right at about $60k total.  That included the pad & prep (400+ ton of fill), lumber and metal materials, 6" of 4000psi concrete, 3 14x14 insulated roll up doors, 2 man doors, 5.5" gutters and 1' overhangs all around and labor.  I've since added electric throughout and (8) 27,000 lumen LED hi bay lights for a couple K more. This summer I'll be building a 15x20 insulated room in it with heat.









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Need some educating on this, as I've been dreaming about having one of these built myself. As seen in the photos I've provided above, could somebody tell me why some folks prefer to have a taller building with alot of ceiling/roof space above the 7' garage door? A lot of these buildings also don't have a loft or attic space in them, so why are so many of these building constructed with a lot of overhead space? Isn't that just a lot more air to have to heat or air condition?
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For me, I store hay and large equipment in mine and when we bring in the high on wagons they can be over 12' tall plus we stack it as high as 12' inside too.  Most of mine is neither heated or cooled and additionally, it really doesn't cost much more to build higher as opposed to larger footprint.
2/10/2021 8:30:36 PM EDT
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Who is doing the pad? Pearson?
2/10/2021 8:34:16 PM EDT
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Need some educating on this, as I've been dreaming about having one of these built myself. As seen in the photos I've provided above, could somebody tell me why some folks prefer to have a taller building with alot of ceiling/roof space above the 7' garage door? A lot of these buildings also don't have a loft or attic space in them, so why are so many of these building constructed with a lot of overhead space? Isn't that just a lot more air to have to heat or air condition?
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I went with a higher building because I plan on having a lift installed and building interior rooms for forging and grinding. I'm planning on the ceiling of the interior rooms being the floor of a mezzanine used for storage. I live in a climate where I can run a swamp cooler in the summer.
2/10/2021 8:36:07 PM EDT
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No Carlson and son are doing the pad.
2/20/2021 12:01:46 AM EDT
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I have (2) 30x40 pole barns. Both have concrete floors.
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Why anchor the building on poles and not the slab?

Mike

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