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Posted: 10/31/2015 1:55:19 PM EDT
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Title says it all. What can do you guys recommend for an kac 11.5" gun? I've been very pleased with my Socom762RC. Sound level, tone are good. Great materials, good qd lock up and repeatable, small poi shift. Have a form 4 in on a mystic x and got to fondle it Thursday. Looks pretty slick, but it's screw on, not qd. IMO, a qd 30 cal can is the ideal first can. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 1:55:28 PM EDT
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I have been thinking about form 1ing a maglite into a can for my sbr. The only thing preventing me from it in the past was that I have no machining/lathe capability. But now, its a screw together procedure.
Mostly so if I blow it apart or wear it out, I'm not out a grand...  I've heard those shorter barrel 556 guns can be hard on cans.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:05:30 PM EDT
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I'm happy with the M4-2000 on my 11.5. If I could do it over, I'd probably go with a .30 titanium can.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:13:55 PM EDT
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:16:30 PM EDT
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uh, knights?
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:24:17 PM EDT
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This. It's stupid easy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. and can be done by most with very little tools. fun project to boot |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:28:59 PM EDT
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Saker or Sandman would be my choice.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:29:24 PM EDT
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Silencer Co or Surefire would be a nice fit.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:44:43 PM EDT
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Silencerco omega.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:53:29 PM EDT
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Specwar 556 K.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:55:04 PM EDT
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Specwar 556 K. Yep |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:57:23 PM EDT
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Surefire SOCOM300 SPS
Thats the one I want , lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:58:15 PM EDT
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Lots of replies with what but not why.
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Posted: 10/31/2015 2:59:24 PM EDT
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Surefire SOCOM300 SPS Thats the one I want , lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I gave up on it. When LaRue can manufacter faster than you, you're doing it wrong. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:01:39 PM EDT
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:04:42 PM EDT
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Close, but freeze plug blast baffles aren't going to last, especially on a 11.5" rifle. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:06:18 PM EDT
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? I'm not sure anyone has tested form 1 cans next to commercial other than by ear. My form 1 9mm can sounds really close to the AAC evo 9I have. But again, just by ear without any sophisticated meters to actually measure them i can't say for sure how they perform. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:07:28 PM EDT
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Maybe not exactly the same, but given that it's STILL going to be loud (I.e. not hearing safe) even with a suppressor, the practical difference seems negligible. I've shot my $850 AAC 762SDN6 next to my homebuilt $100 suppressor next to each other (both on 14.5" ARs), and I really couldn't tell a differnce, and neither could the two other people I was shooting with that day. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:08:34 PM EDT
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Close, but freeze plug blast baffles aren't going to last, especially on a 11.5" rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Close, but freeze plug blast baffles aren't going to last, especially on a 11.5" rifle. Good thing freeze plugs cost about $1 and can easily be replaced in a Form 1 can. 
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:09:14 PM EDT
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Look at Liberty Suppressors
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:09:37 PM EDT
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... If budget is a part of the equation, look toward YHM Phantom, QD
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:15:48 PM EDT
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Maybe not exactly the same, but given that it's STILL going to be loud (I.e. not hearing safe) even with a suppressor, the practical difference seems negligible. I've shot my $850 AAC 762SDN6 next to my homebuilt $100 suppressor next to each other (both on 14.5" ARs), and I really couldn't tell a differnce, and neither could the two other people I was shooting with that day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Maybe not exactly the same, but given that it's STILL going to be loud (I.e. not hearing safe) even with a suppressor, the practical difference seems negligible. I've shot my $850 AAC 762SDN6 next to my homebuilt $100 suppressor next to each other (both on 14.5" ARs), and I really couldn't tell a differnce, and neither could the two other people I was shooting with that day. Pretty cool. Wish I had the skills and access to a machine shop. 
Some of the work in that suppressor build thread is very impressive. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:16:08 PM EDT
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If you have larger rifle calibers, always, ALWAYS get a 308 can for rifle suppression first. You can always suppress the 556 w it, trade off being weight/size. Likewise for pistols, get a 45 first.
Diversify after that. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:18:38 PM EDT
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Good thing freeze plugs cost about $1 and can easily be replaced in a Form 1 can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Close, but freeze plug blast baffles aren't going to last, especially on a 11.5" rifle. Good thing freeze plugs cost about $1 and can easily be replaced in a Form 1 can. Not legally unless you have the license or pay another $200.... |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:18:45 PM EDT
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Good thing freeze plugs cost about $1 and can easily be replaced in a Form 1 can. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Close, but freeze plug blast baffles aren't going to last, especially on a 11.5" rifle. Good thing freeze plugs cost about $1 and can easily be replaced in a Form 1 can. Better be damn sure the new baffle is identical to the replaced part. Unlikely Batfe would ever know, but the issue remains. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:19:42 PM EDT
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Not legally unless you have the license or pay another $200.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Close, but freeze plug blast baffles aren't going to last, especially on a 11.5" rifle. Good thing freeze plugs cost about $1 and can easily be replaced in a Form 1 can. Not legally unless you have the license or pay another $200.... Is there a ruling on that? I thought it was still a gray area. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:21:31 PM EDT
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Not legally unless you have the license or pay another $200.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Close, but freeze plug blast baffles aren't going to last, especially on a 11.5" rifle. Good thing freeze plugs cost about $1 and can easily be replaced in a Form 1 can. Not legally unless you have the license or pay another $200.... I believe that's myth and bullshit. I am the manufacturer and I can repair my product if I need to. Please provide some proof of your claim. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:21:39 PM EDT
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Pretty cool. Wish I had the skills and access to a machine shop.
Some of the work in that suppressor build thread is very impressive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Maybe not exactly the same, but given that it's STILL going to be loud (I.e. not hearing safe) even with a suppressor, the practical difference seems negligible. I've shot my $850 AAC 762SDN6 next to my homebuilt $100 suppressor next to each other (both on 14.5" ARs), and I really couldn't tell a differnce, and neither could the two other people I was shooting with that day. Pretty cool. Wish I had the skills and access to a machine shop.
Some of the work in that suppressor build thread is very impressive. The skills and tools needed are minimal. Definitely don't need a machine shop. Start with a solvent trap, once the form 1 is approved drill a hole in the end cap. Then use freeze plugs for baffles.. you can form them with a cheap jig and a bench vise. Hand drill to drill the holes. Mine cost me about $230 (not including stamp since I'd be paying that for a commercial can also). Sound wise, without any metering device.. it sounds comparable to my brothers YHM Phantom that cost a lot more. I'm pretty happy with it. Works well enough and was a fun little project. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:23:37 PM EDT
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Is there a ruling on that? I thought it was still a gray area. It's a grey area that people on both sides of swear that their opinion is the law. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:25:00 PM EDT
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The skills and tools needed are minimal. Definitely don't need a machine shop. Start with a solvent trap, once the form 1 is approved drill a hole in the end cap. Then use freeze plugs for baffles.. you can form them with a cheap jig and a bench vise. Hand drill to drill the holes. Mine cost me about $230 (not including stamp since I'd be paying that for a commercial can also). Sound wise, without any metering device.. it sounds comparable to my brothers YHM Phantom that cost a lot more. I'm pretty happy with it. Works well enough and was a fun little project. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Save a few hundred and do a form 1 titanium build. Check out the suppressor forum for lots of build info. Sound suppression equal to the $$$$ counterparts? Maybe not exactly the same, but given that it's STILL going to be loud (I.e. not hearing safe) even with a suppressor, the practical difference seems negligible. I've shot my $850 AAC 762SDN6 next to my homebuilt $100 suppressor next to each other (both on 14.5" ARs), and I really couldn't tell a differnce, and neither could the two other people I was shooting with that day. Pretty cool. Wish I had the skills and access to a machine shop.
Some of the work in that suppressor build thread is very impressive. The skills and tools needed are minimal. Definitely don't need a machine shop. Start with a solvent trap, once the form 1 is approved drill a hole in the end cap. Then use freeze plugs for baffles.. you can form them with a cheap jig and a bench vise. Hand drill to drill the holes. Mine cost me about $230 (not including stamp since I'd be paying that for a commercial can also). Sound wise, without any metering device.. it sounds comparable to my brothers YHM Phantom that cost a lot more. I'm pretty happy with it. Works well enough and was a fun little project. Nice, I'm assuming they sell different sized tubes and plugs? I have an Omega, but I'd like a .22 and .45 can....just don't want to spend $1500+ on them. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:26:01 PM EDT
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Specwar 556 K. Yep 
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:27:26 PM EDT
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Nice, I'm assuming they sell different sized tubes and plugs? I have an Omega, but I'd like a .22 and .45 can....just don't want to spend $1500+ on them. Yep, SDTA has tubes and plugs in like 3 different sizes now. There are also machine shops that will make you a solvent trap to whatever specs you ask for. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:28:18 PM EDT
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It's a grey area that people on both sides of swear that their opinion is the law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is there a ruling on that? I thought it was still a gray area. It's a grey area that people on both sides of swear that their opinion is the law. That's what I thought. 'Maker' and 'manufacturer' are the same thing in every world except maybe BATFE's. It's the same kind of bs trap as constructive intent. Probably only ever an issue if they're already on your ass about something else. I would be wary of having freeze plugs laying around, but I'm the kind of wuss who didn't buy his sbr upper until the stamp came in and the lower was engraved. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:29:41 PM EDT
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If you want your rifle to still be kinda loud, but be able to use it to nail telephone poles into the ground get the kac
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:31:12 PM EDT
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I gave up on it. When LaRue can manufacter faster than you, you're doing it wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Surefire SOCOM300 SPS Thats the one I want , lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I gave up on it. When LaRue can manufacter faster than you, you're doing it wrong. What? Are they vaporware??? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:35:03 PM EDT
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What? Are they vaporware??? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Surefire SOCOM300 SPS Thats the one I want , lol Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I gave up on it. When LaRue can manufacter faster than you, you're doing it wrong. What? Are they vaporware??? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No, but they are filling .mil orders. Wait time quoted to me in early July was 'early 2016 we think' for a serial number. I'd still like to have one, but I'll wait till they are on shelves and re evaluate the market options then. Easy for me since I have the socom already. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 3:44:26 PM EDT
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Specwar 556 K. Yep Just curious, why is that funny? |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 4:53:48 PM EDT
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uh, knights? I like this idea looks wise. How does it perform against say the spec war k, or saker offerings in sound reduction? |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 4:59:37 PM EDT
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Specwar 556k or Saker 556K
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:00:29 PM EDT
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I like this idea looks wise. How does it perform against say the spec war k, or saker offerings in sound reduction? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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uh, knights? I like this idea looks wise. How does it perform against say the spec war k, or saker offerings in sound reduction? More expensive, harder to get, and louder. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:00:38 PM EDT
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Military Arms Channel has a 5.56 suppressor comparison on YouTube.
Go check it out. BTW, I just picked up my Specwar K last night. I'll take it to the range tomorrow. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:02:59 PM EDT
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I <3 my Halo can. I am considering buying another one, the newer TI one but I don't think it fits over vortex FH like this one. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:03:22 PM EDT
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Military Arms Channel has a 5.56 suppressor comparison on YouTube. Go check it out. BTW, I just picked up my Specwar K last night. I'll take it to the range tomorrow. Cool, I'll check that out. Thanks |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:03:51 PM EDT
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i'm very happy with my SpecWar 556, especially for the $$$
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:05:07 PM EDT
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Specwar 556 K. Yep Look at all of this insight. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:09:17 PM EDT
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SilencerCo is a badass company.
Pick one of their products and be happy. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:09:34 PM EDT
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I believe that's myth and bullshit. I am the manufacturer and I can repair my product if I need to. Please provide some proof of your claim. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good thing freeze plugs cost about $1 and can easily be replaced in a Form 1 can. Not legally unless you have the license or pay another $200.... I believe that's myth and bullshit. I am the manufacturer and I can repair my product if I need to. Please provide some proof of your claim. DK this is my understanding as well. You are the manufacturer so you can repair it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2015 5:12:01 PM EDT
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I <3 my Halo can. I am considering buying another one, the newer TI one but I don't think it fits over vortex FH like this one. Man, look at that thing! You are partying like it's 1999, for sure.
Now you just need a C-more on a gooseneck mount. |
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