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Posted: 4/12/2019 4:04:58 PM EDT

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VW makes the Polo GTI, but unfortunately it’s not sold here.

Posted: 4/12/2019 4:10:38 PM EDT

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I had an 87 CRX. That was a hoot of a car. It was like sitting on a skateboard.

A couple years later, for whatever reason, my mom got a red '92 Prelude Si for a commuter car. Not exactly a subcompact, and the interior was stupidly tight. But that was a fun thing to drive around the bump and weave roads in northern Kentucky.

Posted: 4/12/2019 4:21:46 PM EDT

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There are other options on the market as mentioned prior.

What I miss is the basic mini trucks. Esp 4 cyl stick shift models

Toyota SR5 Pickup
Mazda B2000
Nissan Pickup XE (before Frontier)

Even the old Ford Ranger and Chevy mini S-10

My Nissan XE just got put out to pasture for parts, blew the head gasket @ 336,### Miles Replaced the water pump @ 220,###. It went through several brake jobs and maybe 4 batteries but was still on the original Alternator.

I need to replace it, but there isn't a suitable new option. Older vehicles, the owners want to hold on to them for the same reason so used prices are high when they can be found in great shape.

Posted: 4/12/2019 4:41:38 PM EDT

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There are other options on the market as mentioned prior.

What I miss is the basic mini trucks. Esp 4 cyl stick shift models

Toyota SR5 Pickup
Mazda B2000
Nissan Pickup XE (before Frontier)

Even the old Ford Ranger and Chevy mini S-10

My Nissan XE just got put out to pasture for parts, blew the head gasket @ 336,### Miles Replaced the water pump @ 220,###. It went through several brake jobs and maybe 4 batteries but was still on the original Alternator.

I need to replace it, but there isn't a suitable new option. Older vehicles, the owners want to hold on to them for the same reason so used prices are high when they can be found in great shape.

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Well Ford is designing a new Courier that might come to the states so we'll see if we will get a small

Posted: 4/12/2019 4:44:48 PM EDT

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VW makes the Polo GTI, but unfortunately it’s not sold here.

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Neat, kinda crazy they managed to fit a 2 L in that small thing, that has to be one cramped engine bay

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Posted: 4/12/2019 5:08:37 PM EDT

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I think the toyota celica was a pretty underrated car. Early 2000's GTS models had a redline of 8k IIRC. Both it and scion tc's had a TRD supercharger option that was pretty cool.

Posted: 4/12/2019 5:27:50 PM EDT

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Neat, kinda crazy they managed to fit a 2 L in that small thing, that has to be one cramped engine bay

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Larger Displacement doesn’t mean it’s physically large. A Honda b16 vs b20 is just a little difference in height. A 427ci Chevy LSX is the same physical size as a 4.8l and both are way smaller than a 5.0 coyote

Posted: 4/12/2019 5:31:17 PM EDT

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or for that matter

hot hatch

Posted: 4/12/2019 5:36:17 PM EDT

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Any sportified version of a car would be more expensive in the first place. The Fiesta ST is already in Mazda 3 price ranges and neither are really that much cheaper than what the Focus ST or GTI sell for. When you get to those prices it's hard for some to justify going with the smaller (and often slower) car.

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Power to weight ratio. (Fiesta vs Focus when I was looking at both and a few upgrades). I know nothing about the GTI.

Posted: 4/12/2019 5:39:22 PM EDT

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I think the Hyundai Elantra gt is a pretty good looking little car.

Posted: 4/12/2019 6:13:55 PM EDT

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Larger Displacement doesn’t mean it’s physically large. A Honda b16 vs b20 is just a little difference in height. A 427ci Chevy LSX is the same physical size as a 4.8l and both are way smaller than a 5.0 coyote

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Well of course but the polo typically has 1L 3 cylinder engines in it, that should tell you what the engine bay is more optimized for

Posted: 4/12/2019 6:15:26 PM EDT

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I think the Hyundai Elantra gt is a pretty good looking little car.

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But that's a compact, many people that have posted in this the thread posted compact car examples not SUB compact cars

A subcompact is in between a compact and a city car

B segment as the Europeans call it

Posted: 4/12/2019 6:19:03 PM EDT

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Fiesta ST doesn't count?

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I have a Fiesta ST with a bigger turbo. Thing moves out.

Posted: 4/12/2019 6:28:30 PM EDT

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I think the toyota celica was a pretty underrated car. Early 2000's GTS models had a redline of 8k IIRC. Both it and scion tc's had a TRD supercharger option that was pretty cool.

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Toyota seriously screwed up not putting the GTS’s 2ZZ in the Spyder. Another couple hundred bucks per car would have given it identical power:weight to the S2000 and wouldn’t have been an oil burner. That was just plain dumb.

Posted: 4/12/2019 6:29:07 PM EDT

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Did everyone forget the Shelby charger?

Posted: 4/12/2019 6:46:30 PM EDT

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Most people did but I know of it

Posted: 4/12/2019 6:54:25 PM EDT

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I love my 03' Mini Cooper S. Around 220-ish hp, 6 speed manual, super quick steering ratio, and handles better than a go-kart. And makes close to 30mpg on the highway.....

Posted: 4/12/2019 6:58:39 PM EDT

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LOL...Does my 1957 Nash Metropolitan count? 1425 pounds in weight and 52 screaming HP!

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:01:23 PM EDT

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LOL...Does my 1957 Nash Metropolitan count? 1425 pounds in weight and 52 screaming HP!

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Maybe

Also put a supercharged Buick v6 in it

@UtopiaTexas

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:02:57 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/12/2019 7:18:10 PM EDT

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I had a min 80's Isuzu Impulse, a little two door turbo job that kind of looked like a VW Scirocco. Overall a decent, sporty little car. It sure would feel like a sub-compact if I tried to get into it today. Same with the Eagle Talon that followed the Isuzu.

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:20:26 PM EDT

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The mini and the 500 or City cars and the GTI is too big

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LMAO GTI "too big"

But yeah I miss the CRX

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:22:41 PM EDT

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Were these small enough to count?

Compared to say, a 1990 IROC or Mustang GT,
They gave up some hp to the top models,
But weighed maybe 10% less.

The first few years The turbos were high 14s, and AWD mid 14s.

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:23:07 PM EDT

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I have driven both Fiesta ST and Fiat 500 Abarth. They are both faster than is reasonable for cars that small.

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:23:44 PM EDT

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I was never a fan of sub-compacts, compacts were my style.

Two of the most fun cars I ever had were a Miata and a Eclipse GSX (1g)

Currently lusting after a WRX STi.

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:25:06 PM EDT

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Were these small enough to count?

https://oi649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/ramairfour/1969%20Dodge%20Charger%20Daytona/1990EagleTalonTurbo.jpg

Compared to say, a 1990 IROC or Mustang GT,
They gave up some hp to the top models,
But weighed maybe 10% less.

The first few years The turbos were high 14s, and AWD mid 14s.

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One minute late.

I miss my 1g Eclipse GSX. 4G63 Life.

I embarrassed many an IROC-Z or Fox.

AWD + Turbo =

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Mine was exactly like this one.. even down to ~450 hp.

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Posted: 4/12/2019 7:26:51 PM EDT

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LMAO GTI "too big"

But yeah I miss the CRX

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I meant by size category, the Golf GTI is one of the smallest compact out there, it's still big enough to not be in the subcompact segment

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:27:07 PM EDT

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Chevy Chevette .......

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Gave mine to my brother with 130,000 miles and running strong

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:27:19 PM EDT

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Were these small enough to count?

https://oi649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/ramairfour/1969%20Dodge%20Charger%20Daytona/1990EagleTalonTurbo.jpg

Compared to say, a 1990 IROC or Mustang GT,
They gave up some hp to the top models,
But weighed maybe 10% less.

The first few years The turbos were high 14s, and AWD mid 14s.

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By the standards of the day I would say it was a compact

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:28:16 PM EDT

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Gave mine to my brother with 130,000 miles and running strong

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Eta, misread nevermind

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:29:02 PM EDT

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What was the 90s Subaru with the split windows?

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:30:14 PM EDT

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One minute late.

I miss my 1g Eclipse GSX. 4G63 Life.

I embarrassed many an IROC-Z or Fox.

AWD + Turbo =

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Mine was exactly like this one.. even down to ~450 hp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sJaROCtZAg

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I had one of those. Bought it for I think 2k bucks during high school or just after. It hauled ass like nobody's business.

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:30:42 PM EDT

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Which one?

You're most likely thinking of the svx

I saw a blue SVX just yesterday actually, first one I've ever seen in person

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:31:27 PM EDT

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My first thought as well.

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:32:18 PM EDT

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What about the Porsche 911?

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:34:04 PM EDT

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What about the Porsche 911?

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Dude you be trolling

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:44:18 PM EDT

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Fiesta ST doesn't count?

Well, it's gone now.

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Thought they killed all their cars except the mustang? Is it not until 2020, or did they nix that idea? I see they have 2019 Fusion and Taurus listed too.

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:45:34 PM EDT

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Had a Gen2 CRX Si and Mk 1 GTI (Audi TB, Schrick Cam, Techtonics Exhaust)
- always wanted a FX16 - ugly enough to be cool

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Buddy owned Farah's built ST for a whole (maybe still does I can't keep track of the dudes stable) Cool car, but I've moved on

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:48:10 PM EDT

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Thought they killed all their cars except the mustang? Is it not until 2020, or did they nix that idea? I see they have 2019 Fusion and Taurus listed too.

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They are definitely going away. The newly redesigned Fiesta is already out in the rest of the world while we are still getting the last generation. I would expect that 2019 is the last year for all of these, but at the very least we won't be seeing any new generations of them in the states if they continue down their current path.

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:49:33 PM EDT

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MR2?

Posted: 4/12/2019 7:53:20 PM EDT

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I meant by size category, the Golf GTI is one of the smallest compact out there, it's still big enough to not be in the subcompact segment

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I can agree with that. Driving a sub compact rental car feels like getting into a clown car despite my daily driver being a GTI. The GTI certainly isnt big, but I can comfortably wear a helmet in mine despite being 6'5".

Posted: 4/12/2019 8:00:27 PM EDT

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OP needs to take an Abarth 500 for a spin. It's the closest thing to a heavily modded Mk1 GTI there is. Yes, based on a city car, but it's still waaaay more comfortable than you'd imagine. It's a travesty that VW no longer makes the 2 door GTI. I'm a former VW Scirocco Mk1-Mk2- Corrado- Golf-Golf GT, Alfa Spider-GTV6-Milano, and SAAB 96 owner.

Posted: 4/12/2019 8:14:40 PM EDT

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OP needs to take an Abarth 500 for a spin. It's the closest thing to a heavily modded Mk1 GTI there is. Yes, based on a city car, but it's still waaaay more comfortable than you'd imagine. It's a travesty that VW no longer makes the 2 door GTI. I'm a former VW Scirocco Mk1-Mk2- Corrado- Golf-Golf GT, Alfa Spider-GTV6-Milano, and SAAB 96 owner.

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the 500 is a city car ...

also know as the A segment

Posted: 4/12/2019 8:32:01 PM EDT

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I miss the late 80s and 90s cars in general. The curves, the lack of nanny state, and taking risks of manufacturers from Japan.

It will never happen again.

Posted: 4/12/2019 8:34:14 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/12/2019 8:46:34 PM EDT

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OP, I bought this new 2019 Soul Plus this afternoon....I got a decent deal on it or at least as good as I might expect from a dealer.

The Grandkid was in the market for a small used car and since my 2012 Soul Plus was still in nice shape and up to speed maintenance-wise we figured it would be a good 1st car. I let the Grandkid have it for 6K.

Posted: 4/12/2019 8:52:52 PM EDT

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Prolly close as you get anymore - maybe the Clio RS

Posted: 4/12/2019 8:57:46 PM EDT

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OP, I bought this new 2019 Soul Plus this afternoon....I got a decent deal on it or at least as good as I might expect from a dealer.

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The Grandkid was in the market for a small used car and since my 2012 Soul Plus was still in nice shape and up to speed maintenance-wise we figured it would be a good 1st car. I let the Grandkid have it for 6K.

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welcome to the family

@1srelluc

Posted: 4/12/2019 9:05:24 PM EDT

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neat

Posted: 4/12/2019 9:07:34 PM EDT

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Had a Saturn SC2 for 10 years and it was a great car. Nissan 200sx turbo qualify? Loved mine for 5 or so years then replaced it with a SE-R. Good times back then.

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