Should pushed for a change of venue.

..or TX or TN...

Well No True Antifa would show up...

And VA, where the guy ran his car into a group of them and plead guilty to murder.

The point is they are like a cancer and they spread. Every state has some major city and it's always leftist. Remember half the population is in these cities. Eventually instances like these, setting precedent on the unfairness of the jury selection, the judge's ruling, and policies that allow convictions of folks using self-defense against a mob will lead other states to call it "wanton endangerment" or some b.s. Courts often look to see what other courts did, as the SCOTUS dissents recently used as not wanting to upset prior court rulings.

BTW to the arfcom lawyers, I sat in on a jury selection once, the judge was VERY clear about making sure folks would be able to set aside their bias in making the decision on applying the law fairly, regardless of how they "felt things should be". He joked that often when attorneys "picked juries" as the public envisions them doing the attorneys often are putting their own bias on the juries, with jurors often surprising attorneys in their verdict choice because jurors so often want to "get it right". I wonder if such a speech was given during this trial. Have any of you encountered such instruction to prospective jurors?

The joke went past you not just once but like 5 times.
Have you never heard of the No True Scotsman fallacy?

Deadly physical force is covered under a different statute.
https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/161.219

Never knew there was a name for it.

I bet that video started way before 30 seconds earlier but they chose to show the last bit to avoid showing any justification for drawing.

Yup.... if he had fired. Oregon law would have covered him.  The classic arguement of "you didn't try to kill, so you weren't in fear for your life" arguement. Iirc Oregon doesn't consider the presentation of a firearm as "use of deadly force" so simple presentation is not covered under their self defense laws (again IIRC)

https://www.oregonfirearms.org/use-of-force-rules

Go in force.

Oregon.  There, that's the problem.  People who remain in blue states will be screwed over again and again regardless.  No tears shed here for stupidity.

That argument is so fucking stupid, and it constantly pops up on this forum.  Sometimes the display of the potential of deadly force can result in the act justifying force being halted.  Firing at that point may not really be necessary.  That has the potential to have a better result for all concerned.  Prosecuting people for that is incredibly stupid or short-sighted, same for advocating for this sort of policy or practice.  SD scenarios can have a variety of circumstances and nuances.

Usually, though, brandishing and menacing (by displaying arms) laws, IIRC, have exceptions for self-defence type scenarios.  At least my impression has been that most States have their laws written this way.

This is what it amounted to.  The judge sided with the party, not the law.

I have not

I just stay the fuck out of Portland period. I live in a left-leaning community in the gorge and I am waiting for when ANTIFA schedules a rally in my AO. Just a matter of time.....

Immediate action drill to break contact for LRRP teams:

1. First soldier in file (point man - closest to enemy at time of contact) fires one mag, throws grenade also if available, then runs to the rear of the file.

2. Second soldier in file does the same, after point man has cleared field of fire.

3. Third soldier in file does the same, etc. etc., as they "leapfrog" backwards, away from the contact, putting distance between themselves and the enemy.

Once all soldiers have executed this tactic they may emplace Claymores on their back trail if time permits (all situationally dependent), while they escape/evade to rally point or extraction site.

Then call for artillery fire mission on back trail if within the artillery fan, or call for air support if available.

Okay Army guys, tell me how I did as an Air Force guy!  Did I get this right?

I hope I didn't read all those Vietnam LRRP books for nothing.

16er gonna 16

Good thing he didn't CCW a 5.7?

Disguise the cameras or use hidden cameras.. They love to steal cameras/smash them.

It wont be long before ANTIFA kills some people,... and I won't be surprised when they get away with it.

what you need is a good camera operator with a long lens on overwatch over the parade route.   that's how you get them and they don't even know they were got.

I think what we've learned is that you don't show up with firearms.  You show up with quikrete milkshakes, acid, bike locks, etc.

Apparently, that's okay.

Exactly this.

This is truth.

Some places are beyond recovery.  The Creator himself wrote off 2 cities.  That should be proof enough, & there are a dozon or so fire-&-brimstone candidate cities right here in the US.  Stay out.  Don't patronize them.  Let them rot in their political/social/physical detritus.

The judge's name is a matter of public record, right?

Shouldn't this be a brandishing charge at best?  How is it assault if it was never fired or even pointed?

Guilty???

Fuck these commies.  

I disagree. We criticize Europe for its "No Go" zones and laugh at the POLICE who are restricted in going there. Yet what is our reaction when something very similar happens here (general public feeling it isn't safe to walk on an American street because of a violent culture mob and police being told not to do anything in the area lest they offend the locals)

This is AMERICA. That is why we have a 2A, so that NO group can keep us from going where we are lawfully permitted to go under Article IV's and Amendment XIV's  Privileges & Immunities clause, and  I'd argue Amendment IX.

I wonder if ANTIFA would pull crap like they did if there were several small groups of folks armed with long-guns walking around (non-LEO)

ETA thought I was posting in the Portland attack thread. same applies

Someone send me a message if antifa in a blue state or city ever does a year or more in prison or jail. I won’t be holding my breath

Member on another forum nailed it.  Portlandistan has a city ordnance against carrying loaded firearms in city limits.

https://www.portlandoregon.gov/citycode/article/332592

14A.60.010 Possession of a Loaded Firearm in a Public Place.

(Amended by Ordinance No. 184274, effective December 31, 2010.)

A.  It is unlawful for any person to knowingly possess or carry a firearm, in or upon a public place, including while in a vehicle in a public place, recklessly having failed to remove all the ammunition from the firearm.

B.  It is unlawful for any person to knowingly possess or carry a firearm and that firearm’s clip or magazine, in or upon a public place, including while in a vehicle in a public place, recklessly having failed to remove all the ammunition from the clip or magazine.

C.  The following are exceptions and constitute affirmative defenses to a violation of this Section:

1.  A police officer or other duly appointed peace officers, whether active or honorably retired.

2.  A member of the military in the performance of official duty.

3.  A person licensed to carry a concealed handgun.

4.  A person authorized to possess a loaded firearm while in or on a public building under ORS 166.370.

5.  A government employee authorized or required by his or her employment or office to carry firearms.

6.  A person summoned by a police officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace, while such person is actually engaged in assisting the officer.

7.  A merchant who possesses or is engaged in lawfully transporting unloaded firearms as merchandise.

8.  Organizations which are by law authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state.

9.  Duly authorized military or civil organizations while parading, or their members when going to and from the places of meeting of their organization.

10.  A corrections officer while transporting or accompanying an individual convicted of or arrested for an offense and confined in a place of incarceration or detention while outside the confines of the place of incarceration or detention.

11.  Persons travelling to and from an established target range, whether public or private, for the purpose of practicing shooting targets at the target ranges.

12.  Licensed hunters or fishermen while engaged in hunting or fishing, or while going to or returning from a hunting or fishing expedition.

13.  A person authorized by permit of the Chief of Police to possess a loaded firearm, clip, or magazine in a public place in the City of Portland.

14.  A security guard employed at a financial institution insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation while the security guard is on duty.

D.  It is unlawful for any person who possesses a firearm, clip or magazine in or upon a public place, or while in a vehicle in a public place, to refuse to permit a police officer to inspect that firearm after the police officer has identified him or herself as a police officer. This Section does not apply to law enforcement officers or members of the military in the performance of official duties, nor persons licensed to carry a concealed handgun or persons authorized to possess a loaded firearm, clip or magazine while in or on a public building or court facility.

E.  Penalty

1.  In the absence of the aggravating factors listed in Subsection 14A.60.010 E.2., the court may impose a sentence of up to 6 months imprisonment and a fine not to exceed $500 for violation of this section.

2.  When this offense is committed by carrying a loaded firearm containing ammunition that employs gunpowder as a propellant in a vehicle, including a transit vehicle, the court must impose a mandatory minimum sentence of 30 days for violation of this Section.

If the guy didn't have a permit, then he was in violation of the ordnance.  Even if he did, LEO can think of 1000 excuses to invalidate it.

Agreed.

Also sounds like you can carry an UNLOADED firearm openly at these events. Think like the IDF folks do in public.

Law also seems unconstitutional as it is written, if you can carry a firearm that has it's ammo/magazines removed. For when you need to use it in self-defense, and you load your firearm, it becomes a crime.

This is why I LOVE that KY has preemption on all things firearms and I have tried working so hard with others in my state to keep it that way

Better carry a revolver then. Portland will also get you for a loaded mag without a chl if you're open carrying. And Oregon has preemption too, but some cities, like Portland were given some exeptions.