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Posted: 9/2/2021 6:37:56 PM EST
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Posted: 9/2/2021 6:42:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Out of curiosity what's stopping the planes from just taking off and telling State Department to go fuck yourself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Michael Yon@MichaelYon 34 minutes ago Important: Department of State blocking us from taking Americans We have Americans with blue passports ready to leave Afghanistan. Taliban will allow landing. US Department of State blocking flights. Rick Clay's team has three jets ready. These jets were on ground on 30 August 2021. Senator Johnson's team called us and we on conference call right now. Our government is blocking taking out Americans from Afghanistan. Taliban is helping. US State Department blocking. Out of curiosity what's stopping the planes from just taking off and telling State Department to go fuck yourself. Just guessing, but since they would have to fly over other countries (with varying states of relations with the US) to get out to a safe country, taking off in conditions where the US government might answer questions with "we don't know who is on the plane or what they are doing, but we didn't authorize that flight", might be a bit more 'sporting' than the pilot wants to deal with. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 6:48:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Out of curiosity what's stopping the planes from just taking off and telling State Department to go fuck yourself. Landing someplace. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 6:50:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Michael Yon@MichaelYon 34 minutes ago Important: Department of State blocking us from taking Americans We have Americans with blue passports ready to leave Afghanistan. Taliban will allow landing. US Department of State blocking flights. Rick Clay's team has three jets ready. These jets were on ground on 30 August 2021. Senator Johnson's team called us and we on conference call right now. Our government is blocking taking out Americans from Afghanistan. Taliban is helping. US State Department blocking. If we're supposedly out of Afghanistan, how is it up to the US what planes come and go from HKIA? |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:42:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If we're supposedly out of Afghanistan, how is it up to the US what planes come and go from HKIA? I assume it’s due to won’t letting them land and off load folks. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:45:48 PM EST
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:56:24 PM EST
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Do they call it a dignified transfer event or is that a judgement?
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Posted: 9/2/2021 8:05:29 PM EST
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-UcqswVQAAwaqm?format=jpg&name=900x900 Whats the context? That he’s a democrat? |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 8:36:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Former Navy SEAL tells 'Tucker Carlson Today' veterans are questioning sacrifice  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRQm0DzApRkYou're damn right there are some vets questioning their role in all of this. It's not going to surprise me if someone snaps. The guy being interviewed made a great distinction. While others are saying "you did a good job, did your duty, don't feel bad" he's looking at it realistically and saying "you should question your sacrifice, but instead of killing yourself, channel your rage into something productive like turning things around." Michael Yon says this war, with the loss of fathers/mothers, leading figures, and broken families, this war will have ripple effects for generations. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 9:03:06 PM EST
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Why in the hell did we give the Afghans such advanced equipment? Yes I get the idea of US companies getting lucrative .gov contracts....
But there is no reason to give them Blackhawks. Just buy up a bunch of old UH-1s and have Bell refurb them to donate to the Afghans. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 9:18:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why in the hell did we give the Afghans such advanced equipment? Yes I get the idea of US companies getting lucrative .gov contracts.... But there is no reason to give them Blackhawks. Just buy up a bunch of old UH-1s and have Bell refurb them to donate to the Afghans. I will tell you. Milley told me once, sir, it’s cheaper to leave it behind than it is to take it out. I said, where do you come from? Do you mean you have a $10 million army tank and it’s cheaper to leave it behind? I don’t care who it is, I guarantee you I can remove that army tank for a tiny, tiny fraction of what you’re talking about. It gets onto a plane anywhere you want to take it out. And he said, he did tell me that, and I never forgot it. I said, this guy has to be stupid because he said, sir, it’s cheaper to leave it behind than it is to take it. And I said you got to be kidding. Now, if they did leave it behind, you have to blow it up. But I don’t like that. I would have taken it for a tiny fraction. I mean, these things cost tens of millions of dollars. Those Humvees that are all armor-plated, they’re unbelievably expensive to leave them, as opposed to just sending planes and transporting them out. How could anybody make a statement that it’s cheaper to leave it? In the meantime the Taliban has it, and it’s not going to be cheaper because they’re going to be using it against us and a lot of other very good nations and people. - President Donald Trump https://tennesseestar.com/2021/09/02/former-president-donald-trump-joins-the-john-fredericks-show-to-discuss-the-incompetent-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/ |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 10:23:17 PM EST
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What a mess. The dems couldn't run a free car wash without creating a disaster.
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Posted: 9/2/2021 10:41:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I will tell you. Milley told me once, sir, it’s cheaper to leave it behind than it is to take it out. I said, where do you come from? Do you mean you have a $10 million army tank and it’s cheaper to leave it behind? - President Donald Trump Clown World obviously |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 10:52:56 PM EST
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A look back at Bagram air base
 A look inside the luxuries of Bagram's air base Inside A Desolate Bagram Airfield After U.S. Troops Left Afghanistan  Inside A Desolate Bagram Airfield After U.S. Troops Left Afghanistan |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 3:30:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why in the hell did we give the Afghans such advanced equipment? Yes I get the idea of US companies getting lucrative .gov contracts.... But there is no reason to give them Blackhawks. Just buy up a bunch of old UH-1s and have Bell refurb them to donate to the Afghans. The Blackhawks we gave the ANAF were all A models; the idea was that the US Army could get rid of the few remaining A models they had around anymore, rather than sending them for upgrades, and Congress would buy new L or M models for the Army (I forget which). UH-60As are about the same age now, as UH-1s would have been...over 20 years ago. Hueys entered service in 1959, Blackhawks in 1979.  So what we gave them isn't all that advanced.  It also looks like our troops did a good job of chopping cables and bashing electronics boxes. It might be possible to get them back in flying condition with Chinese or Iranian help, but Afghanistan is in economic freefall right now, so it's the least of their problems. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 4:42:22 AM EST
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SCOOP: Ft. Dix, NJ Base Commander Issues Order to Not Photograph or Video Any Afghan Refugee Resettlement Processing on Base
The commander of Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst in New Jersey issued an order last week prohibiting filming or photographing any Afghan refugee resettlement processing due to a matter of internal relations. In a general order, Major General Mark D. Camerer instructed military and civilian personnel that “photographing or filming at risk individuals from Afghanistan and other locations or human casualties, as well as the possession, distribution, transfer, copying, or posting” is prohibited. According to a military report, up to 9,500 Afghan refugees could live at the base for a year. The refugees would occupy existing and temporary housing at the base, including a massive “tent city” on a 24.6-acre parade ground at Fort Dix, according to the report. The newcomers, classified as Afghan Special Immigrants, would live “within the Burlington County portion” of the 42,000-acre base, said the report, a draft assessment of the plan’s environmental impact. Refusal to obey could result in punitive action, such as detainment, and offenders may be charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice or “other applicable federal law or regulation.” Additionally, failure to comply could result in phone or camera confiscation and restriction from base access. https://humanevents.com/2021/09/02/scoop-ft-dix-nj-base-commander-issues-order-to-not-photograph-or-video-any-afghan-refugee-resettlement-processing-on-base/ |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 5:53:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SCOOP: Ft. Dix, NJ Base Commander Issues Order to Not Photograph or Video Any Afghan Refugee Resettlement Processing on Base The commander of Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst in New Jersey issued an order last week prohibiting filming or photographing any Afghan refugee resettlement processing due to a matter of internal relations. In a general order, Major General Mark D. Camerer instructed military and civilian personnel that “photographing or filming at risk individuals from Afghanistan and other locations or human casualties, as well as the possession, distribution, transfer, copying, or posting” is prohibited. According to a military report, up to 9,500 Afghan refugees could live at the base for a year. The refugees would occupy existing and temporary housing at the base, including a massive “tent city” on a 24.6-acre parade ground at Fort Dix, according to the report. The newcomers, classified as Afghan Special Immigrants, would live “within the Burlington County portion” of the 42,000-acre base, said the report, a draft assessment of the plan’s environmental impact. Refusal to obey could result in punitive action, such as detainment, and offenders may be charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice or “other applicable federal law or regulation.” Additionally, failure to comply could result in phone or camera confiscation and restriction from base access. https://humanevents.com/2021/09/02/scoop-ft-dix-nj-base-commander-issues-order-to-not-photograph-or-video-any-afghan-refugee-resettlement-processing-on-base/ The "internet" is pretty good at identifying people. I would say there is a greater than 115% chance there are people who were transported here that the US Government does not want identified or exposed before they are released into the general population. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:38:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What a mess. The dems couldn't run a free car wash without creating a disaster. They couldn't even run a whore house. True story. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:39:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Blackhawks we gave the ANAF were all A models; the idea was that the US Army could get rid of the few remaining A models they had around anymore, rather than sending them for upgrades, and Congress would buy new L or M models for the Army (I forget which). UH-60As are about the same age now, as UH-1s would have been...over 20 years ago. Hueys entered service in 1959, Blackhawks in 1979. So what we gave them isn't all that advanced. It also looks like our troops did a good job of chopping cables and bashing electronics boxes. It might be possible to get them back in flying condition with Chinese or Iranian help, but Afghanistan is in economic freefall right now, so it's the least of their problems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why in the hell did we give the Afghans such advanced equipment? Yes I get the idea of US companies getting lucrative .gov contracts.... But there is no reason to give them Blackhawks. Just buy up a bunch of old UH-1s and have Bell refurb them to donate to the Afghans. The Blackhawks we gave the ANAF were all A models; the idea was that the US Army could get rid of the few remaining A models they had around anymore, rather than sending them for upgrades, and Congress would buy new L or M models for the Army (I forget which). UH-60As are about the same age now, as UH-1s would have been...over 20 years ago. Hueys entered service in 1959, Blackhawks in 1979. So what we gave them isn't all that advanced. It also looks like our troops did a good job of chopping cables and bashing electronics boxes. It might be possible to get them back in flying condition with Chinese or Iranian help, but Afghanistan is in economic freefall right now, so it's the least of their problems. I'd feel much better if they they were using C4 and thermite on on everything left behind. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 7:10:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryI've seen this video posted in a few different places, but this is the best quality version I've seen. I'm a little surprised by the way it made me feel. I'm not going to waste time finding big words to describe the way it impacted me, but it's not only given those of us who never served a no-bullshit "this is what it was like to be there. it was fuckin crazy, man" view of life for the guys on the ground, but it's given us an ability to at least begin to understand what they went through and the range of emotions they must be feeling. I feel the weirdest mixture of sadness, straight up rage, and gratitude after watching it, and it must be amplified by orders of magnitude for the people who lived it and lost their brothers and sisters. The dude who made it needs to go make documentaries when he gets out. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 7:38:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SCOOP: Ft. Dix, NJ Base Commander Issues Order to Not Photograph or Video Any Afghan Refugee Resettlement Processing on Base The commander of Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst in New Jersey issued an order last week prohibiting filming or photographing any Afghan refugee resettlement processing due to a matter of internal relations. In a general order, Major General Mark D. Camerer instructed military and civilian personnel that “photographing or filming at risk individuals from Afghanistan and other locations or human casualties, as well as the possession, distribution, transfer, copying, or posting” is prohibited. According to a military report, up to 9,500 Afghan refugees could live at the base for a year. The refugees would occupy existing and temporary housing at the base, including a massive “tent city” on a 24.6-acre parade ground at Fort Dix, according to the report. The newcomers, classified as Afghan Special Immigrants, would live “within the Burlington County portion” of the 42,000-acre base, said the report, a draft assessment of the plan’s environmental impact. Refusal to obey could result in punitive action, such as detainment, and offenders may be charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice or “other applicable federal law or regulation.” Additionally, failure to comply could result in phone or camera confiscation and restriction from base access. https://humanevents.com/2021/09/02/scoop-ft-dix-nj-base-commander-issues-order-to-not-photograph-or-video-any-afghan-refugee-resettlement-processing-on-base/ Riot before the winter is over. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 8:24:56 AM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:08:02 AM EST
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Why? Because Biden can't follow through on anything (without screwing it up). And the first thing I got from that video, is that if you are going to have your terrorists display how professional they are by having them goosestep in a parade, maybe you should spend some time on training them how to do it in sync (while staying evenly spaced and marching in a straight line). |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:12:11 AM EST
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I always remembered this guy addressing the Iraqi police, and it seems to have held up over time...
NSFW warning for language  US Army Sgt gives iraqi police a telling off-This is awesome |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:14:01 AM EST
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Michael Yon@MichaelYon
1 hour ago Many rescues unfolding Working with Dave Eubank, Lara Logan, Rick Clay and others this morning. Great people with great resources can do a LOT very fast. Yet we notice great numbers of sheep-generals with trillions in resources just blow a hole in our ship, requiring private citizens to clean up their mess. The military and Department of State is in our way but we are working around them. SOCOM, CIA, and DoS are taking a support roll now. Later they will claim credit and hand out medals, but they all remain part of the problem not the solution. All the real operators are ex-operators, or mostly are civilians who never were in military or government at all. I am going back over but not rushing. Am getting a great deal done by going smooth and slow. I might fly back to USA before going, or fly someone to meet me with new gear before I go back. Will be some days. The only good thing about wars is you make new friends. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:47:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always remembered this guy addressing the Iraqi police, and it seems to have held up over time... NSFW warning for language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj6AXvkBnv4Never seen that video. Thanks for posting it. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 10:51:43 AM EST
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Today's statement on Afghanistan
 Joe Biden Walks Away And Refuses To Answer Questions On Americans He Abandoned In Afghanistan |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 11:05:19 AM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 11:08:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they call it a dignified transfer event or is that a judgement? I dont know WTF you are talking about with a "judgement" but yes, any movement of the body during the process is called a dignified transfer. Common sense would suggest what it means as well. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 11:11:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dont know WTF you are talking about with a "judgement" but yes, any movement of the body during the process is called a dignified transfer. Common sense would suggest what it means as well. Dignified is a word signaling moral value. I asked if the military selected that word or if the media did. Should be pretty clear I wrote it in English. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 11:19:02 AM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 11:43:24 AM EST
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The UAE's first plane landed at Kabul International Airport. Food and medical supplies donated by the UAE government were flown to Kabul.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 11:53:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They couldn't even run a whore house. True story. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What a mess. The dems couldn't run a free car wash without creating a disaster. They couldn't even run a whore house. True story. Aren't the Democrats in charge of the 117th Congress? |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 12:01:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always remembered this guy addressing the Iraqi police, and it seems to have held up over time... NSFW warning for language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj6AXvkBnv4I don't remember this one either but it's the truth |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 12:24:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? Because Biden can't follow through on anything (without screwing it up). And the first thing I got from that video, is that if you are going to have your terrorists display how professional they are by having them goosestep in a parade, maybe you should spend some time on training them how to do it in sync (while staying evenly spaced and marching in a straight line). Yes, their drill and ceremony is terrible. Who is closer to attaining their strategic objectives? Something something, "if you judge a fish based upon his ability to climb a tree, you will always think it is stupid". |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:54:56 PM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:59:51 PM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 2:14:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-YSRDVXMAAXOOs?format=jpg&name=900x900 #allculturesareequal Am I doing this right? |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 3:43:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: #allculturesareequal Am I doing this right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-YSRDVXMAAXOOs?format=jpg&name=900x900 #allculturesareequal Am I doing this right? #thatshowevilthisregimeactuallyis |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 3:59:40 PM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 4:26:30 PM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:15:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For those wondering who Kurilla is. Now CO of 18th Airborne Corps Here he is getting shot(Mosul 2005). Photo taken by Michael Yon. For him to call Kurilla out like this is colossal. https://www.michaelyon-online.com/images/stories/gatesoffire/photo-4-ltc-kurilla-is-shotac-730.jpg https://www.michaelyon-online.com/images/stories/gatesoffire/photo-9-sgm-prosser-arrivesac-730.jpg @58Teague I was not in that actual fight, but I was there that day. You’re right, Yon saying this stuff about Kurilla is huge. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:48:46 PM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:51:25 PM EST
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Posted: 9/3/2021 7:31:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, their drill and ceremony is terrible. Who is closer to attaining their strategic objectives? Something something, "if you judge a fish based upon his ability to climb a tree, you will always think it is stupid". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why? Because Biden can't follow through on anything (without screwing it up). And the first thing I got from that video, is that if you are going to have your terrorists display how professional they are by having them goosestep in a parade, maybe you should spend some time on training them how to do it in sync (while staying evenly spaced and marching in a straight line). Yes, their drill and ceremony is terrible. Who is closer to attaining their strategic objectives? Something something, "if you judge a fish based upon his ability to climb a tree, you will always think it is stupid". More like thinking it is stupid to have a fish climb a tree, while you video it, to show how great a fish it is. Might be better to show it off by having it do fish stuff. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 7:35:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryTaliban Joe or TJ |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 8:02:21 PM EST
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 Rep. Mullin blasts Biden after covert rescue mission into Afghanistan was thwarted |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:03:23 PM EST
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State Dept. Believes Taliban Government Will Be "Inclusive"
 State Dept. Believes Taliban Government Will Be "Inclusive" |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:05:17 PM EST
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Amazing how quickly that family being wiped out story disappeared from the news.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 10:07:37 PM EST
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Tucker: The rules are different now
 Tucker: The rules are different now |
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