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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:52:47 PM EDT
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 Chuck Schumer: "Americans Will Know Who Is For Fixing The Border And Who Is Not" Illegal Immigrant Stealing Pro-Israel Flag From Jewish Family, Beating Homeowner  Shocking Footage Of Illegal Immigrant Stealing Pro-Israel Flag From Jewish Family, Beating Homeowner |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:54:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That border bill sounded worse than useless. Is the $95B "package" just more ukraine money? 
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:57:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Bill specifically did not allow that. Thay was one of consessions the Democrats had made. I know the spending bill was a pile of shit the changes to the boarder were a step in the right direction. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It allowed for 4,999 "illegal aliens" to be "encountered" a day. Here's the kicker... IF one of those illegals says, "I claim asylum" -they don't count as part of the 4,999. The Bill specifically did not allow that. Thay was one of consessions the Democrats had made. I know the spending bill was a pile of shit the changes to the boarder were a step in the right direction. You can't be this naive. Which part of the bill FORCES the administration to enforce anything in it at any time? xiden can shutdown the border at any time right now with zero new legislation, but he doesn't. I see nothing in this bill that will change that. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:57:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Can't risk making progress on a critical wedge issue this close to an election.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:58:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $1.3 billion allotted for ankle bracelets, this seems reasonable Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That border bill sounded worse than useless. Is the $95B "package" just more ukraine money? Seems like $1.3 hundred would buy enough ankle bracelets. Look for them to be cut off 87' away, attach a new band and re-issue like a social security number. Maybe just velcro, since we're using the honor system. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 5:59:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't risk making progress on a critical wedge issue this close to an election. "Progress" my ass, that bill was a step in the wrong direction. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:01:03 PM EDT
[#7]
So, your idea of a good border bill is to codify the lawless invasion and spend a pittance on processors to further enable it?
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:03:20 PM EDT
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Some days I think we'd be better off with a king mandating by decree, rather than a bunch of crony slimeballs on both sides who don't have the American public's best interest at heart.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:06:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Progress" my ass, that bill was a step in the wrong direction. This , the details are crawling out now . Was a ploy for soundbites and optics . MSM is totally full of shit . They are working over and spinning things now . |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:07:30 PM EDT
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thankfully the bill is dead.
bill was pretty much what we have now just more funding to get the illegals able to vote faster. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:11:43 PM EDT
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We don't need any new bills, Congress should meet once a year, we pay their travel and boarding expenses and $500 bucks for their time.
The rest of the time they can farm or lawyer or flip burgers at a real job at home. Screw this professional politician thing. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:14:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Progress" my ass, that bill was a step in the wrong direction. 
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:21:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That won't happen, now we give Ukraine and Isreal Billions and have NO changes at all to the boarder situation. We lost, when we thought we won. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No more money for Ukraine until our border is fixed. Then any money we give them after that needs to be paid back. That won't happen, now we give Ukraine and Isreal Billions and have NO changes at all to the boarder situation. We lost, when we thought we won. So you where going to let that cocksucker gloat that he solved the border problem on the campaign trail when he's had 3yrs to do something about it fuck him and the democrats let them die on this hill . |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:22:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you where going to let that cocksucker gloat that he solved the border problem on the campaign trail when he's had 3yrs to do something about it fuck him and the democrats let them die on this hill . and keep sending more "migrants" to the sanctuary cities. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:26:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The money for 'border security' was to enable processing and releasing immigrants into the US faster. There was nothing to secure a damn thing in there. Biden could secure the border with the wave of a hand. The politicians are lying to you. You're damn right, unfortunately. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:26:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some days I think we'd be better off with a king mandating by decree, rather than a bunch of crony slimeballs on both sides who don't have the American public's best interest at heart.  English Bob |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:32:23 PM EDT
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In the bill there was expedited hiring of many more asylum officers. That should tell you everything you need to know. They were trying to fast track amnesty. Fuck this fraud administration and congress as a whole.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:33:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: and keep sending more "migrants" to the sanctuary cities. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you where going to let that cocksucker gloat that he solved the border problem on the campaign trail when he's had 3yrs to do something about it fuck him and the democrats let them die on this hill . and keep sending more "migrants" to the sanctuary cities. This , a political ploy to shift blame to the R's or let FJB get a win . FJB , give him nothing . |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:36:02 PM EDT
[#19]
Can they not make threats to Texas without that money?
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:44:13 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That bill was a huge turd, a huge pile of SHIT. Fuck be upon any republican that supported it. We Americans are SICK of this BULLSHIT. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:49:22 PM EDT
[#21]
They won't defend the border but they will persecute US citizens who try to defend the border.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:52:18 PM EDT
[#22]
Hardly a compromise.
No one trusts anyone so you can't propose a clean bill for the border and a clean bill for the war funding so you get this hot garbage. Both sides want the war funding. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK but now we get nothing. No additional boarder security at all no immigration caps, no agreed upon mechanistic to formally close the boarder, nothing. ...and they will just pass the 95 Billion dollar bill and give the Ukraine and Isreal thier money anyway. This is giant cluster fuck now. It was just a regular cluster fuck before. I would have passed the bill and then had Trump's admi distraction tightness the reigns, but what do I know... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That bill was a huge turd, a huge pile of SHIT. Fuck be upon any republican that supported it. We Americans are SICK of this BULLSHIT. OK but now we get nothing. No additional boarder security at all no immigration caps, no agreed upon mechanistic to formally close the boarder, nothing. ...and they will just pass the 95 Billion dollar bill and give the Ukraine and Isreal thier money anyway. This is giant cluster fuck now. It was just a regular cluster fuck before. I would have passed the bill and then had Trump's admi distraction tightness the reigns, but what do I know... Sometimes getting something that doesn't solve the issue isn't worth it. Standing on principle may still mean something. Let the democrats pass what they want without any support from the republicans and let the d's own it. Then hammer them with it and get out in front criticizing it as soon as it passes. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:56:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Bill specifically did not allow that. Thay was one of consessions the Democrats had made. I know the spending bill was a pile of shit the changes to the boarder were a step in the right direction. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It allowed for 4,999 "illegal aliens" to be "encountered" a day. Here's the kicker... IF one of those illegals says, "I claim asylum" -they don't count as part of the 4,999. The Bill specifically did not allow that. Thay was one of consessions the Democrats had made. I know the spending bill was a pile of shit the changes to the boarder were a step in the right direction. Biden could wave his pen and issue a remain in Mexico EO, just like the one he did away with his first day in office. Problem is, he doesn’t fucking care. This bill and the politicians whom wrote it don’t give a fuck about the border and don’t care to do anything about it. If they did care, it would’ve been handled by now in a multitude of other ways besides platitudes and lip service in what is ostensibly a foreign aid bill. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:57:04 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Bill specifically did not allow that. Thay was one of consessions the Democrats had made. I know the spending bill was a pile of shit the changes to the boarder were a step in the right direction. Username checks out |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 6:59:54 PM EDT
[#26]
Weird how the Border Patrol Union, which was in a giant lovefest with Trump for the entirety of his administration, along with anyone in Congress or the policy world who knew their ass from a hole in the ground when it came to the border, thought it was a good bill. But if the entire Trumpovik commentariat is against it then it must be a horrible bill!
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:01:24 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That border bill sounded worse than useless. Is the $95B "package" just more ukraine money? |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:01:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:02:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Maybe they should do a bill about an issue instead of hundreds of issues no one read all the details on.
Oh wait nevermind that would make sense so probably isn’t allowed anymore |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It allowed for 4,999 "illegal aliens" to be "encountered" a day. Here's the kicker... IF one of those illegals says, "I claim asylum" -they don't count as part of the 4,999. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:02:33 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to worry, Trump has declared that he will close the border the first day in the White House! All is good the Don has it figured out! Um……then again,wonder why he didn’t close the border while HE was president? Trump did a pretty good job despite no support from Congress and hostile judges. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:02:53 PM EDT
[#32]
This is an appropriation bill, why is it being originated in the Senate?
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:04:06 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No TDS here, the border will never be closed because NO president CAN shut the border on his own, not even dear leader Trump! And even if you was successful in closing the border what will you do with the millions of illegals already here? Every politician knows it’s a losing situation and that why the can gets kicked down the road no matter which party is in power. Just more of the games played in Washington to make the other side look bad. It doesn't need to be shut down 100%. Trump did a good job reducing the influx. And there is no reason to not begin deporting illegals that are here. It doesn't have to be perfect or complete, more better is better. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:06:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is an appropriation bill, why is it being originated in the Senate? Good point. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:08:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird how the Border Patrol Union, which was in a giant lovefest with Trump for the entirety of his administration, along with anyone in Congress or the policy world who knew their ass from a hole in the ground when it came to the border, thought it was a good bill. But if the entire Trumpovik commentariat is against it then it must be a horrible bill! A union supported increased spending for the union jobs they represent? Shocking. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:09:08 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't need to be shut down 100%. Trump did a good job reducing the influx. And there is no reason to not begin deporting illegals that are here. It doesn't have to be perfect or complete, more better is better. Trump put tariffs on Mexico until they shut it down themselves. They just need to deny visas to the non central american illegals or deport them at the airport. Then police their small southern border with central america. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:11:43 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK but now we get nothing. No additional boarder security at all no immigration caps, no agreed upon mechanistic to formally close the boarder, nothing. ...and they will just pass the 95 Billion dollar bill and give the Ukraine and Isreal thier money anyway. This is giant cluster fuck now. It was just a regular cluster fuck before. I would have passed the bill and then had Trump's admi distraction tightness the reigns, but what do I know... The Biden plan is to use ports of entry so they can minimize the bad optics. And fund more people to process the illegals, to make that feasible. There's no reason we should help fund that. Nothing in the law forced Biden to do anything, and since Biden's action is what matters (not the laws he ignores), the bill offered nothing. Let them vote for clean spending bills to support Ukraine, Isael and Hamas. Let's make things clear. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:13:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Good never should have even been created.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:13:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump put tariffs on Mexico until they shut it down themselves. They just need to deny visas to the non central american illegals or deport them at the airport. Then police their small southern border with central america. It's really just about incentives. You can even set up incentives for them to self deport. None of it works 100%, but it doesn't have to. Nothing involving human behavior works 100%. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:17:28 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That border bill sounded worse than useless. Is the $95B "package" just more ukraine money? flowing into the usual corrupt pockets does nothing to end the invasion |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:21:38 PM EDT
[#41]
This thread makes it obvious who believes the msm talking points on this horrible fucking bill that actually does nothing to force xiden to enforce ANY border laws.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:22:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's really just about incentives. You can even set up incentives for them to self deport. Wouldn’t be hard at all honestly it’s just getting the political elite to do it |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:24:34 PM EDT
[#43]
Can't fix the border! Trump needs it as an issue to run on!
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:24:36 PM EDT
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I am sure this new bill is a large turd with a new catchy name.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:26:49 PM EDT
[#45]
That bill shows how stupid Americans are by giving $10 billion to Gaza. We funded those tunnels.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While Trump was far from perfect, you have to have a serious case of TDS to not look at any graph and see the difference in illegals under Trump vs Biden (or Obama). It's not even close. He was blocked mostly by OTHER Republicans. Republicans are saying under Trump 4k immigrants were crossing at various times. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Progress" my ass, that bill was a step in the wrong direction. Bullshit. It's the most conservative bill in a long time. Progressives heads are/were fucking exploding at the draconian, "exophobic" bill that this is in their eyes. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:33:04 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK but now we get nothing. No additional boarder security at all no immigration caps, no agreed upon mechanistic to formally close the boarder, nothing. ... |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:34:37 PM EDT
[#49]
Now that the awful bill has been stripped it can go forward.
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Posted: 2/7/2024 7:34:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every time I hear the word "package" I know we're getting fucked. |
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