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Posted: 8/8/2021 9:08:09 AM EDT
I was just listening to NYC restaurant owner whine about food price increase, wage and employ issues blah blah blah. It sure seems to me that they got what they voted for. Stupid SHOULD hurt. We'll never go back. There was a lady that lived in NJ that said she's a lifelong city girl and SHE won't go back because "dangerous". Again these idiots are living the life they voted for.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:13:19 AM EDT
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Why do you assume these individuals voted for these laws?
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Probably because conservative republicans are pretty much never rans there? Most vote for democrats or socialists, the numbers prove it.
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Because, they did, in a roundabout way. Even if not technically directly. We all have. I mean, we've sucked it up so far, have we not?
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:21:28 AM EDT
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The long train of abuses and usurpations is rolling along and we're all still onboard. Grumbling, but not jumping off, either.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:22:21 AM EDT
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Same issues in Florida. $15 min wage was passed.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:23:42 AM EDT
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Probably because conservative republicans are pretty much never rans there? Most vote for democrats or socialists, the numbers prove it.
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Did you vote for Clinton?

Or Obama?

Or Biden?

Do you, and I, and everyone else who voted republican get what we deserve?

Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:24:02 AM EDT
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those politicians won't stop until that city resembles an episode of "the deuce" - "again"
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Because, they did, in a roundabout way. Even if not technically directly. We all have. I mean, we've sucked it up so far, have we not?
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Because, they did, in a roundabout way. Even if not technically directly. We all have. I mean, we've sucked it up so far, have we not?

I sure as hell didn't vote for I-1639 in WA, but I still deal with it's bullshit.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:34:03 AM EDT
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That would be an improvement over the current PCNY we have now.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:34:57 AM EDT
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Did you vote for Clinton?

Or Obama?

Or Biden?

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Probably because conservative republicans are pretty much never rans there? Most vote for democrats or socialists, the numbers prove it.

Did you vote for Clinton?

Or Obama?

Or Biden?

Do you, and I, and everyone else who voted republican get what we deserve?



But it is pretty much always close to a 50/50 split outside of certain states and cities. Then you have the areas and some states where it is so lopsided that it really does boil down to pretty much everyone voting one way. NYC is one of those area's. Now get outside of NYC and it even's back out somewhat.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:36:46 AM EDT
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So you've never been to New York City?
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:40:06 AM EDT
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You guys bitch when people don't jump off...you bitch when they do...

Lots of people left the city, that's jumping off the train.  

You expect NYC to change?  

They can leave they just can't live near you?  I get it.  I don't want them living near me either...but that applies to pretty much everybody, not just assholes from the city.
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You guys bitch when people don't jump off...you bitch when they do...

Lots of people left the city, that's jumping off the train.  

You expect NYC to change?  

They can leave they just can't live near you?  I get it.  I don't want them living near me either...but that applies to pretty much everybody, not just assholes from the city.
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The long train of abuses and usurpations is rolling along and we're all still onboard. Grumbling, but not jumping off, either.
You guys bitch when people don't jump off...you bitch when they do...

Lots of people left the city, that's jumping off the train.  

You expect NYC to change?  

They can leave they just can't live near you?  I get it.  I don't want them living near me either...but that applies to pretty much everybody, not just assholes from the city.

Hell fire, son, I ain't bitching. It's just an observed reality. It's just not bad enough yet for jumping off to be worth the squeeze yet, is all. But that can change so fast people have no fucking how idea how fast it can go.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:51:20 AM EDT
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new york shitty has been overwhelmingly commicrat for decades. they decide the politics of most of the state by themselves. so for the most part they did get what they voted for. there are exceptions but not enough to make a difference.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:51:34 AM EDT
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The majority of restaurant owners in major NY state cities probably did vote for it.  I’m sure there are plenty of business in the state who did’t, and you can’t just move you’re entire restaurant at will if it’s successful where it is at.  Just like not everyone can afford to lose their job.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 9:56:37 AM EDT
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The people crying about American metros on this forum while sucking from their teat are hilarious. 85% of our GDP comes from major metros. All the tax revenue subsidizing your lifestyle? Big cities.

https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Featured%20Insights/Urbanization/US%20cities%20in%20the%20global%20economy/MGI_Urban_America_Full_Report.ashx

We really should keep tax revenue within states. Might wake some of you up.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:03:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:03:30 AM EDT
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Edited with looked up numbers.

Votes for Trump in NYC alone: 691,682.



Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:03:38 AM EDT
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FPNI.

For an outsider to claim they know how someone voted based on their location is a pretty weak assumption. What evidence? Statistics? lol
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:03:52 AM EDT
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The people crying about American metros on this forum while sucking from their teat are hilarious. 85% of our GDP comes from major metros. All the tax revenue subsidizing your lifestyle? Big cities.

https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Featured%20Insights/Urbanization/US%20cities%20in%20the%20global%20economy/MGI_Urban_America_Full_Report.ashx

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NY is a net positive to the federal tax roles.

Of course cities generate cash flow, that's where the people are.  Now feed yourselves without using land outside the city.  Generate the energy you depend on.  Find clean water.

Upstate land owners lost out on billions of dollars of income because Cuomo didn't want to risk NYCs source of water.  We are the water shed, the prison camp and the bread basket to the city.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:03:54 AM EDT
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I was just listening to NYC restaurant owner whine about food price increase, wage and employ issues blah blah blah. It sure seems to me that they got what they voted for. Stupid SHOULD hurt. We'll never go back. There was a lady that lived in NJ that said she's a lifelong city girl and SHE won't go back because "dangerous". Again these idiots are living the life they voted for.
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most national companies have already moved to $15 min wage even without laws being passed
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:07:49 AM EDT
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NY is a net positive to the federal tax roles.

Of course cities generate cash flow, that's where the people are.  Now feed yourselves without using land outside the city.  Generate the energy you depend on.  Find clean water.

Upstate land owners lost out on billions of dollars of income because Cuomo didn't want to risk NYCs source of water.  We are the water shed, the prison camp and the bread basket to the city.
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The people crying about American metros on this forum while sucking from their teat are hilarious. 85% of our GDP comes from major metros. All the tax revenue subsidizing your lifestyle? Big cities.

https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Featured%20Insights/Urbanization/US%20cities%20in%20the%20global%20economy/MGI_Urban_America_Full_Report.ashx

We really should keep tax revenue within states. Might wake some of you up.
NY is a net positive to the federal tax roles.

Of course cities generate cash flow, that's where the people are.  Now feed yourselves without using land outside the city.  Generate the energy you depend on.  Find clean water.

Upstate land owners lost out on billions of dollars of income because Cuomo didn't want to risk NYCs source of water.  We are the water shed, the prison camp and the bread basket to the city.


Kiryas Joel didn't

Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:19:32 AM EDT
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I dislike eating in NYC for the most part.

so zero fucks given

let that place disintegrate to what it was pre-Giuliani

couldn't care less.

Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:32:57 AM EDT
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NY is a net positive to the federal tax roles.

Of course cities generate cash flow, that's where the people are.  Now feed yourselves without using land outside the city.  Generate the energy you depend on.  Find clean water.

Upstate land owners lost out on billions of dollars of income because Cuomo didn't want to risk NYCs source of water.  We are the water shed, the prison camp and the bread basket to the city.
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The people crying about American metros on this forum while sucking from their teat are hilarious. 85% of our GDP comes from major metros. All the tax revenue subsidizing your lifestyle? Big cities.

https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Featured%20Insights/Urbanization/US%20cities%20in%20the%20global%20economy/MGI_Urban_America_Full_Report.ashx

We really should keep tax revenue within states. Might wake some of you up.
NY is a net positive to the federal tax roles.

Of course cities generate cash flow, that's where the people are.  Now feed yourselves without using land outside the city.  Generate the energy you depend on.  Find clean water.

Upstate land owners lost out on billions of dollars of income because Cuomo didn't want to risk NYCs source of water.  We are the water shed, the prison camp and the bread basket to the city.


Easy.

Food comes form the store.

Power from the outlet

And water from the facet.

Super easy!

Was there some point you were trying to make?


Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:35:31 AM EDT
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All I know is that I have enjoyed going to NYC pre covid and Deblasio.   We would go several times a year for dining and entertainment.   I will not go back for any reason unless or until it returns to prior status.  

I’m not holding my breath…
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:38:07 AM EDT
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Then you have the native New Yorkers who welcome the crime and mayhem because they want the "old nyc" back. Crazy.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 10:40:43 AM EDT
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you know about 40 percent of nyc residents (several million)  votes R.
right?
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I was just listening to NYC restaurant owner whine about food price increase, wage and employ issues blah blah blah. It sure seems to me that they got what they voted for. Stupid SHOULD hurt. We'll never go back. There was a lady that lived in NJ that said she's a lifelong city girl and SHE won't go back because "dangerous". Again these idiots are living the life they voted for.
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Do you know for fact that these people voted for what they got? You do realize that there are conservatives and right of center people in NYC and NYS.
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Did you vote for Clinton?

Or Obama?

Or Biden?

Do you, and I, and everyone else who voted republican get what we deserve?

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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."  H.L. Mencken.
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New York State votes about 40% R. The city is much closer to 15-20%.

I feel for the patriots who live behind enemy lines.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 11:18:49 AM EDT
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Many have relocated shop down here to Miami. We have Tuesday reservations for Carbone Italian restaurant, which moved down last year and opened in January. It took us 7 months to get that reservation.

Chris

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Kiryas Joel didn't

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Ok...?
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Because, they did, in a roundabout way. Even if not technically directly. We all have. I mean, we've sucked it up so far, have we not?
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Great point. OP has voted for RINOs and somehow he's better than the dude in the article lol
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."  H.L. Mencken.
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Between Mencken and Twain you can pretty much understand people and politics.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 11:20:49 AM EDT
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My nephew bought a $1m condo in Brooklyn. He was supposedly smart, Stanford grad who works on Wall Street. Why the hell would you buy property in NYC?
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Myself and many other ARFCOMMERs lived in NYC.

Why would you assume that we voted for Democrats?

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This.  Lived there for 2 years as a hardcore rightwing conservative.  Moved in with my girlfriend in Queens and used her closet to store my guns.  Freaked her out at first but after 30 years she owns guns now as well.
Most of the people I hung out with were conservative, problem is we were the minority in that area.

OP, was just talking about NYC with my wife last night, we miss our trips back there but we arent going back any time soon.  Everyone likes to bag on NY for their politics but I always enjoyed going to the city and staying for a week.  Great food, great places to drink and walk and sightsee.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 11:34:53 AM EDT
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The people crying about American metros on this forum while sucking from their teat are hilarious. 85% of our GDP comes from major metros. All the tax revenue subsidizing your lifestyle? Big cities.

https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Featured%20Insights/Urbanization/US%20cities%20in%20the%20global%20economy/MGI_Urban_America_Full_Report.ashx

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Blue states produce paper

Red states produce food

Lets shut it down and see what happens
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 11:44:19 AM EDT
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If he's actually a smart Stanford grad that works on Wall Street he will be making $250,000 inside of 2 years.
Depending on what he actually does on Wall Street he can be making close to $500,000 inside of 5 years if he's ambitious, sometimes multiples of that.
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This.  Lived there for 2 years as a hardcore rightwing conservative.  Moved in with my girlfriend in Queens and used her closet to store my guns.  Freaked her out at first but after 30 years she owns guns now as well.
Most of the people I hung out with were conservative, problem is we were the minority in that area.

OP, was just talking about NYC with my wife last night, we miss our trips back there but we arent going back any time soon.  Everyone likes to bag on NY for their politics but I always enjoyed going to the city and staying for a week.  Great food, great places to drink and walk and sightsee.
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Myself and many other ARFCOMMERs lived in NYC.

Why would you assume that we voted for Democrats?

I know tons of conservative Republicans who live and/or work in NYC.


This.  Lived there for 2 years as a hardcore rightwing conservative.  Moved in with my girlfriend in Queens and used her closet to store my guns.  Freaked her out at first but after 30 years she owns guns now as well.
Most of the people I hung out with were conservative, problem is we were the minority in that area.

OP, was just talking about NYC with my wife last night, we miss our trips back there but we arent going back any time soon.  Everyone likes to bag on NY for their politics but I always enjoyed going to the city and staying for a week.  Great food, great places to drink and walk and sightsee.


It's fascinating looking at the maps by district for election results. Queens is surprisingly diverse, with many red or pink pockets, but dark blue near JFK. Staten Island is predominately red. Brooklyn is mostly dark blue, with pockets of red almost perfectly tracing the areas where you can function in Russian without slipping into English.

https://toddwschneider.com/maps/nyc-presidential-election-results/?year=2020#10.23/40.6749/-73.962
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The people crying about American metros on this forum while sucking from their teat are hilarious. 85% of our GDP comes from major metros. All the tax revenue subsidizing your lifestyle? Big cities.

https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/McKinsey/Featured%20Insights/Urbanization/US%20cities%20in%20the%20global%20economy/MGI_Urban_America_Full_Report.ashx

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You sure skimmed over that and found your own summary.

American metro areas comprise of more than just the core city and it’s political system. Metro Detroit for example is three counties, one of which strongly voted for Trump.

Another aspect too, is while a business may be headquartered in a large urban city, they often have rural manufacturing plants doing the work. Something I know about very well, for example, while Detroit may have a high GDP, many of the components used for automobiles are made in small towns in Ohio or Indiana.

You miss the larger picture when all you look at is the paper. My employer is Detroit headquartered and doesn’t earn a profit from a single thing inside of the city.
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That kind of makes the point. Small companies now have to compete with big company wages which is hard to do. The small companies are put out of business, the big companies that are left attract more out of state leftists and also push the whole gay/racism lefty agenda.

Plus then you only have chain stores
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 12:11:28 PM EDT
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Where the fuck are the Five Families of NY? I guess organized crime is really dead after all, or it’s all just ran by the city government now
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 12:20:12 PM EDT
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Restaurants always had high turnover in NYC…average lifespan of a new restaurant was about 5-7 years before people got bored…theme cuisine always had the trendy short life. Quality or heritage restaurants usually survived much longer.
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I was a partner at large law firm in Manhattan. I would walk around NYC wearing my MAGA hat, which I bought directly from Donald Trump, and got nothing but shit. Which was the point.

"Boy you in the wrong fucking place"

"Man you better beat that white boys ass"

That's the guy on Lexington who got tossed right over the construction scaffolding after stepping his dumb ass up

I would be sitting in my complex grilling area, with like-minded people and people would literally shout their liberal bullshit down at us like it was their busines.
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I was a partner at large law firm in Manhattan. I would walk around NYC wearing my MAGA hat, which I bought directly from Donald Trump, and got nothing but shit. Which was the point.

"Boy you in the wrong fucking place"

"Man you better beat that white boys ass"

That's the guy on Lexington who got tossed right over the construction scaffolding after stepping his dumb ass up

I would be sitting in my complex grilling area, with like-minded people and people would literally shout their liberal bullshit down at us like it was their busines.
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Myself and many other ARFCOMMERs lived in NYC.

Why would you assume that we voted for Democrats?

I know tons of conservative Republicans who live and/or work in NYC.

I was a partner at large law firm in Manhattan. I would walk around NYC wearing my MAGA hat, which I bought directly from Donald Trump, and got nothing but shit. Which was the point.

"Boy you in the wrong fucking place"

"Man you better beat that white boys ass"

That's the guy on Lexington who got tossed right over the construction scaffolding after stepping his dumb ass up

I would be sitting in my complex grilling area, with like-minded people and people would literally shout their liberal bullshit down at us like it was their busines.


You bought a hat directly from Trump and  threw a guy off construction scaffolding? I want to party with you, man.
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Shut down the profit motive? Good luck with that.
Link Posted: 8/8/2021 12:44:59 PM EDT
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It appears 86.7% of Manhatten voted for Biden and 83.4% of the Bronx

90.4% of the Bronx voted for Cuomo
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