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The two Rhodies in the collection. The regular paint one belongs to my mom. The camo one belongs to me
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If you do have a source for kits, I may be PM-ing you in the near future.  Looking to do a second Rhodie build once I have enough saved up.  Just looking and I couldn't find a damn thing, not even on the FalFiles.  I doubt I'll be able to pay $220 again like I did a couple of years ago for my first build.
Link Posted: 8/27/2014 7:02:41 PM EST
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You will pay a shitload for original, on the order of a few hundred dollars per item last I saw... Very collectible...

Don't know anywhere that makes decent repros.
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Any one know a source for Rhodesian camo? Original or reproduction.


You will pay a shitload for original, on the order of a few hundred dollars per item last I saw... Very collectible...

Don't know anywhere that makes decent repros.



The Trident stuff wasn't bad.  The colours and pattern were correct and the cuts were generally pretty accurate, but they took a shortcut on the buttons (which suck and aren't like those on the originals).  As far as I know they don't have any and are shady to do business with these days.  There's a guy on the New Rhodesian Forum who did a run or two of Rhodie camouflage and I heard it was very accurate, and he took apart originals and examined their colouring directly in order to make the uniforms.  I think there's another guy intending to make a similar run soon.  There's another company that started to make them, but I don't know how accurate they are going to be.  Most stuff tends to either use incorrect colours, an inaccurate pattern, an incorrect cut for the uniforms (and sometimes shoddy work and materials), or some combination thereof.  There is also stuff meant to look kind of like it but that isn't correct, as well as some similar patterns that are incorrectly advertised as Rhodesian (such as one of the Pakistani patterns).  Zimbabwe's current uniforms are off on the colours and slightly off on the pattern, and the cut of the uniforms is slightly different as well.  Not the most readily available uniform items to acquire (although Zimbabwe is also reissuing old Rhodesian stock uniforms as well).

I personally would also like to see the dry season version and perhaps something for wetter seasons, using the colour change used by Zimbabwe, which in the early '80s retained the colours of Rhodesian camo and just changed to a lizard-stripe pattern.  Their dry season camo used the Rhodesian colours while their wet season was green dominant by replacing the khaki background with a pale green one.  On the Rhodesian dry season, the green parts of the standard pattern were replaced by a yellow-ish colour similar to that of dead grass; a pic of it was posted earlier in the thread.
Link Posted: 8/27/2014 9:03:52 PM EST
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Great pics!

I wear what some would call "nut huggers" quite a bit. Even in the woods, but not while sawing. They're from Cabelas and I believe they're called safari shorts or hiking shorts. I like the 5.5" inseam much better than the ghetto shorts hanging below the knee. Capstick used to wear shorts exclusively as well and even wrote some on the reasoning. If I had some time I'd look it up.
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I would really appreciate it.
Do you remember what book it was in?
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I would really appreciate it.
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Great pics!

I wear what some would call "nut huggers" quite a bit. Even in the woods, but not while sawing. They're from Cabelas and I believe they're called safari shorts or hiking shorts. I like the 5.5" inseam much better than the ghetto shorts hanging below the knee. Capstick used to wear shorts exclusively as well and even wrote some on the reasoning. If I had some time I'd look it up.



I would really appreciate it.
Do you remember what book it was in?


I recall something about it in his first book, Death in the Long Grass.
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Great pics!

I wear what some would call "nut huggers" quite a bit. Even in the woods, but not while sawing. They're from Cabelas and I believe they're called safari shorts or hiking shorts. I like the 5.5" inseam much better than the ghetto shorts hanging below the knee. Capstick used to wear shorts exclusively as well and even wrote some on the reasoning. If I had some time I'd look it up.



I would really appreciate it.
Do you remember what book it was in?


I recall something about it in his first book, Death in the Long Grass.



I have that, somewhere. Now to search the stacks.
Link Posted: 8/28/2014 3:25:43 AM EST
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This thread is also going to cost me a lot of money. Found a bunch of books on Amazon.com to buy and/or look for.

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Link Posted: 8/28/2014 6:39:45 AM EST
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It is substantially cooler today in Zimbabwe than my home.  

high 84 overnight 54
Link Posted: 8/28/2014 8:25:29 AM EST
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I've met David Scott Donelan, attended one of the TTOS schools when he was the CEO.  You've never lived until you break bread at the Cracker Barrel wit ha member of the Selous Scouts.  His book "Tactical Tracking Operations" centers on the fundamentals of combat tracking, but it also contains a lot of his stories.
Link Posted: 8/28/2014 7:43:30 PM EST
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Sadly a deact but real FMP G3 kits with Rhodie history do exist

 
Link Posted: 8/29/2014 12:37:49 AM EST
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Wow, never even heard about this war! I have a lot to read about.
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Heretic

I bet you've never seen The Wild Geese !
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I realized I don't know much about this war.

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Same here, very interesting stuff tho.
Link Posted: 8/29/2014 7:25:27 AM EST
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Man I should get that it would give people instant aneurysms over here.
Link Posted: 8/29/2014 11:19:33 AM EST
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Third photo down, on the firing range- two lefties in that lineup. must be an above average group.
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So where does one get this.
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This. I already like to rile up the local hippies with my IDF T-shirt, but this would make a nice addition.

 
Link Posted: 8/29/2014 1:07:30 PM EST
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Where is the link?!
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Pretty powerful lyrics "We all felt Rhodesia's youth ebbing away.....leopard crawling in the dust and thorns.






Link Posted: 8/29/2014 3:27:55 PM EST
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Where is the link?!
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Where is the link?!


http://pbestore.storenvy.com/products/128757-slotting-floppies-t-shirt

Link Posted: 8/29/2014 11:37:23 PM EST
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Oh and just for reference the term floppies is in reference to the terrorists sandals.

 
Link Posted: 8/30/2014 11:51:51 AM EST
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Where is the link?!


http://pbestore.storenvy.com/products/128757-slotting-floppies-t-shirt

Oh and just for reference the term floppies is in reference to the terrorists sandals.  


To the terrorists themselves, actually.  They would flop down on the ground when shot at.
Link Posted: 8/30/2014 12:01:09 PM EST
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This thread is also going to cost me a lot of money. Found a bunch of books on Amazon.com to buy and/or look for.

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same here.  I found 4 crystal balls, I mean paperback editions that look good.

http://www.amazon.com/Fireforce-Mans-Rhodesian-Light-Infantry-ebook/product-reviews/B009K7LQ0W/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007QXJ17M/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=33I7HA07VN983&coliid=I3JUM35DT97EUV

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D0K3G30/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=33I7HA07VN983&coliid=I36S5OYCI2LSEV

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GHNF0K4/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=33I7HA07VN983&coliid=I2QKOAKNCLPWC7
Link Posted: 8/30/2014 12:03:02 PM EST
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So whats with the shorty-shorts ?  I'd think the last thing you'd want to wear when walking through the bush is shorts...
Link Posted: 8/30/2014 1:09:37 PM EST
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This thread needs more pics

Rhodie armor

Rhodie T55 captured from a shipment to Mozambique I think


Panhards AML 90s, or the South African copy of it




Does this count as armor?



Link Posted: 8/30/2014 1:18:47 PM EST
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Airborne stick getting ready to enplane- This was the other side of the fire-force equation.  This anvil to the heliborne hammer



In Rhodesia even when you were off duty you were still on duty


No matter how old you were


SOF gonzo journalism in action
Link Posted: 8/30/2014 2:10:29 PM EST
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An interesting story to add to this from my mums time in Zambia. When she was a kid her and her friends would play along a rural road close to where my mum lived. There was a training camp for terrorists(Not sure if it was ZAPU but judging from the research I've done it's most likely ZAPU under Joshua Nkomo) It could have been earlier then that. There was a make shift guard post and any time they got too close the guard in question would look at them rather angrily and shew them away.









She had some friends who served in the army who died along the Zambezi Valley in the late 60's(69 I believe)










I've asked her about Zambia's involvement with the conflict against Rhodesia and her answer was simply that "Even if not directly involved they had to help their African brothers in arms(Hence training camps)......It was just the thinking." Zambia as a whole at least when she was there for the most part was very peaceful.



















 
Link Posted: 8/30/2014 4:52:50 PM EST
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I think HST would approve. He did like guns after all.
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That is a pretty cool pic
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This one was posted on the FAL Files a little bit ago today. Honestly at first glance I thought it was the real deal.
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A few more photos he posted. I'm in love with this one
Link Posted: 8/31/2014 3:42:51 PM EST
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That FAL makes my pants tight.

 



My conversion to FAL rifles took place when I lived in South Africa.  

Link Posted: 8/31/2014 3:48:53 PM EST
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If you don't pause to think about what it means.  But, I have an AR for my son for when we have to do that.
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Been thrown down the driveway a few times
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If you don't pause to think about what it means.  But, I have an AR for my son for when we have to do that.
Well I mean look at this photo.

 









I'm a great believer in training your kids in firearm safety. My mother was in the Zambian Police Rifle Pistol club. She was the one who taught me how to shoot.
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That FAL makes my pants tight.  



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I've noticed a lot of the love of the FN as far as Africa comes out of South Africa. Daniel from DSA is former South African Army.  He's been a wealth of info on the subject.

 
Link Posted: 8/31/2014 5:38:38 PM EST
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More.

This makes me want a land rover and fal really baldly.
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Both a sad and inspiring story. Rhodesia was the best thing to ever happen to Africa.
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HiramRanger and anbbna, you've got mail.


Rhodesia: Tactical Victory, Strategic Defeat Pretty solid report from the Marine Corps Command and Staff College.

"Tropes of the Cold War: Jimmy Carter and Rhodesia" is a really good read that I have saved on my computer but can't find a free version online.

I also just found this rather scathing read, "DID JIMMY CARTER’S CIA STING DESTROY A COLD WAR ALLY?"
Link Posted: 8/31/2014 8:35:37 PM EST
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If you don't pause to think about what it means.  But, I have an AR for my son for when we have to do that.

Yeah.
That scares the shit out of me.
God help us.
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Yeah.

That scares the shit out of me.

God help us.
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If you don't pause to think about what it means.  But, I have an AR for my son for when we have to do that.


Yeah.

That scares the shit out of me.

God help us.
My cousin's husband's father was told to get out or they would be shot and their women raped after Mugabe took power.  This was after they had raped, mutilated, and killed the black tenant farmers on their farm who had the audacity to work with and care for white folks.  



They could only take with them 5,000£ in gold when they left.  There was a massive farm worth a x1000 that left behind, stolen and shat upon by the bloody kaffirs.  I'm sure its weeds or a cemetery by now.  I've heard those stories from those final days of Rhodesia and then I get this weird twitch when I see and hear those rioters speak in Fergidishu.  Its the same old redistribution of wealth, communist style wearing the cloak of racial justice.



I hope I didn't ruin this thread by making it political, but damn, I get so angry knowing what once was and how great things used to be in the land of the Fire Lily.  And I will guarantee that 99% of those black Rhodesian were better off under Smith and minority rule.



 
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My cousin's husband's father was told to get out or they would be shot and their women raped after Mugabe took power.  This was after they had raped, mutilated, and killed the black tenant farmers on their farm who had the audacity to work with and care for white folks.  



They could only take with them 5,000£ in gold when they left.  There was a massive farm worth a x1000 that left behind, stolen and shat upon by the bloody kaffirs.  I'm sure its weeds or a cemetery by now.  I've heard those stories from those final days of Rhodesia and then I get this weird twitch when I see and hear those rioters speak in Fergidishu.  Its the same old redistribution of wealth, communist style wearing the cloak of racial justice.



I hope I didn't ruin this thread by making it political, but damn, I get so angry knowing what once was and how great things used to be in the land of the Fire Lily.  And I will guarantee that 99% of those black Rhodesian were better off under Smith and minority rule.

 
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If you don't pause to think about what it means.  But, I have an AR for my son for when we have to do that.


Yeah.

That scares the shit out of me.

God help us.
My cousin's husband's father was told to get out or they would be shot and their women raped after Mugabe took power.  This was after they had raped, mutilated, and killed the black tenant farmers on their farm who had the audacity to work with and care for white folks.  



They could only take with them 5,000£ in gold when they left.  There was a massive farm worth a x1000 that left behind, stolen and shat upon by the bloody kaffirs.  I'm sure its weeds or a cemetery by now.  I've heard those stories from those final days of Rhodesia and then I get this weird twitch when I see and hear those rioters speak in Fergidishu.  Its the same old redistribution of wealth, communist style wearing the cloak of racial justice.



I hope I didn't ruin this thread by making it political, but damn, I get so angry knowing what once was and how great things used to be in the land of the Fire Lily.  And I will guarantee that 99% of those black Rhodesian were better off under Smith and minority rule.

 
No bru thank you for adding your story to this.

 
Link Posted: 8/31/2014 9:39:59 PM EST
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Weird lookin helicopter.

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It's a Gazelle isn't it?
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Weird lookin helicopter.



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It's a Gazelle isn't it?

It's called a Cheetah (South African variant of the Alouette helicopter)

 
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My cousin's husband's father was told to get out or they would be shot and their women raped after Mugabe took power.  This was after they had raped, mutilated, and killed the black tenant farmers on their farm who had the audacity to work with and care for white folks.  



They could only take with them 5,000£ in gold when they left.  There was a massive farm worth a x1000 that left behind, stolen and shat upon by the bloody kaffirs.  I'm sure its weeds or a cemetery by now.  I've heard those stories from those final days of Rhodesia and then I get this weird twitch when I see and hear those rioters speak in Fergidishu.  Its the same old redistribution of wealth, communist style wearing the cloak of racial justice.



I hope I didn't ruin this thread by making it political, but damn, I get so angry knowing what once was and how great things used to be in the land of the Fire Lily.  And I will guarantee that 99% of those black Rhodesian were better off under Smith and minority rule.

 
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If you don't pause to think about what it means.  But, I have an AR for my son for when we have to do that.


Yeah.

That scares the shit out of me.

God help us.
My cousin's husband's father was told to get out or they would be shot and their women raped after Mugabe took power.  This was after they had raped, mutilated, and killed the black tenant farmers on their farm who had the audacity to work with and care for white folks.  



They could only take with them 5,000£ in gold when they left.  There was a massive farm worth a x1000 that left behind, stolen and shat upon by the bloody kaffirs.  I'm sure its weeds or a cemetery by now.  I've heard those stories from those final days of Rhodesia and then I get this weird twitch when I see and hear those rioters speak in Fergidishu.  Its the same old redistribution of wealth, communist style wearing the cloak of racial justice.



I hope I didn't ruin this thread by making it political, but damn, I get so angry knowing what once was and how great things used to be in the land of the Fire Lily.  And I will guarantee that 99% of those black Rhodesian were better off under Smith and minority rule.

 
As I've stated earlier in this thread my families connection to Rhodesia

 



My mother grew up in Lusaka Zambia formally Northern Rhodesia before independence. Not too far from where her and her friends would play there was a terrorist training camp. The general attitude was "You leave them alone they leave you alone." They got too close one time and got scared off by a terrorist guard. She lost some very close friends along the Zambezi Valley who were in the RLI in the late 60's.




She lived in Zambia till the late 70's.  
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How could the USA look at what the Soviets were throwing into that fight and not be at all concerned?  I mean you'd think at least the CIA would have helped them out through third parties like the South Africans or something.

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