Anyone who claims that Rudy or Romney are not, and have not been anti-gun is either turning a blind eye or dumb. |
This....
So which is it? He can't claim to NOT knowing about Mitt's previous stances...and then say he's been working closely with Mitt and that he knows about Mitt's previous gun-banning tendencies. He's now lying and attempting to have it both ways. In this age, the information age where the internet provides instant communication and the ability to save said information, you cannot do what he is doing and get away with it. |
![]() Post count: 1 The guy with the troll account talks about someone standing up for what he believes in
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To me this is not about protecting our beloved assault rifles, but about how this presidential candidate interprets the Constitution. To me, any candidate who equates the 2nd Amendment with "your right to hunt" has a flawed understanding of the intentions of the framers of the Constitution, and is in fact is NOT the most qualified for the office. If a candidate fails to understand why the 2nd Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights, then that candidate is disqualified, in my opinion. It is also a matter of trust. I can not trust a person to hold the highest elected office in this country if that person does not trust me and my fellow citizens to be well armed. I will not vote for a candidate who fears an armed population, regardless of the stated reasons for that fear, which in Mr. Romney's case is an apparent belief in an exaggerated, over-sensationalized, statistically non-existent problem. |
Because Romney was either lying then or he will be lying now if he tells Alex that he will not ban assault weapons. Only a fool would believe him if Romney reversed himself now. |
BWAHAHAHA. Whose troll account is this??? |
what were his two other accounts? anyone famous? |
Exactly. |
It is his right to make the decision. It is his right to announce his decision to the world. It is my right to denounce his decision as folly. It is my right to say I will not being doing business with someone who makes such decisions. Just because you cant bring the bullet back does not mean you should not be held accountable for what that bullet does. |
Yes, it is his company. However, we are a collective pool of potential customers for him. Poisoning one's relation with potential customers is never a good idea. When he posted his support officially on his company's website, and also in the industry forum, he pulled politics and business together. When a business owner does that he has to be prepared to face the consequences, good or bad. |
+1 No one is saying he should be fined or imprisoned or executed; of course he has the right. All we're saying is that we are shocked at what we are seeing. |
now that is funny right there. |
And you seem to have missed THAT.
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Please...$10 and a dream
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His "clear cut" statement on the 2A involved an AWB and "no guns for the crazies". |
I'm not saying that either one hasn't been, or even that they aren't now. However, if someone has a change of heart and publicly says so, why should it be automatically discounted? I used to be pro-choice, pro-AWB, pro-big government. Then I woke up. What if, just perhaps, Romney has had a similar awakening since MA, and Robinson knows about it? If he HASN'T, of course, then Robinson is wrong (and will presumably withdraw the endorsement), and Romney can go spit. |
lol did you miss the meet the press video? would someone be kind enough to re-link it again so zaphod can watch it? |
Yeah, he made a clear cut statement on the second ammendment alright. You did see the "Meet the Press" interview? Pretty clear cut to me. |
You don't have clean hands. Mountain Meadows Massacre |
Unfortunately, his actions have spoken for him. WHY would anyone be willing to take the chance that he MAY have had a change of heart? |
And you seem to have missed precisely what Mitt's "clear cut statment" was: Watch from 1:00 to 2:00 and see what Mitt said TWO WEEKS AGO |
Sorry, Gobby, but I don't do YouTube at work. Please enlighten me. Facts are facts. I'll listen. |
The facts could not be any clearer... Romney IS a gun grabber, period. The only thing worse here, is that Robarms KNOWS this, and supports him anyway. |
Are you really willing to take that gamble with your rights and our country's future that Romney isn't just pandering and that he has really had some sort of an epiphany? Would you believe Hillary if she had the same epiphany at election time too? |
I would be more willing to believe Romney than Hillary. I would still prefer Romney to Hillary. Doesn't mean Romney is the best or favorite choice, either. |
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924/page/5/ |
Mitt says on "Meet the Press" that he supported the original AWB, that he supported GWB's position on reauthorizing the AWB (and that he would sign a new AWB), that he has a clear record of supporting gun owner rights while governor of MA ( ), and that he would support any new efforts to ban firearms if they were deemed too dangerous.National television. Two weeks ago. You can't get any more clear-cut than that. |
"Weapons of unusual lethality" is what the catchphrase will be for the next assault weapon ban with this slimy douchebag in the White House. Does ANYONE doubt that? |
Not me |
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Oh, dear..... THAT was said just two weeks ago? My, my, my...... we ARE fooked. Well, there's the facts..... Thanks. ETA: Yeah, I chaffed at the "unusual lethality" phrase, too. You mean there's such a thing as "usual" lethality? ![]() I wish Thompson would get off his ass and run like he meant it. |
Honestly, that's ridiculous. I'm well acquainted with Mormon history, but injecting that into this discussion serves no purpose other than flat out Mormon bashing. Totally unnecessary.
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none who remember the past doubt it. |
Why do you give Romney the benefit of the doubt when it comes to "waking up" just as you did over Hillary doing the same thing? They are really the same candidate imo. Willing to say whatever it takes to get elected because all they want is the power that comes with the office. |
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It's also very important to note that this is the interview where Romney apparently BLATANTLY LIES about the NRA supporting him in his last election. If you listen, he claims that the NRA supported him. But they did not. When he is put on the spot, this guy will lie. |
Yup. They might as well endorse Hitlery. Atleast we'll get heath care.
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Whoa, not good. |
I posted the transcript above in case you guys missed it. |
His dad marched with King too... IF he could have been at two places at once that is... |
+1 However, let's remember that our focus is on Robarms right now, not Romney. |
Exactly. There is simply no doubt that an AR15 or AK type rifle (or anything that has a military look to it and a detatchable magazine and pistol grip) will be described as a firearm of "unusual lethality" (since nobody NEEDS that much firepower, right?) - and hunting rifles and shotguns will be described as "acceptable" firearms. ![]() He's basically describing how he is 100% behind an assault weapon ban, but using political double-speak to do it. |
If they "change their mind" for that purpose, I agree. If they REALLY change it, then why not? I've changed my position on many things, only I've done so legitimately. I don't believe Hillary believes in anything but herself. I don't know Romney that well, however, and am at least willing to entertain the thought. However, if he said what he said just that recently, then he's obviously hedging. |
Dont worry Mitt'll give us health care too, He used to brag about the Massachusetts health care plan he signed... |
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You wont get a straight answer from Rommney. Every single time I emailed him through his site about specifics concerning 2A support, specifically military type rifles I got a message saying there was an error sending the message I tried 4 more time over a month + and always got the same response |
bzzzt DOES NOT COMPUTE |
Yeah, he didn't LITERALLY march with King. Sure, it may have sounded that way when he said "My father marched with King" but, um, it sure made black people and liberals feel good for a minute, didn't it. Isn't that what's really important? In a pit full of slimy pieces of shit, Romney would be the slimiest. |
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