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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:18:02 PM EDT
Putin's junkyard war machines: Russia 'deploys 1,500 rusting mothballed tanks from Siberian dump' after suffering huge losses in Ukraine
Among the old tanks are T-62s, produced up to 1975, and T-55 and T-54 models Decision to take tanks out of storage comes amid Russia's significant losses to its military hardware, with low estimates suggesting Putin has lost over 2,200 tanks  Some 1,570 rusting war machines have been moved from their Siberian dump and restored to service for the Russian president's war against Ukraine, say reports  Video footage (pictured) has shown repurposed T-54 and T-55 tanks being transported across Russia as Moscow's forces seek reinforcements after suffering massive hardware losses   https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12388039/Russia-deploys-Soviet-mothballed-tanks-dump.html |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:26:19 PM EDT
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Lol.
I enjoy seeing this. This war is the only worthwhile thing my tax dollars have been spent on since I was 18. I'm in my mid 40s now. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:28:47 PM EDT
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Yeah, Russia is out of tanks, they're out of missiles, they're out of artillery, they can't make drones because they can't get components, the sanctions have crippled their economy, most of their army has been killed, Ukraine's Spring offensive is going to take Crimea, and the revolt will depose Putin. Looks like Russia will fold any day now.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:29:11 PM EDT
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From what I'm reading, a lot of these are being used as improvised artillery, rather than normal combat use.
The T-62s have been seeing action for a bit though, Oryx has 80 confirmed captured or destroyed. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:29:32 PM EDT
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These tanks have been a mix of completely functional vehicles to partially complete vehicles.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:32:13 PM EDT
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First confirmed t-55 kill in Ukraine that I've seen was a couple days ago.
Keep moving backwards and we might be able to use 50bmg as an anti tank weapon again. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I'm reading, a lot of these are being used as improvised artillery, rather than normal combat use. The T-62s have been seeing action for a bit though, Oryx has 80 confirmed captured or destroyed. Wild |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:33:48 PM EDT
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The T-54's & T-55's were being knocked out by LAW's anti-tank rockets to the rear engine deck at An Loc, Vietnam in 1972. Not a great weapon.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:34:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. I enjoy seeing this. This war is the only worthwhile thing my tax dollars have been spent on since I was 18. I'm in my mid 40s now. Hmmm I mean our military has some cool stuff too. But I guess this is better somehow. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:34:30 PM EDT
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It keeps up, Putin will be digging up WW2 T34s next.....
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:34:41 PM EDT
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I enjoy seeing these things get rebuilt in a sick way.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, Russia is out of tanks, they're out of missiles, they're out of artillery, they can't make drones because they can't get components, the sanctions have crippled their economy, most of their army has been killed, Ukraine's Spring offensive is going to take Crimea, and the revolt will depose Putin. Looks like Russia will fold any day now. I don't think anyone thinks Russia will fold any day. But using T-55s & 54s isn't what I would consider a measure of success. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:37:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, Russia is out of tanks, they're out of missiles, they're out of artillery, they can't make drones because they can't get components, the sanctions have crippled their economy, most of their army has been killed, Ukraine's Spring offensive is going to take Crimea, and the revolt will depose Putin. Looks like Russia will fold any day now. Yeah, that worked out so well for Afghanistan, Iraq, et al.... |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:37:20 PM EDT
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Why not use them - they have plenty of oil.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:37:57 PM EDT
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I would rather have 1500 old tanks than no tanks.
Imagine if NATO could have provided 1500 mbts to the ukrs. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:38:56 PM EDT
[#15]
And yet the meat grinder to attrition continues.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:40:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The T-54's & T-55's were being knocked out by LAW's anti-tank rockets to the rear engine deck at An Loc, Vietnam in 1972. Not a great weapon. Straight from the man that has seen the elephant. Loved your video interview BTW! |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:41:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm I mean our military has some cool stuff too. But I guess this is better somehow. I don't disagree there. I support our military spending for the most part. Wasting our equipment and lives in the mid east is something I don't really support. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:42:57 PM EDT
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Why Tanks?
The Taliban didn't need tanks to win. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:44:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would rather have 1500 old tanks than no tanks. Imagine if NATO could have provided 1500 mbts to the ukrs. Imagine if the proxy war between NATO and Russia became less "by proxy." |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:46:20 PM EDT
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Wonder if the T-55s are still the old 100mm gun or did they up them to 120mms? Doesn't matter if they have a better gun, I'd imagine they still have shit fire control and would be outgunned at range by western tanks/drones.
Does the modern Russian army use tanks as smash and penetrate in homogenous corps (Soviet era doctrine), or do they use them as infantry support in mixed units? Think the T55 would be decent in the latter role, provided the infantry can keep ATGMs off them. The tank in your pocket is better than the artillery you left at home, lol. I can't see the Russians coordinating that well though. 
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:50:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine if the proxy war between NATO and Russia became less "by proxy." And we would will all lose. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:52:59 PM EDT
[#22]
Ammo is old -
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Posted: 8/9/2023 1:55:54 PM EDT
[#23]
I can just imagine some poorly stored 100mm HE rounds. Nice.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:00:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:00:02 PM EDT
[#25]
Isn't that old news?
They have huge supply of them and might as well use them for training and crappy mobile arty. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:04:41 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I'm reading, a lot of these are being used as improvised artillery, rather than normal combat use. The T-62s have been seeing action for a bit though, Oryx has 80 confirmed captured or destroyed. The Ukrainians have been knocking the piss out of Russian artillery and ammo dumps, they've gone from a crippling 20-to-1 disadvantage in artillery fire to parity to the Russians crying about being at a 2-to-1 disadvantage or worse. Despite all the (legitimately concerning) talk about constrained NATO 155mm production it smells like Russia is maxxed out first. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:07:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't that old news? They have huge supply of them and might as well use them for training and crappy mobile arty. Yes.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:08:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:11:20 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm waiting for Russia to deploy horses so that We can supply the Ukes with superior western horses.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:11:51 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, Russia is out of tanks, they're out of missiles, they're out of artillery, they can't make drones because they can't get components, the sanctions have crippled their economy, most of their army has been killed, Ukraine's Spring offensive is going to take Crimea, and the revolt will depose Putin. Looks like Russia will fold any day now.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:12:39 PM EDT
[#31]
This is unfortunate, as I had hoped to buy a couple of each model at the gun show when they were dumped on the US market.
Now they are getting destroyed. 
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:13:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would rather have 1500 old tanks than no tanks. Imagine if NATO could have provided 1500 mbts to the ukrs. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:13:37 PM EDT
[#33]
Just an observation, but did anyone ever wonder why the armies in the Book of Revelation are on horseback? Food for thought.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:14:48 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine if the proxy war between NATO and Russia became less "by proxy." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would rather have 1500 old tanks than no tanks. Imagine if NATO could have provided 1500 mbts to the ukrs. Imagine if the proxy war between NATO and Russia became less "by proxy." |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:18:59 PM EDT
[#35]
Probably has something to do with being able to regenerate a T-55 or T-62 a lot faster than a more modern tank with modern fire control systems…
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:19:10 PM EDT
[#36]
How the mighty fall. The soviet union was a military super power that devoted 50% of its gdp to arms manufacturing. Practically giving arms away to its allies. Now the russians are reduced to begging ammo from tiny little north korea and drones from iran. Now they are scraping the barrel for obsolete tanks.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:22:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: Putin's junkyard war machines: Russia 'deploys 1,500 rusting mothballed tanks from Siberian dump' after suffering huge losses in Ukraine Among the old tanks are T-62s, produced up to 1975, and T-55 and T-54 models Decision to take tanks out of storage comes amid Russia's significant losses to its military hardware, with low estimates suggesting Putin has lost over 2,200 tanks https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/09/07/74114801-12388039-image-a-2_1691563589988.jpg Some 1,570 rusting war machines have been moved from their Siberian dump and restored to service for the Russian president's war against Ukraine, say reports https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/09/07/74114805-12388039-image-a-3_1691563593285.jpg Video footage (pictured) has shown repurposed T-54 and T-55 tanks being transported across Russia as Moscow's forces seek reinforcements after suffering massive hardware losses https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/09/07/68992075-12388039-T_54_T_55-a-6_1691563801564.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/09/07/68992091-12388039-T_62-a-7_1691563801608.jpg https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12388039/Russia-deploys-Soviet-mothballed-tanks-dump.html It's ogre....two more weeks fellas! Ukrainians repurpose old equipment: INGENUITY ON THE BATTLEFIELD! BRAVE and STUNNING Ukrainian fighters turn tractor and maxim gun into a FEARSOME vehicle for the BATTLEFIELD. Russians repurpose old equipment: OMG LOL WOW THEY ARE SO STOOPID OMG ITS OVER, CANT BELIEVE THEY ARE SO DUMBN!!!!! |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:23:30 PM EDT
[#38]
With how fast Ukraine has been blowing them up with western anti-tank rockets and drones why?
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:27:18 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just an observation, but did anyone ever wonder why the armies in the Book of Revelation are on horseback? Food for thought. Because the people who wrote the story had no concept mechanized warfare? |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:29:32 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because the people who wrote the story had no concept mechanized warfare? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just an observation, but did anyone ever wonder why the armies in the Book of Revelation are on horseback? Food for thought. Because the people who wrote the story had no concept mechanized warfare? Or is that after decades of wars and rumors of wars all the cool mechanized military equipment is used up and couldn't be replaced? |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I expect a major reason for reactivating the antiques is they're armed in a different caliber (100mm, 115mm) than the modern tanks (125mm), and that they've burned through most of their 125mm and want to be able to tap into ye olde ammunition stockpiles. The Ukrainians have been knocking the piss out of Russian artillery and ammo dumps, they've gone from a crippling 20-to-1 disadvantage in artillery fire to parity to the Russians crying about being at a 2-to-1 disadvantage or worse. Despite all the (legitimately concerning) talk about constrained NATO 155mm production it smells like Russia is maxxed out first. It seems like it smells like it may be possible that maybe..... |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:34:56 PM EDT
[#42]
I don't know why anyone would be fielding tier 1 battle tanks in this kind of war. Drones, arty and missiles seem to rule the day. The more expensive the tank, the more money you might be spending on a speed bump. I don't think either side has had luck with tanks when both sides have gone so heavy on mines and scatter artillery munitions. Neither side seems to be throwing 50 tanks in a push to blitzkrieg anyone. Seems to me they are trying to limit the equipment damage as it isn't near as effective with today's tech. I would not want to be a tanker on either side in this conflict. Being a grunt wouldn't be much better.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:39:41 PM EDT
[#43]
I wouldn't even put in an EE offer.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:40:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If NATO got directly involved the war would be over inside a week and Ukraine would have Crimea back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would rather have 1500 old tanks than no tanks. Imagine if NATO could have provided 1500 mbts to the ukrs. Imagine if the proxy war between NATO and Russia became less "by proxy." That isn’t the goal. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:42:34 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's ogre....two more weeks fellas! Ukrainians repurpose old equipment: INGENUITY ON THE BATTLEFIELD! BRAVE and STUNNING Ukrainian fighters turn tractor and maxim gun into a FEARSOME vehicle for the BATTLEFIELD. Russians repurpose old equipment: OMG LOL WOW THEY ARE SO STOOPID OMG ITS OVER, CANT BELIEVE THEY ARE SO DUMBN!!!!! We don’t make fun of David for having a sling but we would make fun of Goliath if he did. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:43:11 PM EDT
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GET RID OF THE A-10, IT CAN'T KILL MODERN TANKS!!!!!!!
But it can kill the old shit it was originally supposed to kill, so it's a win! If A-10s ever need to go against Russia, of course. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:43:19 PM EDT
[#47]
Don't see why not, it doesn't appear to matter if it's a 70yr old tank or a fresh one off the line, something is eventually going to poke a hole in it.
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:44:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If NATO got directly involved the war would be over inside a week and Ukraine would have Crimea back. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:50:41 PM EDT
[#49]
LOL
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Posted: 8/9/2023 2:56:14 PM EDT
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