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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:05:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, you think the Russians will be able to conduct an assault across the Dnipro to retake Kherson? Fascinating...  Im not some military tactical, but holy crap some of the post here are double facepalm worthy. Re: who you quoted |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:06:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They had control of the physical missiles which meant they could make them work. Ukraine built the an225, sukhois, and other advanced projects. Reversing a nuke is within the realm of possibility Quote HistoryQuoted: They had control of the physical missiles which meant they could make them work. Ukraine built the an225, sukhois, and other advanced projects. Reversing a nuke is within the realm of possibility Formally, these weapons were controlled by the Commonwealth of Independent States specifically by Russia that had the launch sequence and operational control of the nuclear warheads and its weapons system. In 1994, Ukraine, citing due its inability to circumvent Russian launch codes, reached an understanding to transfer and destroy these weapons, and become a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:08:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you think the Ukrainians will be able to hold the city when even Russian mortars can easily shell them from across the Dniper? Interesting.... |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone who (this time last year) didn’t trust anything the Dems, most RINO’s, Globalists, the WEF, the MSM/corporate media and social media said, suddenly believed it ALL once Russia invaded Ukraine. It’s like magic ‘cause Commies gettin’ killed!’. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You guys are still paying attention to the media rather than front line video and .mil reports? Everyone who (this time last year) didn’t trust anything the Dems, most RINO’s, Globalists, the WEF, the MSM/corporate media and social media said, suddenly believed it ALL once Russia invaded Ukraine. It’s like magic ‘cause Commies gettin’ killed!’.  Attached File Attached FileThey're back on the plantation. @AA717driver |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:09:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/doubleFacePalm-26.jpg Im not some military tactical, but holy crap some of the post here are double facepalm worthy. Re: who you quoted If the Ukrainians could hold Kherson, then why did they evacuate the city? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: knowing the Soviet doctrine of massed artillery fires, the claim that they're running out of ammo is highly unlikely. They ratfuck ammo and equipment away like noone else on this globe, and they've not massed their fires yet that I've seen. Fuck Russia twice for invading, Fuck NATO for encroaching on Russia, Fuck Europe for having us fight their wars, again and Fuck Ukraine for being a corrupt as fuck money laundering operation.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:12:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you think the Ukrainians will be able to hold the city when even Russian mortars can easily shell them from across the Dniper? Interesting.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, you think the Russians will be able to conduct an assault across the Dnipro to retake Kherson? Fascinating... They'll shell them from the left bank of the Dnipro, sure. They won't successfully attempt to assault and retake Kherson. Of that much, I'm certain. The Russians were able to take Kherson in the first place due to treason on the Ukrainian side and the fact that the Ukrainians failed to blow the bridges. This time around, the Russians actually blew up the bridges near Kherson on their way out, which indicates that they have no intentions of coming back whatsoever. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:13:20 PM EDT
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If true, seems like a potential exploit to Eldest Son mission to destroy some artillery.
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:13:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The one area they are clearly short on is artillery at the front. They were advancing over the summer using massed fires. Logistics went to shit. The volume of fire has been noticeably down for many months now. Russian .mil sources from top to bottom (well, middle to bottom ) bitch about it. Ukraine claims it, western sources claim it. Is the shortage at the front exacerbated by an overall shortage? Junk stockpiles maybe? Who knows. But anecdotal evidence seems to lean to an acute shortage at the front being exacerbated by potential overall stockpile issues. They really were firing at crazy rates from April-July or so from everything I recall. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:15:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some truth to all of that, but they'd always exported munitions as a part of their national strategy. The kinds of munitions they seem to be short on are not the basics. The cornerstone of their warfighting doctrine has always called for massed artillery fires, and they've always had the deep stocks of both artillery and ammo. They have not ever had deep stocks on anything considered "smart". Their supplies are not endless, and neither are ours. The ones they are short on are the basics, your 152 and 122mm artillery projectiles. They lost huge amounts in balakliya, kupyansk, and Lyman that are being used to hit them now. Himars is not helping either. That’s evident by hearing Russians complain about a lack of artillery |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:15:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain how Kherson will be anything more than a no-man's land with hundreds of Russian artillery tubes on the high ground across the river? I'm all ears here. If the Ukrainians could hold Kherson, then why did they evacuate the city? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/doubleFacePalm-26.jpg Im not some military tactical, but holy crap some of the post here are double facepalm worthy. Re: who you quoted If the Ukrainians could hold Kherson, then why did they evacuate the city? Let's check back in a few months from now and see who has been proven correct. Given your track record of arguing that the Ukrainians would be unable to consolidate their gains in Kharkiv and would be unable to take Kherson, I think I have a pretty good idea of how this is going to go. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:16:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you think the Ukrainians will be able to hold the city when even Russian mortars can easily shell them from across the Dniper? Interesting.... Are you saying Russia can cross the Dnipro and push the ukrainain back? Russia can’t even take bakhmut. They can’t. Worked cited: crack pipe @garandm1 |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:18:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you saying Russia can cross the Dnipro and push the ukrainain back? Russia can't even take bakhmut. They can't. Worked cited: crack pipe @garandm1 JFC, stop snorting the copium. Kherson is effectively a no-man's land; as long as Russia holds the other side of the river it is Ukrainian in name only. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:25:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's check back in a few months from now and see who has been proven correct. Given your track record of arguing that the Ukrainians would be unable to consolidate their gains in Kharkiv and would be unable to take Kherson, I think I have a pretty good idea of how this is going to go. Incidentally, how did those transformers in Lvov and Kiev get blown up yesterday? Someone using too much electricity? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:27:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once again, are you saying the Ukrainians will be able to do anything with the city either when Russia can flatten it at will? JFC, stop snorting the copium. Kherson is effectively a no-man's land; as long as Russia holds the other side of the river it is Ukrainian in name only. Who says Russia can flatten Kherson at will? Thread title shows that's improbable. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:28:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once again, are you saying the Ukrainians will be able to do anything with the city either when Russia can flatten it at will? JFC, stop snorting the copium. Kherson is effectively a no-man's land; as long as Russia holds the other side of the river it is Ukrainian in name only. So why haven't they flattened it? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:29:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who says Russia will hold the other side of the river? Who says Russia can flatten Kherson at will? Thread title shows that's improbable. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:29:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once again, are you saying the Ukrainians will be able to do anything with the city either when Russia can flatten it at will? JFC, stop snorting the copium. Kherson is effectively a no-man's land; as long as Russia holds the other side of the river it is Ukrainian in name only. like Russia is going to be able to hold that position indefinitely when they are loosing small bits on every other part of the front they have |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:31:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So why haven't they flattened it? Quote HistoryQuoted: So why haven't they flattened it? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/23/world/europe/russia-shelling-ukraine-kherson.html Russian forces shelled the southern Kherson region 61 times over the past 24 hours with rocket, artillery and mortar attacks, hitting schools and residential buildings, Yaroslav Yanushevych, the head of the military administration in the Kherson Province, said on Telegram in a morning post. A later post said shelling near the city center of Kherson had killed two people, though the timing was not clear. Last month, Russian troops withdrew from the city and since then have fired hundreds of shells at it from their new positions. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: like Russia is going to be able to hold that position indefinitely when they are loosing small bits on every other part of the front they have Look at the map: Russia holds the east bank, which is higher in elevation. The main crossing point, the Antonovsky Bridge, is no more. Please tell me how Ukrainian forces are going to cross that river in force and push them out of their positions. Retreating from Kherson was an embarrassment for Russia, given their position and vow to defend the city at all costs. But militarily it made sense; they can now shell the city all day long and aside from counterbattery fire there's nothing the Ukrainians can do to stop them. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:38:43 PM EDT
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The whole reason the Russians abandoned Kherson in the first place is because it is at the end of a single, long logistics line and having the Dnepr/Dnipro as a big moat in front of their troops instead of behind their troops. The Russian troops there are effectively cut off from being redeployed to the Donets or Luhansk anytime soon. By pulling back, the Russians can free up some troops for redeployment (though not soon given their WW1 logistics).
If the Russians want to move a bunch of guns and shells to the end of that long line, they're not only weakening their positions in the East; but they're building a big stockpile of equipment that is more exposed to being cut off. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:39:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/23/world/europe/russia-shelling-ukraine-kherson.html Looks like that's what they are doing.... Well it wasn't hard to get you to brag about literal Russian war crimes, lol. Doesn't sound like they're really flattening it. Sounds like they're wasting ammo they can't really afford to for basically tactical level cope and seethe. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:39:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: What a mess. Or maybe it's all propaganda. It wasn't all that long ago there was news that the US and NATO were running short. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:42:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well it wasn't hard to get you to brag about literal Russian war crimes, lol. Doesn't sound like they're really flattening it. Sounds like they're wasting ammo they can't really afford to for basically tactical level cope and seethe.  "Well, ackshually, if they haven't turned it into Dresden yet then it's not really flattened." And how is continuing to deny Ukraine total control of Kherson a waste of ammo? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:45:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are Russians consistently talking about artillery shortages? Why are Russians no longer firing 60k rounds per day and not advancing? @nomad07 what does reality matter? you only believe cia and kiev regime talking points...u ever ask zelensky if the cia and mi6 handlers take turns with their hands up his ass or is it just the same guy? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:45:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Well, ackshually, if they haven't turned it into Dresden yet then it's not really flattened." And how is continuing to deny Ukraine total control of Kherson a waste of ammo? Ukraine does have control of Kherson. There’s not a Russian soul in it right now. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:45:46 PM EDT
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What people fail to realize is that the Russians are NOT going to lose and when the finally get pushed in the corner someone is getting nuked. Even if they whack Putin themselves the next guy is not going to be the one who surrenders Russia to The West. That end game is certain.
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:45:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kherson,+Kherson+Oblast,+Ukraine,+73000/@46.6496688,32.53757,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x40c41aa25d9bf967:0xf3a5478c8e3121fe!8m2!3d46.6354115!4d32.6168633 Look at the map: Russia holds the east bank, which is higher in elevation. The main crossing point, the Antonovsky Bridge, is no more. Please tell me how Ukrainian forces are going to cross that river in force and push them out of their positions. Retreating from Kherson was an embarrassment for Russia, given their position and vow to defend the city at all costs. But militarily it made sense; they can now shell the city all day long and aside from counterbattery fire there's nothing the Ukrainians can do to stop them. There isn’t any other land mass to cross except right there? Go back to geography. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:46:57 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Once again, are you saying the Ukrainians will be able to do anything with the city either when Russia can flatten it at will? JFC, stop snorting the copium. Kherson is effectively a no-man's land; as long as Russia holds the other side of the river it is Ukrainian in name only. Why is Russia shelling a city they claim is “Russian”? Any why in hell did they shell a maternity ward? |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What people fail to realize is that the Russians are NOT going to lose and when the finally get pushed in the corner someone is getting nuked. Even if they whack Putin themselves the next guy is not going to be the one who surrenders Russia to The West. That end game is certain. Nobody is asking Russia be surrendered to anyone. Even the Ukrainians just want their own land back. There is zero existential threat to Russia. There's a substantial existential threat to Putin and his bootlickers; but that's not the same thing. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:52:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, given the track record of those who predicted Russia was running out of missiles back in March I'm not too worried. Incidentally, how did those transformers in Lvov and Kiev get blown up yesterday? Someone using too much electricity? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Let's check back in a few months from now and see who has been proven correct. Given your track record of arguing that the Ukrainians would be unable to consolidate their gains in Kharkiv and would be unable to take Kherson, I think I have a pretty good idea of how this is going to go. Incidentally, how did those transformers in Lvov and Kiev get blown up yesterday? Someone using too much electricity? "Running out" is not synonymous with "run out." Their stocks have no doubt been depleted significantly, hence why they're buying Shaheeds and attempting to buy SRBMs from Iran, and hence why a number of observers have noted that the Russians are dipping into stocks that they had set away for other contingencies. If we look at Russian SS26s as an example, the amount of them that the Russians are using has declined massively since the early stages of the war, which jives with estimates that they've used up about 80% of their stock and the fact that they're only able to produce ~ 6 per month. Overall, their behavior in terms of buying weapons from Iran, mixing in dummy/decoy missiles, etc. is completely consistent with the argument that they're running out(once again, not run out) out of missiles. Every time Russia launches some missiles at Ukrainian infrastructure, the Putin bots/anti-Western contrarians say something to degree of, "Wait, I thought the west said Russia is running out of missiles? See, they're full of shit! Wake up, sheeple!" It will never stop being moronic and intellectually dishonest. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:58:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kherson,+Kherson+Oblast,+Ukraine,+73000/@46.6496688,32.53757,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x40c41aa25d9bf967:0xf3a5478c8e3121fe!8m2!3d46.6354115!4d32.6168633 Look at the map: Russia holds the east bank, which is higher in elevation. The main crossing point, the Antonovsky Bridge, is no more. Please tell me how Ukrainian forces are going to cross that river in force and push them out of their positions. Retreating from Kherson was an embarrassment for Russia, given their position and vow to defend the city at all costs. But militarily it made sense; they can now shell the city all day long and aside from counterbattery fire there's nothing the Ukrainians can do to stop them. true it is a over the river fight which are quite tough, Dniprovska rail brige might still be up which would be plenty for ground troops and if thats gone and the area is too dug in you can always just go further east to Nova Kakhovka and try there instead im sure they will find a weak spot at sompoint |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:59:08 PM EDT
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Russia can’t level grid squares with massed artillery because they’ve run out of grid squares and have been forced to beg China to send them some.
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Posted: 12/30/2022 12:00:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: true it is a over the river fight which are quite tough, Dniprovska rail brige might still be up which would be plenty for ground troops and if thats gone and the area is too dug in you can always just go further east to Nova Kakhovka and try there instead im sure they will find a weak spot at sompoint That's the problem with reinforcing Kherson on the Russian side. The Ukrainians don't have to cross the Dnipro at Kherson. They can cross it anywhere to the east and you've got a problem. And the Ukrainians are already across the Dnipro where it runs N/S. Look how close to coast Bakhmut is. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 12:01:12 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia can’t level grid squares with massed artillery because they’ve run out of grid squares and have been forced to beg China to send them some. And they are all out of prop wash too. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 12:01:17 AM EDT
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Any issue Russia is going to have with low ammunition is likely logistics. If they have the big ammo dumps near the front it takes to supply big saturation attacks the Ukrainians will just blow up those ammo dumps or just grab all that ammo for Ukraine. Old Soviet doctrine has some big holes in it.
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Posted: 12/30/2022 12:08:17 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any issue Russia is going to have with low ammunition is likely logistics. If they have the big ammo dumps near the front it takes to supply big saturation attacks the Ukrainians will just blow up those ammo dumps or just grab all that ammo for Ukraine. Old Soviet doctrine has some big holes in it. 1945-era Soviet doctrine would be about a three decade improvement at this point. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 12:17:05 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is Russia shelling a city they claim is “Russian”? Any why in hell did they shell a maternity ward? They're de-nazifying Kherson, one maternity ward at a time. 
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Posted: 12/30/2022 12:18:20 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What people fail to realize is that the Russians are NOT going to lose and when the finally get pushed in the corner someone is getting nuked. Even if they whack Putin themselves the next guy is not going to be the one who surrenders Russia to The West. That end game is certain.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 12:21:22 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Well, ackshually, if they haven't turned it into Dresden yet then it's not really flattened." And how is continuing to deny Ukraine total control of Kherson a waste of ammo? Apartment buildings and maternity wards tend not to be strategically significant targets capable of killing your troops or hindering your progress. Hence, why the Ukrainians have been targeting Russian airbases in Russia when they could just as easily have used those modded drones to punch some holes in the ice cream tops of the Russian's stupid little Tetris castle. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 12:28:01 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exacerbate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fucking hell, the hand wringing over UA is insane around here. Putin isn’t going to use nukes. Putin isn’t going to use CBRN. His dudes can’t operate in the environment they created in the first place, introducing chemical weapons will only exasperate their well known logistics issues. Exacerbate. That shit gonna make you go blind! Anyone seen my glasses? |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 1:45:36 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're beginning to catch on. Take the Red Pill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't know I hope it's true. But we keep hearing how they're short on missiles and stuff. Yet they keep lobbing that stuff. Take the Red Pill. The rate of Russian missile use has fallen substantially since the beginning of the conflict, and increasingly they've substituted weapons that are older or less appropriate. Plainly, they've taken steps to reduce consumption out of concern for their supply. Ukraine is now shooting down $6m cruise missiles with $75,000 MANPADS. Russia doesn't have the economy to keep that up forever. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 1:53:26 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're beginning to catch on. Take the Red Pill. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't know I hope it's true. But we keep hearing how they're short on missiles and stuff. Yet they keep lobbing that stuff. Take the Red Pill. The rate of Russian missile use has fallen substantially since the beginning of the conflict, and increasingly they've substituted weapons that are older or less appropriate. Plainly, they've taken steps to reduce consumption out of concern for their supply. Ukraine is now shooting down $6m cruise missiles with $75,000 MANPADS. Russia doesn't have the economy to keep that up forever. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 1:54:03 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some truth to all of that, but they'd always exported munitions as a part of their national strategy. The kinds of munitions they seem to be short on are not the basics. The cornerstone of their warfighting doctrine has always called for massed artillery fires, and they've always had the deep stocks of both artillery and ammo. They have not ever had deep stocks on anything considered "smart". Their supplies are not endless, and neither are ours. It's hard to tell if Russia's problem is their stockpiles, or their ability to move them forward. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 2:04:17 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain how Kherson will be anything more than a no-man's land with hundreds of Russian artillery tubes on the high ground across the river? I'm all ears here. If the Ukrainians could hold Kherson, then why did they evacuate the city? The right bank is the higher ground, not the left. And they can hold it, as they held Kharkiv. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 2:04:58 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/23/world/europe/russia-shelling-ukraine-kherson.html Looks like that's what they are doing.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So why haven't they flattened it? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/23/world/europe/russia-shelling-ukraine-kherson.html Russian forces shelled the southern Kherson region 61 times over the past 24 hours with rocket, artillery and mortar attacks, hitting schools and residential buildings, Yaroslav Yanushevych, the head of the military administration in the Kherson Province, said on Telegram in a morning post. A later post said shelling near the city center of Kherson had killed two people, though the timing was not clear. Last month, Russian troops withdrew from the city and since then have fired hundreds of shells at it from their new positions. A common mistake amongst Russians and their supporters is to think that shitting in the swimming pool is the same thing as owning it. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 2:06:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What people fail to realize is that the Russians are NOT going to lose and when the finally get pushed in the corner someone is getting nuked. Even if they whack Putin themselves the next guy is not going to be the one who surrenders Russia to The West. That end game is certain. Meh. Not going to happen. Russians don't want to die either, at least the class that controls the nuclear weapons, and they lost in Afghanistan, Chechnya and the disolution of the USSR without nuking anyone. They'll take this one in the ass without too big a temper tantrum in the end also. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 2:20:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's the thing... Artillery shells and other munitions do not have an infinite shelf life. All of this adds up to our effete Kia mechanic probably being correct. Russia likely is running out of artillery shells. They will probably try to inspect and refurbish some of the less well maintained shells but this could be dangerous for the crews. They will try to buy shells from North Korea, China, and anyone else who is willing to sell them. They will try to ramp up production and they probably can do this as artillery shells aren't, (Or don't have to be) high tech items. And the same forces are at work (to a lesser extent) in the US as well. We are going to have to ramp up production, if we aren't already. And we will run out of artillery shells to supply Ukraine in short order. I don't know when exactly, but I know how these things work. As far as chemical shells go, I can see the Russians doing that. Using chemical weapons would be insanely stupid... So it's realistic that the idiots in Russia will try it. We were still firing early 1970's 81mm and 4.2in HE until the mid 90s until we replaced the 4.2in M30 with M120 120mm copy of the Soviet M1943 120mm Mortars. Now the problem with the Russians is going to be when they start to take short cuts by breaking down the NBC 122mm, 152mm, and 230mm casings to make HE, but a handful of non-remanufactured rounds are going to accidentally or corruptly get shipped to the Ukraine Front. Then what does Poland, NATO and the USA do in response? |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 2:34:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: What a mess. This is one of the best ways to sum it all up I think. I’ve been avoiding too much news about the war these last few months, but I read most of an NYT article about the most recent Russian missile/drone attacks. There was a photo of a 16 year old girl who looked like she had just thrown a coat on over her pajamas, and was standing in front of a destroyed house/building in her neighborhood. I can’t imagine living through something like that at that age. It’s like WWII on a smaller scale, and with cruise, ballistic missiles and drones replacing bombers that have to fly above their target. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 2:47:20 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So why haven't they flattened it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Once again, are you saying the Ukrainians will be able to do anything with the city either when Russia can flatten it at will? JFC, stop snorting the copium. Kherson is effectively a no-man's land; as long as Russia holds the other side of the river it is Ukrainian in name only. So why haven't they flattened it? Same reason they didn't take Kyiv. Just a feint bro. |
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