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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:54:06 PM EDT
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To me it seems that the focus should be on STEM Adding Arts into STEM only seems to drag it down. 
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:54:45 PM EDT
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Feels
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:55:19 PM EDT
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They should make it accounting.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:55:27 PM EDT
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So SJW can feel good about themselves.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:55:40 PM EDT
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Funding.
The “arts” didn’t want to get left out of the money pool. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:55:47 PM EDT
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They should make it accounting. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:55:49 PM EDT
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It's so the 'humanities' crowd doesn't feel microaggressed by the science nerds.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:55:54 PM EDT
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STEM wasn't inclusive. The 'A' had to be added so the thinking-challenged wouldn't feel left out.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:55:59 PM EDT
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Something about adding creativity to STEM field.. We have this crazy liberal engineer who works with me that explained it once.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:56:08 PM EDT
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STEM hurt Art's feels. Schools created STEAM cause we can't have hurt feels.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:56:26 PM EDT
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Inclusiveness.
It would hurt the feelings of the A's telling them if their not top in class job prospects mostly involve asking "would you like fries with that" |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:56:54 PM EDT
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Funding. The “arts” didn’t want to get left out of the money pool. Science, Technology, and Math are all closely related. Art? |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:57:03 PM EDT
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Bro, where would modern medicine, manufacturing, computing, communication, space flight, military technology, vehicles, etc be without ART?
It's absolutely critical! |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:57:21 PM EDT
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There isn't an A in STEM.
They're trying to add it as a participation award for the "A"s. We just had a thread on this: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-/5-2080545/? |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:57:57 PM EDT
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They should make it accounting. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:58:23 PM EDT
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How else are they gonna raise the self-esteam (intentional spelling) of kids who can't hack it academically?
It's similar to the SJW-led effort to redefine "intelligence" to mean something, anything other than "intelligence", so that they can pump up kids who are not that bright and shit on the ones who are that bright. Because equality, or somethin'... Or why some leftist idiots will try to get away with calling a 'garbage man' a 'sanitation engineer' (as if the guy graduated from some engineering school)... |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 8:59:50 PM EDT
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Bro, where would modern medicine, manufacturing, computing, communication, space flight, military technology, vehicles, etc be without ART? |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:01:32 PM EDT
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If you ever hear STEAM, slap it down and point out just how stupid it is. There is no point of STEM if you include art.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:01:42 PM EDT
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Tell that to Apple.
People buy design as much as they buy function. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:02:03 PM EDT
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How else are they gonna raise the self-esteam (intentional spelling) of kids who can't hack it academically? It's similar to the SJW-led effort to redefine "intelligence" to mean something, anything other than "intelligence", so that they can pump up kids who are not that bright and shit on the ones who are that bright. Because equality, or somethin'... Or why some leftist idiots will try to get away with calling a 'garbage man' a 'sanitation engineer' (as if the guy graduated from some engineering school)... "It's about self-eSTEAM" "Raising our self-eSTEAM standards" "What could be more important than a student's self-eSTEAM?" |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:02:42 PM EDT
[#21]
Money. Nothing else. It is about distribution of federal money for educational programs.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:03:17 PM EDT
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feeels
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:03:40 PM EDT
[#23]
What about Athletics? You have to be fit and healthy to work. STEAAM?
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:05:50 PM EDT
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They don’t want the drastic oversupply of “artists” to feel left out.
Makes less sense than putting auto shop in the fine arts buidling.....though that would be a better use of the space. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:08:17 PM EDT
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They don’t want the drastic oversupply of “artists” to feel left out. Makes less sense than putting auto shop in the fine arts buidling.....though that would be a better use of the space. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:09:12 PM EDT
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Tell that to Apple. People buy design as much as they buy function. Not really no. Apple convinced people they need an iPhone 87$, that's marketing. Could a looked like a dog turd and people would still buy it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:09:36 PM EDT
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Feels |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:12:58 PM EDT
[#28]
The whole idea of STEM was an FU to Arts, etc.
Then to make the useless feel better, they added the A. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:20:37 PM EDT
[#29]
Six is afraid of seven
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Because seven ate nine. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:21:53 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:22:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Art teachers need to eat too.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:26:58 PM EDT
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That's the point, to drag it down. Soon, the T will stand for Transgender Studies.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:27:26 PM EDT
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Meanwhile... industrial designers are over in the corner laughing their asses off while engineers are getting butt hurt about art getting added to their nerd club.
It takes a team to develop a product; designers, engineers, manufacturing, distribution, marketing, and sales... all working together to succeed. Art and creativity is part of humanity; if art is irrelevant then throw out your furniture, your books, you kitchen appliances, whatever good looking car you have in the garage... art exists in every single one of those products |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:30:37 PM EDT
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STEM was brought on to delineate the those with hard science degree. Adding an A is bullshit, and has nothing to do with the other fields of study.
I refuse to add the A. I have a STEM degree. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:31:49 PM EDT
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The people who want to add Arts to the category of the USEFUL, PRODUCTIVE, and GOOD PAYING degrees are exactly the same people who demand participation trophies just for showing up or even for supporting the event in a spiritual manner even if they could not be bothered to physically make an appearance at it.
Just tell them "STEM degrees have real value. Arts degrees don't, so that's why we don't add the A." Just flat out piss them off to no end. It's fun! |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:32:20 PM EDT
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Average IQ's want to appear smart by association. It makes them feel better about themselves. Trophy anyone? They're free.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:33:06 PM EDT
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Trying to make art as important and meaningful as real careers
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:35:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Art and creativity is part of humanity; if art is irrelevant then throw out your furniture, your books, you kitchen appliances, whatever good looking car you have in the garage... art exists in every single one of those products STEM degrees are most likely to lead to a good living. Arts degrees, not so much. Well paid artists are the exception, not the rule. A world without art and creativity would not be worth living in. A world without engineering would be HARD to live in. With both in the right proportions, life is very much worth living. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:37:02 PM EDT
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Lol Not really no. Apple convinced people they need an iPhone 87$, that's marketing. Could a looked like a dog turd and people would still buy it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tell that to Apple. People buy design as much as they buy function. Not really no. Apple convinced people they need an iPhone 87$, that's marketing. Could a looked like a dog turd and people would still buy it. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:42:08 PM EDT
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Meanwhile... industrial designers are over in the corner laughing their asses off while engineers are getting butt hurt about art getting added to their nerd club. It takes a team to develop a product; designers, engineers, manufacturing, distribution, marketing, and sales... all working together to succeed. Art and creativity is part of humanity; if art is irrelevant then throw out your furniture, your books, you kitchen appliances, whatever good looking car you have in the garage... art exists in every single one of those products |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:44:54 PM EDT
[#41]
No one takes STEAM serious, anyone that says STEAM looks likes like a fool.
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:46:11 PM EDT
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It's like the LQAGGWTQB2+. They'll just keep adding letters to the acronym to water it down. Eventually, it'll be just another marketing slogan for "Go to college and get a degree in anything. They're all great majors!"
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:53:11 PM EDT
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Maybe A is so the baristas who are “Artists” and “Actors” can feel important?
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Posted: 2/18/2018 9:56:02 PM EDT
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Because engineers need imagination
According to the libs on my city fb group when I ranted against it |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 10:03:38 PM EDT
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Let's not kid ourselves here. Artistic attributes of an item are far less valuable than the functional attributes. E.g. a car which looks amazing but doesn't run is far less valuable than an unattractive car that runs well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile... industrial designers are over in the corner laughing their asses off while engineers are getting butt hurt about art getting added to their nerd club. It takes a team to develop a product; designers, engineers, manufacturing, distribution, marketing, and sales... all working together to succeed. Art and creativity is part of humanity; if art is irrelevant then throw out your furniture, your books, you kitchen appliances, whatever good looking car you have in the garage... art exists in every single one of those products The arrogance, indifference, and ignorance of engineers just make shit harder than it has to be. Haveing an engineer tell me that it's unimportant what handle a $12,000 luxury appliance has is just silly. All of the work that engineer put in doesn't mean shit if the product looks like a bunch of engineers tacked on an off the shelf handle and half assed the gaps because it makes their life easier. Ignore and bilittle art at your own risk if you're engineering on human centered products, your competitors thank you. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 10:07:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2018 10:07:46 PM EDT
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They should make it accounting. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 10:09:20 PM EDT
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Let's not kid ourselves here. Artistic attributes of an item are far less valuable than the functional attributes. E.g. a car which looks amazing but doesn't run is far less valuable than an unattractive car that runs well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meanwhile... industrial designers are over in the corner laughing their asses off while engineers are getting butt hurt about art getting added to their nerd club. It takes a team to develop a product; designers, engineers, manufacturing, distribution, marketing, and sales... all working together to succeed. Art and creativity is part of humanity; if art is irrelevant then throw out your furniture, your books, you kitchen appliances, whatever good looking car you have in the garage... art exists in every single one of those products The arrogance, indifference, and ignorance of engineers just make shit harder than it has to be. Haveing an engineer tell me that it's unimportant what handle a $12,000 luxury appliance has is just silly. All of the work that engineer put in doesn't mean shit if the product looks like a bunch of engineers tacked on an off the shelf handle and half assed the gaps because it makes their life easier, the customer can see that. Ignore and bilittle art at your own risk if you're engineering on human centered products, your competitors thank you. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 10:14:01 PM EDT
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Lol Not really no. Apple convinced people they need an iPhone 87$, that's marketing. Could a looked like a dog turd and people would still buy it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tell that to Apple. People buy design as much as they buy function. Not really no. Apple convinced people they need an iPhone 87$, that's marketing. Could a looked like a dog turd and people would still buy it. ETA: Maybe more. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 10:14:33 PM EDT
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