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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:03:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints worships Jesus Christ. Link Jared Kushner is a lifelong registered Democrat. Trump is letting Kushner establish policy for the Trump Administration. What does that make Trump? https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e0syxld_Tqw/XMJFbIQB2lI/AAAAAAAABnw/Zgch0nu80mQKIipCgA8czxTKegWJwOjRQCLcBGAs/s1600/Say%2Bit%2Bsay%2Bit%2Bsay%2Bit%2Bsay%2Bit.png |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:04:52 PM EDT
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Your fellow tribesman would have done the same thing. Trump criminalized gun parts possession and did it bypassing congress. Exploiting Federal power. And paving the way for an AWB that bypasses congress after the next mass-shooting. Blame Romney. Funny thing... After Sandy Hook, Orlando, Vegas, and Parkland, Trump called for more gun laws each time. Romney? Romney had every chance Trump had to move to the Democrat Party on gun rights... Somehow we are to believe that Romney is chomping at the bit to side with Trump against gun owners, but Romney has largely defended gun owners, "no new gun laws." Trump flip-flops left on gun rights? Blame Romney? Makes a lot of sense... Why not blame Trump for Trumps failures...? |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except Mormons reject the deity of Christ. Quote HistoryQuoted: Except Mormons reject the deity of Christ. Latter-day Saints are Christians on the basis of our doctrine, our defined relationship to Christ, our patterns of worship and our way of life. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:09:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:11:37 PM EDT
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We believe that Jesus Christ is Gods Son, and has always been such. Doesn't put Jesus in a very special place, now does it? And then, when Mormonism holds that their god - "heavenly father", who is supposedly the father of Jesus, was simply a man who evolved... That doesn't put Jesus in a very special place either. God the Father and Jesus Christ His only begotten Son found in the Bible bear no resemblance to the heavenly father and Jesus of Mormonism. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:13:08 PM EDT
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Turns out even most religious people don't like holier-than-tho douchebags all that much.
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:16:23 PM EDT
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McCain, Romney, Boehner, etc. the whole lot of RINOs stank, stink, stunk.
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:16:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is false. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints teaches that Jesus Christ is Gods Son, just as the Bible teaches... Link |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:17:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:17:04 PM EDT
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Orange man bad! Trump “take the guns first, due process later”. Romney signing an assault weapons bill and Romneycare are POSITIVE things. Orange man bad. Orange man worse. https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0F_8jIgChf8/XL-KiAGWYEI/AAAAAAAABnM/r7_W2UF4No8x63gsW84BD9v95opfGyw4gCLcBGAs/s1600/Trump%2Bflip-flop.png Miss any? 
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:25:16 PM EDT
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The author is married to National Review's David French. This is just more virtue signalling by the cuckservative wing of the Globalist Uniparty. They think you're stupid so they can just use "your" religion against you. tl;dr version of article. "You stupid Trump supporters should be ashamed of yourselves, attacking Mitt Romney. Why, doesn't your quaint little religion (which we otherwise would mock) require you to side with pious Mitt over heathen Trump? I'm now going to call you prejudiced if you don't agree with me, rather than trying to debate the merits of Mitt's blatant attempts to destroy the Republic." |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:40:08 PM EDT
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McCain, Romney, Boehner, etc. the whole lot of RINOs stank, stink, stunk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
McCain, Romney, Boehner, etc. the whole lot of RINOs stank, stink, stunk. “I know John McCain, and John McCain's a great guy, a tremendous guy,” Trump told King. “I've known him for a long time. And I'm with him, and I'm with him based on the fact that I have great knowledge of John McCain. “While I’m at it, I hold in the highest esteem Sen. John McCain for his service to our country in uniform and in public office and I fully support and endorse his reelection," Trump said. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:47:42 PM EDT
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The trib endorsed Romney from the get-go, because they're a liberal rag, and they knew Romney was a liberal at heart. Now, despite being anti-Mormon and anti-Christian, they're trying to play the religion card to get people to support him. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:48:06 PM EDT
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I dislike Romney more than I dislike AOC, Omar, and Tlaib. At least they are forthcoming about their agenda.
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:50:53 PM EDT
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Mormonism also holds that Satan is God's son... and so is every other person... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Mormonism also holds that Satan is God's son... and so is every other person... Something critics of our believes purposefully leave-out in discussions like this. We are all Gods children? Yep. Is Christ divine, and without sin, and the rest of us sin and need to repent? Yep. Do we need to accept Christs teachings to repent and be saved? Yep. Did Satan rebel, and get kicked-out? Yep. Satan is evil, and was kicked-out of Gods presence. Quoted:
Doesn't put Jesus in a very special place, now does it? We believe that Jesus is without sin, and divine. We believe we need to believe in him, have faith, repent, and follow His teachings in order to be saved. Satan rebelled, and was kicked-out, and Satan attacks God and truth. Satan uses half-truths and lies as one of his many tools. Quoted:
And then, when Mormonism holds that their god - "heavenly father", who is supposedly the father of Jesus, was simply a man who evolved... That doesn't put Jesus in a very special place either. The origin of God is speculation and postulation at best... There is no set, established scriptural doctrine beyond that God, our Heavenly Father, is eternal. Quoted:
God the Father and Jesus Christ His only begotten Son found in the Bible bear no resemblance to the heavenly father and Jesus of Mormonism. We believe the Bible is the word of God. As is The Book of Mormon. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:51:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:52:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:53:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:53:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:54:51 PM EDT
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Homeboys back has to hurt carrying all that water.
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:54:52 PM EDT
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I dislike Romney more than I dislike AOC, Omar, and Tlaib. At least they are forthcoming about their agenda. Yeah, gun owners saw this coming a mile-away... 
With how crystal-clear Trump was during the election that he was going to side with Democrats on gun rights... |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:55:44 PM EDT
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I’d rather be governed by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian.
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:58:15 PM EDT
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We are all Gods children? Yep. John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Just another example of the un-Biblical false teachings of the Mormon church. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 4:59:51 PM EDT
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 oh shit...
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:02:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:08:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We worship and believe in Jesus Christ, the same from the New Testament. We believe that Jesus Christ is Gods Son, and has always been such. 'Worked his way into being God," is not terminology found in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. That is because it is a purposeful straw-man created by antagonists to The Church. Jesus has always been Gods Son. He was mortal and immortal. How? I have faith. The term, "of Latter-Day Saints" is to distinguish The Church of Jesus Christ from the pre-creed Church to The Church today, in the last days. We worship the Biblical Jesus. Gods Son... Same Jesus the followers of Christ worshipped in the first centuries Church, prior to the false creeds. We need the full name of The Church of Jesus Christ so folks know this is the last Church of Jesus Christ in the last days... Stating that Jesus Christ is "God's son" is a statement addressing nothing that's been pointed out. These two Jesuses don't reconcile with each other in basic doctrine about who they are, and the nature of their divinity. There is no possible way that the nature of Jesus Christ of the Bible and History can be the same "Jesus Christ" in mormonism. Very large and critical parts of one of them have to be rejected. I've posed some questions that tease out differences. The answer in parenthesis is a doctrinal Christian answer. How was Jesus conceived? (by the Holy Spirit overshadowing Mary, a virgin as stated in the Bible. God and Mary did not engage in intercourse.) Did Jesus Christ always exist eternally as God? (yes) Is God eternal? Is God the only God that ever existed, or ever possibly could exist? (yes) Was God ever a physical man, just like us, with no divinity? (absolutely not, no. This is a laughable notion to a Christian or a Jew.) Does God have, or ever have had a 'wife?' (absolutely not, no.) Without regard to which God you worship, do mormons acknowledge the possible existence of multiple Gods? (Christians do not, whether referencing 'this world' or any other that has ever, or will ever exist.) With respect, not the same Jesus bro. Not even close. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:11:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just another example of the un-Biblical false teachings of the Mormon church. Quote HistoryQuoted: Just another example of the un-Biblical false teachings of the Mormon church. We also have to repent in order to be saved. Another crystal-clear Biblical teaching. God is our Father in Heaven, a clear-cut Biblical teaching... The Father of the spirits of all mankind (Ps. 82:6; Matt. 5:48; John 10:34; Rom. 8:16–17; Gal. 4:7; 1 Jn. 3:2). Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." "...your Father which is in heaven..." Crystal-clear doctrine. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:13:12 PM EDT
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You are free to believe as you please. But, as you know, NO Protestant Denomination, nor the Roman Catholic Church, believes that Mormons are Christians. Mitt is not a Christian. Neither is President Trump. But Trump's policies are far better than evil Democrats or Mitt's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints worships Jesus Christ. Mitt is not a Christian. Neither is President Trump. But Trump's policies are far better than evil Democrats or Mitt's. Of course, not even his most ardent supporters would claim he is a paragon of Christian values. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:38:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are Gods children. That is a clearly Biblical teaching. Typical Mormon technique. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:42:25 PM EDT
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No, it’s because he’s a traitorous scumbag. https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2019/04/25/commentary-romney-was/ |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:42:39 PM EDT
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How was Jesus conceived? (by the Holy Spirit overshadowing Mary, a virgin as stated in the Bible. God and Mary did not engage in intercourse.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
How was Jesus conceived? (by the Holy Spirit overshadowing Mary, a virgin as stated in the Bible. God and Mary did not engage in intercourse.) Quoted:
Did Jesus Christ always exist eternally as God? (yes) We believe that Jesus Christ is eternal with God, His Father. Quoted:
Is God eternal? Is God the only God that ever existed, or ever possibly could exist? (yes) God is eternal... Link Quoted:
Was God ever a physical man, just like us, with no divinity? (absolutely not, no. This is a laughable notion to a Christian or a Jew.) Scholars have long acknowledged that the view of God held by the earliest Christians changed dramatically over the course of centuries. Early Christian views of God were more personal, more anthropomorphic, and less abstract than those that emerged later during Christianity’s creedal stage. The key ideological shift that began in the second century, after the loss of apostolic authority, resulted from a conceptual merger of Christian doctrine with Greek philosophy.
Latter-day Saints believe the melding of early Christian theology with Greek philosophy was a grave error. Chief among the doctrines lost in this process was the nature of the Godhead. Latter-day Saints hold that God the Father is an embodied being with the attributes ascribed by the earliest Christians. That belief is consistent with the early Christian views of God, yet it differs from the later creeds. We do not make official doctrinal claims that God ever lacked divinity, or was or isn't eternal... those are your false words. Quoted:
Does God have, or ever have had a 'wife?' (absolutely not, no.) The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that all human beings, male and female, are beloved spirit children of heavenly parents, a Heavenly Father and a Heavenly Mother. This understanding is rooted in scriptural and prophetic teachings about the nature of God, our relationship to Deity, and the godly potential of men and women.1 The doctrine of a Heavenly Mother is a cherished and distinctive belief among Latter-day Saints.2 Quoted:
Without regard to which God you worship, do mormons acknowledge the possible existence of multiple Gods? (Christians do not, whether referencing 'this world' or any other that has ever, or will ever exist.) There are no other competing deities in our beliefs. God, the Father, His Son, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. One God. There are no other competing deities. Satan is evil, and Satan fights God. Good vs. evil. Anything else is postulation and guessing, and not based in established scriptural doctrine... Quoted:
With respect, not the same Jesus bro. Not even close. After the early creeds, traditional "Christianity" left the tracks. So there are some differences, some significant. That being said, we worship God and Christ as the early pre-creed Church did. We believe the Bible along with the Book of Mormon. We believe in God, or Father. We believe in Christ, Gods Son. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints unequivocally affirm themselves to be Christians. They worship God the Eternal Father in the name of Jesus Christ. When asked what the Latter-day Saints believe, Joseph Smith put Christ at the center: “The fundamental principles of our religion is the testimony of the apostles and prophets concerning Jesus Christ, ‘that he died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended up into heaven;’ and all other things are only appendages to these, which pertain to our religion.” |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:43:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except Mormons reject the deity of Christ. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:44:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mormonism also holds that Satan is God's son... and so is every other person... Doesn't put Jesus in a very special place, now does it? And then, when Mormonism holds that their god - "heavenly father", who is supposedly the father of Jesus, was simply a man who evolved... That doesn't put Jesus in a very special place either. God the Father and Jesus Christ His only begotten Son found in the Bible bear no resemblance to the heavenly father and Jesus of Mormonism. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:45:51 PM EDT
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And Mittens is a RINO cunt. 
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:48:50 PM EDT
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Orange man bad! Trump “take the guns first, due process later”. Romney signing an assault weapons bill and Romneycare are POSITIVE things. Orange man bad. Orange man worse. https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0F_8jIgChf8/XL-KiAGWYEI/AAAAAAAABnM/r7_W2UF4No8x63gsW84BD9v95opfGyw4gCLcBGAs/s1600/Trump%2Bflip-flop.png Miss any? |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:50:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I notice you ignored the scripture I posted. Typical Mormon technique. Quote HistoryQuoted: I notice you ignored the scripture I posted. Typical Mormon technique. Typical. To this day Christians disagree on which books are the word of God--that is, which books belong in a "Christian" Bible. During the Christian era there has been a variety of disagreements over which books should be part of the New Testament canon. Moreover, Catholics have added (or have Protestants deleted?) a large collection of books found in the ancient Greek manuscripts of the early Christian church and used by some Christians for centuries. The truth is that traditional Christendom has never been unanimous on the issues of canon and the Bible. If the modern churches can strongly disagree among themselves as to what the canon of Christian scripture is, and yet continue to accept each other as Christians, then it is logically inconsistent and manifestly unfair to deny the Latter-day Saints the same privilege. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 5:57:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don’t you conjure any evil, Ricky Bobby! 
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:20:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I notice you ignored the Biblical scripture *I* posted. Typical. Quote HistoryQuoted: I notice you ignored the Biblical scripture *I* posted. Typical. Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." "...your Father which is in heaven..." Crystal-clear doctrine. But not ALL humans are God's children, as Jesus clearly explained in the passage I quoted. Yet you disagreed with Jesus and said that all men are God's children. You Mormons are free to believe anything you please. But if you are in disagreement with Jesus, you are not Christians. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:21:12 PM EDT
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That is false. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints teaches that Jesus Christ is Gods Son, just as the Bible teaches... Link Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Except Mormons reject the deity of Christ. Latter-day Saints are Christians on the basis of our doctrine, our defined relationship to Christ, our patterns of worship and our way of life. 
Oh yeah...the Mormon Jesus!  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:39:22 PM EDT
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The trib endorsed Romney from the get-go, because they're a liberal rag, and they knew Romney was a liberal at heart. Now, despite being anti-Mormon and anti-Christian, they're trying to play the religion card to get people to support him. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:39:30 PM EDT
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Not all conservatives are religious. Some of us don't care about the politicians religions...except the ones that actively look to destroy western civilization. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:40:23 PM EDT
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Holy fuck. It didn't even make it one page before the autism kicked in.
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:43:15 PM EDT
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It is indeed clear doctrine. It is speaking of those that are Saved, hence, God's children. Quote HistoryQuoted:
It is indeed clear doctrine. It is speaking of those that are Saved, hence, God's children. We also must be adopted into God, through accepting Christ, and repenting, and following Christs commandments... I don't know there is much disagreement here... If there is, please explain it... Quoted:
But not ALL humans are God's children, as Jesus clearly explained in the passage I quoted. Yet you disagreed with Jesus and said that all men are God's children. Acts 17 28 For in him we alive, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. Scriptures sometimes disagree and sometimes seem to contradict? Hmmm... Quoted:
You Mormons are free to believe anything you please. But if you are in disagreement with Jesus, you are not Christians. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:45:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh yeah...the Mormon Jesus Mormonism 101: What is Mormonism? Link |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:48:13 PM EDT
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boom Trump endorsed Romney in February of 2018. Romney did not ask for either endorsement. Boom? |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 6:58:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 7:19:01 PM EDT
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We are all Gods Children. God created all of us... And we can all be saved if we accept the true teachings of Christ, repent, and follow His commandments... We also must be adopted into God, through accepting Christ, and repenting, and following Christs commandments... I don't know there is much disagreement here... If there is, please explain it... Disagree with Jesus? Those are your false words, not mine... Acts 17 28 For in him we alive, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. Scriptures sometimes disagree and sometimes seem to contradict? Hmmm... The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints follows the teachings of Jesus Christ and we do not disagree with Christs teachings... To say otherwise would be false. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is indeed clear doctrine. It is speaking of those that are Saved, hence, God's children. We also must be adopted into God, through accepting Christ, and repenting, and following Christs commandments... I don't know there is much disagreement here... If there is, please explain it... Quoted:
But not ALL humans are God's children, as Jesus clearly explained in the passage I quoted. Yet you disagreed with Jesus and said that all men are God's children. Acts 17 28 For in him we alive, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. Scriptures sometimes disagree and sometimes seem to contradict? Hmmm... Quoted:
You Mormons are free to believe anything you please. But if you are in disagreement with Jesus, you are not Christians. John 8:39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Jesus said, in the red part, that they were of their "father the devil". Yet you disagree with Jesus and wrongly say that "We are all Gods Children." I'm through wasting time with you on this. You are blind and cannot see. I was once there myself. I pray that you may come to see the Light. Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound, That Saved a wretch like me, I once was lost but now am found, Was blind, but now I see. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 7:42:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2019 7:44:21 PM EDT
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It really is quite the competition for various groups to see who can scream victim the loudest. Two different groups in one day vying for title of the most disparaged is almost too much to keep up with...
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Posted: 4/28/2019 7:49:17 PM EDT
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When I moved to Utah about seven years ago I New it was a solid republican State what I didn't know and would find out is that it is a much more rino type republican the people out here are not that conservative but the do vote republican and the media
you would think this was San Francisco by reading the papers or watching tv news
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