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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:36:23 PM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago that pain meds like those mentioned here were only given to patients with terminal cancer. Now, everybody has "severe pain" and is zombified on opiates and the "pain clinics" and drug companies have legitimized drugging half the country and are making a fortune. By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. Telling new patients i don't write chronic narcs saves me lots of headaches. Unfortunately there's lots of pill mill "clinics" that help make new addicts... |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:42:28 PM EDT
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Not even close. The reason is the .Fed's boner for "fighting opiod" abuse by regulating the shit out of the industry. More and more people will see the backfire to this. People like the OP, who can't afford that 100 buck increase because they can't afford the Obamacare bs, will turn to the cheaper alternative of Heroin. Then that will spiral out of control, and people die and the cycle continues. If you think for one second that the people who go to actual pain clinics, where the doctor specializes in treating chronic pain just show up, get a bottle of pills and walks out with a grin you are crazy. The do pill counts, drug tests, alternative therapy and won't take patients who ASK for drugs by name plus a ton of other stuff. If you think you can go in, and say "well doc I think I need 4mg Dilaudid 5 times a day" and the doc says Ya buddy sounds right here ya go, well then you are insane. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:47:01 PM EDT
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And there are Arfcommers who can one-up you ten times over. I don't see them taking shots at the OP. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:48:56 PM EDT
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I bet he's never priced cancer treatment. "Hurrrrr it's live saving to me so it should be cheap" |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:58:04 PM EDT
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You guys need to learn some corporate psychology. Sam's will raise the price from $119 to $199 and reap in profits galore. If the people don't complain they keep it the same. If the people complain, Sam's will fart around like it will take time to do a study all while reaping in the profit. Then they will decide to lower the price to $145.
Sam's is still getting a $26 increase while the people jump for joy celebrating a victory getting Sam's to cave in. $145 is probably still the high end of the average range. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 11:58:17 PM EDT
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Lol what a fucking snowflake. People with allergies tend to be so melodramatic. Go buy a vial of epi and carry a syringe if it chaps your ass so much. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:00:44 AM EDT
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I guess you missed the point of that there are folks out there who actually require live saving meds they can't afford and op is crying about his comfort meds. He/she will not die with out it. But hey I am the bad guy for pointing out the fact that his heroin is cheaper than something that actually saves lives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And there are Arfcommers who can one-up you ten times over. I don't see them taking shots at the OP. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:03:24 AM EDT
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And I probably spend more on my daughter's medications than you spend on yours. And they are, indeed, life saving medications. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:06:10 AM EDT
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Actually, a pain doc local to my store was just arrested for this. It happens, and some years back in the heyday of pain clinics in Florida, it was pretty common. There are still clinics that only take cash and skirt the pain contract rules. You would be suprised at some of the scripts I've seen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not even close. The reason is the .Fed's boner for "fighting opiod" abuse by regulating the shit out of the industry. More and more people will see the backfire to this. People like the OP, who can't afford that 100 buck increase because they can't afford the Obamacare bs, will turn to the cheaper alternative of Heroin. Then that will spiral out of control, and people die and the cycle continues. If you think for one second that the people who go to actual pain clinics, where the doctor specializes in treating chronic pain just show up, get a bottle of pills and walks out with a grin you are crazy. The do pill counts, drug tests, alternative therapy and won't take patients who ASK for drugs by name plus a ton of other stuff. If you think you can go in, and say "well doc I think I need 4mg Dilaudid 5 times a day" and the doc says Ya buddy sounds right here ya go, well then you are insane. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:16:42 AM EDT
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So I am supposed to feel bad for OP and his heroin price increase because your daughters meds cost more than you think mine cost ? Glad to hear you are suddenly the expert on what my prescriptions cost and what is required to keep me alive. I must have missed the thread I started about how much my comfort meds cost me and how everyone is screwing me to keep me comfortable and in an affordable heroin script. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And I probably spend more on my daughter's medications than you spend on yours. And they are, indeed, life saving medications. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:18:32 AM EDT
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Look, doc, you were the one who brought it up. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:18:35 AM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago that pain meds like those mentioned here were only given to patients with terminal cancer. Now, everybody has "severe pain" and is zombified on opiates and the "pain clinics" and drug companies have legitimized drugging half the country and are making a fortune. By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:21:22 AM EDT
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find me a Dr. who will write a prescription for a vial and syringe of epi...... I will wait......Melodramatic ? Give me a fucking break.... OP is crying about his comfort meds and you are calling me a fucking snowflake for pointing out actual life saving meds. are more expensive than comfort meds. Lets see you or one of your kids get a life endangering allergy and see how "melodramatic" you get. Yes I could have used cancer drugs or some other live saving med as an example but this is the one that I deal with sorry you got butthurt over life saving meds being more expensive than comfort meds. If you haven't asked, then I can only conclude that you don't actually care that much. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:26:31 AM EDT
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That would cost me oh, about .87 cents.....It's good to have real insurance.  About the same as a gas-station soda or half a Starbucks. Seems pretty inexpensive for what it does. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 12:55:29 AM EDT
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So I am supposed to feel bad for OP and his heroin price increase because your daughters meds cost more than you think mine cost ? Glad to hear you are suddenly the expert on what my prescriptions cost and what is required to keep me alive. I must have missed the thread I started about how much my comfort meds cost me and how everyone is screwing me to keep me comfortable and in an affordable heroin script. Atleast OP can seek his meds out on the street. Good luck finding actual life saving meds from your friendly street dealer. Hell lets increase prices 100X if it decreases the prices of life saving drugs. Comfort vs Alive is a very real price point. Snowflake signing off and out of this retarded thread I should have never spoken truth into. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And I probably spend more on my daughter's medications than you spend on yours. And they are, indeed, life saving medications. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 1:10:07 AM EDT
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This snowflake is still trying to figure out how he is the bad guy for pointing out OP is crying about comfort meds while folks die every day because they can't afford life saving meds. You jumped in this thread and called him a heroin addict and mentioned "comfort meds" no less than 4 times. I don't know op or his situation. He could be a stage 4 cancer patient for all you or I know. Man your post was very low class. By the way I don't envy having to keep a needle of shit on me 24/7. So I do empathize. But you just plain come across wrong man. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 1:11:10 AM EDT
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This snowflake is still trying to figure out how he is the bad guy for pointing out OP is crying about comfort meds while folks die every day because they can't afford life saving meds. While I personally reserve judgement and acknowledge everyone's situation is different, I feel like I could substantially mitigate or eliminate my risk of bee stings by making some relatively easy lifestyle adjustments were I forced to live 30 days without an epi pen. Granted, we all live under the constant terror of swarms of bees just flying around, waiting for their moment to rape us in the face and exacerbate or allergies, I think even the "most rapey" bees could be thwarted by staying indoors. I'm less certain the OP could survive the agony of whatever condition necessitates them taking a daily quantity of oral morphine in addition to the dangerously high blood pressure caused by untreated pain, coupled with opioid withdrawal were they forced to be without their medication for 30 days. It would seem that your medication has much more to do with "comfort" than OP's, Thomas... |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 1:16:43 AM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago that pain meds like those mentioned here were only given to patients with terminal cancer. Now, everybody has "severe pain" and is zombified on opiates and the "pain clinics" and drug companies have legitimized drugging half the country and are making a fortune. By the way, before everyone jumps in about how they have real pain, no other country in the rest of the world is even close to the US nowadays in opiate use. Not even close. The rest of the world has banned guns and has much lower gun crime rate. Should we ban those too to be like the rest of the world? The rest of the world has socialized healthcare. Should we have socialized healthcare? |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 1:17:45 AM EDT
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Good thing we have a great doctor like yourself here to tell us who should and shouldn't be using certain medications. They use the same emotional "logic" as the left Dictating who and who not should get pain meds or want people in real pain to suffer because of druggies Opiates are a miracle drug for pain and we have idiots in here who want to ban them all and let people suffer 
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Posted: 6/24/2017 1:25:12 AM EDT
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This snowflake is still trying to figure out how he is the bad guy for pointing out OP is crying about comfort meds while folks die every day because they can't afford life saving meds. Don't see me throwing a tantrum like a fucking two year old because of it. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 1:26:12 AM EDT
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Feds probably have mandated no discounts on opiates. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 1:37:12 AM EDT
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Hey mr. heroin/morphine addict OP. Wanna try something fun on for size ? An epipen will cost me $300 on average with a coupon and if I can find a place that has the adrenaclick then I might get it for $120 with my insurance. You might get uncomfortable and even cry with out your dope. You know what happens if I don't have my epinephrine and end up stung by a bee ? I fucking die. Please go cry some where else. We're in the same boat and I abhor the cost of that life saving drug. Unlike you I wouldn't throw you overboard. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 8:50:20 AM EDT
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A problem is that we as Americans have a skewed idea of what acceptable pain is.
Pain happens. My knees and back hurt. Sometimes it's pretty bad. I could easily go to a doctor and get on Norco. When Norco stops working, I could get on stronger stuff. Eventually I could get on MS Contin. It's easy to justify, because I didn't buy heroin behind a dumpster. A man who went to medical school told me to take a prescription drug. So it's totally different. Except it's not. There are people who need pain medicine. Most people taking pain medicine today should never have been given pain medicine in the first place. For an interesting story, I had a guy in the hospital not long ago who was a typical "muh back" pain medicine addict. He had a pot belly and chronic back pain, and instead of losing weight and strengthening his back muscles, he just takes pain medicine. Anyway, he got pancreatitis. For those who don't know, pancreatitis hurts like a MOTHERFUCKER. It's bad. Real bad. This guy writhed in his hospital bed for a week because no pain medicines would help. He was getting 12 mg of hydromorphone IV a day, in addition to a fentanyl patch. IV hydromorphone is 20 times as potent as oral morphine It did almost nothing for him, while a dose like that would kill me. I truly hope you "pain meds every day" guys never get sick with something that causes acute pain. It's going to be tough for you. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 8:56:05 AM EDT
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I would have been much happier thinking he was someone's troll account. I take no joy in seeing someone wrestling with stuff like this. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 9:06:38 AM EDT
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Maybe the price went up because reimbursement rates for Medicare and Medicaid suck ass.
Welcome to Obamacare. Why do you hate capitalism? Why do you hate freedom? Go be addicted somewhere else. Go be poor somewhere else. That about sums it up 
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Posted: 6/24/2017 9:22:52 AM EDT
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So I am supposed to feel bad for OP and his heroin price increase because your daughters meds cost more than you think mine cost ? Glad to hear you are suddenly the expert on what my prescriptions cost and what is required to keep me alive. I must have missed the thread I started about how much my comfort meds cost me and how everyone is screwing me to keep me comfortable and in an affordable heroin script. Atleast OP can seek his meds out on the street. Good luck finding actual life saving meds from your friendly street dealer. Hell lets increase prices 100X if it decreases the prices of life saving drugs. Comfort vs Alive is a very real price point. Snowflake signing off and out of this retarded thread I should have never spoken truth into. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 11:59:01 PM EDT
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Then you should move your provider to Walgreens. I spent 4 months taking pain meds and said fuck that, I take advil these days, I am finally back to being able to poop again! Sorry buddy, no sympathy from me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol? What are you, a comedian? I've been on long-term opioids for my knees. I know a little about this stuff. And did you see the chart posted above? The highest price was Walgreens at $122. $199 is thievery. I spent 4 months taking pain meds and said fuck that, I take advil these days, I am finally back to being able to poop again! Sorry buddy, no sympathy from me. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:09:16 AM EDT
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And nobody is going to give him that many IR pills for fear of feeding the black market. ER tabs are hard to abuse. Junkies want IR tabs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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TheRealGhurkaDin, look into immediate release (IM) tablets of a lower dose. You will have to take them more often, but they are usually significantly cheaper than extended release. I was shopping around for oxycodone and the ER tabs (oxycontin) were 10 times more expensive. I don't know how much he is taking, but if it is 180 mg a day, that is more than a lot of doctors will write. Some pain specialists may still write that much, I don't know. I've been taking IM tablets for several years. Never had any problems with the "black market," but I try to take 50 mg. max a day, even though it barely takes the edge off the pain. I'd love to take NSAIDs, but not only are they ineffective, I'm specifically not allowed to take them. So it's opioids or nothing. And I would love to have knee replacement, but in my case it is extremely risky, so most docs tell me to suck it up and try to get by on pain meds. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:13:15 AM EDT
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Snort. You clearly do not understand basic English. No one was forced to buy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Based on my own experience, I think the $119 was about right. The $199 price is just thievery. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:14:10 AM EDT
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Holy shit. How much are the pills you take for the paranoia? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's my experience. I started on norco, but that didn't cut it so I went to a pain specialist and he gave me oxycodone. I got my oxycodone from costco for 2 months and then the price doubled. I didn't care, I had insurance. Two months later they told me they no longer carry oxycodone. So I went to CVS. Got oxycodone for 1 month from them before the price doubled. Two months later they tell me they no longer carry oxycodone. See a trend? I knew the price doubled based on the statements from my insurance. I finally went to Walgreens and have used them drama-free ever since. Over several years I have seen the price steadily increase, but by 5% a year maybe. Never 100%. A 100% increase can mean several things. They are fucking you. They undercharged to begin with, but based on the price quoted I don't think so. They are trying to dissuade you from being their customer (as costco and cvs probably did to me, although they said they don't carry it anymore.) Doctors don't like to write scripts for opioids and pharmacies don't like to carry them because of the added security needed, and the general bad name given to these drugs plus new state and federal regs. Remember what Obama said at the start of Obamacare? "Mr. and Mrs. Jones on Medicare, you may not be able to get your hip replaced anymore. You'll have to take a pain pill." And then they took the pain pills too.  |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:15:57 AM EDT
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Guess you need a new pharmacy?
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:18:37 AM EDT
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Psst...The hive doesn't believe that companies ever try to screw their customers... and whatever you do, don't mention the term "price gouging." There is no such thing according to the hive. Even when post Katrina gas stations jacked up their prices to $6 a gallon. It was for the good of the people, you understand? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's looking at an almost 100% price increase. You think the market price changed that much? Please...
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:20:48 AM EDT
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Pretty sure that was also supply and demand also. They had gasoline. You didn't Do any of you even own an actual business? This place is getting more FSA every week Don't like the price, shop elsewhere Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Psst...The hive doesn't believe that companies ever try to screw their customers... and whatever you do, don't mention the term "price gouging." There is no such thing according to the hive. Even when post Katrina gas stations jacked up their prices to $6 a gallon. It was for the good of the people, you understand? Do any of you even own an actual business? This place is getting more FSA every week Don't like the price, shop elsewhere |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:32:35 AM EDT
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No one said that when CTD gorged people on ammo. They said CTD were assholes, not "no one was forced." Maybe some people said it, but they were quickly shouted down for being assholes too. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:10:13 AM EDT
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I distinctly remembering most people here condemned the assholes selling water for $10/gallon, but I also remember there were some people then, like now, saying they should walk another 10 miles and buy from someone else.
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:20:12 AM EDT
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A problem is that we as Americans have a skewed idea of what acceptable pain is. Pain happens. My knees and back hurt. Sometimes it's pretty bad. I could easily go to a doctor and get on Norco. When Norco stops working, I could get on stronger stuff. Eventually I could get on MS Contin. It's easy to justify, because I didn't buy heroin behind a dumpster. A man who went to medical school told me to take a prescription drug. So it's totally different. Except it's not. There are people who need pain medicine. Most people taking pain medicine today should never have been given pain medicine in the first place. For an interesting story, I had a guy in the hospital not long ago who was a typical "muh back" pain medicine addict. He had a pot belly and chronic back pain, and instead of losing weight and strengthening his back muscles, he just takes pain medicine. Anyway, he got pancreatitis. For those who don't know, pancreatitis hurts like a MOTHERFUCKER. It's bad. Real bad. This guy writhed in his hospital bed for a week because no pain medicines would help. He was getting 12 mg of hydromorphone IV a day, in addition to a fentanyl patch. IV hydromorphone is 20 times as potent as oral morphine It did almost nothing for him, while a dose like that would kill me. I truly hope you "pain meds every day" guys never get sick with something that causes acute pain. It's going to be tough for you. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:30:02 AM EDT
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Strictly my conjecture here, but the price increase may be due to the lack of pills prescribed as marijuana becomes more and more available (legal) for folks who would rather use it than narcotics. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:34:34 AM EDT
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Costco>Sam's Club
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Posted: 6/25/2017 2:50:18 AM EDT
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And there are Arfcommers who can one-up you ten times over. I don't see them taking shots at the OP. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hey mr. heroin/morphine addict OP. Wanna try something fun on for size ? An epipen will cost me $300 on average with a coupon and if I can find a place that has the adrenaclick then I might get it for $120 with my insurance. You might get uncomfortable and even cry with out your dope. You know what happens if I don't have my epinephrine and end up stung by a bee ? I fucking die. Please go cry some where else. $9300 a month At least I hit my total out of pocket quickly
It's fun slamming money in the HSA all year to spend it all the first week of January |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 3:58:35 AM EDT
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Or maybe they know he needs the shit and are reaming him because they can? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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or maybe it reflects increased cost of their side... I'm with those who believe this is fallout from the WOD/opioids. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 4:06:30 AM EDT
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I think a bit of the CTD criticism came from the "-900% off of list price!" bullshit their website would show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No one said that when CTD gorged people on ammo. They said CTD were assholes, not "no one was forced." Maybe some people said it, but they were quickly shouted down for being assholes too. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 5:49:11 AM EDT
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Everybody loves capitalism until it happens to them. Supply and demand - they have the supply and can charge as much as they please from those who demand it. When drug sales go up, so will price. That's how drug dealers roll. Don't like it? Shop elsewhere until they've all raised prices.
That's what happens in world where doctors have become phamacutical farmers focused on bonus checks rather than patient care. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 10:43:16 AM EDT
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Here's my experience. I started on norco, but that didn't cut it so I went to a pain specialist and he gave me oxycodone. I got my oxycodone from costco for 2 months and then the price doubled. I didn't care, I had insurance. Two months later they told me they no longer carry oxycodone. So I went to CVS. Got oxycodone for 1 month from them before the price doubled. Two months later they tell me they no longer carry oxycodone. See a trend? I knew the price doubled based on the statements from my insurance. I finally went to Walgreens and have used them drama-free ever since. Over several years I have seen the price steadily increase, but by 5% a year maybe. Never 100%. A 100% increase can mean several things. They are fucking you. They undercharged to begin with, but based on the price quoted I don't think so. They are trying to dissuade you from being their customer (as costco and cvs probably did to me, although they said they don't carry it anymore.) Doctors don't like to write scripts for opioids and pharmacies don't like to carry them because of the added security needed, and the general bad name given to these drugs plus new state and federal regs. Remember what Obama said at the start of Obamacare? "Mr. and Mrs. Jones on Medicare, you may not be able to get your hip replaced anymore. You'll have to take a pain pill." And then they took the pain pills too. So so now you said no to drugs, played the game and you still cant go about your normal life. What do the high horsers say to you about that? Oh well not our problem. I'm not pro junky but I don't think this issue is solved by criminalizing substances that people wish to use. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 10:47:05 AM EDT
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Good thing we have a great doctor like yourself here to tell us who should and shouldn't be using certain medications. 
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Posted: 6/25/2017 10:58:04 AM EDT
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So I am supposed to feel bad for OP and his heroin price increase because your daughters meds cost more than you think mine cost ? Glad to hear you are suddenly the expert on what my prescriptions cost and what is required to keep me alive. I must have missed the thread I started about how much my comfort meds cost me and how everyone is screwing me to keep me comfortable and in an affordable heroin script. Atleast OP can seek his meds out on the street. Good luck finding actual life saving meds from your friendly street dealer. Hell lets increase prices 100X if it decreases the prices of life saving drugs. Comfort vs Alive is a very real price point. Snowflake signing off and out of this retarded thread I should have never spoken truth into. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And I probably spend more on my daughter's medications than you spend on yours. And they are, indeed, life saving medications. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 11:06:07 AM EDT
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Yeah, I'm sure having an allergy to something that might happen or happens infrequently is way worse than 24/7 debilitating pain. You jumped in this thread and called him a heroin addict and mentioned "comfort meds" no less than 4 times. I don't know op or his situation. He could be a stage 4 cancer patient for all you or I know. Man your post was very low class. By the way I don't envy having to keep a needle of shit on me 24/7. So I do empathize. But you just plain come across wrong man. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This snowflake is still trying to figure out how he is the bad guy for pointing out OP is crying about comfort meds while folks die every day because they can't afford life saving meds. You jumped in this thread and called him a heroin addict and mentioned "comfort meds" no less than 4 times. I don't know op or his situation. He could be a stage 4 cancer patient for all you or I know. Man your post was very low class. By the way I don't envy having to keep a needle of shit on me 24/7. So I do empathize. But you just plain come across wrong man.
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:08:26 PM EDT
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My very good friends that died from cancer were not prescribed slow release morphine. They all had the fast acting morphine prescriptions because it did not matter if they became addicted or not. It's said to see them go through that.
I have to say that if one is not using morphine due to a terminal illness, it's best do to what ever is possible to get off the opiate prescriptions. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:11:39 PM EDT
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Or maybe they know he needs the shit and are reaming him because they can? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/25/2017 12:13:50 PM EDT
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Maybe Sam's was charging quite a bit under market and decided to stop doing so. I've been told that's what makes Walmart so dastardly. Their low prices force all the other people out of business. Maybe they just decided to stop being so dastardly. Oh well. You should really call up the Federal Trade Commission. They're the ones who investigate these kinds of things. Be sure to provide them with all of your evidence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's looking at an almost 100% price increase. You think the market price changed that much? Please... I've been told that's what makes Walmart so dastardly. Their low prices force all the other people out of business. Maybe they just decided to stop being so dastardly. Oh well. You should really call up the Federal Trade Commission. They're the ones who investigate these kinds of things. Be sure to provide them with all of your evidence. |
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Shop somewhere else.
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