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Posted: 8/22/2018 6:33:44 AM EDT
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you must hang out on Reddit
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Posted: 8/22/2018 6:38:10 AM EDT
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They weren't pried open, the crew purposely ejected them. They're somewhere a few miles back from where they sank and a few miles down from sea level.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 6:39:15 AM EDT
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Glomar Explorer got there first
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Posted: 8/22/2018 6:39:25 AM EDT
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What was that movie with George Clooney, and the repurposed Israeli nuke?
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Posted: 8/22/2018 6:58:35 AM EDT
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Glomar Explorer got there first |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 7:26:06 AM EDT
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Actually, the sub was missing its espresso machine.
Maybe it was their Sno-Cone maker... Or their water heater? |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 7:30:17 AM EDT
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Actually, the sub was missing its espresso machine. Maybe it was their Sno-Cone maker... Or their water heater? |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:12:13 AM EDT
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Arfcom group buy?
They must be for sale somewhere, GD would come to a conscience so fast on where to use them. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:15:18 AM EDT
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Sounds like a movie plot
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:20:46 AM EDT
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If true....hopefully the only folks able to do anything like that is US.
I'm sure the USA would gleefully examine the latest Soviet ICMB, even if a little water logged. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:28:54 AM EDT
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What was that movie with George Clooney, and the repurposed Israeli nuke? |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:35:10 AM EDT
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I get that reference. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:37:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Glomar Explorer got there first |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:37:43 AM EDT
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Cold War tech, think what is the current state of the art.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-nearly-forgotten-story-super-secret-us-navy-spy-18595 http://www.hisutton.com/Secret%20Sub%20-%20USS%20Halibut.html |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:40:47 AM EDT
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They weren't pried open, the crew purposely ejected them. They're somewhere a few miles back from where they sank and a few miles down from sea level. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:42:21 AM EDT
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I've seen that movie.
Kinda silly, but we win. Why worry? |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:46:06 AM EDT
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Read the linky. It gets more and more interesting. I am beginning to suspect that we did pull a Glomar or maybe a subsurface Glomar like exercise with ROVs. We certainly have the technology. There are plenty of ROVs operating in the gulf at 6000 ft easy.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:53:48 AM EDT
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Arfcom group buy? They must be for sale somewhere, GD would come to a conscience so fast on where to use them. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:58:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Battery Aziz..... I picked them. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:05:59 AM EDT
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Battery Aziz..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I get that reference. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:08:12 AM EDT
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18,000 feet of water? Sweet. The next time somebody brings me a sketchy nuclear weapon to refurbish, and it looks like it might have been crushed by water pressure, I'll be a little more leery about latent effects from criticality issues. Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:09:02 AM EDT
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They weren't pried open, the crew purposely ejected them. They're somewhere a few miles back from where they sank and a few miles down from sea level. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:09:13 AM EDT
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SO what would you do with a few 1970's era soviet nuke warheads that hadn't been maintained since 1986 and had to be (hypothetically) retrieved from about 18,000ft of saltwater where they sat for at least a few years? Even IF you managed to survive extracting the nuclear materiel despite booby traps and safety's ---at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars--what would you then do with your prize? The implication is that somebody "stole" the missiles and warheads for some sort of nefarious use.
Other than us or the soviets salvaging them -highly doubtful. They are not "missing" nobody has really looked for them. The 219 sailed with one silo disabled due to a previous accident. that leaves 15. One was ejected with 2 warheads at the start of the accident. Other missile tubes were opened to vent gasses by the crew during the accident. More than likely those missiles exploded when their fuel came into contact with seawater--albeit under the ocean and abandoned. those remains are scattered around the wreck somewhere. The ship broke in half behind the conning tower-where the missile tubes are-and those missiles were likely effected also. I doubt if any missiles or warheads are "missing" the soviets and the US kept pretty close eyes on the wreck. Unless you happen to be Ernst Stavro Blofeld or Goldfinger ,in which case it would be cheaper to build your own, no-one has the resources to retrieve the crappy ass and incredibly dangerous prone to explode in seawater 1970's era missiles and shitty soviet era warheads nor would anyone want to. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:11:18 AM EDT
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Read the linky. It gets more and more interesting. I am beginning to suspect that we did pull a Glomar or maybe a subsurface Glomar like exercise with ROVs. We certainly have the technology. There are plenty of ROVs operating in the gulf at 6000 ft easy. This is why Mars can't have nice things. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:22:45 AM EDT
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We should detonate them out of safety. And live stream the explosion.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:31:19 AM EDT
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Sounds like a James Bond movie plot |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:32:22 AM EDT
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Arfcom group buy? They must be for sale somewhere, GD would come to a conscience so fast on where to use them. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:32:48 AM EDT
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Spain claimed them.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:34:36 AM EDT
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Or the Russians never had the missiles and were playing a game of hide the ball under a cup and pretending they were armed and stocked well.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:44:25 AM EDT
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We got there first with one of our subs and took them.
(sorry, I'm in the middle of Blind Mans Bluff). 
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:45:01 AM EDT
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One of the cable news channels (not CNN/Fox/MSNBC) scrolled a headline about missing nuclear powered missiles.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:51:12 AM EDT
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So someone stole some warheads in a sunken soviet sub that the soviets did not have the tech at the time to retrieve.
I think we all can guess who took those warheads. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:52:33 AM EDT
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I bet this boat was involved.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:54:16 AM EDT
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I’m honestly surprised that more ‘Soviet era warheads’ aren’t missing.
Or maybe they are and we just don’t know about it |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:56:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
SO what would you do with a few 1970's era soviet nuke warheads that hadn't been maintained since 1986 and had to be (hypothetically) retrieved from about 18,000ft of saltwater where they sat for at least a few years? Even IF you managed to survive extracting the nuclear materiel despite booby traps and safety's ---at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars--what would you then do with your prize? The implication is that somebody "stole" the missiles and warheads for some sort of nefarious use. Other than us or the soviets salvaging them -highly doubtful. They are not "missing" nobody has really looked for them. The 219 sailed with one silo disabled due to a previous accident. that leaves 15. One was ejected with 2 warheads at the start of the accident. Other missile tubes were opened to vent gasses by the crew during the accident. More than likely those missiles exploded when their fuel came into contact with seawater--albeit under the ocean and abandoned. those remains are scattered around the wreck somewhere. The ship broke in half behind the conning tower-where the missile tubes are-and those missiles were likely effected also. I doubt if any missiles or warheads are "missing" the soviets and the US kept pretty close eyes on the wreck. Unless you happen to be Ernst Stavro Blofeld or Goldfinger ,in which case it would be cheaper to build your own, no-one has the resources to retrieve the crappy ass and incredibly dangerous prone to explode in seawater 1970's era missiles and shitty soviet era warheads nor would anyone want to. 
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Posted: 8/22/2018 9:59:17 AM EDT
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We got there first with one of our subs and took them. (sorry, I'm in the middle of Blind Mans Bluff). https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51nYicn7iKL._SX326_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:00:52 AM EDT
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Meters. It's at 6000 meters. This is why Mars can't have nice things. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:06:54 AM EDT
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Would you recommend it? Meaning that book Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We got there first with one of our subs and took them. (sorry, I'm in the middle of Blind Mans Bluff). https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51nYicn7iKL._SX326_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg It's certainly old news, but it's very interesting stuff. I was unaware of some of the things we accomplished with submarine espionage, and some of it is fascinating. ETA: Ha...... they just got to this boat in the book: Quoted:
I bet this boat was involved. https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Fff%2F27%2Ff2%2Fff27f2ce698659341b78ac094d418432.jpg&f=1 |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:22:00 AM EDT
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One of the cable news channels (not CNN/Fox/MSNBC) scrolled a headline about missing nuclear powered missiles. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:26:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:28:33 AM EDT
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So we have a Russian missile?
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:28:41 AM EDT
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So someone stole some warheads in a sunken soviet sub that the soviets did not have the tech at the time to retrieve. I think we all can guess who took those warheads.  
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:34:09 AM EDT
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18,000 feet of water? Sweet. The next time somebody brings me a sketchy nuclear weapon to refurbish, and it looks like it might have been crushed by water pressure, I'll be a little more leery about latent effects from criticality issues. Thanks for the heads up. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:37:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
SO what would you do with a few 1970's era soviet nuke warheads that hadn't been maintained since 1986 and had to be (hypothetically) retrieved from about 18,000ft of saltwater where they sat for at least a few years? Even IF you managed to survive extracting the nuclear materiel despite booby traps and safety's ---at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars--what would you then do with your prize? The implication is that somebody "stole" the missiles and warheads for some sort of nefarious use. Other than us or the soviets salvaging them -highly doubtful. They are not "missing" nobody has really looked for them. The 219 sailed with one silo disabled due to a previous accident. that leaves 15. One was ejected with 2 warheads at the start of the accident. Other missile tubes were opened to vent gasses by the crew during the accident. More than likely those missiles exploded when their fuel came into contact with seawater--albeit under the ocean and abandoned. those remains are scattered around the wreck somewhere. The ship broke in half behind the conning tower-where the missile tubes are-and those missiles were likely effected also. I doubt if any missiles or warheads are "missing" the soviets and the US kept pretty close eyes on the wreck. Unless you happen to be Ernst Stavro Blofeld or Goldfinger ,in which case it would be cheaper to build your own, no-one has the resources to retrieve the crappy ass and incredibly dangerous prone to explode in seawater 1970's era missiles and shitty soviet era warheads nor would anyone want to. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:42:30 AM EDT
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"the next time"???? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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18,000 feet of water? Sweet. The next time somebody brings me a sketchy nuclear weapon to refurbish, and it looks like it might have been crushed by water pressure, I'll be a little more leery about latent effects from criticality issues. Thanks for the heads up. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 10:58:51 AM EDT
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18,000 feet of water? Sweet. The next time somebody brings me a sketchy nuclear weapon to refurbish, and it looks like it might have been crushed by water pressure, I'll be a little more leery about latent effects from criticality issues. Thanks for the heads up. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 11:02:07 AM EDT
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We got there first with one of our subs and took them. (sorry, I'm in the middle of Blind Mans Bluff). https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51nYicn7iKL._SX326_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 11:03:52 AM EDT
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Actually, the sub was missing its espresso machine. Maybe it was their Sno-Cone maker... Or their water heater? 
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Posted: 8/22/2018 11:09:05 AM EDT
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What was that movie with George Clooney, and the repurposed Israeli nuke? |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 11:27:06 AM EDT
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despite booby traps and safety's What do they teach kids these days? To flip a coin at the end of any word ending with the letter “s” to determine whether or not to include an apostrophe in the general vicinity? |
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