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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:17:14 AM EDT
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People who actually care about proper equipment selection? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing because shotguns suck for home defense pussies. Get a rifle. FIFY Says the Arfcom user who is quite obviously ignorant of anything in the field of terminal ballistics. Inside 7 yards, who gives a fuck? People who actually care about proper equipment selection? "Propper equipment selection" Lol. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:19:06 AM EDT
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Your neighbors, or maybe your kids behind the perp in their bedroom? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nothing because shotguns suck for home defense pussies. Get a rifle. FIFY Says the Arfcom user who is quite obviously ignorant of anything in the field of terminal ballistics. Inside 7 yards, who gives a fuck? Don't have any. House is stone three sides, load is #4 buck, frangible. Any more questions? |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:23:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't have any. House is stone three sides, load is #4 buck, frangible. Any more questions? |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:25:31 AM EDT
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Federal Flite Control 00 buck 2 3/4" full power.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:26:33 AM EDT
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In order of appearance, game, game, Buck, Buck, SLUG. Because that is the way dad did it. Oy vey |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:27:05 AM EDT
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Winchester 00 2 3/4" Magnum.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:29:20 AM EDT
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"Propper equipment selection" Lol. So you don't know what that means. Got it. You could have just said that. 
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:30:57 AM EDT
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In order of appearance, game, game, Buck, Buck, SLUG. Because that is the way dad did it. Seems like sound reasoning. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:33:42 AM EDT
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Understand that the shotgun is, at best, a tertiary weapon for me, so I haven't spent any real time tracking down "the best" ammo. I keep it loaded and in the back room, just in case I'm back there without my AR and need a gun. That being said, mine is loaded with Winchester Ranger low recoil 00. It patterns acceptably and would, most likely, work if I needed it to. I keep meaning to try out the flitecontrol stuff from Federal, but the vast majority of my shotgun shooting is birdshot.
On a different note, these threads are great to see who shoots and who owns guns to feel like a "man." |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:33:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't have any. House is stone three sides, load is #4 buck, frangible. Any more questions? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Says the Arfcom user who is quite obviously ignorant of anything in the field of terminal ballistics. Inside 7 yards, who gives a fuck? Don't have any. House is stone three sides, load is #4 buck, frangible. Any more questions? |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:34:08 AM EDT
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Nothing because shotguns suck for home defense. Get a rifle. Reading comprehension failure |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:39:41 AM EDT
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1 or 4 buck. This in 3". |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:40:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reading comprehension failure Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nothing because shotguns suck for home defense. Get a rifle. Reading comprehension failure |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:41:26 AM EDT
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Don't have any. House is stone three sides, load is #4 buck, frangible. Any more questions? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Says the Arfcom user who is quite obviously ignorant of anything in the field of terminal ballistics. Inside 7 yards, who gives a fuck? Don't have any. House is stone three sides, load is #4 buck, frangible. Any more questions? Yeah. Why do you hate facts? |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:48:16 AM EDT
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But what if I want shallow and gruesome?
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:50:45 AM EDT
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When I read these threads I often wonder how many people here have actually seen someone who has been shot, much less with various shotgun loads. Just for fun, do a google image search for buckshot wounds and you'll get an idea what a load of buckshot will do. I'm not saying it's the best/ideal load, I don't think there really is a "best" load, they're all compromises in some way, but at the distances within a house it's certainly not "ineffective", not that I would want to be downrange any round for that matter.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:53:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I read these threads I often wonder how many people here have actually seen someone who has been shot, much less with various shotgun loads. Just for fun, do a google image search for buckshot wounds and you'll get an idea what a load of buckshot will do. I'm not saying it's the best/ideal load, I don't think there really is a "best" load, they're all compromises in some way, but at the distances within a house it's certainly not "ineffective", not that I would want to be downrange any round for that matter. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:56:51 AM EDT
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When I read these threads I often wonder how many people here have actually seen someone who has been shot, much less with various shotgun loads. Just for fun, do a google image search for buckshot wounds and you'll get an idea what a load of buckshot will do. I'm not saying it's the best/ideal load, I don't think there really is a "best" load, they're all compromises in some way, but at the distances within a house it's certainly not "ineffective", not that I would want to be downrange any round for that matter. I've never seen anyone claim them to be "ineffective", just not ideal. There are tons of people who have been killed by .22LR. Doesn't make it ideal. The point is, a shotgun is a compromise in nearly every category when compared to a rifle. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 1:59:42 AM EDT
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Nothing because shotguns suck for home defense. Get a rifle. This. There may be better options but nothing wrong with a shotgun, kid. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:01:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I read these threads I often wonder how many people here have actually seen someone who has been shot, much less with various shotgun loads. Just for fun, do a google image search for buckshot wounds and you'll get an idea what a load of buckshot will do. I'm not saying it's the best/ideal load, I don't think there really is a "best" load, they're all compromises in some way, but at the distances within a house it's certainly not "ineffective", not that I would want to be downrange any round for that matter. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:01:18 AM EDT
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Worried about bear break ins?
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:02:34 AM EDT
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But what if I want shallow and gruesome? Date an obese 20 year old nympho? |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:04:58 AM EDT
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I've never seen anyone claim them to be "ineffective", just not ideal. There are tons of people who have been killed by .22LR. Doesn't make it ideal. The point is, a shotgun is a compromise in nearly every category when compared to a rifle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When I read these threads I often wonder how many people here have actually seen someone who has been shot, much less with various shotgun loads. Just for fun, do a google image search for buckshot wounds and you'll get an idea what a load of buckshot will do. I'm not saying it's the best/ideal load, I don't think there really is a "best" load, they're all compromises in some way, but at the distances within a house it's certainly not "ineffective", not that I would want to be downrange any round for that matter. I've never seen anyone claim them to be "ineffective", just not ideal. There are tons of people who have been killed by .22LR. Doesn't make it ideal. The point is, a shotgun is a compromise in nearly every category when compared to a rifle. The main one is capacity and slow reloading. I'll take 30 or 40 rounds per reload over 10 or less. But I still have several home defense shotguns around the house. If I had to shoot through walls, or cabinates, or a bookcase, or a table or a kitchen appliance and still knock down the person on the other side I would want a shotgun over n 556 AR, but a ..308 or even a 9mm or 45ACP pistol cal carbine would be better than a shotgun. despite all that a shotgun has it's uses IMO. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:10:56 AM EDT
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I've settled on this load or the Federal LE132-1B (low recoil buckshot #1, 15 pellet) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fed LE13200. I've settled on this load or the Federal LE132-1B (low recoil buckshot #1, 15 pellet) Yup, same for me. Although bumps in the night normally get checked out with my pistol, the 590 and an AR are within easy reach. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:24:56 AM EDT
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Probably bird shot, since the most likely reason for me to be using the shotgun would be that I'm either headed out to or coming back from shooting clays and literally already had it in my hands. Otherwise, it's 9mm, .357 or .223.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:26:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:27:09 AM EDT
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Federal H132 00 buckshot, 9 pellet, reduced recoil.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:40:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I read these threads I often wonder how many people here have actually seen someone who has been shot, much less with various shotgun loads. Just for fun, do a google image search for buckshot wounds and you'll get an idea what a load of buckshot will do. I'm not saying it's the best/ideal load, I don't think there really is a "best" load, they're all compromises in some way, but at the distances within a house it's certainly not "ineffective", not that I would want to be downrange any round for that matter. ETA- since you read these threads you should have known that right? |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:50:28 AM EDT
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Anything from 00 to #4.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:56:42 AM EDT
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Birdshot of course. All three barrels at the same time will do the trick. http://files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2013/04/DSC_7267_phatchjpeg_phatchjpeg-661x439.jpg That dude's head has a few moons orbiting it. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:58:57 AM EDT
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Birdshot of course. All three barrels at the same time will do the trick. http://files.harrispublications.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2013/04/DSC_7267_phatchjpeg_phatchjpeg-661x439.jpg That dude's head has a few moons orbiting it. That's no fivehead. That's a space station! |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:04:34 AM EDT
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Semi auto.
First round is a 3" lead bb. after that is seven #4 buck. Reloads are 3" 00 buck. Thin walls means I worry about over penetration. but if a fight with a shotgun goes thru a full mag tube then well things have gone bad |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:06:58 AM EDT
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Buckshot, slug, mag turkey load duplexed.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:09:10 AM EDT
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If SHTF so bad that I am grabbing my shotgun, 8 rounds of reduced recoil 00 buck, chamber empty with a side saddle holding 2 powerball slugs and 6 more rounds of 00 buck.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:15:21 AM EDT
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Being I can't have an AR for defense here I keep a Mossberg 590 loaded with #7.5 birdshot... it'll fuck up soft flesh without punching through walls to my neighbors.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:16:08 AM EDT
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Being I can't have an AR for defense here I keep a Mossberg 590 loaded with #7.5 birdshot... it'll fuck up soft flesh without punching through walls to my neighbors. You're doing it wrong. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:17:29 AM EDT
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Being I can't have an AR for defense here I keep a Mossberg 590 loaded with #7.5 birdshot... it'll fuck up soft flesh without punching through walls to my neighbors. You're doing it wrong. Oh ok just give me an M4 and some 30 round mags. Thanks. Better add a silencer too while you're at it just to make sure I ahve the full package. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:36:33 AM EDT
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Being I can't have an AR for defense here I keep a Mossberg 590 loaded with #7.5 birdshot... it'll fuck up soft flesh without punching through walls to my neighbors. Well you can, they just don't want you too. 
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:37:35 AM EDT
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#1 Buck, Federal
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:47:53 AM EDT
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Oh ok just give me an M4 and some 30 round mags. Thanks. Better add a silencer too while you're at it just to make sure I ahve the full package. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Being I can't have an AR for defense here I keep a Mossberg 590 loaded with #7.5 birdshot... it'll fuck up soft flesh without punching through walls to my neighbors. You're doing it wrong. Oh ok just give me an M4 and some 30 round mags. Thanks. Better add a silencer too while you're at it just to make sure I ahve the full package. I won't give you one, but you can buy one. ETA: If you don't have the mags, I can't help you. Google featureless if you want to install them in your AR. Not sure how a shotgun is more quiet than a rifle indoors. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 4:46:57 AM EDT
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00 buck
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Posted: 8/29/2016 4:47:08 AM EDT
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#1 Buck.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 5:02:35 AM EDT
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2.75" 00 buck.
I happen to know that it kills the shit out of stuff. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 5:14:11 AM EDT
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Basement/storage room shotgun has Federal Low recoil 00 buck and a side saddle full of PDX segmenting slugs. Although its highly unlikely I'll ever be anywhere in my house without another gun, I got it cheap enough I gave it a job and don't care if something happens to it.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 5:18:39 AM EDT
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#9 birdshot, it removes meat from the bone and makes bad guys fly backward.
....I no longer use a shotgun for HD purposes, but back when I did it was 00 buck. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 5:25:48 AM EDT
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5.56mm
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Posted: 8/29/2016 5:30:24 AM EDT
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Buck and 3" black cloud or some lighter bird shot mixed in every other with a slug now and then. .
Because why? Being under the knife for HOURS getting small bb's out will be torture in itself. Pepper em up |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 5:43:22 AM EDT
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Winchester 33 g #00 Buck, gives me the penetration I need from a 16" Saiga barrel.
This is essentially the mil spec buckshot load in civilian packaging, also used by FDF and Finnish Police. If it's good enough for shooting an armed felon in the head from the firing port of an APC, it's good enough for any HD situation. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 5:50:23 AM EDT
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Birdshot at indoor distances is like a .72 caliber glazer safety slug.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 5:55:09 AM EDT
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No 2 turkey load
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