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Link Posted: 8/5/2019 5:14:34 PM EST
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Going back to the original question - would I buy a Tesla?  I have to say NO, but I don't buy any bleeding edge technology.  I just got rid of my last tube TV a month ago.  I seriously question the viability of the brand going forward.  Electric cars are here to stay, but Tesla may not be the brand IMO.
Link Posted: 8/5/2019 5:22:46 PM EST
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If insurance companies refuse to insure them because there is no secondary market to recoup costs, none of this will matter.
Link Posted: 8/5/2019 5:35:41 PM EST
[#3]
Just buy a lexus.

Atleast in 10 years its still a LEXUS.

in 10 years will Tesla be around???  

Those that say Yes they will be around,
Link Posted: 8/5/2019 6:01:44 PM EST
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Just buy a lexus.

Atleast in 10 years its still a LEXUS.

in 10 years will Tesla be around???  

Those that say Yes they will be around,
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After the Porsche dealer visit I’m gonna take the wife to look at an RC-F or LC500
Link Posted: 8/5/2019 6:02:02 PM EST
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Yes have the $20k to pay off student loans. Wife doesn't like spending that much at once. So them being paid off by years end is the plan.
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Wife doesn't pay off $20k of debt because she doesn't like spending that much at once but is just fine taking on an additional $110k of debt on a car (of all things) because that debt isn't like really spending money.
Link Posted: 8/5/2019 8:20:55 PM EST
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I voted yes.  Before the "fuck Tesla" come out, I'm a gear head and always will be.  I will always have a gas powered truck and I dig my diesel Mahindra Roxor.  And yes, it's a daily driver with plans to use a old Nissan Patrol body for a body on frame swap.  I've been looking at a Tesla for a while.  Same reason, for wife.  But I say the Tesla will outlast a conventional ICE vehicle in the long run.

Tesla did their own thing with their own batteries.  Nissan, BMW, VW, Chevy and others didn't.  They all use a few batteries sources that are more conventional, as in older design.  So advanced is Tesla in their design Tesla power walls are outperforming.... no body.  No one else has a power wall,  Same battery tech. AND Tesla bought Maxwell Superconductors, the next gen in electric storage.  So the already next gen battery company, bought the next next gen power storage.  And Tesla has been very aggressive in expansion of their battery world wide.

EV vs ICE car..
EV has 100's of parts.  A ICE car has 1000's.  Drop a valve, timing belt break, ... damned blown head gasket, piece of shit CVT goes out, do I go on? Not that a EV is impervious from failure but looking hard at Tesla, it's not complicated at all.  No friken check engine light and "what now this time" crap.

"Full" tank every morning.  Well if you follow the way you run Teslas, 80% capacity for average use in the morning.  The only reason you will need to stop at at gas station is for coffee and the mandatory dump you will need to take after the coffee.  And air in the tires.

Advanced features all current automotive industry had for years, Tesla is doing it.  Self driving is safer than what you think.  SO effective a totally drunk passed out driver used it and the cops only stopped the car by using it's built in self driving features.  By blocking it in and stopping the vehicle.  Yeah, we heard the stories.  Just like evil black guns.  Millions out there and something happened to one or two.  What about the daily crashes of ones without? Distracted drivers, someone had a heart attack, so on.  Imagine having a medical emergency while driving.  Which one would you rather be in?  The auto pilot feature is scheduled to be released.  And as someone else complained about the updates, you don't have to do anything.  It's done autonomously.

As far as the long haul, I've seen where Tesla has put their super charge stations.  Looked hard throughout Nevada. Only a few stretches may be an issue but really, 99% of the area is well covered and only bound to expand.

Performance is phenomenal comparing to most cars, or all production class car.  A Tesla will smoke it.

Drawback:
Charge time.  I know Tesla explored the quick battery change option but have since dropped it.  Basically you put in X location and Teslas will guide you to charge spots.  So may have to wait 20 min to 1 hr.

Updated models will soon make your Tesla obsolete.  But thats all cars.  And with their current batt tech expected to last 500k or more miles, yeah, I can see Teslas being on the road for decades

Batteries don't like cold weather.  That issue is manageable and being worked on.  But for most of the US Tesla will do fine.

It's a new company with a new tech.  So was the computers, cell phones, sat radios, sat TV,... now they are household names and appliances.  Eventually the convetional gas burning car was bound to be replaced.  But the car isn't.

As of now it's only cars.  I'm OK with that.

I cannot see how you can go wrong with a Tesla.  The company is making sure their product is profitable.  And they are succeeding.  Doesn't matter what the negative nancies say.  It works.
Link Posted: 8/5/2019 8:26:05 PM EST
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Not yet, going to try to do that on Wednesday.

Checked out the BMW i3 wife didn't like it
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OP,

There are some fantastic electric offerings either here or coming from Jag, Audi, Porsche, you name it.

You check out the Jaguar E thingy yet?
Not yet, going to try to do that on Wednesday.

Checked out the BMW i3 wife didn't like it
They all use the same battery manufacturer.  Tesla has their own with a better more efficient design and Tesla bought Maxwell superconductors that will be even better.  I won't be surprised to see Tesla power packs in all makes. Kinda sucks for them.
Link Posted: 8/6/2019 1:58:46 PM EST
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I gave her some options with the model 3 and talked about leasing. She doesn’t want a 3 not against leasing an S or X.

She’s kinda excited about the Porsche visit but wants an all electric. I’m hoping someone at the dealership is up on the upcoming Taycan.

After Porsche we’ll look at Lexus LC500 hybrid.

Going to take her to see the Kia Stinger for shits and giggles.
Link Posted: 8/6/2019 2:03:18 PM EST
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I gave her some options with the model 3 and talked about leasing. She doesn’t want a 3 not against leasing an S or X.

She’s kinda excited about the Porsche visit but wants an all electric. I’m hoping someone at the dealership is up on the upcoming Taycan.

After Porsche we’ll look at Lexus LC500 hybrid.

Going to take her to see the Kia Stinger for shits and giggles.
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I heard Taycans are way backordered.

You don't like the Jag?
Link Posted: 8/6/2019 2:11:34 PM EST
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I heard Taycans are way backordered.

You don't like the Jag?
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Yes I do and I showed her a video on the Jag last night. We are going to try check it out this weekend.
Link Posted: 8/21/2019 12:35:32 AM EST
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STUDENT LOANS ARE PAID OFF!
Link Posted: 8/21/2019 1:26:21 AM EST
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Buy the Tesla. I did a lease take over on a used Model S 85 and quickly traded it in on a LR RWD Model 3 in April of last year. Go for the Model 3. Faster charge rate from the Superchargers,handles better than the Model S or X and has newer tech other than the really new "raven" S and X that has the adaptive suspension. I've put 35,000 miles on mine in 16 months with zero issues. As far as financing I used Alliant credit union and got 2.9% for 84 months with about 4000 down. My car was $56,000 with every option expect the FSD. You can get the Performance 3 for that price now.I did get the full $7500 tax credit verse the $1800 that's available through the end of the year.As far as home charging a 14-50 240 volt plug will give you around 30 miles of charge per hour for the S,3 and X. I routinely do Memphis to Austin,TX with no issues. I stop and charge twice for a total of about an hour on that trip. Autopilot is great for reducing driver fatigue. Any question feel free to PM me. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 8/21/2019 10:07:16 AM EST
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Buy the Tesla. I did a lease take over on a used Model S 85 and quickly traded it in on a LR RWD Model 3 in April of last year. Go for the Model 3. Faster charge rate from the Superchargers,handles better than the Model S or X and has newer tech other than the really new "raven" S and X that has the adaptive suspension. I've put 35,000 miles on mine in 16 months with zero issues. As far as financing I used Alliant credit union and got 2.9% for 84 months with about 4000 down. My car was $56,000 with every option expect the FSD. You can get the Performance 3 for that price now.I did get the full $7500 tax credit verse the $1800 that's available through the end of the year. Has far as home charging a 14-50 240 volt plug will give you around 30 miles of charge per hour for the S,3 and X. I routinely do Memphis to Austin,TX with no issues. I stop and charge twice for a total of about an hour on that trip. Autopilot is great for reducing driver fatigue. Any question feel free to PM me. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/474620/20190803_BQ5I5932__1565850881_74013_jpg-1061943.JPG
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Thank you!
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