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Posted: 9/9/2014 9:27:35 AM EDT
be stripped of his ability to make a living??
I have worked with several guys that have done far worse than punch their wife or GF. Their ability to earn a living was not taken from them. NO, I DO NOT support what he did….. it's not OK. I think he should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and been jailed but he wasn't. So, considering that there are doctors, lawyers, plumbers, congressmen, etc. that have committed the same crime and their ability to earn a living was not taken from them, is it fair that Ray Rice has been stripped of his ability to earn a living at his chosen profession? Is it a matter of "punishing the rich"? Every talking head has been spouting " the rich NFL" and " the most successful league in history". What's that got to do with it? If the government saw fit not to punish him in any meaningful way, should political correctness be used against him? |
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The Ravens released him. He was not kicked out of the NFL.
ETA: Yes, the NFL did suspend him, That happened after the original release that called him a free agent. Sorry |
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"On July 16, 2012, Rice agreed to a 5-year, $35 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens"
I think he's doing OK. |
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I don't get the frenzy over this. How the fuck does everyone think she got knocked out in the first place, butterfly kisses??? When I saw him drag her out of the elevator SIX MONTHS AGO, I knew he hit her There was no mystery. HE ADMITTED IT AND WAS PUNISHED. He admitted he was an asshole and needed help. To me, it seemed genuine. Has he done it since? I haven't heard anything. This subsequent bullshit is mob hysteria generated by Fuckbook and Twits and smacks of double jeopardy. Ahhh, fuck this shit. People are idiots.
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Quoted: Didn't the NFL suspend him indefinitely? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Ravens released him. He was not kicked out of the NFL. i had not heard it
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Should people that worship "pro" sports be given a mental evaluation?
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PR, how does it work? The ravens are a private organization that felt like he would be a bad representation of them, so they cut ties. The nfl saw the backlash from the original two game suspension, and when this video came out knew it would be a nightmare if they didnt bring down the hammer. So in short, a private organization decided it doesnt want to have ties with him. No one is taking away his ability to make a living. If he is football or bust, that is his own decision. It is no different than when that CEO got fired for going through the chic filet drive through and harassing the employee. If you are a face of your employer, and you do somethin that will make them look bad for keeping you, they will get rid of you. Nobody has a right to be unconditionally employed by the company of their choice unless they write the checks.
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he has a degree from rutgers.... he should be fine.....
let him make a living at walmart. Any company that hires him and promotes him as a "star" gets to deal with his. issues in the public. |
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Quoted: That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "On July 16, 2012, Rice agreed to a 5-year, $35 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens" I think he's doing OK. That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. No, I'm falling into the "screw the abusive scumbag" crowd. Regarding "the bulk of that contract", even if he only gets paid two years' worth, that's $14M. Why would he have to worry about making a living with $14M in the bank? |
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No, I'm falling into the "screw the abusive scumbag" crowd. Regarding "the bulk of that contract", even if he only gets paid two years' worth, that's $14M. Why would he have to worry about making a living with $14M in the bank? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"On July 16, 2012, Rice agreed to a 5-year, $35 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens" I think he's doing OK. That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. No, I'm falling into the "screw the abusive scumbag" crowd. Regarding "the bulk of that contract", even if he only gets paid two years' worth, that's $14M. Why would he have to worry about making a living with $14M in the bank? The money isn't the issue and should not be considered in the mix. The question is…… should he be stripped of his ability to make a living in his chosen profession? Again, considering that their are men from all walks of life and in all professions that did not lose their jobs over the same type situation. |
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Maybe the CFL is not so picky about woman beaters.
Jokes aside a year off is plenty good enough. After all the dumb-ass woman married him after he knocked her out. |
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The money isn't the issue and should not be considered in the mix. The question is…… should he be stripped of his ability to make a living in his chosen profession? Again, considering that their are men from all walks of life and in all professions that did not lose their jobs over the same type situation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"On July 16, 2012, Rice agreed to a 5-year, $35 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens" I think he's doing OK. That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. No, I'm falling into the "screw the abusive scumbag" crowd. Regarding "the bulk of that contract", even if he only gets paid two years' worth, that's $14M. Why would he have to worry about making a living with $14M in the bank? The money isn't the issue and should not be considered in the mix. The question is…… should he be stripped of his ability to make a living in his chosen profession? Again, considering that their are men from all walks of life and in all professions that did not lose their jobs over the same type situation. Once again, read my post above. He wasnt stripped of any right. When you are high profile and you do something that makes your employer look bad they have the right to cut ties with you. |
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I'm sure there are morality clauses attached to his contract.
He will be fine, and his knees will thank him in the future. He's a thug that was lucky, and talented enough to make it big, but you can't take away that "thug" mentality. |
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Since the NFL doesn't buy them out of high school he has a college degree to fall back on right?
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It turns out the NFL has a COC too.
They didn't strip his ability to make a living. He willfully violated a condition of employment. |
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Of course he deserves a right to make a living. He's free to do that elsewhere.
The NFL is a business. It has a right to employ whoever the fuck it wants to. Ridgerunner posted this yesterday, and I like it a lot. "Jobs belong to the employer, not the employee." |
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That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"On July 16, 2012, Rice agreed to a 5-year, $35 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens" I think he's doing OK. That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. . Why do you Care? He can still get a job like anyone else. I will never understand the Sport Hero Worship mentality. It's the farthest thing from common sense that I can think of. |
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I don't get the frenzy over this. How the fuck does everyone think she got knocked out in the first place, butterfly kisses??? When I saw him drag her out of the elevator SIX MONTHS AGO, I knew he hit her There was no mystery. HE ADMITTED IT AND WAS PUNISHED. He admitted he was an asshole and needed help. To me, it seemed genuine. Has he done it since? I haven't heard anything. This subsequent bullshit is mob hysteria generated by Fuckbook and Twits and smacks of double jeopardy. Ahhh, fuck this shit. People are idiots. View Quote He will get a come back, a book deal, and a TV mini series out of it. You'll see where his mom was abused and he joined a gang because no father..., it will be awesome. |
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The money isn't the issue and should not be considered in the mix. The question is…… should he be stripped of his ability to make a living in his chosen profession? Again, considering that their are men from all walks of life and in all professions that did not lose their jobs over the same type situation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"On July 16, 2012, Rice agreed to a 5-year, $35 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens" I think he's doing OK. That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. No, I'm falling into the "screw the abusive scumbag" crowd. Regarding "the bulk of that contract", even if he only gets paid two years' worth, that's $14M. Why would he have to worry about making a living with $14M in the bank? The money isn't the issue and should not be considered in the mix. The question is…… should he be stripped of his ability to make a living in his chosen profession? Again, considering that their are men from all walks of life and in all professions that did not lose their jobs over the same type situation. In his chosen profession? Riddle me this: What exactly is "his chosen profession" I choose to be a Pro Baller right now. There, I chose it. Now, do I get to collect the paycheck, just because I chose it? |
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be stripped of his ability to make a living?? I have worked with several guys that have done far worse than punch their wife or GF. Their ability to earn a living was not taken from them. NO, I DO NOT support what he did….. it's not OK. I think he should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and been jailed but he wasn't. So, considering that there are doctors, lawyers, plumbers, congressmen, etc. that have committed the same crime and their ability to earn a living was not taken from them, is it fair that Ray Rice has been stripped of his ability to earn a living at his chosen profession? Is it a matter of "punishing the rich"? Every talking head has been spouting " the rich NFL" and " the most successful league in history". What's that got to do with it? If the government saw fit not to punish him in any meaningful way, should political correctness be used against him? View Quote |
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He's an animal that has no business as a role model for our kids!!!! What kind of man punches a woman in the head like that, especially under those circumstances? Why shouldn't he pay a price for his actions?
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He will get a come back, a book deal, and a TV mini series out of it. You'll see where his mom was abused and he joined a gang because no father..., it will be awesome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't get the frenzy over this. How the fuck does everyone think she got knocked out in the first place, butterfly kisses??? When I saw him drag her out of the elevator SIX MONTHS AGO, I knew he hit her There was no mystery. HE ADMITTED IT AND WAS PUNISHED. He admitted he was an asshole and needed help. To me, it seemed genuine. Has he done it since? I haven't heard anything. This subsequent bullshit is mob hysteria generated by Fuckbook and Twits and smacks of double jeopardy. Ahhh, fuck this shit. People are idiots. He will get a come back, a book deal, and a TV mini series out of it. You'll see where his mom was abused and he joined a gang because no father..., it will be awesome. No kidding. Rice will be playing somewhere next year |
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Wonder what is in those little tiny letters in that contract...
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Quoted: Of course he deserves a right to make a living. He's free to do that elsewhere. The NFL is a business. It has a right to employ whoever the fuck it wants to. Ridgerunner posted this yesterday, and I like it a lot. "Jobs belong to the employer, not the employee." View Quote |
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R rice can go get a job working for the city.
he can still go make a living |
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I'm sure there are morality clauses attached to his contract. He will be fine, and his knees will thank him in the future. He's a thug that was lucky, and talented enough to make it big, but you can't take away that "thug" mentality. View Quote any remaining money her gets he will blow through in short order just like every other idiot athelete. expect to see him running a fry machine in 10 years |
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There are more ways to make a living than the NFL, he can try working at a car wash next.
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His wife says media ruined their lives
http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/09/ray-rice-video-wife-janay-instagram-statement/ |
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. Why do you Care? He can still get a job like anyone else. I will never understand the Sport Hero Worship mentality. It's the farthest thing from common sense that I can think of. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"On July 16, 2012, Rice agreed to a 5-year, $35 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens" I think he's doing OK. That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. . Why do you Care? He can still get a job like anyone else. I will never understand the Sport Hero Worship mentality. It's the farthest thing from common sense that I can think of. I only care from one standpoint….. should mass hysteria and political correctness cause a man to lose his job?? No Sport Hero Worship mentality here…… I said he should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. How is that Sport Hero Worship mentality?? He should go to jail for what he did. BUT the government did not prosecute him as they should have. |
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I thought his behavior was normal for people living in Baltimore?
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any remaining money her gets he will blow through in short order just like every other idiot athelete. expect to see him running a fry machine in 10 years View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm sure there are morality clauses attached to his contract. He will be fine, and his knees will thank him in the future. He's a thug that was lucky, and talented enough to make it big, but you can't take away that "thug" mentality. any remaining money her gets he will blow through in short order just like every other idiot athelete. expect to see him running a fry machine in 10 years Ex players most common form of income once they blow all of their money is to sue the nfl. |
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If the video hadn't surfaced he would be playing next weekend. The NFL knows the backlash outweighs any one player.
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He hasn't been stripped of his ability to make a living. There's always the CFL - just ask Flutie.
Lie to your employer, lose your job. Pretty simple. |
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She married him the next day, right? I wonder what the wedding photos look like, because what he did looked more like a shove than a punch, followed up by the assist by the railing on the elevator. Ray Lewis killed a man, and Michael Vick is a convicted felon. Rice has not been convicted of any crimes, and the "victim" not only refused to press charges, but married him the next day.
Rice's season is probably fucked for this year, but he shouldn't be banned, not when worse guys are forgiven, and then idolized. |
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That is one dysfunctional couple. She spitting on him, he hitting her, she "getting in his face" charging him; they're no strangers to violence. I seriously doubt it was the first time it happened.
To say that couple needs help is an understatement. He is not being deprived of his livelihood. He is free to secure a career in a different field. He allegedly has a college education. He needs to take advantage of it. |
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In his chosen profession? Riddle me this: What exactly is "his chosen profession" I choose to be a Pro Baller right now. There, I chose it. Now, do I get to collect the paycheck, just because I chose it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"On July 16, 2012, Rice agreed to a 5-year, $35 million deal with the Baltimore Ravens" I think he's doing OK. That's not the point and he won't receive the bulk of that contract. You are falling into the "screw the rich bastard" crowd. No, I'm falling into the "screw the abusive scumbag" crowd. Regarding "the bulk of that contract", even if he only gets paid two years' worth, that's $14M. Why would he have to worry about making a living with $14M in the bank? The money isn't the issue and should not be considered in the mix. The question is…… should he be stripped of his ability to make a living in his chosen profession? Again, considering that their are men from all walks of life and in all professions that did not lose their jobs over the same type situation. In his chosen profession? Riddle me this: What exactly is "his chosen profession" I choose to be a Pro Baller right now. There, I chose it. Now, do I get to collect the paycheck, just because I chose it? You obviously don't have the talent to be a "pro Baller" or you would be. That's the difference between you and Rice. You might want to be a Doctor too but you don't seem to have the smarts for that either. |
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Of course he is allowed to make a living!
Just not one that keeps him in the spotlight and admiration of children and young adults who would learn that its ok to beat the shit out of your SO as long as lots of people like you enough for the other stuff you do. |
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He signed the contract that has some sort of character clause. If punching your wife doesn't violate that then I don't know what to say. I will assert that many NFL peeps are in on a coverup and like in the Penn St. Story, need to get fired. Any news guys that knew of the punching video and didn't report it, they need to be fired too. However, I'm thinking the video inside the elevator only proves she didn't faint, pretty much everyone knew she got hit, so it's only shocking to those with no imagination or life experience.
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