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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:07:44 PM EDT
[#1]
1. OP's premise is complete bullshit.
2. OP's "civilian" alphabet must be some kind of joke. 3. OP's military alphabet is actually the ICAO alphabet used by pilots, radio operators, etc. (As mentioned by many previously.) 4. Everyone should use the standardized ICAO alphabet instead of random words to communicate letters when understand is important over the phone or radio. I tought it to my mother. She has found it useful. 5. OP;  Failed To Load Title 6. Page 6 ownage. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:15:40 PM EDT
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I do it all the time. Being clear isn't ever wrong, disrespectful, or inconsiderate
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:20:01 PM EDT
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I use the military phonetic alphabet on a daily basis... sometimes for my last name because letters sound similar, but mostly because I spit VINs for a living... I'm not repeating 17 characters more than once.. ain't got time for that
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:23:02 PM EDT
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If I hear someone using the military phonetic alphabet, I demand to see their DD214. If they fail to produce one I place them under citizen's arrest for stolen valor.
Keep up the good fight OP. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:24:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Everyone should use the military phonetic alphabet.
The other one with apple, or adam, or whatever other gay shit people make up sounds stupid as fuck. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:24:36 PM EDT
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If I hear someone using the military phonetic alphabet, I demand to see their DD214. If they fail to produce one I place them under citizen's arrest for stolen valor. Keep up the good fight OP. I do the same for people who went to trade school and call themselves engineers without having passed the P.E. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:24:51 PM EDT
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Lima Oscar Lima.
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:25:11 PM EDT
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M as in Mancy...
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:26:43 PM EDT
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The military phonetic alphabet is the only one that should EVER be used.
It is specifically created to be clear without ambiguous interpretations even under noisy conditions. All civilian versions of the phonetic alphabet are retarded to one degree or another. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:29:55 PM EDT
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All your military are belong to us. 
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:34:35 PM EDT
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I actually get irritated when they don’t.
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:And who besides the police use the "civilian" alphabet? Firefighter's of my acquaintance use the ICAO alphabet. My son's Boy Scout troop used it as well. I guess only cops still use the WW II alphabet. Speaks volumes. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:36:39 PM EDT
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Stolen voweler. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:37:11 PM EDT
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I have often used the military phonetic alphabet on the phone at work, and I'm as civilian as it gets. I have shit hearing and it seems many of the people I deal with do as well. The phonetic alphabet certainly sounds more professional than "C as in cat, U and in Ubiquitous" etc.
At my last job I actually had a small printout of the NATO phonetic alphabet taped by my work computer so I didn't forget some of the more rarely used letters. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:40:48 PM EDT
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You should humiliate him in a youtube video.
Can't have these verbal imposters dishonoring the armed branches. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:46:43 PM EDT
[#16]
FAA uses same phonetic alphabet.
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:47:01 PM EDT
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I am glad your life is so good that you have time to worry about this. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:47:47 PM EDT
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Does he grunt, "HU-ah!" when he's signing off?
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:50:16 PM EDT
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You do realize that the phonetic alphabet isn't only a military thing, right? |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:53:05 PM EDT
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1. OP's premise is complete bullshit. 2. OP's "civilian" alphabet must be some kind of joke. 3. OP's military alphabet is actually the ICAO alphabet used by pilots, radio operators, etc. (As mentioned by many previously.) 4. Everyone should use the standardized ICAO alphabet instead of random words to communicate letters when understand is important over the phone or radio. I tought it to my mother. She has found it useful. 5. OP;  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JohGniYph-c
6. Page 6 ownage. It’s pretty funny on a military deployment to hear civilian cops using the civilian alphabet, and then most of us take a little while to stop using the military version after we return to our civilian PD jobs. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:56:45 PM EDT
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Nato standard, aviation, boating, law enforcement, fucking useless indian tech support even uses it. It's pretty much the world standard when communicating in English. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:57:59 PM EDT
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Foxtrot Papa November India.
It is always used officially in ham radio, although there is a 'DX' alphabet based around geographic locations. America, Boston, Canada through Zanzibar As a kid I learned the WW2 alphabet and I occasionally slip into that for certain festive occasions like working WW2 memorial ships or trying to locate Japanese holdouts. ITUDXDX Alternative AAlphaAmericaAmsterdam BBravoBostonBaltimore CCharlieCanadaChile DDeltaDenmark EEchoEnglandEgypt FFoxtrotFranceFinland GGolfGermanyGeneva HHotelHonoluluHawaii IIndiaItalyItaly JJulietJapanJapan KKiloKilowattKentucky LLimaLondonLuxembourg MMikeMexicoMontreal NNovemberNorwayNicaragua OOscarOntarioOcean PPapaPacificPortugal QQuebecQuebecQueen RRomeoRadioRomania SSierraSantiagoSweden TTangoTokyoTexas UUniformUnitedUruguay VVictorVictoriaVenezuela WWhiskeyWashington XX-RayX-Ray YYankeeYokohama ZZuluZanzibarZulu |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 5:59:19 PM EDT
[#23]
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Lima Oscar Lima. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:01:52 PM EDT
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OP,
Maybe co-worker is trying to steal civilian valor since your so-called military alphabet has been the standard civilian radio operators and civilian aviation alphabet decades before it was adopted by the military and is still used by them today. Just because the military uses something doesn’t mean the military owns it. Police are the only radio operators I know of who use that retarded “list of my friends” alphabet. ICAO was created by and first used by civilians. The military is borrowing it from us. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:03:27 PM EDT
[#25]
Yellow Edward Sam
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:04:26 PM EDT
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Everyone should use the military phonetic alphabet. The other one with apple, or adam, or whatever other gay shit people make up sounds stupid as fuck. be closing |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:07:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Non mil guy checking in. Same alphabet is used in civilian aviation, which I grew up around. I’ll rattle off my alpha bravo charlies and not think twice beyond getting my American Airlines confirmation of whatever communicated. When a grown ass man says B, as in boy, shit done got weird. 'No, I'm almost 40 years old. B as in fuckin' Bravo'. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:08:13 PM EDT
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The military phonetic alphabet is the only one that should EVER be used. It is specifically created to be clear without ambiguous interpretations even under noisy conditions. All civilian versions of the phonetic alphabet are retarded to one degree or another. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:10:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to fly and I used the ICAO alphabet which NATO adopted because the aviation community had done extensive research on what worked and what didn't. Firefighter's of my acquaintance use the ICAO alphabet. My son's Boy Scout troop used it as well. I guess only cops still use the WW II alphabet. Speaks volumes. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:10:02 PM EDT
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You know how stupid a civ coming over the radio on a government installation sounds.
I need to verify apple Debbie Glock saxaphone tomahawk dragon Literally it's like a psychiatrist please just say the first thing that comes to mind..... So yes I'm a civ and use military phoenetics. Never served, spent my first 16 years on base with mil folks, and the last 5 with the again as a contractor. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:10:04 PM EDT
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How about when some guy who was in the army 30 years ago continues to say things like "sixteen hundred hours" instead of just saying 4 o'clock.
I get it. Somewhere, sometime in the past, some dumbass missed his directions by an entire 12 hours due to being an idiot. In the real world, when you work in an office from 8 to 5, there should never be any confusion of which 4 o'clock we are talking about. If EVER we are scheduling something at 4am, it will be well known. If ever I say "we'll meet in the board room at 4" and somebody shows up at 4am, they are retarded. Notice how I referred to working in an office from 8 to 5, but did not specify am or pm? If you got confused, you are retarded. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:11:53 PM EDT
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How about when some guy who was in the army 30 years ago continues to say things like "sixteen hundred hours" instead of just saying 4 o'clock. I get it. Somewhere, sometime in the past, some dumbass missed his directions by an entire 12 hours due to being an idiot. In the real world, when you work in an office from 8 to 5, there should never be any confusion of which 4 o'clock we are talking about. If EVER we are scheduling something at 4am, it will be well known. If ever I say "we'll meet in the board room at 4" and somebody shows up at 4am, they are retarded. Notice how I referred to working in an office from 8 to 5, but did not specify am or pm? If you got confused, you are retarded. She's there at 0500 and he's there at 1700. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:18:39 PM EDT
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Even the NATO phonetic alphabet? I am not talking about the civilian phonetic alphabet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize that the phonetic alphabet isn't only a military thing, right? |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:26:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:42:39 PM EDT
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We use them at work, it’s kind of necessary.
A lot of people use alternative ones though, apple, dog, etc. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:50:38 PM EDT
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I am glad your life is so good that you have time to worry about this.  Congrats OP you are blessed.
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Posted: 6/1/2019 6:54:22 PM EDT
[#37]
I hate when I forget the right phonetic words.
Uhhhh. MELVIN ANCHOR NARNIA NINER THREEVE OPOSSSM DUNESBERRY SEVEN.
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:04:50 PM EDT
[#38]
When I went certed Colorado POST in '95 they were teaching a variant of what you're calling civilian, only with Young instead of Yellow. When I left in '06 there were some agencies talking about moving to the ICAO/Mil version to meet FEMA's standards for IC. I don't know whether CSP switched over or not. If they did they probably took the rest of the state with them. Unless they've changed it to S is for Stoner by now.
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:13:51 PM EDT
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I have a guy in the office, not really a stolen valor guy but he definitely wears camo outside of the office. He is sorta autistic when it comes to military and history stuff. So I kinda just think he is a militaria buff and dont think much of it. However when on the phone with customers and going over catalog numbers and sales numbers, its all military phonetic alphabet. There are times where I swear he is calling in air support or an artillery attack. No one else in the office has issues speaking with customers and none of us need to rattle off sierra, foxtrot zulu all day, not sure why he does. I feel like this is confusing to customers, especially those that have no idea whiskey tango foxtrot he is talking about. ETA....going to add the civilian vs military phonetic alphabet https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/58463/27e0f11f3f6aeb9ba4897ea3a5e80f4f-965328.png |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:18:20 PM EDT
[#40]
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I hate when I forget the right phonetic words. Uhhhh. MELVIN ANCHOR NARNIA NINER THREEVE OPOSSSM DUNESBERRY SEVEN. |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:25:31 PM EDT
[#41]
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Foxtrot Papa November India. It is always used officially in ham radio, although there is a 'DX' alphabet based around geographic locations. America, Boston, Canada through Zanzibar As a kid I learned the WW2 alphabet and I occasionally slip into that for certain festive occasions like working WW2 memorial ships or trying to locate Japanese holdouts. ITUDXDX Alternative AAlphaAmericaAmsterdam BBravoBostonBaltimore CCharlieCanadaChile DDeltaDenmark EEchoEnglandEgypt FFoxtrotFranceFinland GGolfGermanyGeneva HHotelHonoluluHawaii IIndiaItalyItaly JJulietJapanJapan KKiloKilowattKentucky LLimaLondonLuxembourg MMikeMexicoMontreal NNovemberNorwayNicaragua OOscarOntarioOcean PPapaPacificPortugal QQuebecQuebecQueen RRomeoRadioRomania SSierraSantiagoSweden TTangoTokyoTexas UUniformUnitedUruguay VVictorVictoriaVenezuela WWhiskeyWashington XX-RayX-Ray YYankeeYokohama ZZuluZanzibarZulu |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:28:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Whiskey
Hotel Oscar Golf India Victor Echo Sierra Alpha Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:30:37 PM EDT
[#43]
This is well on the way to becoming an epic thread.
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:32:53 PM EDT
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Lima Oscar Lima |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:35:43 PM EDT
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This is well on the way to becoming an epic thread. 
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:36:33 PM EDT
[#46]
OP must not be around aviation much...
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:37:04 PM EDT
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OP must not be around aviation much... |
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:37:24 PM EDT
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If you are in a situation it makes sense to use the phonetic alphabet fuckin use it.
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:38:33 PM EDT
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Its like complaining that people who aren't firefighters have a water hose, or people who aren't in the DMV have inch long fake fingernails
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Posted: 6/1/2019 7:39:35 PM EDT
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Able
Baker Charlie Is military. Alpha Bravo Charlie Is the phonetic alphabet for international transportation that the military has adopted as well. |
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