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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:12:02 PM EDT
[#1]
I’m in for a PSA Luger
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:13:53 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes.
Also, classic submachineguns. I want my semi Sig MKPO damnit. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:14:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Broomhandle Mauser please.
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:14:36 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m in for a PSA Luger So, you don't want it? |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:15:20 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted: I would guess it would be complex and expensive to manufacture, That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. I do remember seeing a mock-up (or CGI?) of a "modern" Luger, which looked pretty badass. Someone will probably post it. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:15:46 PM EDT
[#6]
Absolutely.
As long as it’s aesthetically the same I don’t even care if parts a interchangeable or not. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:16:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Bring it back only if you don't care about losing money on every copy. It's irrelevant today to all but collectors and collectors will mostly want the real thing for the price you would have to charge for a new one..
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:18:40 PM EDT
[#8]
sure, they should come back so people can see how much they suck and why they're no longer made
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:21:10 PM EDT
[#9]
You should do it OP.
Just like the locals in my area that are always asking "why don't we have an organic eatery?" or "Why don't we have a (fill in the blank)?" Best answer is, if you feel there is a profitable market for it, seek out the investors and make it happen. Best of luck in your new endeavor. 
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:22:26 PM EDT
[#10]
As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols.
3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:22:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Bet it cant be done for under $1k.
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:23:39 PM EDT
[#12]
If you want one to shoot get a 70s interarms one or get a mixmaster shooter.
I have shot my 1938 Mauser and it shot well and was accurate. Lugerman in Pa has recreated the .45 luger but they are insanely expensive and unless he has one sitting on the shelf you will be waiting a loooong time for him to complete another batch. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:24:27 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. Do a P38/P1 clone then. 
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:25:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Lugers were thought to be too expensive to produce @$38. back in the 30's.
That's from my poor memory of a Forgotten Weapons episode. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:27:28 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. Modern CNC machines completely remove the need for expensive hand fitting. It’s not that a Luger can’t be made profitably, it’s that the machine could be making other products that are more profitable. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:29:25 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. I do remember seeing a mock-up (or CGI?) of a "modern" Luger, which looked pretty badass. Someone will probably post it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would guess it would be complex and expensive to manufacture, That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. I do remember seeing a mock-up (or CGI?) of a "modern" Luger, which looked pretty badass. Someone will probably post it. There is no way to make a cheap Luger. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:30:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: With SA bringing back the hi-power, would there be a market for the Luger in a similar guise, or is it obsolete and irrelevant? I would guess it would be complex and expensive to manufacture, but the SA P35 costs less than I expected. What do you guys think? I have never fired one, but always liked the looks. I don't even know anyone who owns one. Europeans don't know shit about handguns, and the the Luger Po8 was an officers dress sidearm for show, mostly. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:32:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do a P38/P1 clone then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. Do a P38/P1 clone then. But why? P-1s are available for between $500-$600, usually less out in the wild.. Common code/year shooter Nazi P-38s...Under 1K. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:33:04 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Modern CNC machines completely remove the need for expensive hand fitting. It’s not that a Luger can’t be made profitably, it’s that the machine could be making other products that are more profitable. 
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:34:18 PM EDT
[#20]
I never liked the way they handle/shoot. Neat looking, sure. I lost all desire to ever own one once I shot one. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:38:26 PM EDT
[#21]
Stoeger made a stainless one in the 90's. It didn't last.
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:38:34 PM EDT
[#22]
I've never been one for firearms that I don't have a real use for (my 300blk "pistol" being the one exception)... but I want a Luger.
A solid matching one with an original leather holster... a shooter, not a wall hanger, though. Now to decide if I want to spend the 3-4k for such a beast. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:39:26 PM EDT
[#23]
no offense to DK.
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:39:26 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m in for a PSA Luger It's coming out right after the mp5. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:41:26 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Europeans don't know shit about handguns ... lol It's okay to not know what you are talking about. You don't have to post and let everyone know. 
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:41:49 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. ... |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:41:56 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: no offense to DK. I have never designed a handgun, so I am not offended! 
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:42:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do a P38/P1 clone then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. Do a P38/P1 clone then. I mean you could do that affordably, there’s just not a market for it. P1s and even Wehrmacht P38s are still relatively affordable and they don’t have the mystique of something like a Luger or Broomhandle. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:42:21 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bet it cant be done for under $1k. Make that $2K for a base model. Way too many machining operations. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:43:37 PM EDT
[#30]
I'm in a few groups with Hakan Spuhr and have seen some of his work. Lugers are things that take a lot of love and attention to detail but they definitely can be made with modern materials and machines.
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:45:11 PM EDT
[#31]
If you simply must needs have one, and have the coin, I'm sure you can have someplace with the requisite CNC 3d printing and machining capability run you off one. More likely than awaiting a production run. You will soon discover how much it sucks as a usable handgun design, but it's your money.
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:46:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Figure out how to convert a Ruger MKIV, would have to be blowback, probably not possible, but something I have rolled around in my head.
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:47:37 PM EDT
[#33]
Polymer with a light rail and RMR mount and I'm in!
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:49:14 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m in for a PSA Luger PSA would tell you that they are making a Luger then leave you hanging for an eternity. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:49:18 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Polymer with a light rail and RMR mount and I'm in! I don't think that's even possible, unless you were going to mount the RMR in front of the action. 
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:50:15 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bet it cant be done for under $1k. Slave labor is getting too expensive these days.. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:50:21 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lugers were thought to be too expensive to produce @$38. back in the 30's. That's from my poor memory of a Forgotten Weapons episode. This. And that was with the advantage of huge factories tooled up for volume production and relatively cheap labor. A modern repro would cost more than originals in excellent condition and few people would actually buy one. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:53:02 PM EDT
[#38]
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:54:04 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think that's even possible, unless you were going to mount the RMR in front of the action. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Polymer with a light rail and RMR mount and I'm in! I don't think that's even possible, unless you were going to mount the RMR in front of the action. Scout Luger?    |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:54:15 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think that's even possible, unless you were going to mount the RMR in front of the action. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Polymer with a light rail and RMR mount and I'm in! I don't think that's even possible, unless you were going to mount the RMR in front of the action. Drill and tap the barrel? Sweet. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:54:16 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. I do remember seeing a mock-up (or CGI?) of a "modern" Luger, which looked pretty badass. Someone will probably post it.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:54:42 PM EDT
[#42]
Mitchell's made them about 30 years ago.
Not too popular and also collectable now. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:55:44 PM EDT
[#43]
Family bring back from World War One
tiny sights goofy steampunk operation means you really know when it’s empty feeds and shoots XTP JHP handloads like butter (Dillon XL650/powder check system)  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:56:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m in for a PSA Luger Probably |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:57:18 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean you could do that affordably, there’s just not a market for it. P1s and even Wehrmacht P38s are still relatively affordable and they don’t have the mystique of something like a Luger or Broomhandle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. Do a P38/P1 clone then. I mean you could do that affordably, there’s just not a market for it. P1s and even Wehrmacht P38s are still relatively affordable and they don’t have the mystique of something like a Luger or Broomhandle. Come to think of it about the only scene in a movie I saw a P-38 in use was by Kruger in Cross of Iron....I'm sure there are others but it's the only one that comes to mind. About 4:20:  Cross of Iron - Russian Infantry Attack |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:58:26 PM EDT
[#46]
NO........
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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:59:35 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol It's okay to not know what you are talking about. You don't have to post and let everyone know. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Europeans don't know shit about handguns ... lol It's okay to not know what you are talking about. You don't have to post and let everyone know. I didn't mean to imply that there haven't been some nifty handguns designed and produced in Europe, but the PO8 Luger wasn't one. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 1:01:21 PM EDT
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FA Kalashniluger
 Attached File Kalaschnikow Luger - Full Auto Test No. 1 www.waffen-werle.de  Luger M4 Carbine - Full Auto Test with 50 rounds |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 1:02:23 PM EDT
[#49]
"Should someone bring back the Luger....? "
Yes. Right after they bring back the crossbow. lol....nothing wrong with collecting old guns. I've got a P-38 myself. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 1:02:40 PM EDT
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I carried a P.08 for a while - really, the low capacity was the only practical disadvantage.
The original wood grips are fragile, though. |
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