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This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? Providing a quote talking about "free market principles" directly contradicts the "government is going to pay for it" Please watch this again..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inQmf96SYQ Not interested in watching old videos. You didn't answer my question so I'll ask it again; Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. and you ignoring his actual plan. yeah, the republican party is going to do something you can read, can't you? |
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Quoted: Depends on whether the GOPe member of the Congress and Senate want to actually repeal it or if they just want to control the reins of power and keep skimming off the government influence. View Quote It wasn't that long ago. |
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Quoted: and you ignoring his actual plan. yeah, the republican party is going to do something you can read, can't you? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Providing a quote talking about "free market principles" directly contradicts the "government is going to pay for it" Please watch this again..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inQmf96SYQ Not interested in watching old videos. You didn't answer my question so I'll ask it again; Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. and you ignoring his actual plan. yeah, the republican party is going to do something you can read, can't you? Are you ignoring what Trump himself said about repealing Obamacare? You can hear, cant you? |
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Quoted: and yet, you live in california. principled conservatives all up in this bitch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: congress could have defunded it and defacto eliminated it temporarily. but ryan decided to fund it. the republicans will blame a democratic filibuster and never forward a bill if a republican is president. You want to blame trump for what the republicans have consistently failed to do when they could. fucking deranged. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: He won't. Because he can't. Congress has to do it. And since so many conservatives won't turn out for the general if he gets nominated we'll probably lose enough seats in Congress that they won't have the votes to repeal it. Yet ANOTHER reason why the orange Jesus will be horrible for this country. congress could have defunded it and defacto eliminated it temporarily. but ryan decided to fund it. the republicans will blame a democratic filibuster and never forward a bill if a republican is president. You want to blame trump for what the republicans have consistently failed to do when they could. fucking deranged. I mean, SOMETHING... |
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Quoted: Tell me the candidate who is running on a position of repealing medicaid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Trump has supported universal healthcare for ages Tell me the candidate who is running on a position of repealing medicaid. Trump supports an individual mandate. That is not synonymous with medicaid |
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Quoted: Republicans should have at least tried to filibuster it amirite? I mean, SOMETHING... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He won't. Because he can't. Congress has to do it. And since so many conservatives won't turn out for the general if he gets nominated we'll probably lose enough seats in Congress that they won't have the votes to repeal it. Yet ANOTHER reason why the orange Jesus will be horrible for this country. congress could have defunded it and defacto eliminated it temporarily. but ryan decided to fund it. the republicans will blame a democratic filibuster and never forward a bill if a republican is president. You want to blame trump for what the republicans have consistently failed to do when they could. fucking deranged. I mean, SOMETHING... One Republican did. and the Trump supporters have been bashing him since Trump entered the race |
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Quoted: Tell me the candidate who is running on a position of repealing medicaid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: One Republican did. and the Trump supporters have been bashing him since Trump entered the race View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: He won't. Because he can't. Congress has to do it. And since so many conservatives won't turn out for the general if he gets nominated we'll probably lose enough seats in Congress that they won't have the votes to repeal it. Yet ANOTHER reason why the orange Jesus will be horrible for this country. congress could have defunded it and defacto eliminated it temporarily. but ryan decided to fund it. the republicans will blame a democratic filibuster and never forward a bill if a republican is president. You want to blame trump for what the republicans have consistently failed to do when they could. fucking deranged. I mean, SOMETHING... One Republican did. and the Trump supporters have been bashing him since Trump entered the race |
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Your question: "how long will it take for him to repeal Obamacare" Answer in the link: the president can't repeal laws. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So you cant answer the question? Your question: "how long will it take for him to repeal Obamacare" Answer in the link: the president can't repeal laws. But executive orders applies to federal workers.......federal workers that oversee Obamacare.........Obamacare workers who are instructed to cease and desist all further action and implement healthcare savings plans and not to impede insurance companies from selling across state lines. |
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For a guy who voted for Cruz you sure go after anyone who point out Diddlin Don's shortcomings View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He will never repeal Obamacare, he is a useless fucking liberal progressive. and yet, you live in california. principled conservatives all up in this bitch. Just highlighting hypocrisy where I see it. |
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Since he is looking like the nominee, I wonder if congress will have a repeal readyFor him to sign the day he takes office??? If he does that and shitcans all of zeros EO's I will be somewhat happy with him being the President View Quote |
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Trump has supported universal healthcare for ages Tell me the candidate who is running on a position of repealing medicaid. Trump supports an individual mandate. That is not synonymous with medicaid show me To the point, I watched that interview. His point, and its valid, is that if you mandate that insurance must be provided to people with pre-existing conditions, you have to have a mandate to purchase it for obvious reasons. You can't force insurers to take pre-existing conditions without a mandate, right? |
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Just highlighting hypocrisy where I see it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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]For a guy who voted for Cruz you sure go after anyone who point out Diddlin Don's shortcomings Just highlighting hypocrisy where I see it. You'd know all about political hypocrisy, wouldn't you? |
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This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? Providing a quote talking about "free market principles" directly contradicts the "government is going to pay for it" Please watch this again..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inQmf96SYQ Not interested in watching old videos. You didn't answer my question so I'll ask it again; Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. Your question was answered, click the link. I guess this can be taken as an admission that Cruz has absolutely no plan... |
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Medicaid isn't Obamacare, they are two different things View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Trump has supported universal healthcare for ages Tell me the candidate who is running on a position of repealing medicaid. oh. we are talking obamacare again. I thought the discussion was universal healthcare. are they now synonymous? obamacare had nothing to do with universal healthcare. which we already had with medicaid. It forced insurers to pay for transgender surgery. |
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Cruz did that goofy government shut down in an attempt to derail Obamacare
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Quoted: Your question was answered, click the link. I guess this can be taken as an admission that Cruz has absolutely no plan... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Providing a quote talking about "free market principles" directly contradicts the "government is going to pay for it" Please watch this again..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inQmf96SYQ Not interested in watching old videos. You didn't answer my question so I'll ask it again; Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. Your question was answered, click the link. I guess this can be taken as an admission that Cruz has absolutely no plan... Where did you answer the question in that Trump stating that he likes the individual mandate and the government providing healthcare directly contradicts the quote you provided regarding "free market solutions"? |
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Remember when they managed to get a repeal through the House and Senate and sent it to Obama's desk, and it was derided as useless and only symbolic? It wasn't that long ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Depends on whether the GOPe member of the Congress and Senate want to actually repeal it or if they just want to control the reins of power and keep skimming off the government influence. It wasn't that long ago. Remember when they fully funded it and everything else the Dem wanted...it was not that long ago. Now.let's see if they pass another repeal when there is someone there who might sign it. |
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Quoted: oh. we are talking obamacare again. I thought the discussion was universal healthcare. are they now synonymous? obamacare had nothing to do with universal healthcare. which we already had with medicaid. It forced insurers to pay for transgender surgery. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Trump has supported universal healthcare for ages Tell me the candidate who is running on a position of repealing medicaid. oh. we are talking obamacare again. I thought the discussion was universal healthcare. are they now synonymous? obamacare had nothing to do with universal healthcare. which we already had with medicaid. It forced insurers to pay for transgender surgery. |
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Quoted: Remember when they fully funded it and everything else the Dem wanted...it was not that long ago. Now.let's see if they pass another repeal when there is someone there who might sign it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Depends on whether the GOPe member of the Congress and Senate want to actually repeal it or if they just want to control the reins of power and keep skimming off the government influence. It wasn't that long ago. Remember when they fully funded it and everything else the Dem wanted...it was not that long ago. Now.let's see if they pass another repeal when there is someone there who might sign it. |
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Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? Providing a quote talking about "free market principles" directly contradicts the "government is going to pay for it" Please watch this again..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inQmf96SYQ Not interested in watching old videos. You didn't answer my question so I'll ask it again; Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. Your question was answered, click the link. I guess this can be taken as an admission that Cruz has absolutely no plan... cruz has a three point plan. Its almost identical to trumps. Cruz's was first. 1. Creation of a nationwide marketplace The first component of Cruz's plan involves the creation of a nationwide marketplace that consumers in all 50 states would use to shop for health insurance, instead of each state having their own exchange. The allure of Cruz's plan is pretty simple: competition. If consumers have access to more plans and they can compare those plans across state lines in a very transparent manner, we should see insurers competing with each other on premium cost in order to lure in customers. It would, in theory, remove some of the issues we see with exorbitantly high premiums in Alaska and Wyoming, two sparsely populated states. 2. Expansion of health savings accounts Second, Cruz wants to expand the use of health savings accounts, or HSAs, so people can pay for routine healthcare needs in a tax-advantaged way. 3. De-linking health insurance from the workplace Last, Cruz wants to remove the current ties most Americans have between their health insurance and their job. A majority of Americans sign up for health insurance in the workplace, meaning if they change jobs or are laid off, they'll lose their coverage. Ironically the break between cruz and trump is #3. Bernie sanders is with cruz on #3. Cruz hasn't explained the how he would do it, however. employer health care dates to FDR when he imposed maximum wages and companies used benefits to work around it. |
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Trump has supported universal healthcare for ages Tell me the candidate who is running on a position of repealing medicaid. oh. we are talking obamacare again. I thought the discussion was universal healthcare. are they now synonymous? obamacare had nothing to do with universal healthcare. which we already had with medicaid. It forced insurers to pay for transgender surgery. was there a point to that statement counselor? |
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You're using Cruz as a deflection on having to answer the question Where did you answer the question in that Trump stating that he likes the individual mandate and the government providing healthcare directly contradicts the quote you provided regarding "free market solutions"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Providing a quote talking about "free market principles" directly contradicts the "government is going to pay for it" Please watch this again..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inQmf96SYQ Not interested in watching old videos. You didn't answer my question so I'll ask it again; Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. Your question was answered, click the link. I guess this can be taken as an admission that Cruz has absolutely no plan... Where did you answer the question in that Trump stating that he likes the individual mandate and the government providing healthcare directly contradicts the quote you provided regarding "free market solutions"? No, you're just making things up. Trump's position & plan is at the link I provided you. I gave you a single quote from it because it seems that you are incapable of clicking the link. Your boy Cruz still apparently has no plan, otherwise you would have provided it. Maybe you should send him the link so he can copy it like he does with everything else. |
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Quoted: cruz has a three point plan. Its almost identical to trumps. Cruz's was first. 1. Creation of a nationwide marketplace The first component of Cruz's plan involves the creation of a nationwide marketplace that consumers in all 50 states would use to shop for health insurance, instead of each state having their own exchange. The allure of Cruz's plan is pretty simple: competition. If consumers have access to more plans and they can compare those plans across state lines in a very transparent manner, we should see insurers competing with each other on premium cost in order to lure in customers. It would, in theory, remove some of the issues we see with exorbitantly high premiums in Alaska and Wyoming, two sparsely populated states. 2. Expansion of health savings accounts Second, Cruz wants to expand the use of health savings accounts, or HSAs, so people can pay for routine healthcare needs in a tax-advantaged way. 3. De-linking health insurance from the workplace Last, Cruz wants to remove the current ties most Americans have between their health insurance and their job. A majority of Americans sign up for health insurance in the workplace, meaning if they change jobs or are laid off, they'll lose their coverage. Ironically the break between cruz and trump is #3. Bernie sanders is with cruz on #3. Cruz hasn't explained the how he would do it, however. employer health care dates to FDR when he imposed maximum wages and companies used benefits to work around it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Providing a quote talking about "free market principles" directly contradicts the "government is going to pay for it" Please watch this again..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inQmf96SYQ Not interested in watching old videos. You didn't answer my question so I'll ask it again; Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. Your question was answered, click the link. I guess this can be taken as an admission that Cruz has absolutely no plan... cruz has a three point plan. Its almost identical to trumps. Cruz's was first. 1. Creation of a nationwide marketplace The first component of Cruz's plan involves the creation of a nationwide marketplace that consumers in all 50 states would use to shop for health insurance, instead of each state having their own exchange. The allure of Cruz's plan is pretty simple: competition. If consumers have access to more plans and they can compare those plans across state lines in a very transparent manner, we should see insurers competing with each other on premium cost in order to lure in customers. It would, in theory, remove some of the issues we see with exorbitantly high premiums in Alaska and Wyoming, two sparsely populated states. 2. Expansion of health savings accounts Second, Cruz wants to expand the use of health savings accounts, or HSAs, so people can pay for routine healthcare needs in a tax-advantaged way. 3. De-linking health insurance from the workplace Last, Cruz wants to remove the current ties most Americans have between their health insurance and their job. A majority of Americans sign up for health insurance in the workplace, meaning if they change jobs or are laid off, they'll lose their coverage. Ironically the break between cruz and trump is #3. Bernie sanders is with cruz on #3. Cruz hasn't explained the how he would do it, however. employer health care dates to FDR when he imposed maximum wages and companies used benefits to work around it. What's even more ironic is Cruz isnt telling the country how much he likes the individual healthcare mandate and that the government is going to pay for healthcare insurance for 25% of the population |
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Quoted: No, you're just making things up. Trump's position & plan is at the link I provided you. I gave you a single quote from it because it seems that you are incapable of clicking the link. Your boy Cruz still apparently has no plan, otherwise you would have provided it. Maybe you should send him the link so he can copy it like he does with everything else. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not interested in watching old videos. You didn't answer my question so I'll ask it again; Now, (besides quoting Trump when he says "repeal") where is Lyin' Ted's plan? This thread has nothing to do with Cruz. Just another dodge trying to defend what Trump actually says. Your question was answered, click the link. I guess this can be taken as an admission that Cruz has absolutely no plan... Where did you answer the question in that Trump stating that he likes the individual mandate and the government providing healthcare directly contradicts the quote you provided regarding "free market solutions"? No, you're just making things up. Trump's position & plan is at the link I provided you. I gave you a single quote from it because it seems that you are incapable of clicking the link. Your boy Cruz still apparently has no plan, otherwise you would have provided it. Maybe you should send him the link so he can copy it like he does with everything else. What is being made up? Its right in the videos that i provided that you refuse to watch. |
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cruz has a three point plan. Its almost identical to trumps. Cruz's was first. 1. Creation of a nationwide marketplace The first component of Cruz's plan involves the creation of a nationwide marketplace that consumers in all 50 states would use to shop for health insurance, instead of each state having their own exchange. The allure of Cruz's plan is pretty simple: competition. If consumers have access to more plans and they can compare those plans across state lines in a very transparent manner, we should see insurers competing with each other on premium cost in order to lure in customers. It would, in theory, remove some of the issues we see with exorbitantly high premiums in Alaska and Wyoming, two sparsely populated states. 2. Expansion of health savings accounts Second, Cruz wants to expand the use of health savings accounts, or HSAs, so people can pay for routine healthcare needs in a tax-advantaged way. 3. De-linking health insurance from the workplace Last, Cruz wants to remove the current ties most Americans have between their health insurance and their job. A majority of Americans sign up for health insurance in the workplace, meaning if they change jobs or are laid off, they'll lose their coverage. Ironically the break between cruz and trump is #3. Bernie sanders is with cruz on #3. Cruz hasn't explained the how he would do it, however. employer health care dates to FDR when he imposed maximum wages and companies used benefits to work around it. View Quote #3 is a non-issue that is only used to whip people into a frenzy - that's why Bernie cites it. I've switched jobs before - you sign up for the new plan when you get there & get rid of the old one. In case of a layoff, you have the option of continuing your existing plan, or going into COBRA; http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/faqs/faq-consumer-cobra.html |
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View Quote Uh oh: Carly Fiorina supported an individual mandate for health coverage in 2013She wasn’t endorsing the ObamaCare mandate, her campaign spokesperson tells CNN, she was endorsing a mandate that would force everyone to carry cheaper, high-deductible catastrophic coverage. The point of ObamaCare is to force healthy young adults to buy elaborate plans they don’t really need, thus creating a rich new revenue stream that can help insurers cover expensive treatments for the sick and elderly. I knew she was a "Trojan Horse"... |
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Quoted: Remember when they managed to get a repeal through the House and Senate and sent it to Obama's desk, and it was derided as useless and only symbolic? It wasn't that long ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Depends on whether the GOPe member of the Congress and Senate want to actually repeal it or if they just want to control the reins of power and keep skimming off the government influence. It wasn't that long ago. And it should be on Trumps desk day one if he is the man he says he is. |
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Quoted: Uh oh: Carly Fiorina supported an individual mandate for health coverage in 2013She wasn’t endorsing the ObamaCare mandate, her campaign spokesperson tells CNN, she was endorsing a mandate that would force everyone to carry cheaper, high-deductible catastrophic coverage. The point of ObamaCare is to force healthy young adults to buy elaborate plans they don’t really need, thus creating a rich new revenue stream that can help insurers cover expensive treatments for the sick and elderly. If you missed it yesterday at BuzzFeed, go watch Fiorina describe her "great admiration” for Hillary Clinton in 2008. I knew she was a "Trojan Horse"... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Uh oh: Carly Fiorina supported an individual mandate for health coverage in 2013She wasn’t endorsing the ObamaCare mandate, her campaign spokesperson tells CNN, she was endorsing a mandate that would force everyone to carry cheaper, high-deductible catastrophic coverage. The point of ObamaCare is to force healthy young adults to buy elaborate plans they don’t really need, thus creating a rich new revenue stream that can help insurers cover expensive treatments for the sick and elderly. If you missed it yesterday at BuzzFeed, go watch Fiorina describe her "great admiration” for Hillary Clinton in 2008. I knew she was a "Trojan Horse"... Why do you guys keep making this about Cruz (and Carly)? Even if they weren't in the race, this thread was started about Trump repealing Obamacare |
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Quoted: Actually Congress has to write and pass it before it can get onto Trump's desk. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Depends on whether the GOPe member of the Congress and Senate want to actually repeal it or if they just want to control the reins of power and keep skimming off the government influence. It wasn't that long ago. Actually Congress has to write and pass it before it can get onto Trump's desk. That could be his first step into unfucking Obamas America. |
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If by some miracle he won the general, I am willing to bet hard money that he won't even try to repeal Obamacare or do ANY of his campaign promises. But, I REALLY don't think we are going to have to worry about it.
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The ACA was designed to systematically and permanently destroy the existing beauracracy and infrastructure as well as established functional framework of the old Heath care system.
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