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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:43:09 PM EDT
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Like how many Ebola threads does this make? 87 Close in the last two weeks it's 108. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:43:23 PM EDT
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My balls itch. Should I be worried? I had an uncle who had itchy balls. He was dead a few days later. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:44:16 PM EDT
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At that point I would have asked to see his medical degree, license ... and started looking for a new doctor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So wife is in with doc seeing about an esophageal issue (btw healed) anyway consult is winding down so I ask..so doc...what's your take on Ebola? 1. CDC is lying...its airborne... ... At that point I would have asked to see his medical degree, license ... and started looking for a new doctor. There are plenty of idiot doctors out there. Simply having a medical degree and license doesn't mean as much as you might think. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:45:08 PM EDT
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I'm a Mayo Clinic physician and it is just about that bad. The only thing to do is to prevent it from getting here, which we still need to do to reduce the case burden. The CDC is lying about the risk and transmission. Ebola is in droplets when you cough or sneeze which can travel feet to yards, so it is "airborne". The US has nowhere near the Level 4 biohazard gear to care for two hundred Ebola patients little lone 2000 or more. Finally, the safe thing to do is to avoid people, which if .gov says out loud will crash the economy. Daily Mail reporting today that the NHS (British Health Service ) is already telling potential Ebola patients to NOT go to ER or clinic but to "call" for help by phone nurse. They already see that if Ebola patients hit their health team, all their health workers will die or quit. Okay, I'll make you a deal. If it is airborne I'll buy you a membership. The catch to this is that you have to be vetted. The upside is that we can call a Mayo Clinic doctor a team member and our community will be enriched. Interested? 
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:46:50 PM EDT
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Okay, I'll make you a deal. If it is airborne I'll buy you a membership. Catch is, you have to be vetted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm a Mayo Clinic physician and it is just about that bad. The only thing to do is to prevent it from getting here, which we still need to do to reduce the case burden. The CDC is lying about the risk and transmission. Ebola is in droplets when you cough or sneeze which can travel feet to yards, so it is "airborne". The US has nowhere near the Level 4 biohazard gear to care for two hundred Ebola patients little lone 2000 or more. Finally, the safe thing to do is to avoid people, which if .gov says out loud will crash the economy. Daily Mail reporting today that the NHS (British Health Service ) is already telling potential Ebola patients to NOT go to ER or clinic but to "call" for help by phone nurse. They already see that if Ebola patients hit their health team, all their health workers will die or quit. Okay, I'll make you a deal. If it is airborne I'll buy you a membership. Catch is, you have to be vetted. Airborne or "airborne"? The quotes change the game. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:47:38 PM EDT
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It came to America on a plane; it's airborne.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:47:39 PM EDT
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Airborne or "airborne"? The quotes change the game. Airborne |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:49:16 PM EDT
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Ebola threads are spreading faster than ebola
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Posted: 10/8/2014 7:50:26 PM EDT
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Let's not forget it's the NRA's fault......and I slept in a Holiday Inn last night so ask me anything about Ebolololololol
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:15:06 PM EDT
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Close in the last two weeks it's 108. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like how many Ebola threads does this make? 87 Close in the last two weeks it's 108. 110 |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:18:06 PM EDT
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The only thing spreading faster than the Ebola......................is the Ebola threads.  Now THAT is brilliant. You sir, may have a drink. 
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:20:41 PM EDT
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I think even more worrisome is what will the Govt. do when and if it decides to act? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Half of me thinks this is no big deal But the other half of me thinks that we are in for some shit real soon The fact that the government isn't doing a damn thing has me worried That right there... I think even more worrisome is what will the Govt. do when and if it decides to act? I am with this ^ guy. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:24:41 PM EDT
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"Airborne" means that it can travel by droplets and I can tell you that the ER at St Mary's hospital in Rochester is handling potential Ebola patients by using "droplet" precautions.
Airborne means that it can pass room to room through the ventilation without droplets. Ebola Reston did this back in the 1990's between monkeys but not humans. Since Ebola is an RNA virus it can mutate each time it infects a host. The CDC SHOULD be hoping for the best and preparing for the worst, instead of its current "nothing could possible go wrong" stance. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:25:42 PM EDT
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So wife is in with doc seeing about an esophageal issue (btw healed) anyway consult is winding down so I ask..so doc...what's your take on Ebola? 1. CDC is lying...its airborne... 2. Research does not show an animal nexus... 3. Its here...and the .gov has no way to prevent its spread other than complete travel ban and quarantine until it dies out. 4. Lots of people are going to die here... 5. Avoid airlines, wash hands often, avoid crowds and ill people. 6. It cost $500,000 to treat patient zero, a pandemic will destroy our economy... If it were airborne the death toll would be a LOT steeper. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:27:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That right there... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Half of me thinks this is no big deal But the other half of me thinks that we are in for some shit real soon The fact that the government isn't doing a damn thing has me worried That right there... The government is doing all sorts of things. It has completely eliminated border security It has shipped tens of thousands of illegals all over the country. It has exposed hundreds of it's own workers to all these people. It is inviting more. It has sent more than a half dozen unprotected officers and medical people to Dallas ebola colony one. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:28:18 PM EDT
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Pretty shitty airborne disease, it (so far) hasn't even infected the people who shared an apartment with him.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:30:17 PM EDT
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"Airborne" means that it can travel by droplets and I can tell you that the ER at St Mary's hospital in Rochester is handling potential Ebola patients by using "droplet" precautions. Airborne means that it can pass room to room through the ventilation without droplets. Ebola Reston did this back in the 1990's between monkeys but not humans. Since Ebola is an RNA virus it can mutate each time it infects a host. The CDC SHOULD be hoping for the best and preparing for the worst, instead of its current "nothing could possible go wrong" stance. What are your recommendations at this point? What steps should be taken that currently are not? What should change in hospitals starting tomorrow? |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:30:33 PM EDT
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So still only one actual confirmed case of Ebola in the us, right? And that guy's dead now.
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:31:40 PM EDT
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In before the quarantine lock
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:32:04 PM EDT
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pics or ban
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:32:14 PM EDT
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ibtl
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:32:32 PM EDT
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While your wife's ENT has a higher capacity to evaluate such things than the average booger picker, I doubt he's any expert on Ebola or epidemiology. About the only thing in there that I will believe is the $500K figure to treat someone. In fact, that sounds conservative. I agree. I'd be shocked it it did cost more than that to treat an ebola patient in the U.S. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:33:13 PM EDT
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Is there a Mayo Clinic in VA?
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:33:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are your recommendations at this point? What steps should be taken that currently are not? What should change in hospitals starting tomorrow? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Airborne" means that it can travel by droplets and I can tell you that the ER at St Mary's hospital in Rochester is handling potential Ebola patients by using "droplet" precautions. Airborne means that it can pass room to room through the ventilation without droplets. Ebola Reston did this back in the 1990's between monkeys but not humans. Since Ebola is an RNA virus it can mutate each time it infects a host. The CDC SHOULD be hoping for the best and preparing for the worst, instead of its current "nothing could possible go wrong" stance. What are your recommendations at this point? What steps should be taken that currently are not? What should change in hospitals starting tomorrow? |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:35:44 PM EDT
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I have a hard time reconciling the claims that Ebola is as hard or harder to catch than HIV or Hep, yet US trained medical workers are contracting it?
They cant all be having unprotected sex and sharing needles with the patients. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:37:31 PM EDT
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When the death totals look like flu numbers, i'll being to worry. There's ~3.4k deaths so far in a land with shit health care & people believe it doesn't exist. This is an important thing to remember. Ebola is a very dangerous disease, no doubt about it. But still, in West Africa, the disease has only killed a few thousand people so far. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:37:51 PM EDT
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Ibtl
Ebola thread locks are all the rage |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:40:06 PM EDT
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IBTL
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:42:09 PM EDT
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Airborne or "airborne"? The quotes change the game. Airborne HAHAYYYHAYYY!! -Kilgore |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:42:14 PM EDT
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Isn't Obama sending the 101st to Liberia?
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:42:50 PM EDT
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The main things are closing the boarders to keep it out, because once its here the problem becomes almost unmanageable..
Ebola has no treatment: Zmap quantity is months to years away. Vaccines take years to develop and test and when available may be only 70-90% protective. To care for Ebola patients safely you need Level 4 Biohazard suits for Drs, nurses, janitors (haul away waste, linens), waste disposal staff (anything that Ebola patients touch is highly infectious and requires safe disposal). As you can imagine, there aren't any companies making these in bulk, they are for research labs that work with these pathogens. So, if suddenly there are 100 patients that need staff to care for them the gear needed for the staff won't be there unless CDC starts preparing NOW. Any room that is used medical equipment used, can never be used again as there would no way to clean it that you are I would ever want to be in there again or use it again. Thus Ebola patient, in large outbreak would need to be in facilities separate from the run of the mill patient. These facilities should be created now. Closed hospitals, former VA facilities could be revitalized for the effort. Current Ebola facilities are created to be cleaned and handle biohazard waste from these patients. You're local hospital has none of that. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:43:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a hard time reconciling the claims that Ebola is as hard or harder to catch than HIV or Hep, yet US trained medical workers are contracting it? They cant all be having unprotected sex and sharing needles with the patients. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:44:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It came to America on a plane; it's airborne.  |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:46:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The main things are closing the boarders to keep it out, because once its here the problem becomes almost unmanageable.. Ebola has no treatment: Zmap quantity is months to years away. Vaccines take years to develop and test and when available may be only 70-90% protective. To care for Ebola patients safely you need Level 4 Biohazard suits for Drs, nurses, janitors (haul away waste, linens), waste disposal staff (anything that Ebola patients touch is highly infectious and requires safe disposal). As you can imagine, there aren't any companies making these in bulk, they are for research labs that work with these pathogens. So, if suddenly there are 100 patients that need staff to care for them the gear needed for the staff won't be there unless CDC starts preparing NOW. Any room that is used medical equipment used, can never be used again as there would no way to clean it that you are I would ever want to be in there again or use it again. Thus Ebola patient, in large outbreak would need to be in facilities separate from the run of the mill patient. These facilities should be created now. Closed hospitals, former VA facilities could be revitalized for the effort. Current Ebola facilities are created to be cleaned, filter air and handle biohazard waste from these patients. You're local hospital has none of that. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:49:42 PM EDT
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This is an important thing to remember. Ebola is a very dangerous disease, no doubt about it. But still, in West Africa, the disease has only killed a few thousand people so far. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When the death totals look like flu numbers, i'll being to worry. There's ~3.4k deaths so far in a land with shit health care & people believe it doesn't exist. This is an important thing to remember. Ebola is a very dangerous disease, no doubt about it. But still, in West Africa, the disease has only killed a few thousand people so far. Few thousand, huh? No biggie. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:49:56 PM EDT
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Is there a Mayo Clinic in VA? Probably. I found a Mayo Clinic doc in the woods last year. This leads me to believe one of two things: 1) Camp FEMA has set up a secret hospital in the depths of George Washington National Forest, and for security reasons, it can only be accessed by foot 2) the guy was thru-hiking the AT The idea that this guy was simply a "thru-hiker" is so absurd it isn't even worthy of consideration. The Illuminati will have to get up early in the morning if they want to fool me. They are secretly plotting our doom. I just know it. Oh, and I didn't even get to the part about the dinosaur. Yeah that's right, a fucking dinosaur. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:52:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Half of me thinks this is no big deal But the other half of me thinks that we are in for some shit real soon The fact that the government isn't doing a damn thing has me worried They are doing something. They are doing the opposite of what they need to do to make it a non-issue. I didn't worry about ebola until this administration started yapping about it. Ebola has broken out in the past with no effects here or anywhere else in the western world. Ebola isn't the only thing that's been a problem recently. And it's all because of the hesitation in making the sensible decisions to prevent said problems. We shouldn't have open borders. We should be screening and quarantining people that come from areas known to have diseases. There was a time when our food was safe too, yet that has changed. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:54:14 PM EDT
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If it were airborne the death toll would be a LOT steeper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So wife is in with doc seeing about an esophageal issue (btw healed) anyway consult is winding down so I ask..so doc...what's your take on Ebola? 1. CDC is lying...its airborne... 2. Research does not show an animal nexus... 3. Its here...and the .gov has no way to prevent its spread other than complete travel ban and quarantine until it dies out. 4. Lots of people are going to die here... 5. Avoid airlines, wash hands often, avoid crowds and ill people. 6. It cost $500,000 to treat patient zero, a pandemic will destroy our economy... If it were airborne the death toll would be a LOT steeper. The virus can travel about 3 feet in droplets of a sneeze or cough so it is "airborne". |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:54:18 PM EDT
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I have met some quacky specialists. Some of those are very good within their own field. Just don't let them swerve out of their lane. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I read it on the internet...it must be true. I'm not saying you're full of shit but you're full of shit. I have met some quacky specialists. Some of those are very good within their own field. Just don't let them swerve out of their lane. truer words have never been written on the internet regarding Drs. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 8:56:24 PM EDT
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The only thing spreading faster than the Ebola......................is the Ebola threads. Ebola is the Ron Paul of diseases. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:00:50 PM EDT
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Like how many Ebola threads does this make? 87 Close in the last two weeks it's 108. 110 It's up to 116. At this rate the number of threads will exceed the number of victims by the end of the week. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:00:59 PM EDT
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They can't wear the full PPE all the time. Dr. Kent Brantly thinks he got infected by the patients he saw in the regular clinic who wasn't aware that he or she had Ebola. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a hard time reconciling the claims that Ebola is as hard or harder to catch than HIV or Hep, yet US trained medical workers are contracting it? They cant all be having unprotected sex and sharing needles with the patients. Casual contact such as a doctor examining a patient can transmit it? |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:03:42 PM EDT
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So still only one actual confirmed case of Ebola in the us, right? And that guy's dead now. If you listen to the jackasses on here, there's hundreds and it's multiplying rapidly. 
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:06:20 PM EDT
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In one of the 110 threads here I saw a document perportedly from USAMRIID that stated ebola has a much longer life span outside the body in colder climates. Essentially equating it to the flu in terms of its airborne ness...only in colder climates
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:07:47 PM EDT
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A guy I shoot with is an MD. We talked about ebola this past weekend, and he said the following:
(1) There are only about 4 hospitals in the US that can safely handle ebola patients. (2) Each of these hospitals is capable of treating only 4 patients at a time. (3) "The genie is already out of the bottle." (his exact words). (4) It's going to hit us, and it's going to hit us hard. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:07:56 PM EDT
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I think even more worrisome is what will the Govt. do when and if it decides to act? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Half of me thinks this is no big deal But the other half of me thinks that we are in for some shit real soon The fact that the government isn't doing a damn thing has me worried That right there... I think even more worrisome is what will the Govt. do when and if it decides to act? Only thing worse than the gov doing nothing is the gov doing something. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:08:36 PM EDT
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6. It cost $500,000 to treat patient zero, a pandemic will destroy our economy... Is your "doctor" over 80 years old? It cost well over $500,000 even before the 1st bed change was done. If you're going to lie, at least do a little research on health care costs. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:08:57 PM EDT
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The CDC is lying about the risk and transmission. Ebola is in droplets when you cough or sneeze which can travel feet to yards, so it is "airborne". Impossible! As far as diseases go, Ebola is nowhere near hooah enough to be Airborne. |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:28:43 PM EDT
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Like how many Ebola threads does this make? Exponential growth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They keep mutating! |
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Posted: 10/8/2014 9:53:36 PM EDT
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The Kraft Foods mayonnaise store in Virginia is not the Mayo Clinic. They should have told you that.
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