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Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:24:56 AM EDT
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You are free to get tattoos and I am free to judge you.

It's a sign of poor decision making. A permanent mark on your body that you think "looks cool".
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here is another carmel chewer who thinks they know what what another person thinks when they get a tattoo. "They think it looks cool".   well gosh dern, we are just torn up that you think that! .  first there werthers, you have no idea what another person thinks. so do yourself a favor and stop making yourself look ignorant and go ask gram gram for some more puddin
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:25:03 AM EDT
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you never met anyone with tattoos who isnt a felon or never met someone with face tattoos that wasnt one?
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I don't have a problem with tattoos per se. I think people who get them on their face and neck exhibit poor decision making skills, and I've never met one that wasn't a felon.



you never met anyone with tattoos who isnt a felon or never met someone with face tattoos that wasnt one?


Face and/or neck tattoos. Every one I've ever known was a felon. I know plenty of non-felons with tattoos.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:27:41 AM EDT
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I dont have any tattoos but my girlfriend does.

I want her to get more.

Nothing is more sexy than a girl with ink.

Suicide girls are my go to porn
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:29:02 AM EDT
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In this thread we see the hypocrisy of people with tattoos as they categorize those who categorize them.
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man we must have hit a nerve to get a low post 12'er to come out of the basement to comment.  and you chose this thread? lol and not sure how we are supposed to decipher your comment.  so us folks with tattoos, that get "categorized" first, should not do the same in return? please help me make sense of that..

wanna see an eye for an eye tattoo?
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:29:42 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:29:48 AM EDT
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I honestly don't give a fucken shit nor give two fits about it.


The only thing I am fucken annoyed with are those doing face tattoos and body piercings and then going to work thinking nobody gives a shit.

I don't care.. but that co worker next door does care.

I know of a teacher with facial demonic tattoos and he sued and won and then finally quit when he settled out of court with the school district.

Fuck that shit.

but do whatever you want with your body as long as it doesn't effect anyone else.

Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:32:20 AM EDT
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Boomers ruined the country and the planet.


Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:36:22 AM EDT
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What's with the phobia angle? I've never been scared of tattoos.

I just think the look like shit on women.  Women's skin is just perfect naturally. No inhancement is necessary.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:47:17 AM EDT
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muh rights!


Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:51:24 AM EDT
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What's with the phobia angle? I've never been scared of tattoos.

I just think the look like shit on women.  Women's skin is just perfect naturally. No inhancement is necessary.
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I get the feeling that some take it to phobia level, the example i linked in my post the other post i was talking about. that post was about some humor and a shirt a guy was wearing. yes the man had tattoos but that wasnt even apart of the humor or whatever. if you go look it was a play on racisim in sporting teams names, ie "redskins" etc... and everyone was getting a kick out of it yet that one member could have enjoyed the humor in the post and laughed like the rest of us, but he screamed "inkie! Z"... that is what im amazed about when it comes to folks who are offended or whatever there emotions are about tattoos reaches a level of phobia. he could have just moved along but it struck him so bad that he couldnt help himself.. and i am honestly curious as to what makes a person feel so outraged, or fearful or so damn judgemental towards someone who has the freedom to do what they want with there bodies.. see where im going? its an honest question that i have a hard time wrapping my head around that type of mindset.

these types of people who act this way have a pre determined mind set when they see someone with tattoos.. being prejudgmental is like having a phobia...

and i understand that folks will have there opinions, as i have on others also. but nothing to the point where im so struck by there hideous whatever that i feel like i have to say an infantile sounding word as "inkie".. that word alone screams fear/scared, nauseated, i dont understand what makes a grown ass man act like a child...yes i know this is GD and all. but its a constant theme with tattoos around here. I guess i dont see it or am aware of that type of "phobia" in everyday life where i am. but here, its like the mark of the beast to some.. very strange   so thats where i am with all this
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 5:58:00 AM EDT
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your going to scare the children, or i guess grown men if thats what they are..lol
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:01:03 AM EDT
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I’m torn on it, myself. Got my tats in my late teens and early twenties. I’m 43 now and pretty much hate the way they look on me. So, yeah, I can see why some view them as a sign of poor decision making. At the same time, I’ve not seen much evidence that tattoos are holding anyone back from gainful employment or from living a productive life in society. I think it’s probable that a loser with a neck tatttoo was probably going to be a loser with or without the neck tattoo. I also know dudes with neck tattoos who are highly successful and are good fathers/husbands.

People on here like to attack groups in general, because that way it’s easy to offend others without breaking the CoC.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:03:13 AM EDT
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Ive noticed from time to time that members will comment when they see a tattoo or someone with a tattoo and cry about it and post that stupid f'ing faggotty sounding word "inkie"... first off that word truly does make one who says that sound very light in the loafers, almost like a todler.. or a gay tranny idk.. anyways what is the phobia with tattoos to yall?? are you guys like simps? do they make you scared?  seriously i dont get it.  

example in this thread where @9divdoc commented.. this thread which is pretty comical thread and everyone thought it was a funny pic yet someone freaked out and cried "inkies! "

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/New-Football-team-Salt-Lake-City-Caucasians/5-2481281/?page=1

I just dont get it, help me understand
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to the dumbass boomer crowd tats = criminal/bum/druggy

old people are like that sometimes. My grandma still shits a brick that I have long hair and a full beard. "YOU'LL NEVER GET A JOB!




*I'm going to edit to add, I do have my limits. I think face/neck/hand tats look stupid as fuck. I'm a pretty big believer in any tat I get(I currently don't have any) will be able to be covered up.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:04:50 AM EDT
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I probably have one of the most “White Collar” careers on this site and I have half-sleeve on each arm.

It’s covered up by my work attire but I have no regrets. In my AO there are more people tattooed than not, probably goes for the entire Floridian peninsula
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:06:49 AM EDT
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I’m torn on it, myself. Got my tats in my late teens and early twenties. I’m 43 now and pretty much hate the way they look on me. So, yeah, I can see why some view them as a sign of poor decision making. At the same time, I’ve not seen much evidence that tattoos are holding anyone back from gainful employment or from living a productive life in society. I think it’s probable that a loser with a neck tatttoo was probably going to be a loser with or without the neck tattoo. I also know dudes with neck tattoos who are highly successful and are good fathers/husbands.

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i smell what your cooking,  most of us have made bad decisions in life, but we move on. but being judgmental towards someone, or having a mindset pre made up about someone due to having a tattoo to me is border line mental illness, it may not even be about the tattoos, maybe there is some trauma related to that type of phobia, idk. just trying to understand why some are that way..
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:07:17 AM EDT
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The life of a pure skin is very different from the life of an inkie.

I don't have a bail bondsman, parole officer, or public defender on speed dial.

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:11:29 AM EDT
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to the dumbass boomer crowd tats = criminal/bum/druggy

old people are like that sometimes. My grandma still shits a brick that I have long hair and a full beard. "YOU'LL NEVER GET A JOB!




*I'm going to edit to add, I do have my limits. I think face/neck/hand tats look stupid as fuck. I'm a pretty big believer in any tat I get(I currently don't have any) will be able to be covered up.
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Ive noticed from time to time that members will comment when they see a tattoo or someone with a tattoo and cry about it and post that stupid f'ing faggotty sounding word "inkie"... first off that word truly does make one who says that sound very light in the loafers, almost like a todler.. or a gay tranny idk.. anyways what is the phobia with tattoos to yall?? are you guys like simps? do they make you scared?  seriously i dont get it.  

example in this thread where @9divdoc commented.. this thread which is pretty comical thread and everyone thought it was a funny pic yet someone freaked out and cried "inkies! "

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/New-Football-team-Salt-Lake-City-Caucasians/5-2481281/?page=1

I just dont get it, help me understand


to the dumbass boomer crowd tats = criminal/bum/druggy

old people are like that sometimes. My grandma still shits a brick that I have long hair and a full beard. "YOU'LL NEVER GET A JOB!




*I'm going to edit to add, I do have my limits. I think face/neck/hand tats look stupid as fuck. I'm a pretty big believer in any tat I get(I currently don't have any) will be able to be covered up.


agreed, mine are covered with clothes i wear, and i also think face tattoos are nasty, but they can do whatever they want, and should be able to do that without being shamed. I guess i was raised different, idk.  but i dont get grossed out to the point it distracts me from being level headed nor will i place judgement on the person. and yea my grandparents also had a more puritan mindset, and my parents do to on some things. I guess different generations are less tolerable on minor things. its trivial to me that some here just get down right disgusted and shame people they dont even know about it. to me that is the definition of phobia in a way.. also there is an actual name for that phobia..tatouazophobia and its painfully obvious that many here have it..
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:15:39 AM EDT
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I see tattoos everyday on people. I’m aware most tattoos are expensive so inkies feels.
Very few tattoos look like they were done by someone older than a 5 year old with a box of dull crayons.

I’ve yet to see something worthy of adding to booking photos.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:16:43 AM EDT
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The life of a pure skin is very different from the life of an inkie.

I don't have a bail bondsman, parole officer, or public defender on speed dial.

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pure skins must have a horrible fearful life, kinda sad.


lol I do, but i spent 15 years in law enforcement.. lol.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:19:54 AM EDT
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ARFCOM is full of ultra conservative fuddy duddy old dudes that hate all kinds of stuff. The type of dude who thinks tattoos = criminals, or that having one affects your job prospects, etc.
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Same guys who think women should have a giant bush crawling out of their panties.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:20:10 AM EDT
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I don't like tattoos. I'd say 99.9% of them look horrid. But this is America. If you want tattoos get them.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:20:14 AM EDT
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Rated troll thread.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:22:33 AM EDT
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maybe, i guess im trying to understand why they are trash in your eyes? honest question.
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They look like trash.

That is the answer you were seeking.




maybe, i guess im trying to understand why they are trash in your eyes? honest question.


They'll never say the real reason, especially to someone's face.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:23:10 AM EDT
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agreed, mine are covered with clothes i wear, and i also think face tattoos are nasty, but they can do whatever they want, and should be able to do that without being shamed. I guess i was raised different, idk.  but i dont get grossed out to the point it distracts me from being level headed nor will i place judgement on the person. and yea my grandparents also had a more puritan mindset, and my parents do to on some things. I guess different generations are less tolerable on minor things. its trivial to me that some here just get down right disgusted and shame people they dont even know about it. to me that is the definition of phobia in a way.. also there is an actual name for that phobia..tatouazophobia and its painfully obvious that many here have it..
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yep. I'm pretty sure we had a thread in the last week or so that literally was "would you hire this person? she is a great worker but has tattoos"

I left it alone because it was full stupid.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:23:20 AM EDT
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are you a wethers original? lol, why do you think im a troll? because i asked a legit question on the phobia of tattoos around here?
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:23:30 AM EDT
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I’m torn on it, myself. Got my tats in my late teens and early twenties. I’m 43 now and pretty much hate the way they look on me. So, yeah, I can see why some view them as a sign of poor decision making. At the same time, I’ve not seen much evidence that tattoos are holding anyone back from gainful employment or from living a productive life in society. I think it’s probable that a loser with a neck tatttoo was probably going to be a loser with or without the neck tattoo. I also know dudes with neck tattoos who are highly successful and are good fathers/husbands.

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I'm sure there are lots of good guys out there with neck tattoos. I just happen to not know any of them. I wasn't joking or exaggerating, every guy I ever knew with a neck tattoo was a felon. Sample sizes be like that sometimes.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:24:05 AM EDT
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yep. I'm pretty sure we had a thread in the last week or so that literally was "would you hire this person? she is a great worker but has tattoos"

I left it alone because it was full stupid.
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agreed, mine are covered with clothes i wear, and i also think face tattoos are nasty, but they can do whatever they want, and should be able to do that without being shamed. I guess i was raised different, idk.  but i dont get grossed out to the point it distracts me from being level headed nor will i place judgement on the person. and yea my grandparents also had a more puritan mindset, and my parents do to on some things. I guess different generations are less tolerable on minor things. its trivial to me that some here just get down right disgusted and shame people they dont even know about it. to me that is the definition of phobia in a way.. also there is an actual name for that phobia..tatouazophobia and its painfully obvious that many here have it..

yep. I'm pretty sure we had a thread in the last week or so that literally was "would you hire this person? she is a great worker but has tattoos"

I left it alone because it was full stupid.



i missed that one, prob. glad i did.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:24:18 AM EDT
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That one was fuckin brutal and the sad thing is it looks better than some of the stuff I see every day.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:26:02 AM EDT
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Phobia is a pretty strong word that doesn't apply to tattoos. People don't fear tattoos, they either like them or they don't. I couldn't care less about someone's tattoos. I'll stay a pureskin because I don't want them, simple as that.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:26:39 AM EDT
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Tattoos give the perception of a lower class person with very poor decision making skills.
Head and neck Tattoos ... you're a loon.
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are you a wethers original? lol, why do you think im a troll? because i asked a legit question on the phobia of tattoos around here?
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are you a wethers original? lol, why do you think im a troll? because i asked a legit question on the phobia of tattoos around here?
What is a wethers original?

Anyway, you posted a thread with the intention of arguing and you've responded to a lot of the posts with name calling and insults. That's why. No need to get too upset. I didn't report you or anything.  But it is what it is.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:30:14 AM EDT
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What is a wethers original?

Anyway, you posted a thread with the intention of arguing and you've responded to a lot of the posts with name calling and insults. That's why. No need to get too upset. I didn't report you or anything.  But it is what it is.
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are you a wethers original? lol, why do you think im a troll? because i asked a legit question on the phobia of tattoos around here?
What is a wethers original?

Anyway, you posted a thread with the intention of arguing and you've responded to a lot of the posts with name calling and insults. That's why. No need to get too upset. I didn't report you or anything.  But it is what it is.

Leave him alone. He is sad other men don't like his tattoos.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:30:56 AM EDT
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Same guys who think women should have a giant bush crawling out of their panties.
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Hey now!!! Ain’t nothing wrong with a bush...gives that pussy some character.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:31:01 AM EDT
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It's body trash
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Ive noticed from time to time that members will comment when they see a tattoo or someone with a tattoo and cry about it and post that stupid f'ing faggotty sounding word "inkie"... first off that word truly does make one who says that sound very light in the loafers, almost like a todler.. or a gay tranny idk.. anyways what is the phobia with tattoos to yall?? are you guys like simps? do they make you scared?  seriously i dont get it.  

example in this thread where @9divdoc commented.. this thread which is pretty comical thread and everyone thought it was a funny pic yet someone freaked out and cried "inkies! "

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/New-Football-team-Salt-Lake-City-Caucasians/5-2481281/?page=1

I just dont get it, help me understand

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You'll find that whatever the topic is there is someone here who hates it and will be the most vocal about it in the thread.
It is also always the OP's (of the post) fault whatever happened in the thread.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:34:07 AM EDT
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The reality is it's not arfcom. It's a small percentage of post whores who hate everything. Inkie, bald, gay, fat, pointy elbows, etc .. Either conform to the percentage of haters or get some hate. Other than those true believer trolls others just play along for giggles.

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I love this


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Ffs OP your desperate call out to your inkie friends to joke around at “blank skins” and “werther’s originals” is exactly the behavior that reinforces everything everyone was saying about you guys.
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I think they view them as a “class indicator”.For men with tattoos those are men to avoid for any number of reasons.For women it means she’s not some perfect fairytale princess...Kind of fucked up if you ask me.It’s judging people based on the color of their skin.
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Tattoos are a choice. Color of your skin is not.
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:37:33 AM EDT
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"...phobia" is a misuse of the word. A phobia is a fear, but what those phases actually refer to is contempt.




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What is a wethers original?

Anyway, you posted a thread with the intention of arguing and you've responded to a lot of the posts with name calling and insults. That's why. No need to get too upset. I didn't report you or anything.  But it is what it is.
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are you a wethers original? lol, why do you think im a troll? because i asked a legit question on the phobia of tattoos around here?
What is a wethers original?

Anyway, you posted a thread with the intention of arguing and you've responded to a lot of the posts with name calling and insults. That's why. No need to get too upset. I didn't report you or anything.  But it is what it is.



it means you are a boomer or geriatric.. if you feel that thin skinned about it go ahead and report me, if you feel like you need to be the arfcom karen then feel free to do so. in all the years ive been a member here i havnt once hit that button.  lol. i honestly started this thread to engage folks on the issue here.. and i feel like it went well.  show me the name calling and insults that offended you
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Leave him alone. He is sad other men don't like his tattoos.
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are you a wethers original? lol, why do you think im a troll? because i asked a legit question on the phobia of tattoos around here?
What is a wethers original?

Anyway, you posted a thread with the intention of arguing and you've responded to a lot of the posts with name calling and insults. That's why. No need to get too upset. I didn't report you or anything.  But it is what it is.

Leave him alone. He is sad other men don't like his tattoos.



lol, you got me,  on the flip side isnt it more disturbing that there are men here alarmed by other mens tattoos?? thats the real question
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"...phobia" is a misuse of the word. A phobia is a fear, but what those phases actually refer to is contempt.




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tatouazophobia  look it up
Link Posted: 8/24/2021 6:41:10 AM EDT
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“Why come you don’t have tattoo?”-Dr. Mercedes
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I have sleeves. Probably have paid more taxes than some people will earn in their lifetime.

Whatever. I do not take the "pure skin" people seriously. I hate metal on faces, colored hair, and judge face tattoos.

Septum piercings are the worst. Take a beautiful face and ruin it.



"Go to heaven for the climate; go to hell for the company" - Mark Twain
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Ffs OP your desperate call out to your inkie friends to joke around at “blank skins” and “werther’s originals” is exactly the behavior that reinforces everything everyone was saying about you guys.
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thats a nope from me hoss, I bring up the fact and asked a question on the rampant phobia of tattoos around here and i along with other got jumped on and judged... so if you cant take the heat, well you know the rest..dont let it hit ya on the way out
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OP is doing a great job reinforcing stereotypes.
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it means you are a boomer or geriatric.. if you feel that thin skinned about it go ahead and report me, lol. i honestly started this thread to engage folks on the issue here.. and i feel like it went well.  show me the name calling and insults that offended you
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are you a wethers original? lol, why do you think im a troll? because i asked a legit question on the phobia of tattoos around here?
What is a wethers original?

Anyway, you posted a thread with the intention of arguing and you've responded to a lot of the posts with name calling and insults. That's why. No need to get too upset. I didn't report you or anything.  But it is what it is.



it means you are a boomer or geriatric.. if you feel that thin skinned about it go ahead and report me, lol. i honestly started this thread to engage folks on the issue here.. and i feel like it went well.  show me the name calling and insults that offended you
Tell me then, what did you mean by "wethers original"? And how do you figure I'm a "boomer" or geriatric? I didn't say a word about your precious tattoos. Congratulations, you paid someone to color your skin. So youthful and badass.
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I've got mixed feelings about them but try not to judge.

That said, it's sometimes hard not to.  There's a guy at work who is well educated and has tattoos up and down his arms.  Smart guy and he isn't afraid of displaying his ink in the work place, I really don't give his ink a second thought, he's kind of weird and introverted so they more or less suit him.  Than there was the girl at the same place but in another department who had a neck tattoo, that to me speaks of poor judgement and poor life choices.

There are other people I've seen that are tatted up and I find myself being judgmental towards them due to the number of tattoos they have or the type of tattoo.  

I guess my thoughts are, is that the type of ink being worn as well as the placement of it says a lot about the person.
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Tell me then, what did you mean by "wethers original"? And how do you figure I'm a "boomer" or geriatric? I didn't say a word about your precious tattoos. Congratulations, you paid someone to color your skin. So youthful and badass.
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Rated troll thread.



are you a wethers original? lol, why do you think im a troll? because i asked a legit question on the phobia of tattoos around here?
What is a wethers original?

Anyway, you posted a thread with the intention of arguing and you've responded to a lot of the posts with name calling and insults. That's why. No need to get too upset. I didn't report you or anything.  But it is what it is.


yet your first post was "rated troll thread" without even reading the thread?! tell me how that makes since to you? sleepy joe is that you?


it means you are a boomer or geriatric.. if you feel that thin skinned about it go ahead and report me, lol. i honestly started this thread to engage folks on the issue here.. and i feel like it went well.  show me the name calling and insults that offended you
Tell me then, what did you mean by "wethers original"? And how do you figure I'm a "boomer" or geriatric? I didn't say a word about your precious tattoos. Congratulations, you paid someone to color your skin. So youthful and badass.


if you would have read the thread like a normal person would i wouldnt have to hold your hand, you would know... but feel free to be the arfcom karen and hit that report button! lol  do i need to put it in braille what karen means for you?  


for the record im far from my youthful days
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