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Posted: 3/19/2024 2:03:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She still looks great Been to her last four tours, will go to the next one aswell. Nothing wrong with any age. I just felt a lot of "this generation" and "she's just young" types of comments seemed misled... maybe not, idk. To me a 16-24 year old better fits those types of comments... but perhaps that's just me. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 2:11:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: I dont get it. Average face, 12 year boy body, average at best voice, her songs are nearly indistinguishable from each other, lyrics are full of teen angst. Who the fuck listens to this crap. Her target audience has to be 6 to 14 year old girls because anyone with any taste in music cannot find her “music” remotely entertaining. Its like listening to dirty asshole. I don't get it either. I've never heard her sing, and likely never will. Her looks are average, but I can see how pre-teen boys would find her attractive. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 2:23:35 AM EDT
[#3]
She was fine to listen to before she took herself too seriously. The whole "sultry club beats artist" shtick doesn't really suit her IMO, but it was a brilliant marketing move that got her original tween and teen girl fan base to stick around into their twenties and thirties.
Oh, and any adult who refers to her as "Tay-Tay" with a straight face might have their own lost adolescence issues. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 2:33:12 AM EDT
[#4]
I don't really feel compelled to.
There is so much music available on demand, that there literally aren't enough hours available for the rest of my life to listen to it all. There's that much. I'm so spoiled for choices at this point, that I can't really be bothered to wonder why Taylor Swift resonates with anybody, for any reason. She doesn't resonate with me, and that's fine - because in physical media alone, I've got ~1,200 LPs to occupy my time. And when that's not enough, I have YouTube and Spotify - both of which are as near as makes no difference, an infinite source of even more music. There are tens of thousands of artists I will never hear, who I'd no doubt find just as uninteresting as Taylor Swift. And I don't feel any real need to preemptively guess why I wouldn't care for them either.  |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 2:47:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't really feel compelled to. There is so much music available on demand, that there literally aren't enough hours available for the rest of my life to listen to it all. There's that much. I'm so spoiled for choices at this point, that I can't really be bothered to wonder why Taylor Swift resonates with anybody, for any reason. She doesn't resonate with me, and that's fine - because in physical media alone, I've got ~1,200 LPs to occupy my time. And when that's not enough, I have YouTube and Spotify - both of which are as near as makes no difference, an infinite source of even more music. There are tens of thousands of artists I will never hear, who I'd no doubt find just as uninteresting as Taylor Swift. And I don't feel any real need to preemptively guess why I wouldn't care for them either. If it wasn’t for kids, I’d also put Taylor Swift in the “who cares” bucket. The difference is, I can hand my 12 year old daughter a guitar and she can play a Taylor Swift song. She can also play a Guns & Roses song, or Metallica. But you get my drift. When was that age, I also was into what was famous and popular. It’s only later that I didn’t care that no one else had ever heard of the music I like - self actualization and all that. So for now, I listen to more Taylor Swift than I would, ideally. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 2:51:49 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted: I dont get it. Average face, 12 year boy body, average at best voice, her songs are nearly indistinguishable from each other, lyrics are full of teen angst. Who the fuck listens to this crap. Her target audience has to be 6 to 14 year old girls because anyone with any taste in music cannot find her “music” remotely entertaining. Its like listening to dirty asshole.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 3:18:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The difference is, I can hand my 12 year old daughter a guitar and she can play a Taylor Swift song. She can also play a Guns & Roses song, or Metallica. But you get my drift. When was that age, I also was into what was famous and popular. It's only later that I didn't care that no one else had ever heard of the music I like - self actualization and all that. So for now, I listen to more Taylor Swift than I would, ideally. I'm waaaaaay too preoccupied with my own shit, to get too deep into the weeds wondering why other people (especially kids) listen to their shit. And even if I did come with a reason why Taylor Swift was so popular (like - a super deep academic understanding of it, hypothetically), I'm not sure how useful that knowledge would be. What would I even do with that knowledge? So I'm right back to "It doesn't matter, really". 
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Posted: 3/19/2024 3:20:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That does seem to come with age (I'm 44). I'm waaaaaay too preoccupied with my own shit, to get too deep into the weeds wondering why other people (especially kids) listen to their shit. And even if I did come with a reason why Taylor Swift was so popular (like - a super deep academic understanding of it, hypothetically), I'm not sure how useful that knowledge would be. What would I even do with that knowledge? So I'm right back to "It doesn't matter, really". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The difference is, I can hand my 12 year old daughter a guitar and she can play a Taylor Swift song. She can also play a Guns & Roses song, or Metallica. But you get my drift. When was that age, I also was into what was famous and popular. It's only later that I didn't care that no one else had ever heard of the music I like - self actualization and all that. So for now, I listen to more Taylor Swift than I would, ideally. I'm waaaaaay too preoccupied with my own shit, to get too deep into the weeds wondering why other people (especially kids) listen to their shit. And even if I did come with a reason why Taylor Swift was so popular (like - a super deep academic understanding of it, hypothetically), I'm not sure how useful that knowledge would be. What would I even do with that knowledge? So I'm right back to "It doesn't matter, really". I’m with you. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 3:20:02 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted: I dont get it. Average face, 12 year boy body, average at best voice, her songs are nearly indistinguishable from each other, lyrics are full of teen angst. Who the fuck listens to this crap. Her target audience has to be 6 to 14 year old girls because anyone with any taste in music cannot find her “music” remotely entertaining. Its like listening to dirty asshole. Slightly above average communist whore who appeals largely to teeny boppers and...apparently, weirdo arfcommers, even though the petty bitch spends all her time supporting democrats and whining about guns. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 3:24:46 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Slightly above average communist whore who appeals largely to teeny boppers and...apparently, weirdo arfcommers, even though the petty bitch spends all her time supporting democrats and whining about guns. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont get it. Average face, 12 year boy body, average at best voice, her songs are nearly indistinguishable from each other, lyrics are full of teen angst. Who the fuck listens to this crap. Her target audience has to be 6 to 14 year old girls because anyone with any taste in music cannot find her "music" remotely entertaining. Its like listening to dirty asshole. Slightly above average communist whore who appeals largely to teeny boppers and...apparently, weirdo arfcommers, even though the petty bitch spends all her time supporting democrats and whining about guns. I'm just not into that style of music (it bores me to tears), and it more or less ends there.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 6:06:32 AM EDT
[#11]
Flat chested Elvis with less talent
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Posted: 3/19/2024 6:16:31 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Flat chested Elvis with less talent And those friggin' shiny ass tights or spanks that she wears look dumb. I assume it's to hide cellulite or white legs with veins or something. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 6:33:57 AM EDT
[#13]
So not being able to avoid them pimping out her new “Eras”:tour, I at first found the name to be only slightly annoying.
However, after being exposed to the latest Disney + propaganda piece where she explains that she’s been making music for 17 years and many different “eras”, I now find the arrogance absolutely infuriating. I know it’s just a calculated marketing ploy by one of her managers / record producers but it seems to me she’s had exactly two modes. The first 8 years she spent as a fake country artist that sang about kid stuff. This was fair enough as she was a kid. The second 8 years she has rebranded as Pop singer, only nothing has changed about her songs. This is despite her now being much closer to 40 than 17. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 6:39:03 AM EDT
[#14]
Grown men on a gun forum are obsessed with her and starts about her everyday.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 6:48:11 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So not being able to avoid them pimping out her new “Eras”:tour, I at first found the name to be only slightly annoying. However, after being exposed to the latest Disney + propaganda piece where she explains that she’s been making music for 17 years and many different “eras”, I now find the arrogance absolutely infuriating. I know it’s just a calculated marketing ploy by one of her managers / record producers but it seems to me she’s had exactly two modes. The first 8 years she spent as a fake country artist that sang about kid stuff. This was fair enough as she was a kid. The second 8 years she has rebranded as Pop singer, only nothing has changed about her songs. This is despite her now being much closer to 40 than 17. Spot on. I remember watching her open the NFL season during her young "era" and she was very unpolished. Her voice was weak and pitchy. She's probably better now, though I'll never know because I won't watch her perform. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 7:17:00 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted: I dont get it. Average face, 12 year boy body, average at best voice, her songs are nearly indistinguishable from each other, lyrics are full of teen angst. Who the fuck listens to this crap. Her target audience has to be 6 to 14 year old girls because anyone with any taste in music cannot find her “music” remotely entertaining. Its like listening to dirty asshole. Nailed it. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 8:59:26 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is correct. OP, you may not like her music or her looks or her style. All the evidence points to her immense success, charity and business acumen. If you do not understand that, it does not make you edgy, it makes you look stupid. Basically what you are saying is you do not understand success because you do not know what it looks like. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: She has a net worth of about a billion dollars. Billion with a "B". You're right. She has no appeal to anyone.... This is correct. OP, you may not like her music or her looks or her style. All the evidence points to her immense success, charity and business acumen. If you do not understand that, it does not make you edgy, it makes you look stupid. Basically what you are saying is you do not understand success because you do not know what it looks like.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:00:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't listen to pedophiles. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ummm, Michael Jackson would like to have a word with you. I don't listen to pedophiles. Virtue signal duly noted, but that’s has nothing to do with my comment. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:25:33 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The type of grown women that like her are the same types that graduate high school, go to college to be teachers, graduate college and then go back to school as a teacher and end up having sex with one their students. They're mentally or emotionally stunted. They want to keep living like they're 16 years old. My wife and I were in a James Avery store and there was a lady in her late 30s/early 40s who was loudly declaring to the employees that she was starting a Taylor Swift themed charm bracelet. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:48:24 AM EDT
[#20]
She's a talentless hack promoted by the industry. A vapid creation of the same people who brought you Brittany Spears, et. al
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:51:09 AM EDT
[#21]
Just the new pretty face that's pushed by hollywierd
don't worry next year it will be someone new |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:53:29 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She's cute and her songs are catchy and pleasant. It's not everyone else, it's you. Don't cut yourself on that edge. Basically this. Let's all jump on the hate on TS bandwagon, Arfcom. Don't try to think for yourself. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:57:40 AM EDT
[#23]
Became a satanist and is promoted by the satanist to influence the masses. You don't get anywhere in the entertainment industry until you sell your soul.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:58:32 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: I dont get it. Average face, 12 year boy body, average at best voice, her songs are nearly indistinguishable from each other, lyrics are full of teen angst. Who the fuck listens to this crap. Her target audience has to be 6 to 14 year old girls because anyone with any taste in music cannot find her “music” remotely entertaining. Its like listening to dirty asshole. Well, clearly several Million if not Billion people disagree with your assessment. And they pay alot of money for her music, concerts and apparel. So you're the stupid one, not her. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:02:24 AM EDT
[#25]
I honestly fear she sadly might be the last "pop star" that parents can take their kids to see. She's NOT glamorizing "the thug life" and killing cops and taking drugs and God knows what else.
If ya don't like her, that's cool, but IMHO these kinds of reasonably positive pop stars are becoming rarer these days, as music and its culture continue to devolve. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:03:11 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For some reason she appeals to 40 year old women found the ghey |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:03:11 AM EDT
[#27]
Add in the haircut and you sound like my parents complaining about The Beatles.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:04:36 AM EDT
[#28]
Taylor Swift is old boomer music these days. She is pushing 40 years old.
Olivia Rodriguez is the new teenie bopper music. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:16:25 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For some reason she appeals to 40 year old women 40 year old women want to be 20 again. Lots of her current middle aged fans came up with her. More of all ages are being added due to the insane level of exposure. She's mastered the pop formula and kept both the music and her public persona neutral enough to be ok almost everywhere. You can not like her music and that's ok, but the mere fact that she does write songs, plays an instrument, and doesn't spend the whole time twerking on stage puts her ahead 87% of our current "musicians". She's putting the work in, and it's really quite amazing what she's managed to do without being an exceptional signer or being insanely hot. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:18:35 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Repairs clothing, has very rapid turn around. Hahahahhahahahah |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:55:29 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She's a talentless hack promoted by the industry. A vapid creation of the same people who brought you Brittany Spears, et. al Username checks out. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:09:58 AM EDT
[#32]
IMO her popularity is boosted by the fact that she's not covered in tattooes, doesn't act (much) like a whore, etc.
Compared to 95% of other pop artists over the past 10 years or so, and she comes off as wholesome. Thus, she appeals to a broad range of middle Americans. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:10:54 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IMO her popularity is boosted by the fact that she's not covered in tattooes, doesn't act (much) like a whore, etc. Compared to 95% of other pop artists over the past 10 years or so, and she comes off as wholesome. Thus, she appeals to a broad range of middle Americans. Tattoos are far more accepted than GD would have you believe. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:14:21 AM EDT
[#34]
Some of y'all don't crank up Miss Americana to 11 in your 2500 Ram and it shows!
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:15:07 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree, OP. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:35:13 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You should though. Her concerts are a lot of fun, and something you and your daughter would remember forever. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My 5 year old daughter loves her music. I play a variety most days on the way to daycare. I won't be shelling out for concert tickets though. You should though. Her concerts are a lot of fun, and something you and your daughter would remember forever. Hell No. With lyrics like, "they say I did something bad, then why's it feel so good?" gay men in tight leather snake costumes feeling her up, and her demonic symbolism, that's one of the worst things a dad could do to his young girl. And frankly, it's a wicked suggestion.   
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:35:18 AM EDT
[#37]
Don't recall ever hearing her music. That said, why all the hostility? Some of you think god endowed you with the power to decide for others what they should do. And the 12 year old body comments are just sad. What little I've seen of TS doesn't look like any 12 year old boys physique. Maybe some of the closet pedo's here should expand their musical horizons...
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:41:20 AM EDT
[#38]
I need to give some of her music a try. I woulda never, ever considered listening to Lady Gaga, and my wife turned me on to "Poker Face". That's one I love to blast when I'm driving sometimes. IMO there's some serious cool grove in that one, that takes you away in a wave of audio pleasure. Gotta have a strong sub to fully appreciate it IMO.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:43:04 AM EDT
[#39]
As far as her music, lots of people grew up listening to her so it’s familiar so that’s what they like/listen to just like every other genre of music
As far as men going crazy over her, most dudes are married/involved with cheese hog/ borderline cheese hog women with shit attitude….she’s not ugly, not fat and comes across as upbeat so the exact opposite of what most men are attached to I don’t see the attraction, being generous she’s average at best |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:45:50 AM EDT
[#40]
My little girls don't need to listen to this. Parents, teachers, this is what's influencing your children. This isn't the same Taylor Swift of 20 years ago.
"I never trust a narcissist But they love me So I play 'em like a violin And I make it look, oh, so easy 'Cause for every lie I tell them They tell me three This is how the world works Now all he thinks about is me I can feel the flames on my skin Crimson red paint on my lips If a man talks shit, then I owe him nothing I don't regret it one bit, 'cause he had it comin' They say I did something bad Then why's it feel so good? They say I did something bad Then why's it feel so good? Most fun I ever had And I'd do it over and over And over again if I could It just felt so good, good I never trust a playboy But they love me So I fly 'em all around the world And I let them think they saved me They never see it coming What I do next This is how the world works You gotta leave before you get left I can feel the flames on my skin He says, "Don't throw away a good thing" But if he drops my name, then I owe him nothing And if he spends my change, then he had it comin' They say I did something bad Then why's it feel so good? They say I did something bad Then why's it feel so good? Most fun I ever had And I'd do it over and over And over again if I could It just felt so good, good It just felt so good They're burning all the witches even if you aren't one They got their pitchforks and proof Their receipts and reasons They're burning all the witches even if you aren't one So light me up, light me up (Light me up, light me up) Light me up, go ahead and light me up (Light me up, light me up) Light me up, light me up (Light me up, light me up) Light me up, light me up (Light me up) They say I did something bad Then why's it feel so good? (Good) They say I did something bad Then why's it feel so good? Most fun I ever had (Most fun I ever had) And I'd do it over and over, and over again if I could It just felt so good, good Oh, they say I did something bad (They say I did something bad) Then why's it feel so good, good? So bad, why's it feel so good? Why's it feel, why's it feel so good? (Bad) It just felt so good, good" |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 11:46:14 AM EDT
[#41]
music is decent.
she isn't that hot though...I wish her luck taming Travis Kelce's hog |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:05:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Madonna
Michael Jackson U2 … It’s like that. She’s a pop singer…. Pop music has always been mindless drivel. She’s a vapid representative of a vapid generation, singing songs about her fucked up relationships to the most socially fucked up generation this planet has ever produced. Whoever figured out how to monetize her millenial angst is brilliant, though. Anyone who thinks her looks are “average” needs to go girl watching at Walmart and get back to us. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:06:49 PM EDT
[#43]
Every single one of her "songs" is useless annoying drivel.
If all the songs in the world, there are only about six that will cause me to immediately turn off the radio or change the station...yeah, I like radio.. And to that half dozen you can add anything by Taylor Swift. She comes on the air, and it's an immediate reach for the button. .bye Bitch... I don't get it. All her songs channel the " I'm a victim, men bad" vibe, so it must be an estrogen channelling attraction with female listeners. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:08:34 PM EDT
[#44]
We need a Taylor Swift forum.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:13:28 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She's an archetype of the most popular girl in high school, which explains why so many women love her and so many men hate her. I think you have that backwards |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:14:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She's a talentless hack promoted by the industry. A vapid creation of the same people who brought you Brittany Spears, et. al The industry stopping having to promote her a long time ago. All those 40 year old women who love her didn’t just wake up yesterday loving her; they’ve been fans for nearly 20 years. Guess who loves the shit out of her now? 5 year olds. She’ll be doing the Super Bowl 75 halftime show while we’re outside yelling at clouds. Plus, since she isn’t doing stupid stuff to get 9-figure judgements dropped on her, she is going to rapidly go from “billionaire” to “multibillionaire”. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:19:43 PM EDT
[#47]
Because she’s a good songwriter and singer from country and pop. Half her music is from when she was younger so of course it makes sense that her songs reflect a younger age than she is now. Would you rather have girls lining up for a singer like Cardi B that sings “bring a bucket and a mop for this Wet Ass Pussy. Give me everything you got for this Wet Ass Pussy”
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:26:52 PM EDT
[#48]
She’s become a type of Demi-god to 30-40 yr old women and simps. They literally worship her.
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:34:58 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The type of grown women that like her are the same types that graduate high school, go to college to be teachers, graduate college and then go back to school as a teacher and end up having sex with one their students. They're mentally or emotionally stunted. They want to keep living like they're 16 years old.  Or have 126 IQ, 3 degrees, practice law, have been married for 12 years, and are none of those things but like dumb pop music because it's catchy. |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 12:43:43 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Virtue signal duly noted, but that’s has nothing to do with my comment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Ummm, Michael Jackson would like to have a word with you. I don't listen to pedophiles. Virtue signal duly noted, but that’s has nothing to do with my comment. Well he's dead and isn't going to have a word with me, but Taylor Swift has beaten him in some areas already and she isn't done yet. So the inevitable will happen and she'll be wind up passing him in the next decade. |
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