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Posted: 7/2/2018 8:33:55 PM EDT

In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk

I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark.

How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:35:13 PM EDT

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Both are on EST time correct? One is quite a bit west of the other.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:35:33 PM EDT

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lol

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:37:26 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/2/2018 8:37:59 PM EDT

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The world rotates east to west and Ohio is further west than N.C. thus still gets sun when N.C. is dark. Take a ball and shine a light on it. Put a dot for N.C. and one for Ohio. Then rotate the ball and see how the Ohio dot is still in the light when the N.C. is not.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:37:59 PM EDT

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You were supposed to stock up on your daylight savings time before going back to Ohio.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:38:37 PM EDT

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In North Carolina you have to stand on top of your Yeti to see the sun at 9:15.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:39:13 PM EDT

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In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk

I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark.

How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it

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We should just have the same time zone for the entire country that way the sun would set at the same time on both coasts. Amirite?

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:39:26 PM EDT

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Sweet jesus... and im sure OP has strong opinions on science topics...

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:39:37 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/2/2018 8:40:06 PM EDT

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Latitude matters. That’s the north south point on the globe. If you’re further north in the summer, you get more daylight than the equator.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:40:56 PM EDT

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Magic!

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:41:35 PM EDT

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OP, if you drive west fast enough, it'll never get dark.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:41:42 PM EDT

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I bet you and Einstein are laughing your asses off.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:42:35 PM EDT

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I sleep better at night knowing you are a LEO.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:42:37 PM EDT

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Are you on a thread-mill ?

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:43:27 PM EDT

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Sunset here tonight is 9:54 p.m.
Days just started getting shorter, Winter is coming.

https://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/ab-52_metric_e.html

OMGWTFLGTBBQ !!!

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:43:50 PM EDT

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In ohio at this time of year at 9:15pm it is still light out, just getting dusk

I was recently on the North Carolina coast and at 9:15pm it was pitch dark.

How is this? Same time zones? I'm ignorant to it

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When you first meet people, do they talk slowly and loud to you? Maybe say they like your helmet?

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:44:51 PM EDT

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Stay in Ohio... Problem solved

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:45:24 PM EDT

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So, because Ohio is farther north, there is more sunlight during the summer. and less sunlight during the winter.

This gets more extreme as you get to the pole.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:46:25 PM EDT

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Longitude.... read the book by Dava Sobel.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:49:08 PM EDT

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For real?

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:51:48 PM EDT

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Cause we didn't divide the country into 15 minute time zones.....

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:52:34 PM EDT

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Less flux density in the magnetic field=MAGNETS.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:53:05 PM EDT

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Latitude matters. That’s the north south point on the globe. If you’re further north in the summer, you get more daylight than the equator.

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Someone gets it. At the Equator the days are pretty much 12 hours sunlight and 12 hours darkness. Plus or minus.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:54:09 PM EDT

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Who gives a fuck?
No bearing on my life.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:54:34 PM EDT

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Another mind teaser.....Say your on a flight from NYC to China and assuming you want most direct route ....would you fly due east or fly north over Greenland

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:55:25 PM EDT

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Get both..

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:56:13 PM EDT

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You’re farther south in the Carolinas.

Edit - beat

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:56:49 PM EDT

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We should just have the same time zone for the entire country that way the sun would set at the same time on both coasts. Amirite?

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Posted: 7/2/2018 8:58:59 PM EDT

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Bless your heart.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:59:02 PM EDT

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Lattitudes!!! How do they work???

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:59:03 PM EDT

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Another mind teaser.....Say your on a flight from NYC to China and assuming you want most direct route ....would you fly due east or fly north over Greenland

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Is this a Southwest flight?

How much alcohol is aboard?

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:59:47 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/2/2018 8:59:50 PM EDT

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East-West matters, North-South matters.

In terms of being further east for example, Albany NY is about 260 miles or so from Buffalo NY, and the sun set here about 20 minutes sooner.

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:01:47 PM EDT

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In the summer the farther north you are along the same line of longitude, the later the sun will set. Reverse is true in winter.

Within a time zone, the farther west you are the later the sun will set.

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:03:08 PM EDT

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First, get an orange and a flashlight, then, ...

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:04:05 PM EDT

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You're confusing a manmade concept like "time zones" which cover hundreds and hundreds of miles....
with actual geographic proximity to the terminator between day and night. Those who are furthest east see it
get darker first.

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:04:45 PM EDT

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yes, he's for real

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:06:26 PM EDT

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Is this a Southwest flight?

How much alcohol is aboard?

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Another mind teaser.....Say your on a flight from NYC to China and assuming you want most direct route ....would you fly due east or fly north over Greenland

Is this a Southwest flight?

How much alcohol is aboard?

We have a neighbor who adopted a child from China and they went over for a couple of weeks.....she still can’t figure out why they flew over Alaska from Detroit

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:08:07 PM EDT

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The world rotates east to west and Ohio is further west than N.C. thus still gets sun when N.C. is dark. Take a ball and shine a light on it. Put a dot for N.C. and one for Ohio. Then rotate the ball and see how the Ohio dot is still in the light when the N.C. is not.

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are you and OP related ?

how can the sun rise in the east yet rotates east to west?

we are wobbly rotating at 9xx mph per hour in a counterclockwise direction......

ETA: shit I might be wrong on that direction.....BRB

ETA2: nope I am right.......only Venus and *shikker* Yeranus runs clockwise

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:08:39 PM EDT

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Maybe this will help:

The shaded area represents night. Note how it slants up and down as the latitude and longitude vary.

FWIW, the green lines are the Auroral Oval, where the Auroras can be seen if its dark.

It's a real-time dynamic display, so will change minute by minute.

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:09:26 PM EDT

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Does OP know that it doesn't get dark all day at all in Alaska sometimes and then doesn't get light the opposite time of year? Earth-sun relationship...

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:11:06 PM EDT

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We have a neighbor who adopted a child from China and they went over for a couple of weeks.....she still can't figure out why they flew over Alaska from Detroit

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Another mind teaser.....Say your on a flight from NYC to China and assuming you want most direct route ....would you fly due east or fly north over Greenland

Is this a Southwest flight?

How much alcohol is aboard?

We have a neighbor who adopted a child from China and they went over for a couple of weeks.....she still can't figure out why they flew over Alaska from Detroit

Oh, wow...

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:11:12 PM EDT

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Maybe this will help:

http://www.spacew.com/www/realtime.gif

The shaded area represents night. Note how it slants up and down as the latitude and longitude vary.

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Seriously?
Baby steps, bro.
Op still wants to know if it is light or dark in the fridge when the doors closed.

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:12:08 PM EDT

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Observe and report

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:12:55 PM EDT

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“Noon” is technically defined as when the sun is directly overhead. If you were on the equator, saw the sun was directly overhead, and called a friend who was about 1,000 miles to the west of you, then he would tell you that the sun wouldn’t be directly overhead for another hour.

Back in the days before trains, phones, and telegraphs every single town had its own “noon.” It didn’t matter if a town a hundred miles to the east said noon happened a few minutes earlier than you did. Your fastest method of communication had hooves and ate grass.

But, when the telegraph came around and when railroads became a thing (Because railroads have to be strictly scheduled) everyone decided to standardize their times. To keep clocks at least somewhat tied to the sun time zones were invented.

But the time zone doesn’t override physics. Parts of Ohio are quite a bit to the West of parts of North Carolina and that means the sun is going to set later…

But there’s more. You might know that it stays light all day long above the Arctic circle during the late spring and early summer. And it stays dark all day long at the winter Solstice. This is due to the tilt of Earth’s axis.

Well, this effect doesn’t end at the Arctic circle. As you go north the length of the day during summer increases. Conversely the length of the night gets shorter in the winter as you go north. And Ohio is a bit to the North of North Carolina.

Combine those two effects and it was enough to make the difference you are seeing.

Posted: 7/2/2018 9:13:29 PM EDT

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The Earth is tilted on it's axis. It both rotates on it's axis AND revolves around the sun. The time it takes to do this is what we call one year...

Aw fuck it figure it out for yourself.