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Posted: 12/1/2021 4:40:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How easy do you think it would be to shoot FN USA an email and have them manufacture a unique barrel to your exact specs for you? It's true that Jim Hodge does not manufacture barrels, nor any other component, from scratch in his home. He does have connections from working in the industry (and carrying a gun for a long time) though. He probably did not scour ARF to make his small company, that's patently absurd, sir. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I remember when Kac/lmt fan boys were super fanatical over how good their stuff was. And it actually was. Hodge and the rest acting like they reinvented the wheel when in reality all they did was probably scour internet forums for mid to upper level quality companies and had them make parts for them. I don't know if they can be considered a boutique brand considering they don't make much of anything themselves. How easy do you think it would be to shoot FN USA an email and have them manufacture a unique barrel to your exact specs for you? It's true that Jim Hodge does not manufacture barrels, nor any other component, from scratch in his home. He does have connections from working in the industry (and carrying a gun for a long time) though. He probably did not scour ARF to make his small company, that's patently absurd, sir. I’m sure Mega/Zev would collaborate on a rail with me right? Or Alcoa would do a run of AILi uppers and lowers if I asked. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 4:49:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m sure Mega/Zev would collaborate on a rail with me right? Or Alcoa would do a run of AILi uppers and lowers if I asked. Obviously, what else would you need besides an ARF account to outsource unique designs? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 4:58:40 PM EDT
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I met Mike a few weeks ago at the solgw carbine match and the following weekend one of the other owners was in a Pressburg class with me(when the Rittenhouse verdict came out.) They both come across as solid dudes that support the community and the 2nd. Is there anyone else in the gun industry that spoke out more for Rittenhouse?
I don’t really care that they don’t manufacture anything themselves. Obviously building guns out of good parts is filling a place in the market. I doubt I’ll buy a complete gun from them because I’m invested in Lmt and Seekins but I’ve bought some parts from them and definitely will again. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:16:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: I remember when Kac/lmt fan boys were super fanatical over how good their stuff was. And it actually was. Hodge and the rest acting like they reinvented the wheel when in reality all they did was probably scour internet forums for mid to upper level quality companies and had them make parts for them. I don't know if they can be considered a boutique brand considering they don't make much of anything themselves. Hodge, SOLGW, Tri-Arc, Zev, and probably another one I am forgetting all share a rail design or two, which is a decent mind you, but other than that they don't really do anything special. They build franken guns out of mostly good parts, slap some instamarketing on that shit so people online don't get shamed for having a franken build and call it a day. I will give FCD a pass as I get the feeling someone actually designed a lot their stuff instead of just making a build list and putting it together. If I was building a quality upper while trying to save money, I would get an Aero upper and rail, PSA CHF barrel, PSA microbest carrier, and whatever flavor of charging handle you prefer. You really have zero idea what you are talking about. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:34:04 PM EDT
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SOLGW makes zero sense to me.
It's all BA/Aero with Schmidt small parts. That's 75% of every single fucking assembler out there. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:43:53 PM EDT
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Do other companies offer scallywag shivermetimbers parts??? I didn’t think so.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:46:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SOLGW makes zero sense to me. It's all BA/Aero with Schmidt small parts. That's 75% of every single fucking assembler out there. That's because your assumptions are incorrect and you don't understand what they do differently from most other places. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:47:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do other companies offer scallywag shivermetimbers parts??? I didn’t think so. Spikes?  You like asking questions but consistently avoid them, strange, I wonder why that is. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:47:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How easy do you think it would be to shoot FN USA an email and have them manufacture a unique barrel to your exact specs for you? It's true that Jim Hodge does not manufacture barrels, nor any other component, from scratch in his home. He does have connections from working in the industry (and carrying a gun for a long time) though. He probably did not scour ARF to make his small company, that's patently absurd, sir. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I remember when Kac/lmt fan boys were super fanatical over how good their stuff was. And it actually was. Hodge and the rest acting like they reinvented the wheel when in reality all they did was probably scour internet forums for mid to upper level quality companies and had them make parts for them. I don't know if they can be considered a boutique brand considering they don't make much of anything themselves. How easy do you think it would be to shoot FN USA an email and have them manufacture a unique barrel to your exact specs for you? It's true that Jim Hodge does not manufacture barrels, nor any other component, from scratch in his home. He does have connections from working in the industry (and carrying a gun for a long time) though. He probably did not scour ARF to make his small company, that's patently absurd, sir. Pretty much every oem manufacturer will if you front a percentage up front and commit to a large order of barrels. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:50:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You like asking questions but consistently avoid them, strange, I wonder why that is. Funny that you say that, because that's the gucci instagram club MO. "If you know you know" 
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:51:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really have zero idea what you are talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I remember when Kac/lmt fan boys were super fanatical over how good their stuff was. And it actually was. Hodge and the rest acting like they reinvented the wheel when in reality all they did was probably scour internet forums for mid to upper level quality companies and had them make parts for them. I don't know if they can be considered a boutique brand considering they don't make much of anything themselves. Hodge, SOLGW, Tri-Arc, Zev, and probably another one I am forgetting all share a rail design or two, which is a decent mind you, but other than that they don't really do anything special. They build franken guns out of mostly good parts, slap some instamarketing on that shit so people online don't get shamed for having a franken build and call it a day. I will give FCD a pass as I get the feeling someone actually designed a lot their stuff instead of just making a build list and putting it together. If I was building a quality upper while trying to save money, I would get an Aero upper and rail, PSA CHF barrel, PSA microbest carrier, and whatever flavor of charging handle you prefer. You really have zero idea what you are talking about. You actually want to back that up or are you going to use the standard fan boy vague question responses that they all use? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 5:55:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny that you say that, because that's the gucci instagram club MO. "If you know you know" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You like asking questions but consistently avoid them, strange, I wonder why that is. Funny that you say that, because that's the gucci instagram club MO. "If you know you know" So how does Hodge act like he reinvented the wheel? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:03:01 PM EDT
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Quoted: You actually want to back that up or are you going to use the standard fan boy vague question responses that they all use? Jim Hodge actually helped design that rail and has patents on them. He owns the dies to make the parts that he designed. Roger, Mike and Jim have all worked together at somepoint on new designs. Roger doesn't make parts nor does Jim or Mike. But they work out designs with manufacturers. Colt hardly make any of their parts. Just like your car, your cellphone and almost everything else you own. Parts are source. Get over yourself. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:04:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: So how does Hodge act like he reinvented the wheel? He never has but this guy and a few other say the same thing everytime his name comes up. Bunch of angry jealous men. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:08:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty much every oem manufacturer will if you front a percentage up front and commit to a large order of barrels. Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty much every oem manufacturer will if you front a percentage up front and commit to a large order of barrels. I would imagine we are talking a lot of money there. Assuming that is true (and it might be with enough money), how does that reflect negatively on the brand that specified the product? I mean, you still have to know what you're doing. If I was in the shoes of someone like Hodge, I would love to spec my own version of an AR with a bunch of premium brands. Even more so if people scrambled to buy them, too. Quoted: Funny that you say that, because that's the gucci instagram club MO. "If you know you know" Are you accusing Rickeses of being in the "gucci instagram club" (whatever the fuck that is)? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:11:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's because your assumptions are incorrect and you don't understand what they do differently from most other places. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SOLGW makes zero sense to me. It's all BA/Aero with Schmidt small parts. That's 75% of every single fucking assembler out there. That's because your assumptions are incorrect and you don't understand what they do differently from most other places. Ok Multiple posts in this thread about transparency and knowing what the buyer gets..... Apparently none of us know |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:31:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok Multiple posts in this thread about transparency and knowing what the buyer gets..... Apparently none of us know Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: SOLGW makes zero sense to me. It's all BA/Aero with Schmidt small parts. That's 75% of every single fucking assembler out there. That's because your assumptions are incorrect and you don't understand what they do differently from most other places. Ok Multiple posts in this thread about transparency and knowing what the buyer gets..... Apparently none of us know How many makers, manufacturers, assemblers or whatever you call them actually gauge, and test every one of their parts that come in? Not batch testing , but individually gauge and test? Wanna know why a Microbest BCG from sons cost more than one from PSA? Springco springs and individual HPT/MPI Mike isn’t shy about what they do differently he’s a open book who also until a few months ago would work on anyone’s gun that came through the shop. This gives them lots of data on what other manufacturers do right and not so right when it comes to assembling. Listen to some of the podcasts he’s been on, he lays it out what they do differently. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:44:31 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Like Geissele's engineers that made the Maritime Bolt Catch? You know the ones that break. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:47:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok Multiple posts in this thread about transparency and knowing what the buyer gets..... Apparently none of us know I mean, they aren't shy about telling customers who manufactures their branded parts. BA does make their house-brand barrels, Microbest BCG, sprinco springs, Vltor buffers, Zev receivers and Hodge/Zev rail with SOLGW-spec machining, some Schmid parts, some KNS, maybe some FCD depending. The parts can vary, but none of them are shit, and that speaks to what they do different than most: You can order one of their "base" rifles and pick your own furniture, trigger, other controls straight from them instead of having to swap things out as soon as it gets home. It's not for everybody, but it's a damn good model for people that don't want to tinker and piece everything together themselves. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:49:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's funny is Hodge doesn't act like he invented anything, he literally says he built a AR as if he was king for the day. SOLGW is the same way they looked at the AR and said how can we make this the most reliable AR around. The barrel is a moot point considering that if you shoot it out they will replace for free, hell if your rifle burns up in a house fire they will replace it for free, use it in a shooting? Yep you guessed it Mike and company is sending you one until you get yours back from LE. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:55:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a pretty amazing warranty. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's funny is Hodge doesn't act like he invented anything, he literally says he built a AR as if he was king for the day. SOLGW is the same way they looked at the AR and said how can we make this the most reliable AR around. The barrel is a moot point considering that if you shoot it out they will replace for free, hell if your rifle burns up in a house fire they will replace it for free, use it in a shooting? Yep you guessed it Mike and company is sending you one until you get yours back from LE. If your LE and use it, they will send u one with whatever you had on yours…aimpoint, surefire, mawl, ect… |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 8:00:13 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok Multiple posts in this thread about transparency and knowing what the buyer gets..... Apparently none of us know Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: SOLGW makes zero sense to me. It's all BA/Aero with Schmidt small parts. That's 75% of every single fucking assembler out there. That's because your assumptions are incorrect and you don't understand what they do differently from most other places. Ok Multiple posts in this thread about transparency and knowing what the buyer gets..... Apparently none of us know “I am not knowledgeable and have not researched something, yet still cast aspersions on the subject as if I did” Interesting coming from the guy who was simping for Chinese manufacturing just a few months ago. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 8:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a pretty amazing warranty. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's funny is Hodge doesn't act like he invented anything, he literally says he built a AR as if he was king for the day. SOLGW is the same way they looked at the AR and said how can we make this the most reliable AR around. The barrel is a moot point considering that if you shoot it out they will replace for free, hell if your rifle burns up in a house fire they will replace it for free, use it in a shooting? Yep you guessed it Mike and company is sending you one until you get yours back from LE. Here’s some parts off a gun destroyed in a house fire that they replaced from last time I visited. 
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Posted: 12/1/2021 8:12:22 PM EDT
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This feels like 2010 and a BCM thread
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Posted: 12/1/2021 8:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here’s some parts off a gun destroyed in a house fire that they replaced from last time I visited. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275845/7BEBF9EC-0E3E-47F2-995A-3D7D500D555B-2188453.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's funny is Hodge doesn't act like he invented anything, he literally says he built a AR as if he was king for the day. SOLGW is the same way they looked at the AR and said how can we make this the most reliable AR around. The barrel is a moot point considering that if you shoot it out they will replace for free, hell if your rifle burns up in a house fire they will replace it for free, use it in a shooting? Yep you guessed it Mike and company is sending you one until you get yours back from LE. Here’s some parts off a gun destroyed in a house fire that they replaced from last time I visited. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275845/7BEBF9EC-0E3E-47F2-995A-3D7D500D555B-2188453.jpg But but but the best warranty is the one you never have to use, or they have such a good warranty because they expect it to break. I’m sure FN, DD, Colt, LMT or KAC would give you a new one too. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 8:35:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This feels like 2010 and a BCM thread I remember when BCM carried DPMS and YHM parts.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 9:01:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SOLGW makes zero sense to me. It's all BA/Aero with Schmidt small parts. That's 75% of every single fucking assembler out there. Pretty much. Build an aero rifle with a Schmidt lpk, laser engrave some gay logo on everything then charge an extra $1000 |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 10:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do other companies offer scallywag shivermetimbers parts??? I didn’t think so. If they don’t, they should. |
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