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Posted: 8/25/2018 8:29:38 AM EDT
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Wait. I thought this was just some right wing, white nationalist conspiracy theory. We are truly becoming a banana republic. Eta: i own page 2. Finally....lol |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 8:31:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you insist on making up your own definitions, maybe. But in common parliamentary vernacular, the “government” of South Africa does NOT include Malema. He is part of the opposition. He has representation in the assembly, but a governing coalition was formed without his party. Are they saying he's lying or wrong? Because of not, well, he is an elected official ...... |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 8:32:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are the one doing the spinning. Malema’s party didn’t put this policy in place, they don’t even command 10% of the vote. Sure, they’re dangerous and one to watch - far Left parties can rise quickly to national prominence - just look what happened in Mexico. But attributing motives or desires of a fringe party, to the mainstream, is spin. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 8:34:17 AM EDT
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At least no one is playing Sun City.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 8:35:15 AM EDT
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I've met some good white Africans. Hard working and loyal. We need to allow mass immigration from South Africa (real African Americans). The US would benefit from these people. I also doubt most of them would vote liberal  ETA Give the head of each household a mule and 40 acres and sit back and watch those people become very successful in a short period of time. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 8:39:30 AM EDT
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You are the one doing the spinning. Malema’s party didn’t put this policy in place, they don’t even command 10% of the vote. Sure, they’re dangerous and one to watch - far Left parties can rise quickly to national prominence - just look what happened in Mexico. But attributing motives or desires of a fringe party, to the mainstream, is spin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh, so the left called Trump ‘racist’ for his comments, yet a black opposition leader says he’s exactly correct on what’s happening over there? How is the left gonna spin it now?  Malema’s party didn’t put this policy in place, they don’t even command 10% of the vote. Sure, they’re dangerous and one to watch - far Left parties can rise quickly to national prominence - just look what happened in Mexico. But attributing motives or desires of a fringe party, to the mainstream, is spin. PS the ANC are invaders who came after the Boers and the English. They can't claim colonization victimhood when they genocide the Khoisa. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 8:39:36 AM EDT
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Africa is such a pleasant place
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Posted: 8/25/2018 8:50:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re right, this thread has nothing to do with attributing a comment from a fringe political leader, whose party is holding less than 7% of seats and is part of the opposition to the ruling government, to the motives of the ruling government and their current land policies. Nope. Not at all. No spin here. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:00:25 AM EDT
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https://youtu.be/a-ARDJ3X-z0 <=== Follow Link
"I don't know what's going to happen in the future, I am saying to you we have not called for the killing of white people, at least for now."  It won't be long until we hear it here; or, at least a version of it, from the Antifa crowd. Already heard it from BLM. "White [people] if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a Black or Brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty. … White [people] if you can afford to downsize give up the home you own to a Black or Brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty. … White [people], re-budget your monthly so you can donate to Black funds for land purchasing." - Chanelle Helm 
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:13:03 AM EDT
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Have they taken the diamond mines yet???
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:16:40 AM EDT
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What in your opinion , is the ruling governments Land policy right now ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You’re right, this thread has nothing to do with attributing a comment from a fringe political leader, whose party is holding less than 7% of seats and is part of the opposition to the ruling government, to the motives of the ruling government and their current land policies. Nope. Not at all. No spin here. What I do know, is that conflating an opposition figure with the ruling government is disengenuous. But, maybe you’re OK with that. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:21:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are the one doing the spinning. Malema’s party didn’t put this policy in place, they don’t even command 10% of the vote. Sure, they’re dangerous and one to watch - far Left parties can rise quickly to national prominence - just look what happened in Mexico. But attributing motives or desires of a fringe party, to the mainstream, is spin. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:30:56 AM EDT
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Executive order.... allow white South Africans to immigrate to the US carte blanche. The vast majority are educated and have skills. Trump can then claim he's pro immigration. South Africa will then be free of the burdensome white folk and will be well on its way to become a great technological power in the region. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:40:18 AM EDT
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"White [people] if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a Black or Brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty. … White [people] if you can afford to downsize give up the home you own to a Black or Brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty. … White [people], re-budget your monthly so you can donate to Black funds for land purchasing." - Chanelle Helm if you cannot make economic shit happen NOW with all the tools available, you're not gonna make it happen if I give you my house, or tithe to you.  ,
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:43:29 AM EDT
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It’s a conspiracy theory even when they admit it’s true. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/214740/7EDB75B7-4AC1-415E-B8D0-9F3C904C2093-650427.JPG |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:44:20 AM EDT
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Oh, so the left called Trump ‘racist’ for his comments, yet a black opposition leader says he’s exactly correct on what’s happening over there? How is the left gonna spin it now? |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:47:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/25/2018 9:48:41 AM EDT
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https://www.dw.com/en/south-africas-anc-to-try-to-change-constitution-to-allow-seizing-land/a-44903160
This here article says it was the ANC adopting the EFF's proposal for the current state of affairs. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 10:04:30 AM EDT
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https://www.dw.com/en/south-africas-anc-to-try-to-change-constitution-to-allow-seizing-land/a-44903160 This here article says it was the ANC adopting the EFF's proposal for the current state of affairs. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/ramaphosa-says-no-to-nationalisation-of-land-20180822 |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 10:04:31 AM EDT
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JUJU was so extreme the ANC kicked him out a few years back.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 11:18:01 AM EDT
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Executive order.... allow white South Africans to immigrate to the US carte blanche. The vast majority are educated and have skills. Trump can then claim he's pro immigration. It's really a bad situation. Would what you are suggesting be the right thing to do. Absolutely. And Trump for the most part doesn't let what other people think stop him from doing something...right or wrong. But as others have pointed out...South Africans are a stubborn group that would almost rather face torture or death, than to give it all up and get nothing in return but personal safety. Standing and fighting is a noble and courageous thing to do. It may in fact cost them everything to do so. I seem to remember some folks in the history books that did that here. It's getting very close to watering the liberty tree time over there. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 11:57:18 AM EDT
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https://youtu.be/a-ARDJ3X-z0 <=== Follow Link "I don't know what's going to happen in the future, I am saying to you we have not called for the killing of white people, at least for now." https://cdn.primedia.co.za/primedia-broadcasting/image/upload/c_fill,h_289,q_70,w_463/zxz3bp5y2pbolk47fzwm It won't be long until we hear it here; or, at least a version of it, from the Antifa crowd. Already heard it from BLM. "White [people] if you don’t have any descendants, will your property to a Black or Brown family. Preferably one that lives in generational poverty. … White [people] if you can afford to downsize give up the home you own to a Black or Brown family. Preferably a family from generational poverty. … White [people], re-budget your monthly so you can donate to Black funds for land purchasing." - Chanelle Helm https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J4ME5j8azfw/maxresdefault.jpg |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:02:45 PM EDT
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I hope Trump accepts his challenge to do something about it.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:09:39 PM EDT
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I've met some good white Africans. Hard working and loyal. We need to allow mass immigration from South Africa (real African Americans). The US would benefit from these people. I also doubt most of them would vote liberal |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:16:32 PM EDT
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Let them starve!
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:24:45 PM EDT
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how long until the US sends "advisors" to help train the people raiding farms
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:46:13 PM EDT
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Eta: i own page 2. Finally....lol 
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Posted: 8/25/2018 12:55:59 PM EDT
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The cognitive dissonance the left displays on this issue is unreal.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 1:03:20 PM EDT
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A racist communist stated that they're being racist commies? Color me shocked!
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Posted: 8/25/2018 2:02:47 PM EDT
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EO to let the White farmers move here and then SA can build their Wakanda and all be kangz.
problem solved |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 2:13:29 PM EDT
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Wife went nuclear on a few of her friends on Facebook.
One is a recent immigrant (legal) from Russia. All ultra liberal. She schooled them good and challenged them: "If y'all feel so strongly about this, then let's make a deal. I'll donate an acre of my land to any verified Native American so we can correct the injustices of the past - but then you have to do the same." Talk about crickets after that...hahaha. ETA: Bitch pulled the "white privilege" card on my wife. Wooooo talk about a smack down. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 2:18:04 PM EDT
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I've met some good white Africans. Hard working and loyal. We need to allow mass immigration from South Africa (real African Americans). The US would benefit from these people. I also doubt most of them would vote liberal |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 2:28:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've said it before, but all the South African I've met are extremely liberal. Doesn't mean they all are. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 2:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope all white African immigrants check the “African American” box when they fill out...anything. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 2:37:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know a lot of them but the ones I know are conservative and very anti communist. 99% of South Africans you'll meet outside SA, are English or leftist cucks that left before 1994 due to "muh injustices". The majority of whites left in SA, are Afrikaans/ Boer, usually very conservative. A few of us saw the writing on the wall after 1994 and left - like me. I'm not as rabid right wing as some of my counterparts in SA, but I'm more conservative that most people in our small community. And yes, commie scum gets shot in face fast. My wife (true blooded scots-irish harpy from North Cackalacky) was a liberal little thing when we got married. It took only 3 months in SA to turn her into something that would make David Duke run for cover - unless you are talking about Israel. She'd leave me for one of them zionist scumbags in a heart beat 
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Posted: 8/25/2018 2:47:25 PM EDT
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If only we had some kind of US Military SPECIAL FORCES or clandestine intelligence service that could be working over there against the regime or freeing the oppressed.
But then I remembered we dont have those and interfering in other nations affairs is something we would never ever do. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 4:37:48 PM EDT
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@Bourbonator 99% of South Africans you'll meet outside SA, are English or leftist cucks that left before 1994 due to "muh injustices". The majority of whites left in SA, are Afrikaans/ Boer, usually very conservative. A few of us saw the writing on the wall after 1994 and left - like me. I'm not as rabid right wing as some of my counterparts in SA, but I'm more conservative that most people in our small community. And yes, commie scum gets shot in face fast. My wife (true blooded scots-irish harpy from North Cackalacky) was a liberal little thing when we got married. It took only 3 months in SA to turn her into something that would make David Duke run for cover - unless you are talking about Israel. She'd leave me for one of them zionist scumbags in a heart beat Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I don't know a lot of them but the ones I know are conservative and very anti communist. 99% of South Africans you'll meet outside SA, are English or leftist cucks that left before 1994 due to "muh injustices". The majority of whites left in SA, are Afrikaans/ Boer, usually very conservative. A few of us saw the writing on the wall after 1994 and left - like me. I'm not as rabid right wing as some of my counterparts in SA, but I'm more conservative that most people in our small community. And yes, commie scum gets shot in face fast. My wife (true blooded scots-irish harpy from North Cackalacky) was a liberal little thing when we got married. It took only 3 months in SA to turn her into something that would make David Duke run for cover - unless you are talking about Israel. She'd leave me for one of them zionist scumbags in a heart beat Mrs. Miami_JBT makes me look Leftist on some things. 
Apparently, my sweet Black Boricua from Carolina, PR is not someone that likes Leftists. Get her talking about certain issues and she will have the John Birch Society spit their coffee and Barry Goldwater rise from the grave in shock and say that is too right wing.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 4:40:50 PM EDT
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Wait. I thought this was just some right wing, white nationalist conspiracy theory. 
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Posted: 8/25/2018 4:42:32 PM EDT
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Executive order.... allow white South Africans to immigrate to the US carte blanche. The vast majority are educated and have skills. Trump can then claim he's pro immigration. South Africa will then be free of the burdensome white folk and will be well on its way to become a great technological power in the region. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 4:43:06 PM EDT
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Fine. Pass a law that brings the white farmers here and prohibits future aid to SA, permanently.
Let them live with their decisions. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 4:44:39 PM EDT
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Commies are gonna commie. But it’s still nonsense to attribute his motives to any other political group, especially the governing party. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: You are the one doing the spinning. Malema’s party didn’t put this policy in place, they don’t even command 10% of the vote. Sure, they’re dangerous and one to watch - far Left parties can rise quickly to national prominence - just look what happened in Mexico. But attributing motives or desires of a fringe party, to the mainstream, is spin. Sure 10% of the vote...almost all of the young blacks. Yuou know, the same demographic that nearly burned SA to the ground several times over the last 50 years? The ANC wouldn't have touched the land issue if it wasn't for Malema's pressure. But it’s still nonsense to attribute his motives to any other political group, especially the governing party. This is an interesting line to take, considering the whole land appropriation idea came directly from his party. And was instituted amidst a gigantic scandal by the ruling party and its purpose is to keep him out of power by beating him to the punch and weakening his base. But I’m sure you knew that already. ETA: clarification I didn’t mean he and his party personally came up with the idea. I meant he was the one pushing it hardest and getting peeps riled up |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 4:44:45 PM EDT
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You do realize that most of them voted for this. Most of them support socialist policies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Executive order.... allow white South Africans to immigrate to the US carte blanche. The vast majority are educated and have skills. Trump can then claim he's pro immigration. South Africa will then be free of the burdensome white folk and will be well on its way to become a great technological power in the region. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 4:48:38 PM EDT
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Oh, so the left called Trump ‘racist’ for his comments, yet a black opposition leader says he’s exactly correct on what’s happening over there? How is the left gonna spin it now? Push their L I E hard and often until it breaks through and becomes the truth. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 5:03:55 PM EDT
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Might be time to go be men among men again. But in SA this go around.
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Posted: 8/25/2018 5:04:10 PM EDT
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I hope all white African immigrants check the “African American” box when they fill out...anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've met some good white Africans. Hard working and loyal. We need to allow mass immigration from South Africa (real African Americans). The US would benefit from these people. I also doubt most of them would vote liberal |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 5:04:11 PM EDT
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@boerseun, I know what you mean. Mrs. Miami_JBT makes me look Leftist on some things.
https://i.imgur.com/JCp1eI1.jpg Apparently, my sweet Black Boricua from Carolina, PR is not someone that likes Leftists. Get her talking about certain issues and she will have the John Birch Society spit their coffee and Barry Goldwater rise from the grave in shock and say that is too right wing. 
I'm sure your posts here trigger some - thinking that anyone that has your world views, HAS to be racist, then sees a picture of your wife - and their tiny brains explode! It's not about race, people...it's culture and politics. Women can be quite violent, fierce and right wing - if given the insight and experience. Mine only had to see a few scars from encounters with the "previously disadvantaged class" of folks in SA to realize what's going on... |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 5:05:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do realize that most of them voted for this. Most of them support socialist policies. VERY few voted for the ANC or IFP. Most voted DA, HNP, NP or VF (all predominantly white with free markets as their platform). |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 5:07:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm.... This is an interesting line to take, considering the whole land appropriation idea came directly from his party. And was instituted amidst a gigantic scandal by the ruling party and its purpose is to keep him out of power by beating him to the punch and weakening his base. |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 5:07:48 PM EDT
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You are the one doing the spinning. Malema’s party didn’t put this policy in place, they don’t even command 10% of the vote. Sure, they’re dangerous and one to watch - far Left parties can rise quickly to national prominence - just look what happened in Mexico. But attributing motives or desires of a fringe party, to the mainstream, is spin. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh, so the left called Trump ‘racist’ for his comments, yet a black opposition leader says he’s exactly correct on what’s happening over there? How is the left gonna spin it now? Malema’s party didn’t put this policy in place, they don’t even command 10% of the vote. Sure, they’re dangerous and one to watch - far Left parties can rise quickly to national prominence - just look what happened in Mexico. But attributing motives or desires of a fringe party, to the mainstream, is spin. From the ANC's own website: "Immediately use Section 25 of the Constitution to press ahead with expropriation of land in order to test the argument that the constitution does permit expropriation without compensation in certain circumstances." If you think that farm raids are just fiction you should look into the SA Commando System that was disbanded in 2008. It was in place even after apartheid came to an end and the ANC was in power for a reason. It was a fast reaction force to protect rural communities and farms from raids. Who do you they are protecting farms from? Aliens? |
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Posted: 8/25/2018 5:08:26 PM EDT
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A good chunk of them weren't voting age in 1992 and 1994. |
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