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Posted: 9/28/2016 8:22:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/28/2016 8:55:40 PM EDT
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Edit per OP request
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Posted: 9/28/2016 9:01:45 PM EDT
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PS - Ronald Reagan was quoting a poem by a RAF pilot who fought in the Battle of Britain. He got shot down.
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Posted: 9/28/2016 9:02:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Check out this bad ass picture of our flag and patches that egress81 sent us.  https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7547/29852236592_655e4cb62d_b.jpg |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 9:04:09 PM EDT
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Check out this bad ass picture of our flag and patches that egress81 sent us.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7547/29852236592_655e4cb62d_b.jpg Is that on the WB? |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 9:08:15 PM EDT
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Check out this bad ass picture of our flag and patches that egress81 sent us.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7547/29852236592_655e4cb62d_b.jpg Is that on the WB? 
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Posted: 9/28/2016 9:13:42 PM EDT
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Check out this bad ass picture of our flag and patches that egress81 sent us.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7547/29852236592_655e4cb62d_b.jpg Is that on the WB?  
There were a good number of arfcommers on the 927 rebuild in CO. |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 9:35:43 PM EDT
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PS - Ronald Reagan was quoting a poem by a RAF pilot who fought in the Battle of Britain. He got shot down. Someone else mentioned that too. We will try to give credit to both. 
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Posted: 9/28/2016 9:40:55 PM EDT
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That's awesome!
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Posted: 9/28/2016 9:47:01 PM EDT
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]I would hand her a grinder and at least save the tubes. Worn out wheels and grinding dust have a way of educating new welders. She's going to be so pissed that she has to redo them...... |
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Posted: 9/28/2016 10:54:12 PM EDT
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In before those brackets are found welded to the rear end of guns' pickup....
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Posted: 9/28/2016 10:54:59 PM EDT
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That welding is fucking terrible.
It's been 35 years since I last welded - and I only had a very brief introduction to welding, and only did it a few time - and even I could have done a better job than that today, if you handed me a welder. Tell her that an old grouchy fart on the internet thinks she sucks.
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Posted: 9/28/2016 11:57:03 PM EDT
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She's going to be so pissed that she has to redo them...... I'll actually be surprised if she doesn't try to quit. We will see. I'm going to have at least a table between us when I talk to her. I'd dont want to get charged and beaten by an angry teenager.
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]I would hand her a grinder and at least save the tubes. Worn out wheels and grinding dust have a way of educating new welders. She's going to be so pissed that she has to redo them...... I'll actually be surprised if she doesn't try to quit. We will see. I'm going to have at least a table between us when I talk to her. I'd dont want to get charged and beaten by an angry teenager.
This is actually a learning experience for her. It is much better for her to learn this in school rather than on the job. You might want to explain to her (later) that many employers have the "attention to detail" as part of the job description. It was her lack of attention to detail that required her to re-do these. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 5:18:58 AM EDT
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That welding is fucking terrible. It's been 35 years since I last welded - and I only had a very brief introduction to welding, and only did it a few time - and even I could have done a better job than that today, if you handed me a welder. Tell her that an old grouchy fart on the internet thinks she sucks.
It's been a while since you've seen (today's) high school students weld. The welds could've been a lot worse. Guns, starting over would be faster. Personally, I don't see five weeks of welding there--but I don't know your student's access/time to machines, either. Grinding those welds out will take longer than it took to weld it... Is she more visually oriented? Can another student "mock up" (with wood) the braces that need to be built? ...of course, that sort of takes the "education" part out of fabrication from plans... |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 7:35:40 AM EDT
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It's been a while since you've seen (today's) high school students weld. The welds could've been a lot worse. Guns, starting over would be faster. Personally, I don't see five weeks of welding there--but I don't know your student's access/time to machines, either. Grinding those welds out will take longer than it took to weld it... Is she more visually oriented? Can another student "mock up" (with wood) the braces that need to be built? ...of course, that sort of takes the "education" part out of fabrication from plans... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That welding is fucking terrible. It's been 35 years since I last welded - and I only had a very brief introduction to welding, and only did it a few time - and even I could have done a better job than that today, if you handed me a welder. Tell her that an old grouchy fart on the internet thinks she sucks.
It's been a while since you've seen (today's) high school students weld. The welds could've been a lot worse. Guns, starting over would be faster. Personally, I don't see five weeks of welding there--but I don't know your student's access/time to machines, either. Grinding those welds out will take longer than it took to weld it... Is she more visually oriented? Can another student "mock up" (with wood) the braces that need to be built? ...of course, that sort of takes the "education" part out of fabrication from plans... I agree starting over is the fastest way. I tried explaining what future employers will expect; some kids, more than you think, just roll their eyes. I definitely understand how seeing something, makes it easier for some. I'm one of those visual learners. Show me a picture and I get what you are saying.
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Posted: 9/29/2016 11:40:41 AM EDT
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Update 9/29
Welding fix is going much better than I thought. I showed these to another students this morning, and he was sure he could fix them......even without a cutting wheel, which apparently we don't have any in the welding shop. 
He told me he could get them apart with a cutting torch. Probably ugly if done that way, but will work. I told him to give it a shot. He's almost 1.5hrs in to it this morning, and he's almost done. Matching 4 degree angles and 6 degree angles. He's tacked each piece, then checked for fit before welding it all up. We should have wing spar mounts up by this afternoon.  For his efforts this morning, he's getting some make up points for days he's been gone, and some points added to a digital sketch grade.
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Posted: 9/29/2016 12:08:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/29/2016 12:27:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Update 9/29
He's almost 1.5hrs in to it this morning, and he's almost done. Matching 4 degree angles and 6 degree angles. He's tacked each piece, then checked for fit before welding it all up. We should have wing spar mounts up by this afternoon. For his efforts this morning, he's getting some make up points for days he's been gone, and some points added to a digital sketch grade.
The other student may get a few hurt feelings over this, but in the real world, you produce quality work or you get fired. https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7570/29892551932_16a1d43b2b_b.jpg Hope he's got some arm protection if he's arc welding. UV is not kind to white people. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 12:33:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See what happens when you take a woman out of the kitchen to try and do a mans job
I kid I kid  I'd like to introduce you to a certain Army Intelligence officer - she finished her 10 mile ruck march in OCS w/ blood up to the top of both boots, w/ one of her Achilles tendons torn and needing surgery before she started. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 1:05:48 PM EDT
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Hope he's got some arm protection if he's arc welding. UV is not kind to white people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's almost 1.5hrs in to it this morning, and he's almost done. Matching 4 degree angles and 6 degree angles. He's tacked each piece, then checked for fit before welding it all up. We should have wing spar mounts up by this afternoon. For his efforts this morning, he's getting some make up points for days he's been gone, and some points added to a digital sketch grade.
The other student may get a few hurt feelings over this, but in the real world, you produce quality work or you get fired. https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7570/29892551932_16a1d43b2b_b.jpg Hope he's got some arm protection if he's arc welding. UV is not kind to white people. He's in the Art room in this photo. He took his welding jacket and gloves off before coming down. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 1:59:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hope he's got some arm protection if he's arc welding. UV is not kind to white people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Update 9/29 He's almost 1.5hrs in to it this morning, and he's almost done. Matching 4 degree angles and 6 degree angles. He's tacked each piece, then checked for fit before welding it all up. We should have wing spar mounts up by this afternoon. For his efforts this morning, he's getting some make up points for days he's been gone, and some points added to a digital sketch grade. The other student may get a few hurt feelings over this, but in the real world, you produce quality work or you get fired. https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7570/29892551932_16a1d43b2b_b.jpg Hope he's got some arm protection if he's arc welding. UV is not kind to white people. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 2:26:36 PM EDT
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I'd like to introduce you to a certain Army Intelligence officer - she finished her 10 mile ruck march in OCS w/ blood up to the top of both boots, w/ one of her Achilles tendons torn and needing surgery before she started. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kid I kid I'd like to introduce you to a certain Army Intelligence officer - she finished her 10 mile ruck march in OCS w/ blood up to the top of both boots, w/ one of her Achilles tendons torn and needing surgery before she started. Sure. Is she pretty? |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 2:59:49 PM EDT
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Spoke with the other student. She was pretty understanding as to what went wrong and how to avoid mishaps like this in the future. She even discussed the fixes with the student who is now correcting the work.
Went better than expected. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 3:03:55 PM EDT
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Spoke with the other student. She was pretty understanding as to what she did wrong and how to avoid mishaps like this in the future. She even discussed the fixes with the student who is now correcting the work. Went better than expected. Excellent. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 7:56:41 PM EDT
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Update 9/29
The bear is in the freezer. Looks like it might make a bear skin rug. All the hanging brackets are in place, and we've got the fuselage upright again, but we did not get the wing mounts on there yet. 
More work on the top of the cockpit 
To get the robotics people more info, we put the hinges on the doors today. We had to shave one edge as it was twisted enough to hang up. Wasn't too big of deal. 
The engine cowlings are ready to get mounted up to the fuselage, but we want them to be removeable. 
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Posted: 9/29/2016 8:10:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spoke with the other student. She was pretty understanding as to what went wrong and how to avoid mishaps like this in the future. She even discussed the fixes with the student who is now correcting the work. Went better than expected. |
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Posted: 9/29/2016 9:18:14 PM EDT
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Spoke with the other student. She was pretty understanding as to what went wrong and how to avoid mishaps like this in the future. She even discussed the fixes with the student who is now correcting the work. Went better than expected. Agreed. Accepting criticism of one's work with a positive attitude is an ability that many adults never master. Nice! |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 12:15:32 AM EDT
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Update 9/29 The bear is in the freezer. Looks like it might make a bear skin rug. All the hanging brackets are in place, and we've got the fuselage upright again, but we did not get the wing mounts on there yet. https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5611/29385898944_6c04bbb221_b.jpg More work on the top of the cockpit https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5549/29385905554_14c345ca69_b.jpg To get the robotics people more info, we put the hinges on the doors today. We had to shave one edge as it was twisted enough to hang up. Wasn't too big of deal. https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5110/29719561850_4b0a5e0ab5_b.jpg The engine cowlings are ready to get mounted up to the fuselage, but we want them to be removeable. https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8398/29385899164_644f4d9a19_b.jpg No lock washers on the bolts, guns? ETA: First pic. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 12:19:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2016 12:28:41 AM EDT
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No lock washers on the bolts, guns? ETA: First pic. I suppose it couldn't hurt, but even the custodian was happy with the way we set it up. Even if they came loose, it isn't going anywhere. The two nuts tightened down on each other are pretty solid.
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Posted: 9/30/2016 12:46:31 AM EDT
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I suppose it couldn't hurt, but even the custodian was happy with the way we set it up. Even if they came loose, it isn't going anywhere. The two nuts tightened down on each other are pretty solid.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No lock washers on the bolts, guns? ETA: First pic. I suppose it couldn't hurt, but even the custodian was happy with the way we set it up. Even if they came loose, it isn't going anywhere. The two nuts tightened down on each other are pretty solid.I'm no engineer and by no means am I being disrespectful, but if I was helping with the project I would install lock washers on all of the straight nut and bolt connections along with flat washers. JMO.
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Posted: 9/30/2016 12:58:38 AM EDT
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Great project and looking good. Wished I had teachers like you back in my day.
You sir are a asset. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 6:29:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great project and looking good. Wished I had teachers like you back in my day. You sir are a asset. I have the same thought every time I F5 one of his epic threads. I'm gonna have to move to Wyoming when my kids get to be high school age! |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 9:27:03 AM EDT
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I have the same thought every time I F5 one of his epic threads. I'm gonna have to move to Wyoming when my kids get to be high school age! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You sir are a asset. I have the same thought every time I F5 one of his epic threads. I'm gonna have to move to Wyoming when my kids get to be high school age! Maybe we could crowdfund a boarding house in his district for the Wayward Children of ARFCOMmers. XCRMonger could be the house matron.
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Posted: 9/30/2016 9:37:35 AM EDT
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See what happens when you take a woman out of the kitchen to try and do a mans job
I kid I kid I know this is GD and all, but Guns has said that there "Spies" from his class that know about this thread. Might want to be careful of some of the comments that could make Guns take the thread down. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 10:48:18 AM EDT
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Update 9/28 One of my Art/welding students got one of our hangers finished and they look good. We even got it mounted on the shuttle this afternoon. We should have the other two on there tomorrow. This will allow us to get the shuttle flipped back over and start on he hinges of the cargo doors. We need to get them functional so the robotics can narrow down what they need to open and close them. https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8631/29366703304_28ccfce971_b.jpg that 2x4 is the main beam right? your hangar being offset to one side is going to make your shuttle hang canted to one side slightly if thats your goal then leave it if not easy fix would be to put the rebar in a vise and bend the hanger over until the "loop" is centered with your main beam no comment on the 5 weeks for a 30 minute job but mistakes are how we learn.... student wasn't the first or last to get in a hurry and weld something up without double checking placement |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 11:21:39 AM EDT
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Update 9/30
Temporary display of the fantastic package we got from egress81
We had a hard time displaying the American flag. We started with it folded properly, but it just looked too small in the display. I know some will not be happy with the way we displayed it, and I understand that. We had a few different people from the office look at it and they all approved of how we have it displayed. We think it's tasteful. I hope GD will approve. The girls worked pretty hard this morning trying to get the best look of the items. They will probably trim the pictures and make some slight moves to compensate for the display frame when we get a little more time. The latest Haiku is also displayed...
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Posted: 9/30/2016 12:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'm not wild about the fonts either. Good idea on finding old school NASA fonts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you're killing the moon on the t-shirt, send Papyrus with it should rock an old school rounded NASA font.Yeah, I'm not wild about the fonts either. Good idea on finding old school NASA fonts. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 12:14:13 PM EDT
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Wiki says helvecta is the font on the shuttle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you're killing the moon on the t-shirt, send Papyrus with it should rock an old school rounded NASA font.Yeah, I'm not wild about the fonts either. Good idea on finding old school NASA fonts. Thank you! She found the "NASA" font online yesterday and I think she was able to download it on her laptop, but if that didn't work, I'll let her know about helvecta. She is working on the first of three final designs. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 12:27:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Update 9/30 ... I know some will not be happy with the way we displayed it, and I understand that... Tasteful, proper orientation, artfully displayed given the space constraints. Emulates a flapping flag. Bonus points for not being used as a doormat or running shorts. No foul. Carry on. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 1:06:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Update 9/30 Temporary display of the fantastic package we got from egress81 We had a hard time displaying the American flag. We started with it folded properly, but it just looked too small in the display. I know some will not be happy with the way we displayed it, and I understand that. We had a few different people from the office look at it and they all approved of how we have it displayed. We think it's tasteful. I hope GD will approve. The girls worked pretty hard this morning trying to get the best look of the items. They will probably trim the pictures and make some slight moves to compensate for the display frame when we get a little more time. The latest Haiku is also displayed... https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5549/30025120805_22d545e761_b.jpg |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 1:41:16 PM EDT
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Fun fact: The ceramics that the Shuttle tiles are made from have as a raw material a mineral known as Kyanite, likely mined right here in the heart of Virginia by the Kyanite Mining Corporation.
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Posted: 9/30/2016 4:55:33 PM EDT
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Big update on the way.......
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Posted: 9/30/2016 5:24:11 PM EDT
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Wing spar mounts going on!
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Posted: 9/30/2016 6:29:25 PM EDT
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Update 9/30 Temporary display of the fantastic package we got from egress81
We had a hard time displaying the American flag. We started with it folded properly, but it just looked too small in the display. I know some will not be happy with the way we displayed it, and I understand that. We had a few different people from the office look at it and they all approved of how we have it displayed. We think it's tasteful. I hope GD will approve. The girls worked pretty hard this morning trying to get the best look of the items. They will probably trim the pictures and make some slight moves to compensate for the display frame when we get a little more time. The latest Haiku is also displayed...
https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5549/30025120805_22d545e761_b.jpg Hell yeah that looks great! |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 6:41:08 PM EDT
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Big UPDATE. 9/30.2
We got the remainder of the rabbit cage done today!!! 
But wait, there's more.......
The wings...... yeah, we finally got to find out if the mounts would hold them correctly and how it would complete the shape. 
The first spar mounts took a couple of tries to get what we think will be the correct angle. Then matching up the second was much easier. When we measured out the tips of the wings off of the floor, they were both 44"......exactly.
Kids were really excited to see it coming together for the first time. Ok, so was i. Doors are now functional with stops at the close.
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Posted: 9/30/2016 7:44:36 PM EDT
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that 2x4 is the main beam right? your hangar being offset to one side is going to make your shuttle hang canted to one side slightly if thats your goal then leave it if not easy fix would be to put the rebar in a vise and bend the hanger over until the "loop" is centered with your main beam no comment on the 5 weeks for a 30 minute job but mistakes are how we learn.... student wasn't the first or last to get in a hurry and weld something up without double checking placement Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Update 9/28 One of my Art/welding students got one of our hangers finished and they look good. We even got it mounted on the shuttle this afternoon. We should have the other two on there tomorrow. This will allow us to get the shuttle flipped back over and start on he hinges of the cargo doors. We need to get them functional so the robotics can narrow down what they need to open and close them. https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8631/29366703304_28ccfce971_b.jpg that 2x4 is the main beam right? your hangar being offset to one side is going to make your shuttle hang canted to one side slightly if thats your goal then leave it if not easy fix would be to put the rebar in a vise and bend the hanger over until the "loop" is centered with your main beam no comment on the 5 weeks for a 30 minute job but mistakes are how we learn.... student wasn't the first or last to get in a hurry and weld something up without double checking placement Yes, we were hoping for a slight cant. We actually had the first one on the wrong side, making it cant toward the wall, instead of the hallway and had to switch it around. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 7:49:54 PM EDT
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More from today.
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Posted: 9/30/2016 7:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no engineer and by no means am I being disrespectful, but if I was helping with the project I would install lock washers on all of the straight nut and bolt connections along with flat washers. JMO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:quote] No lock washers on the bolts, guns? ETA: First pic. I suppose it couldn't hurt, but even the custodian was happy with the way we set it up. Even if they came loose, it isn't going anywhere. The two nuts tightened down on each other are pretty solid.I'm no engineer and by no means am I being disrespectful, but if I was helping with the project I would install lock washers on all of the straight nut and bolt connections along with flat washers. JMO. |
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Posted: 9/30/2016 7:56:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm good with that display. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Update 9/30 Temporary display of the fantastic package we got from egress81 We had a hard time displaying the American flag. We started with it folded properly, but it just looked too small in the display. I know some will not be happy with the way we displayed it, and I understand that. We had a few different people from the office look at it and they all approved of how we have it displayed. We think it's tasteful. I hope GD will approve. The girls worked pretty hard this morning trying to get the best look of the items. They will probably trim the pictures and make some slight moves to compensate for the display frame when we get a little more time. The latest Haiku is also displayed... https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5549/30025120805_22d545e761_b.jpg |
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