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4/21/2017 3:59:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Some awesome pieces from other schools.

My wife said I had to share this with arfcom.

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4/21/2017 4:10:03 PM EDT
[#2]
congrats
4/21/2017 6:28:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Congratulations   got my patch, hope to mail payment tomorrow or Monday,  thanks ya'll
4/21/2017 6:59:22 PM EDT
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Well the bag of ribbons was as pretty full tonight when I left.  Unfortunately,  I don't think our fold out for the shuttle had a ribbon.  

It's a little hard to judge.  Judges can look at it as strictly a fold out, or as the project itself I guess.  


Our bear rug also didn't have a ribbon.   That was disappointing as well.  But, artistically,  a rug is not that impressive I guess.

I'll get some photos of the show tomorrow.  It was late and we are still waiting to feed kids tonight at 8pm.  
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I saw your later post that the Space Shuttle did end up getting a ribbon.  Perhaps next project, you should have an image blown up to wall painting size, so that people can get a good feel for the scale of the project.
4/21/2017 7:02:04 PM EDT
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I saw your later post that the Space Shuttle did end up getting a ribbon.  Perhaps next project, you should have an image blown up to wall painting size, so that people can get a good feel for the scale of the project.
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That's a good idea.
4/21/2017 7:02:18 PM EDT
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Maybe next year he should do a tank.  Robotics can articulate the turret and automotive shop can make it move.  Drive that into the hall and dare the judges not to put a blue ribbon on it.  

I would suggest the M3 Lee:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/M3grantmini.jpg
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OR.....

How to build a 2/5 th scale SHERMAN Tank. part 1
4/22/2017 10:49:51 AM EDT
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Update 4/22

I was informed this morning by the Vice President of Wyoming Secondary Art Educators  that the colleges and some of the other WSAE Art teachers from around the state of Wyoming are not happy with the taxidermy pieces we bring to the show.

Apparently they feel it does not meet the state standards for Art.  In their minds  it is not art.  

This will be the probably be the last Symposium  Powell High School attends for a while.

I was not told we couldn't come, just that taxidermy might be charged more to show, or not allowed.  They also don't want woodworking or welding projects.
4/22/2017 11:44:23 AM EDT
[#8]
Geez
Hope they never set foot into any college art department.
They're in for a shocking, eye-opening experience.
4/22/2017 12:27:24 PM EDT
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I was informed this morning by the Vice President of Wyoming Secondary Art Educators  that the colleges and some of the other WSAE Art teachers from around the state of Wyoming are not happy with the taxidermy pieces we bring to the show.

Apparently they feel it does not meet the state standards for Art.  In their minds  it is not art.  

This will be the probably be the last Symposium  Powell High School attends for a while.

I was not told we couldn't come, just that taxidermy might be charged more to show, or not allowed.  They also don't want woodworking or welding projects.
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Sore losers is what they are.  You should bring nothing but taxidermy next year, and when you get it set up, the animals should spell out "Sore losers."
4/22/2017 12:37:49 PM EDT
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Update 4/22

I was informed this morning by the Vice President of Wyoming Secondary Art Educators  that the colleges and some of the other WSAE Art teachers from around the state of Wyoming are not happy with the taxidermy pieces we bring to the show.

Apparently they feel it does not meet the state standards for Art.  In their minds  it is not art.  

This will be the probably be the last Symposium  Powell High School attends for a while.

I was not told we couldn't come, just that taxidermy might be charged more to show, or not allowed.  They also don't want woodworking or welding projects.
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WTF, in WY?   Do they call the Shuttle "Woodworking"?
4/22/2017 12:42:12 PM EDT
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Sore losers is what they are.  You should bring nothing but taxidermy next year, and when you get it set up, the animals should spell out "Sore losers."
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I just pictured a troupe of squirrels, dressed like Cirque du Soliel performers, posed like the letters "S O R E L O S E R S"


It might be time to go to bed
4/22/2017 12:42:20 PM EDT
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What the heck, some jerk out flung his own feces on a canvas and that was embraced as art! How is not catpuring nature for enternity art.... Liberalism is a disease.
4/22/2017 1:17:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Or just build a full size tank, crew it, and name it Sore Losers.  It can drive through the expo hall as "performance art", crushing lesser pieces of art in its wake.  
4/22/2017 1:35:32 PM EDT
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What the heck, some jerk out flung his own feces on a canvas and that was embraced as art! How is not catpuring nature for enternity art.... Liberalism is a disease.
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Anything submerged in piss is art
4/22/2017 1:46:11 PM EDT
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The sweet irony of this award is we've won this two years in a row......last year's being our TAXIDERMY PIECE bear eating a whitetail deer.  
4/22/2017 1:46:56 PM EDT
[#16]
Yeah, because woodworking isn't art.



That's some real bullshit. Definitely sounds like a bunch of sore losers trying to eliminate the competition.
4/22/2017 2:20:25 PM EDT
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Update 4/22

I was informed this morning by the Vice President of Wyoming Secondary Art Educators  that the colleges and some of the other WSAE Art teachers from around the state of Wyoming are not happy with the taxidermy pieces we bring to the show.

Apparently they feel it does not meet the state standards for Art.  In their minds  it is not art.  

This will be the probably be the last Symposium  Powell High School attends for a while.

I was not told we couldn't come, just that taxidermy might be charged more to show, or not allowed.  They also don't want woodworking or welding projects.
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Sorry to hear that.  I would think taxidermy, in Wyoming of all places, would be considered.  The fact they would charge you more to enter says they won't allow it in the future. And even if you sent stuff in, it would lose.

We also have a Powell High Panthers here, funny coincidence.  

I haven't kept up with this thread, and it may have been said before, but what you're doing is brining together different groups of kids with different interests (art, science, mechanical engineering, etc.) and showing how they can work together to achieve something great.  That's commendable, in my book.
4/22/2017 2:22:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, because woodworking isn't art.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/ODMzWDYwNQ==/z/lzUAAOSwk5FUyDj4/$_35.JPG?set_id=2

That's some real bullshit. Definitely sounds like a bunch of sore losers trying to eliminate the competition.
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How on God's Green Earth could woodworking not be considered art?  Or does this contest have specifics when it comes to "art"?

Precisely why I hate art contests of all types.  It's so subjective, hardly anyone who deserves to win actually does.
4/22/2017 3:23:51 PM EDT
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Update 4/22

I was informed this morning by the Vice President of Wyoming Secondary Art Educators  that the colleges and some of the other WSAE Art teachers from around the state of Wyoming are not happy with the taxidermy pieces we bring to the show.

Apparently they feel it does not meet the state standards for Art.  In their minds  it is not art.  

This will be the probably be the last Symposium  Powell High School attends for a while.

I was not told we couldn't come, just that taxidermy might be charged more to show, or not allowed.  They also don't want woodworking or welding projects.
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What a bunch of knobs.
4/22/2017 4:51:08 PM EDT
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tell those narcissistic PC SJW libtards to FOAD.


fucking alinsky-ites


where do they get off thinking that everything they think and do is what's "right"?
4/22/2017 5:41:59 PM EDT
[#21]
Like the others said, I believe they are cutting their competition. I presume they didn't
provide you with those new standards.
4/22/2017 6:47:31 PM EDT
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Update 4/22

I was informed this morning by the Vice President of Wyoming Secondary Art Educators  that the colleges and some of the other WSAE Art teachers from around the state of Wyoming are not happy with the taxidermy pieces we bring to the show.

Apparently they feel it does not meet the state standards for Art.  In their minds  it is not art.  

This will be the probably be the last Symposium  Powell High School attends for a while.

I was not told we couldn't come, just that taxidermy might be charged more to show, or not allowed.  They also don't want woodworking or welding projects.
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Need to remind them that

"He who works with his hands is a laborer.
He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman.
He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist."
4/22/2017 6:50:44 PM EDT
[#23]
Just tell them the display identifies as an oil painting.
4/22/2017 7:20:13 PM EDT
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This right here!
4/22/2017 8:12:26 PM EDT
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I'd venture to say if they asked the attendees, the response would be different.
But university's gotta university. (sad face)

Congratulations, students and teacher. Illegtimi non corabundom!
4/22/2017 8:32:06 PM EDT
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That's a real shame. With all the bitching and moaning about .gov cutting funds for the arts, they're hamstringing themselves and being exclusive and telling students "your style of creativity isn't valid" at the same time. If they allowed all styles of art, they could show the vast amount of creativity and ability that's on tap.
4/22/2017 9:20:31 PM EDT
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Tell them that barring any codified changes to the rules, presented in writing before submission next year, you will continue to submit similar works. Then remind them how many of your submissions win their categories or receive ribbons.
4/22/2017 10:05:41 PM EDT
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Tell them that barring any codified changes to the rules, presented in writing before submission next year, you will continue to submit similar works. Then remind them how many of your submissions win their categories or receive ribbons.
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That is the underlying issue. Envy rears its ugly head. Libs are awash with envy.
4/22/2017 10:34:06 PM EDT
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Bring the taxidermy next year, but just the ass end of every animal. Skunks with tails raised. Dogs peeing on rule books. You get the general idea. 
4/22/2017 11:03:54 PM EDT
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That is the underlying issue. Envy rears its ugly head. Libs are awash with envy.
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Tell them that barring any codified changes to the rules, presented in writing before submission next year, you will continue to submit similar works. Then remind them how many of your submissions win their categories or receive ribbons.
That is the underlying issue. Envy rears its ugly head. Libs are awash with envy.
What makes it soooooooooooooooo ironic is this won the 3D Student Choice award last year.  

Two years in a row now we've won that award.  And..,it chosen by students.....not teachers.  
Black bear eating a whitetail



They have a website with a contact page. Wyoming Secondary Art Educators Association.
4/22/2017 11:22:23 PM EDT
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One of my student also was awarded with a Wyoming First Lady's award, and their sculpture will be displayed in the governor's residence for the next year.  

Carol Mead is a first class gal.  She also spent several minutes talking to one of my other students who wanted to meet her.

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4/22/2017 11:35:49 PM EDT
[#32]
Last night's dinner at Sanford's in East Casper.  

This is where we were inspired to start the projects like the Space Shuttle.  

Even last night it inspired the kids for new ideas for next year.  
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4/22/2017 11:39:37 PM EDT
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Last night's dinner at Sanford's in East Casper.  

This is where we were inspired to start the projects like the Space Shuttle.  

Even last night it inspired the kids for new ideas for next year.  
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My kids love that place.  

Hardest games of "I spy with my little eye" ever.
4/22/2017 11:43:13 PM EDT
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My kids love that place.  

Hardest games of "I spy with my little eye" ever.
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Excellent food, and you NEVER leave hungry.  
4/22/2017 11:48:00 PM EDT
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No kidding.

Sorry I missed you guys this year, especially in light of the recent asshattery.  Just couldn't get an hour to make it up the hill.

We need to have a WY shoot this summer.
4/22/2017 11:52:19 PM EDT
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The "Not real Art"  was very much appreciated by the owner of the black bear cape we salvaged into a rug for him.  We dropped this off today on the way home.  We pulled up in front of his house,  bus, suburban and trailer.  
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A new cordless 20 volt Dewalt drill is in our future.  
4/23/2017 12:00:15 AM EDT
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Went to South Dakota and Wyoming on our honeymoon. Wanted to see Rushmore and Devils Tower, stayed in Spearfish on recommendation from a then-coworker of my wife's.  Our hotel room was next to the manager of the hotel we stayed at, and we ate at Sanford's based on their recommendation.


Amazing service, we didn't know it at the time, but we walked in the door 2 minutes before closing. Waitress took our order with no complaint, we got  our food and asked their hours once we noticed people clearing out-waitress said "Oh, we closed 20 minutes ago, but don't worry about it". Best meal of the trip, and we ate after closing. left a tip equal to the check in appreciation and made it a point to go in and eat again earlier a couple nights later. Ended up with the same waitress and same service.
4/23/2017 12:21:41 AM EDT
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Our taxidermy makes three different appearances in this coverage.

http://k2tv.com/news.php?id=7884
4/23/2017 12:43:43 AM EDT
[#39]
Back on topic....

TopMen was interviewed Friday, so it looks like next week the article in the paper will be out.



We also had a slight hiccup in the program Friday.  It didn't close once during the afternoon.  After a diagnosis,  it was probably similar to what happened before.    The code will get another review just in case.  


We think it was, again, a timing issue.  It has worked flawlessly since then.
4/23/2017 1:25:23 AM EDT
[#40]
You should reach out to the media about the art snobs trying to push you out. I'd imagine artistic teenagers versus douchebag liberal art professors would be a story they would love to cover. Shame those bastards for their BS.

And beautiful work all around on their projects that stuffs awesome.
4/23/2017 9:30:49 AM EDT
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Our taxidermy makes three different appearances in this coverage.
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I enjoyed watching the 1st lady of Wyoming. 
4/23/2017 12:28:41 PM EDT
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Back on topic....

TopMen was interviewed Friday, so it looks like next week the article in the paper will be out.



We also had a slight hiccup in the program Friday.  It didn't close once during the afternoon.  After a diagnosis,  it was probably similar to what happened before.    The code will get another review just in case.  


We think it was, again, a timing issue.  It has worked flawlessly since then.
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Until you get the kinks worked out, leave the "print debug" statements in the code, spitting out a period every minute and the time each hour or something.   Then if it isn't opening the door, you can just plug into it and catch what the uC is doing.   It won't mess up the program by leaving those statements in, just slow it down by a few milliseconds per loop.  Due to the timing being on the order of minutes, that won't matter.

That will tell you if the clock gave a hiccup, or if the uC locked up (typically from interference).

All unused I/O should be connected to Ground via 1k resistor.
4/23/2017 2:22:25 PM EDT
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You should reach out to the media about the art snobs trying to push you out. I'd imagine artistic teenagers versus douchebag liberal art professors would be a story they would love to cover. Shame those bastards for their BS.

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I'm sure the Teacher of the Year awards will provide a platform for speaking his mind about his student's art being pushed aside next year.
4/24/2017 4:54:02 PM EDT
[#44]
They don't want Welding? Fine then braze it next year
4/24/2017 5:25:29 PM EDT
[#45]
There were lots of checks in my mailbox today for the patches.  Thank you everyone!
4/24/2017 7:57:53 PM EDT
[#46]
Are we square, or do we still owe you?
4/24/2017 8:29:44 PM EDT
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I think there were still a very few left, but I imagine those will come in the mail over the next few days.  

I'm not worried about it.    We were square long ago......  .  
4/24/2017 8:38:05 PM EDT
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I'm almost talked into taking taxidermy to State Art next year no matter what....even if they ban it.  I can call the news stations and have them there to video it being taken down.    I believe that kind of censorship  would make national news.

We also have a plan.  I'm going to order a wonderfull horse or zebra form for next year.  We will decorate it with some kind of glass pattern, and add a unicorn horn along with our traditional driftwood and vegetation.  We can make it outlandish and gaudy; maybe even a rainbow    It will have everything but a skin.  

The kids kept asking if I was serious...   Yes I am.  I'll  probably order the form tomorrow, just to make sure I have no choice.  
4/24/2017 8:41:59 PM EDT
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The door seam got attention today.  We stated cleaning up the seam.  Pieces went on and off, but I've got one of my chief engineers on it, and he was determined to make it right.  He kept saying, "My name is on this, I want it right."  

The all school art show it tomorrow night and parents usually walk through our hallways to get a peak at all the displays.  Hopefully we will have it looking good by then.
4/24/2017 8:58:15 PM EDT
[#50]
Farmers Fight!

I love the brazing idea.

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