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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:00:23 AM EDT
[#1]
Csb.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:00:34 AM EDT
[#2]
Amazing how so many here will cheer our country being run to the ground for the sake of Ukraine.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:00:53 AM EDT
[#3]
trollololol
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:00:57 AM EDT
[#4]
In for the shit show…
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:03:19 AM EDT
[#5]
Good. The longer the war drags on the, more uke trash and ruskie trash gets taken out.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:05:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing how so many here will cheer our country being run to the ground for the sake of Ukraine. We spent around 20 trillion fighting two different wars over two decades in the middle east. A few billion to Ukraine is the least of our problems. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:06:56 AM EDT
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I super sure that that money couldn't be used across our police forces, rising national debt, or maybe our veterans. Shit even our wild life conservation couldn't use that money at all.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:08:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing how so many here will cheer our country being run to the ground for the sake of Ukraine. It's so fucked. It's like a dOprah show: "you get abillion! You get a billion! You get a billion!" Well... unless you're a taxpayer. In that case you get a bill for all that forced generosity. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:08:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We spent around 20 trillion fighting two different wars over two decades in the middle east. A few billion to Ukraine is the least of our problems. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:13:05 AM EDT
[#10]
Take that you suckers aka as the American tax payers to include those not even born yet because everyone will get top pay their fair share of interest on this debt as well as all of the rest of it.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:15:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I super sure that that money couldn't be used across our police forces, rising national debt, or maybe our veterans. Shit even our wild life conservation couldn't use that money at all. You're not wrong, but perhaps some of the 450 billion that illegal aliens cost us every year could be redirected towards all of those things instead? |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:16:15 AM EDT
[#12]
oH, YEA.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:16:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not wrong, but perhaps some of the 450 billion that illegal aliens cost us every year could be redirected towards all of those things instead? |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:24:10 AM EDT
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Why not? Let's run the US into the ground with immigrants, crime, failing infrastructure, interest rates through the fucking roof, part time cops, the homeless, mental health crisis, a shrinking military and finish her off by not taking care of Veterans.
Fuck that midget scumbag crying about everyone forgetting about him since the attack on Israel. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:31:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't we just spend a cool trillion in three months? Yep.  So far, we've only been averaging around 60 billion per year to Ukraine though. Wake me up when it gets up to 300 billion a year. Sure, it's all tax $$$, but in the big picture it's a drop in the bucket. I'm a pragmatist and a realist. There's a lot of other crap we spend money on that worries me more than Ukraine. That money was never going to be spent to improve our country anyway, we already know that. The more money Uncle Sugar sends to Ukraine, the less money they have to screw me over. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:36:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's so fucked. It's like a dOprah show: "you get abillion! You get a billion! You get a billion!" Well... unless you're a taxpayer. In that case you get a bill for all that forced generosity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Amazing how so many here will cheer our country being run to the ground for the sake of Ukraine. It's so fucked. It's like a dOprah show: "you get abillion! You get a billion! You get a billion!" Well... unless you're a taxpayer. In that case you get a bill for all that forced generosity. This. All while blaming SS on this country’s financial woes. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:41:09 AM EDT
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Attached to border changes? I doubt Democrats will support such a bill and https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/03/democrats-immigration-pramila-jayapal-00129781
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:41:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We spent around 20 trillion fighting two different wars over two decades in the middle east. A few billion to Ukraine is the least of our problems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Amazing how so many here will cheer our country being run to the ground for the sake of Ukraine. We spent around 20 trillion fighting two different wars over two decades in the middle east. A few billion to Ukraine is the least of our problems. We gave up an entire leg for this other cause! Why would you bother to object to giving up a hand or a foot for this cause? Who cares if it gets us closer to the point in which we no longer have any body parts to give and are no longer able to do anything meaningful with our body? America has sacrificed enough for other countries. The body of our nation is being cut up and given to others who have no right to it and we are being rendered useless. We won't be able to sustain the level of spending and repay the debt if we continue to spend with no regard for the economic security of the country. You have the same fucking mindset as the fucking idiots in Washington that have gotten us to the state we are in now. NO MORE. Go give them your own fucking money and go over there and fight their war for them yourself if you think it's a worthy cause. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:42:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing how so many here will cheer our country being run to the ground for the sake of Ukraine. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:42:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We spent around 20 trillion fighting two different wars over two decades in the middle east. A few billion to Ukraine is the least of our problems. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:43:16 AM EDT
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We’ll see if Democrats vote for it as last I heard they had a shitstorm about changes to rules for asylum https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/immigration-part-military-aid-package-israel-ukraine-lankford/story?id=105333263
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:45:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We gave up an entire leg for this other cause! Why would you bother to object to giving up a hand or a foot by for another cause? Who cares if it gets us closer to the point in which we no longer have any body parts to give and are no longer able to do anything meaningful with our body? Because I'm a realist. That money was never going to be spent to improve our country, or help us in any way. Of all the things that are destroying our nation, Ukraine is way way way down near the bottom of the list. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:45:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. So far, we've only been averaging around 60 billion per year to Ukraine though. Wake me up when it gets up to 300 billion a year. Sure, it's all tax $$$, but in the big picture it's a drop in the bucket. I'm a pragmatist and a realist. There's a lot of other crap we spend money on that worries me more than Ukraine. That money was never going to be spent to improve our country anyway, we already know that. The more money Uncle Sugar sends to Ukraine, the less money they have to screw me over. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:47:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Attached to border changes? I doubt Democrats will support such a bill and https://thehill.com/policy/international/4339551-sen-ron-johnson-russia-ukraine-war-will-end-negotiated-settlement/amp/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_0337_jpeg-3048926.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_0338_jpeg-3048927.JPG |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:48:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We'll see if Democrats vote for it as last I heard they had a shitstorm about changes to rules for asylum https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/immigration-part-military-aid-package-israel-ukraine-lankford/story?id=105333263 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_0340_jpeg-3048928.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_0339_jpeg-3048929.JPG |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:49:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems his standpoint is retarded. Hes a smart'ish guy. He has to know Russia hasnt held to any agreement including the ones 'protecting' Ukraines sovereignty. Wrong article, I accidentally posted that instead of the Democrats articke, edited my post. But as to that it seems a large and growing chunk of Republican Party seems to be echoing that Senator on Ukraine which obviously is at odds with Kiev’s stated policy |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:49:46 AM EDT
[#27]
It's all so tiresome.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:51:20 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: Letters, emails, and phone calls worked.
Mike Johnson is the man. A God-fearing Trump Republican. I still stand by my previous statement that fighting will continue into 2024 even if new US aid fails to materialize although I’m tracking Hungary on its EU aid situation. Slovak government seemed to say they won’t obstruct aid but won’t contribute from from their stocks any longer. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:51:44 AM EDT
[#29]
Merry fucking Christmas you Ukraine motherfuckers.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 2:55:19 AM EDT
[#30]
Last I heard Democrats said Johnson’s demands were a no go https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/11/29/congress/johnson-not-sold-on-senates-ukraine-play-00129146
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:00:32 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not wrong, but perhaps some of the 450 billion that illegal aliens cost us every year could be redirected towards all of those things instead? Democrats at least so far are responding to Johnson that any changes to immigration other than facilitating it are their hill to die on. At this point Democrats are flagrant about wanting a permanent open border https://thehill.com/latino/4338248-border-ukraine-funding-immigration-democrats/amp/  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:02:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We spent around 20 trillion fighting two different wars over two decades in the middle east. A few billion to Ukraine is the least of our problems. Even the anti military anti war Brown University study didn’t go half of that amount  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:14:57 AM EDT
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I’m not finding anything to corroborate OP claim yet. NATO Secretary General in fact is warning of bad news due inbound https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-boss-jens-stoltenberg-warns-of-bad-news-from-ukraine/
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:16:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even the anti military anti war Brown University study didn’t go half of that amount https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_0347_jpeg-3048937.JPG My point still stands, it just stands a bit smaller than I previously thought. 
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:18:41 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing how so many here will cheer our country being run to the ground for the sake of Ukraine. But it's not. The scenario is complete fantasy. We are, however, running our country into the ground for the sake of the forceful redistribution of wealth from workers and businesses to overly entitled elderly folks. It is literally the primary cause of our fiscal ruin and dwarfs everything else, even more so if you add the rest of our welfare programs and associated debt. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:19:52 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My point still stands, it just stands a bit smaller than I previously thought. That’s fine, just clarifying amounts estimated |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:23:07 AM EDT
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the amount sent to zman on behalf of ukraine will never be known. in fact, much of what our congress and govt agencies do will never be known. however, this is a ripe opportunity for OP to troll bigly (big league). it is sick how you get your jollies off rustling America first folks jimmies with your celebration on bidding farewell to money collected by our govt for domestic use. rated troll
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:23:46 AM EDT
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How much is cash vs a line of credit to buy shit from our MIC, or old gear we would pay to demil that is actually saving us cash sending to Ukraine for them to dispose of for us?
There is a big difference. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:30:47 AM EDT
[#39]
Thought they tied Ukraine Aid and Border Security together
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:32:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought they tied Ukraine Aid and Border Security together They did and last I checked Democrats said nope and I can’t find any MSM confirming OP’s claim. Will check again tomorrow |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:35:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:36:55 AM EDT
[#42]
I'm sure it's the phone calls and not because he's the uni-party's bitch now.
Remember when those motherfuckers said $5 billion to secure our own border was just too much money? |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:42:48 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They did and last I checked Democrats said nope and I can’t find any MSM confirming OP’s claim. Will check again tomorrow Hard to imagine he drops the Republican carrot out of the bill and green lights 60 billion. We'll see I guess |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:45:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hard to imagine he drops the Republican carrot out of the bill and green lights 60 billion. We'll see I guess He’s lose his seat like McCarthy if he gets nothing for Republicans. Dems want a combined bill but Johnson said no which means 60 billion still has to get past the Freedom Caucus Matt Gaetz Congressmembers in a vote if Johnson wants to keep his position https://themessenger.com/politics/house-freedom-caucus-rejects-speaker-johnsons-ukraine-us-borderpairing  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 3:58:01 AM EDT
[#45]
Miss McCarthy yet?
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Posted: 12/4/2023 4:08:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much is cash vs a line of credit to buy shit from our MIC, or old gear we would pay to demil that is actually saving us cash sending to Ukraine for them to dispose of for us? There is a big difference. None of it should be cash, period. It should be tracked, cataloged, and managed aid that is overseen so as much as possible goes to stopping Russia..not filling anyone's pocket. And neither should they be valuing surplus, boneyard M113s as a million each. Or ancient Atacms missiles. |
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Posted: 12/4/2023 4:25:22 AM EDT
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Fuck sake.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:31:07 AM EDT
[#48]
Not posted anywhere else on the inter webs ? ??
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:32:20 AM EDT
[#49]
I think you mean authorize the creation of $60 billion more debt. I think that is what you meant to say.
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Posted: 12/4/2023 5:37:09 AM EDT
[#50]
Get to work bitches these pimpin MFers gots the check book.
Gonna be handing your money out like a music video rapper at a strip club. Uniparty trash. |
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