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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:03:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: Caymen vs 911 and Why? I choose Caymen if I were a big spender. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:03:52 PM EDT
[#2]
cayman.
seat count. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:06:28 PM EDT
[#3]
Cayman = 944
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cayman = 944 how? |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:07:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cayman = 944 944 was Front engine and rear wheel drive. Caymen is rear mid engined. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:09:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 944 was Front engine and rear wheel drive. Caymen is rear mid engined. Poor man's Porsche |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:09:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 944 was Front engine and rear wheel drive. Caymen is rear mid engined. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cayman = 944 944 was Front engine and rear wheel drive. Caymen is rear mid engined. not to mention the back seat |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:12:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cayman = 944  Have you driven either one? I have both. They're not even close. To answer the OP's question, I love the Cayman and likely won't ever sell it. However, next car will be an air cooled 911. So I guess the answer is get both. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:12:16 PM EDT
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The 911 will always be the flagship.
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:13:04 PM EDT
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718 is a 4 cylinder so that makes the answer pretty easy. Although I guess you could go with the GTS 4.0 but then you are spending 911 money on a Cayman.
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:13:50 PM EDT
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Quoted: I choose Caymen if I were a big spender. If you were a big spender, you would choose a 911. The Cayman is definitely the best bang for the buck in the Porsche lineup, but a "big spender" wouldn't care about that, and would buy a 911 turbo or one of the 911 GT cars. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:15:56 PM EDT
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911 Turbo S
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:16:56 PM EDT
[#13]
911 so I can bring the family
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:17:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 911 so I can bring the family As long as your children have no legs, the back seats are perfectly fine!
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:18:46 PM EDT
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What is your price limit?
What year of 911 and Cayman are you looking at? What trim level? What is the car used for? Track, street/track, rural roads, or just to and from Cars and Coffee? What are the streets like near your place? Smooth? Potholes? You need AWD? Just you or a family? Need space for luggage? There is about a bunch of questions you need to ask yourself. It would also help if you knew how to spell Cayman correctly. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:19:15 PM EDT
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It’s a conundrum. The 911 is a touring sportscar, and the caymen/boxter is more of a purist sports car. It’s more like a 356 vs 550. The all electric caymen/boxter coming soon might be the real winner.
Now.. if I had the means, I would probably buy a 911 for comfort since im getting older and need it. But, I’m a Porsche lover and some used 718s are calling my name hard. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:19:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Cayman is the most reliable porsche ever built.
It's fun to drive and fast around the track with an amateur driver. I'm a little claustrophobic so I couldn't buy one but I've done a fair amount of track time in them. The 911 is alot harder to drive fast, it's faster in a line but usually slower in the hands of a amateur. Modern tech has made them much more friendly. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:19:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as your children have no legs, the back seats are perfectly fine! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 911 so I can bring the family As long as your children have no legs, the back seats are perfectly fine! It’s made to haul supermodels. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:29:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 718 is a 4 cylinder so that makes the answer pretty easy. Although I guess you could go with the GTS 4.0 but then you are spending 911 money on a Cayman. I can afford both and chose the GTS. I’ll get a 911 at some point likely, but for now… lightweight, manual, naturally aspirated, RWD, not a lot of cars that check those boxes. To get that in a 911 you’d have to have 200k and a long standing relationship with the dealer. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:32:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can afford both and chose the GTS. I’ll get a 911 at some point likely, but for now… lightweight, manual, naturally aspirated, RWD, not a lot of cars that check those boxes. To get that in a 911 you’d have to have 200k and a long standing relationship with the dealer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 718 is a 4 cylinder so that makes the answer pretty easy. Although I guess you could go with the GTS 4.0 but then you are spending 911 money on a Cayman. I can afford both and chose the GTS. I’ll get a 911 at some point likely, but for now… lightweight, manual, naturally aspirated, RWD, not a lot of cars that check those boxes. To get that in a 911 you’d have to have 200k and a long standing relationship with the dealer. I understand where you are coming from. I don’t mind the turbos on the new 992 cars but would probably opt for a low mileage 991 myself. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:35:44 PM EDT
[#21]
BMW Z4 M
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:37:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Cayman flat six with a manual transmission.
One of the finest handling cars ever made. No interest in any other Porsche. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:38:26 PM EDT
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I guess I should have started a thread when asking advice about buying a Porsche. Asking in the official thread yielded little info.
I'm going cayman gts 4.0, manual. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:39:17 PM EDT
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I remember reading somewhere, but not “where”, there is (or was) a suspicion Porsche purposely “declaws” the Cayman so as to not upset their model hierarchy.
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:40:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember reading somewhere, but not "where", there is (or was) a suspicion Porsche purposely "declaws" the Cayman so as to not upset their model hierarchy. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:40:59 PM EDT
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Don’t be a peasant. Here is my ‘22 Carrera GTS with aerokit.
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:41:12 PM EDT
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911 I can take my AR SBR and maybe squeeze in two 30 round mags into the back seat.
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:41:55 PM EDT
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I would do some awful things for a 930
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:43:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Cayman isn’t as quick but more balanced and predictable on the track back to back because things happen relatively slower so it’s becomes forgiving. 911 for practicality and everyday use. Have owned both as daily drivers. The current 3.0T engines are annoying with turbo lag even with a tune
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:44:51 PM EDT
[#30]
A pure sports car? Cayman
The ultimate grand tourer? 911 |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:45:26 PM EDT
[#31]
Meh... frankly, I dig pristine 'teener Boxter GTS.
Been looking at one, but I'm living on retirement funds... so it's probably not gonna happen. |
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Posted: 8/29/2023 11:50:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I read it on rennlist multiple times the last few days. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I remember reading somewhere, but not "where", there is (or was) a suspicion Porsche purposely "declaws" the Cayman so as to not upset their model hierarchy. Technical issues aside, if they ever introduce an AWD version Cayman, I would think the 911 would be forced to evolve into something completely unlike a 911. That or wither and die. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:00:32 AM EDT
[#33]
Quit fucking around and just get an AMG SL
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:03:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:05:10 AM EDT
[#35]
Not a big Porsche fan, but I do like the looks of the Cayman.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:17:52 AM EDT
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I had a 2021 Cayman GTS it was an awesome car. Now I have a 911 992. I honestly need a 3rd seat ever now and then. But that cayman was great with the NA engine. It also handled great as a mid engine.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 7:23:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A pure sports car? Cayman The ultimate grand tourer? 911 This. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 7:39:07 AM EDT
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I've owned a 911 T, 944, 924, 914, Cayman and Cayman S. The 911-T was a carbureted pig, a 1971 IIRC, and I got from a buddy who owned a body shop. It was a NY car that was rusted to hell that he got in trade and he just didn't want to mess with it so I drove it for about a year until the floor boards rusted through.
The 944 I had in Germany and I got it for $2500USD. It was essentially brand new with 5K kms on it and garage kept but took leaded gas so the owner couldn't drive it any more (no cat). US personal had an exemption for a while. Fun car but slow. Would cruise on the autobahn though….I'd keep it at 240-260 kph for hours on end when A-8 was mostly unrestricted. Those days are pretty much gone. The 924 the same….slow but fun. The 914 was a go-cart. I really liked that little thing but it had all sorts of electrical problems. I ended up getting rear ended at Bragg by some woman who was driving and watching the air show that was going on….just drove right into me. The Cayman base was ok. Handled well but no real power. The Cayman S, a 2014 with PDK and 6 cylinders, was by far the most fun. It drove like it was on rails and had more than enough power to get the job done, especially in sport mode. That being said, I'm starting to look for mid 1980's 911S…..prices seem to be coming down and I've wanted one since they came out. The problem that I have is there's no way I can get it up the mountain to my cabin so"ll have to rent an indoor storage unit in town. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 7:57:10 AM EDT
[#39]
 130 more days. 
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:16:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don’t be a peasant. Here is my ‘22 Carrera GTS with aerokit. https://i.ibb.co/4p6ybLM/IMG-2147.jpg 
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:18:16 AM EDT
[#41]
Gt3
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:33:33 AM EDT
[#42]
Quoted: It’s made to haul supermodels. The rear seats in a 911 are simply a well-upholstered storage area. But handy for that purpose! |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:43:52 AM EDT
[#43]
911 no contest. I've owned my turbo for almost 6, and have racked up approx 70k mi. I have driven a buddy's 718 boxster and it was an excellent, well rounded car.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:43:53 AM EDT
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When I think Porsche I think 911. It's the quintessential German sports car that been around for almost 60 years now.
The Cayman/Boxer are both fine cars though and the higher end Cayman's have amazing performance. They just always look like wannabe 911's to me though. 993 911 Turbo 992 GT3 Touring 992 911 Dakar Cayman GT4 RS Those would be my choices in that order if I didn't have a budget. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:44:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rear seats in a 911 are simply a well-upholstered storage area. But handy for that purpose! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's made to haul supermodels. The rear seats in a 911 are simply a well-upholstered storage area. But handy for that purpose! |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:51:07 AM EDT
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I would be happy with a 70 to 75 912.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:55:03 AM EDT
[#47]
Do you just want a Porsche or do you want a 911?
If you really don’t care Cayman is a great car at a bargain price. I was in this conundrum a few years ago. Deep down I was a 911 fanatic since I was a kid. Promised myself I’d own a 911 someday and needed to scratch that itch. If I got the Cayman I feel I’d settled and regret it everyday. Know another guy that was the same way. He only kept his 911 for two years before trading it on a 718 Spyder (boxter essentially) and has zero regrets. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:56:12 AM EDT
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911
I just bought a Turbo S and driving that thing has ruined my ability to drive anything else. 
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Posted: 8/30/2023 8:57:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would be happy with a 70 to 75 912. You mean 914? The only years they didn't make 912s was 70-75. Longhood 912s with carbs = 1965-1969 70-75 = no 912 G-Body (impact bumper) 912 with fuel injection = 1976 911E (just one year) |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:03:28 AM EDT
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LOL you guys and your Beetles...er Volkswagons..
/snicker |
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