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Posted: 7/25/2011 9:22:54 AM EDT
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Arashi - can you remove the trigger housing and take pictures of how the magazine release has been set up? If you have calipers, can you take measurements of the receiver? How far down from the top is the receiver cut and how thin are the clip guides? I put a lot of pics in an album. https://picasaweb.google.com/aramail/20rndGarand?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPr29rD_-pubEg&feat=directlink  
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Posted: 7/25/2011 9:25:34 AM EDT
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I have a 30-06 beretta garand that uses 20 round BAR mags. So, there were two versions of the BM-59? The BM-59 was 30-06 and the BM-59e was 7.62x51? It's not a BM-59. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 12:39:30 PM EDT
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I have a 30-06 beretta garand that uses 20 round BAR mags. So, there were two versions of the BM-59? The BM-59 was 30-06 and the BM-59e was 7.62x51? It's not a BM-59. I'm not at work right now. So, what caliber was the BM-59? |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 12:48:06 PM EDT
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I have a 30-06 beretta garand that uses 20 round BAR mags. So, there were two versions of the BM-59? The BM-59 was 30-06 and the BM-59e was 7.62x51? It's not a BM-59. I'm not at work right now. So, what caliber was the BM-59? 7.62 NATO |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 1:02:54 PM EDT
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I have a 30-06 beretta garand that uses 20 round BAR mags. So, there were two versions of the BM-59? The BM-59 was 30-06 and the BM-59e was 7.62x51? It's not a BM-59. I'm not at work right now. So, what caliber was the BM-59? 7.62 NATO So, what did Italy do with all the M-1's in .30-06 they were given? |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 1:23:02 PM EDT
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. They modified a motherfucking Garand and ARFtards are ok with it? I mean, we're talking about a rifle designed by fucking Jesus Christ himself here.  I hate to break it to you but John Moses Browning did not design the Garand....... |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 1:31:11 PM EDT
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. They modified a motherfucking Garand and ARFtards are ok with it? I mean, we're talking about a rifle designed by fucking Jesus Christ himself here. I hate to break it to you but John Moses Browning did not design the Garand....... I think he's thinking of that Canadian, St. Jon Hay-Seuss le Cristo, from St. Remi, Quebec.  I hear tell he was also a good ice skater.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 1:36:11 PM EDT
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for me the garand is a collector piece
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Posted: 7/25/2011 1:42:09 PM EDT
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Interdasting....but what does it really bring to the table over the M1A.
As others have said though....bring it in for the price of an M1A and I would go for it. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 1:51:29 PM EDT
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Rather than trying to make the Garand receiver work, would it be possible to use an M-14 receiver with a Garand .308 barrel and gas system? That way M-14 magazines would work easily?
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Posted: 7/25/2011 1:53:16 PM EDT
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Still has the whole thumb issue. Ahhh no it doesn't that goes away with the whole en bloc thingy. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 2:09:11 PM EDT
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yes I would
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Posted: 7/25/2011 2:14:34 PM EDT
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. They modified a motherfucking Garand and ARFtards are ok with it? I mean, we're talking about a rifle designed by fucking Jesus Christ himself here. I hate to break it to you but John Moses Browning did not design the Garand....... He is so crass. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 2:19:38 PM EDT
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If someone built a modern reproduction of one would you buy one? here's a pic of a T20 ( Garand with BAR mag for reference) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2W3Zu51Sj68/TY_5qEa6GAI/AAAAAAAAABc/HdhUszCdzRg/s1600/t20_8ld3fj9a.jpg No. It has none of the historical significance of the U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1, was unable to meet rigorous service requirements for RAM-D, and as such only existed in prototype form. There would be no point for me. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 2:22:10 PM EDT
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Cool - back in the 1940s.
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Posted: 7/25/2011 2:41:16 PM EDT
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If someone built a modern reproduction of one would you buy one? here's a pic of a T20 ( Garand with BAR mag for reference) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2W3Zu51Sj68/TY_5qEa6GAI/AAAAAAAAABc/HdhUszCdzRg/s1600/t20_8ld3fj9a.jpg No. It has none of the historical significance of the U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1, was unable to meet rigorous service requirements for RAM-D, and as such only existed in prototype form. There would be no point for me. Maybe for you, but I'd give my left nut and a kidney for a T20E2 reproduction. A 30.06 M1 that takes BAR magazines? Not liking it is criminal. And it's the missing evolutionary link between the M1 and the M14. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 2:49:54 PM EDT
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I want a BM 59....
I will accept nothing less. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 2:52:24 PM EDT
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Cool - back in the 1940s. Yep, 20 rounds of 30cal just has no relevance today... unless it's in a 1950's package. 
I apologize for being 5 years behind the times. 
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Posted: 7/25/2011 3:31:55 PM EDT
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If someone built a modern reproduction of one would you buy one? here's a pic of a T20 ( Garand with BAR mag for reference) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2W3Zu51Sj68/TY_5qEa6GAI/AAAAAAAAABc/HdhUszCdzRg/s1600/t20_8ld3fj9a.jpg No. It has none of the historical significance of the U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1, was unable to meet rigorous service requirements for RAM-D, and as such only existed in prototype form. There would be no point for me. Maybe for you, but I'd give my left nut and a kidney for a T20E2 reproduction. A 30.06 M1 that takes BAR magazines? Not liking it is criminal. And it's the missing evolutionary link between the M1 and the M14. I was commenting only on my behalf, but I see nothing wrong with adding as much to your collection as you can. I really respect the M1 and M14. I can understand wanting the "funnies" to add to your collection. For me, I just don't have the money or space at this time. I hope you can add one to yours some day. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 3:34:00 PM EDT
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I want a BM 59.... I will accept nothing less. I saw one at Campbell Police and Shooters supply back in '81 or '82 and have really wanted one ever since. I can't help but like it, and the Italians are great craftsmen. The only problem as I see it is the cost of magazines. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 3:35:10 PM EDT
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Cool - back in the 1940s. Yep, 20 rounds of 30cal just has no relevance today... unless it's in a 1950's package. http://i51.tinypic.com/3443ymf.jpg I apologize for being 5 years behind the times. I never tire of seeing pics of that rifle in-theater. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 3:51:52 PM EDT
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I want a BM 59.... I will accept nothing less. I saw one at Campbell Police and Shooters supply back in '81 or '82 and have really wanted one ever since. I can't help but like it, and the Italians are great craftsmen. The only problem as I see it is the cost of magazines. Magazines are under $30 retail. I bought some for $5. Not much demand for them. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 3:55:29 PM EDT
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I want a BM 59.... I will accept nothing less. I saw one at Campbell Police and Shooters supply back in '81 or '82 and have really wanted one ever since. I can't help but like it, and the Italians are great craftsmen. The only problem as I see it is the cost of magazines. Magazines are under $30 retail. I bought some for $5. Not much demand for them. That's not bad. Last I read anything about them they seemed higher than that, and folks who owned BM 59s were complaining about it. $5.00 is HK G3 prices, and that's incredibly cheap. Hmmmmmm.... |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 3:58:59 PM EDT
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If someone built a modern reproduction of one would you buy one? here's a pic of a T20 ( Garand with BAR mag for reference) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2W3Zu51Sj68/TY_5qEa6GAI/AAAAAAAAABc/HdhUszCdzRg/s1600/t20_8ld3fj9a.jpg Funny thing is I had lunch with a guy last week who is making his first prototype for a projected run of 100 or so. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 3:59:08 PM EDT
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I want a BM 59.... I will accept nothing less. I saw one at Campbell Police and Shooters supply back in '81 or '82 and have really wanted one ever since. I can't help but like it, and the Italians are great craftsmen. The only problem as I see it is the cost of magazines. I know a retired gunsmith who used to do BM-59 conversions but would convert them to use M-14 magazines instead of the BM-59 magazines and he would also modify the bolt hold-open device to work when engaged by an M-14 magazine's follower. Too bad he doesn't do that work anymore. I'd personally love a BM-59 that could use M-14 mags and had a working BHO. I'd have it with both the sporting front end and the military one so I could shed the length and weight of the military configuration when I felt like it for sporting purposes. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 4:00:57 PM EDT
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I'd buy one.........I had one many moons ago, but would really love to have one with the folding stock.......I think it was the paratrooper model
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You mean a BM59? This...It's been done. Heck, now that some here won't by Italian weapons anymore I guess the BM is a non-starter to bring back into production. Butt-hurt and all I suspect it would be a good seller if the price-point was less than a M1A.. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 7:43:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Cool - back in the 1940s. Yep, 20 rounds of 30cal just has no relevance today... unless it's in a 1950's package. http://i51.tinypic.com/3443ymf.jpg I apologize for being 5 years behind the times. That design is significantly inferior to current market options. |
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Posted: 7/25/2011 10:10:24 PM EDT
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Cool - back in the 1940s. Yep, 20 rounds of 30cal just has no relevance today... unless it's in a 1950's package. http://i51.tinypic.com/3443ymf.jpg I apologize for being 5 years behind the times. That design is significantly inferior to current market options. No argument against that. We're talking about disposable capital being used on fun guns, not practical work guns. |
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