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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:16:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well then, obviously it's worth more  I think you're smart enough to understand my point that's been missed by others. The "industry insider" didn't use a great analogy but they trying to drag me over it. Oh well  In this case a Rolex is a very poor analogy. A Kia vs a Lexus or Porsche would be a better analogy. I'm happy to see consumer budget options available. I don't expect them to be better than a nice system programmed by a specialist, but I expect they'll be useable for most people. |
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:16:05 PM EDT
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I got my "tier 1" hearing aids 3 weeks ago. They cost over $5K for the both of them but they (Oticon) are absolutely worth it! I can hear again!!! Hell, I'd have paid double.
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:20:23 PM EDT
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What is really needed for hearing aids is that they be covered by insurance pre-deductible
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:21:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course we are all fearing aids. Tom Hanks? I love Tom Hanks... |
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:30:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what is the label on your hearing aids that make make everyone impressed by how much you spent? I don’t own hearing aids. I simply piggybacked off what the other guy said, “you get what you pay for” almost always applies. It’s good that people have less expensive options that work, but shouldn’t be surprised if those options don’t work as effectively or show the longevity of more expensive versions. I’d even be a candidate for cheaper ones. I’ve priced them several times, but I refuse to spend thousands of dollars on something that just amplifies the wife’s nagging  Rather buy a few more guns, an ATV, something fun. |
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is really needed for hearing aids is that they be covered by insurance pre-deductible |
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:34:17 PM EDT
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I was at Costco a few days ago and Kirkland branded hearing aids have been recalled. Something about the batteries. I was pissed because my appointment was made 2 months ago and they could have let me know they couldn't sell them. I could have saved taking off of work .
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:34:20 PM EDT
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Came here to make sure the first post was on point, and I wasn't disappointed.
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:43:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, while your post reeks of jealousy… I don’t own a Rolex. Enjoy your $20 Timex, it’s just as good.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Enjoy your shitty rolex. They ain't worth the money as a time piece, and the maintenance and cleaning is bullshit as well. A cheap Japanese quartz movement kicks it's ass in intended function, but if you like "old world" complexity and "craftsmanship" and willing to pay stupid money for the privilege, knock yourself out. LOL, while your post reeks of jealousy… I don’t own a Rolex. Enjoy your $20 Timex, it’s just as good. phuk alls of you . rolex smolex, you wanna harsh the poors you needs a philip patek, homey.. 
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:50:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: phuk alls of you . rolex smolex, you wanna harsh the poors you needs a philip patek, homey.. https://static.fratello.com/2022/09/Henry-Graves-Jr-Patek-Philippe-24-Supercomplication-pocket-watch.jpg Laughs in Astronoma Tourbillion. (I actually don’t know which one costs more, just that I can’t buy either)  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/17/2022 6:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t own hearing aids. I simply piggybacked off what the other guy said, “you get what you pay for” almost always applies. It’s good that people have less expensive options that work, but shouldn’t be surprised if those options don’t work as effectively or show the longevity of more expensive versions. I’d even be a candidate for cheaper ones. I’ve priced them several times, but I refuse to spend thousands of dollars on something that just amplifies the wife’s nagging Rather buy a few more guns, an ATV, something fun. I wish I could do without them, but that is not the case. 
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Posted: 10/17/2022 6:10:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is really needed for hearing aids is that they be covered by insurance pre-deductible Insurance companies don't care about your health and well being. Their goal is to extract the maximum amount of money with the least payout. Most older people suffer from hearing loss, and giving everyone "free hearing aids" would jack your premiums up a bunch. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 12:51:17 AM EDT
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Does Anthrax’s former guitarist still make custom watches? What’s the hearing aid analogy for a watch made by Anthrax, because I want Anthrax-made hearing aids.
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:36:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No problem...get your prescription at home. With your cell phone. I have one, and it works. Get my numbers then order glasses online. https://www.eyeque.com/ The video on their website explaining how 'it works' is hilarious. Hell, the AOA wrote a long letter about how the device is iffy at best. It's pretty much just a mini autorefractor and does nothing else that you'd normally get during a real exam including an accurate rx. An autorefractor will get you ballpark, but a phoropter will always be better. Their doodad won't catch a metric ton of things that are important if you are medically out of norm, getting older, at risk conditions, etc. It's not a NCT, slit lamp, etc. But hey, I prefer to trust a professional with my eyes. If I fuck them up, it's not like I can grow spares. Even professionally, I don't mind people ordering from Zenni so long as they accept the inherent risks of them being out of spec since the glasses are made in Manyang, China. Kinda not under the same ANSI specs for glasses and all. I just roll my eyes when people bring out of spec online glasses and want me to fix them.  The ones in spec aren't bad though, I've owned a few pairs. Will they replace my aspheric poly lenses for daily wear? No. But a cheap pair for shooting for fishing where they might get damaged? Yup.https://www.aoa.org/AOA/Documents/Advocacy/Letters/March%2015%20EyeQue%20draft.pdf |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 1:36:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Insurance companies don't care about your health and well being. Their goal is to extract the maximum amount of money with the least payout. Most older people suffer from hearing loss, and giving everyone "free hearing aids" would jack your premiums up a bunch. Yep. Just like certain medications aren't covered. Even most prosthetics aren't covered by insurance, and they classify hearing aids as prosthetics. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:15:02 AM EDT
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1. An audiologist is not a doctor, and doesn't write prescriptions. They test your hearing and try to sell hearing aids. (An optometrist is not a doctor either. They test your vision and give you the results, go where you want. The results of you not following up on those tests won't affect your health unless, say, you fall into a hole you didn't see, or not hear that train coming as you crossed the tracks.)(You don't get a hearing aid or eye glass "prescription" filled at a pharmacy.)
2. Take those hearing test results anywhere you want that sells hearing aids. I went to the audiologist at my ENT doc's practice. She recommended 4-6k dollar hearing aids. I took the results, not a prescription, to a Sam's Club here in Amarillo. The guy there read the results, tested a few more frequencies, and I bought hearing aids for 12 hundred bucks. The Sam's I went to has had hearing aids and tests since it opened. I lost one though. 200 bucks to replace. Going tomorrow. All my info is on his computer, should take about ten minutes. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:23:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. An audiologist is not a doctor, and doesn't write prescriptions. They test your hearing and try to sell hearing aids. (An optometrist is not a doctor either. They test your vision and give you the results, go where you want. The results of you not following up on those tests won't affect your health unless, say, you fall into a hole you didn't see, or not hear that train coming as you crossed the tracks.)(You don't get a hearing aid or eye glass "prescription" filled at a pharmacy.) 2. Take those hearing test results anywhere you want that sells hearing aids. I went to the audiologist at my ENT doc's practice. She recommended 4-6k dollar hearing aids. I took the results, not a prescription, to a Sam's Club here in Amarillo. The guy there read the results, tested a few more frequencies, and I bought hearing aids for 12 hundred bucks. The Sam's I went to has had hearing aids and tests since it opened. I lost one though. 200 bucks to replace. Going tomorrow. All my info is on his computer, should take about ten minutes. Uh... DOs are recognized as physicians as a heads up, hence Doctor of Optometry and the ability to legally write prescriptions. Ophthalmologists are full MD plus DO rolled into one and usually deal with surgeries and more complex stuff. Opticians are essentially (in most states) akin to a pharmacist when it comes to glasses/contacts, including legal liability. Zero idea on auditory though, so I'm staying in my lane. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:25:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Just like certain medications aren't covered. Even most prosthetics aren't covered by insurance, and they classify hearing aids as prosthetics. Hearing aids are prosthetics. There are a LOT of deaf people living in this world. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:35:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh... DOs are recognized as physicians as a heads up, hence Doctor of Optometry and the ability to legally write prescriptions. Ophthalmologists are full MD plus DO rolled into one and usually deal with surgeries and more complex stuff. Opticians are essentially (in most states) akin to a pharmacist when it comes to glasses/contacts, including legal liability. Zero idea on auditory though, so I'm staying in my lane. There are doctors of opthamology, ODs. The optometrist sends customers to them for problems they find in an exam, i.e., torn retina. Optometrist can't fix a torn retina, an OD will try. (DO is Doctor of Osteopathy, osteopathic docs.) There is a difference between opthamology and optometry, like the difference between a dentist and an oral surgeon. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 2:53:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are doctors of opthamology, ODs. The optometrist sends customers to them for problems they find in an exam, i.e., torn retina. Optometrist can't fix a torn retina, an OD will try. (DO is Doctor of Osteopathy, osteopathic docs.) There is a difference between opthamology and optometry, like the difference between a dentist and an oral surgeon. It’s funny I work in the field and still screw up OD/DO. My point was simply that the claim that a OD isn’t a doctor was false. Kinda why I pointed out that a OD will do exams while an ophthalmologist can do exams but usually handles more complex stuff. I just work under the people with letters after their names. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:14:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are doctors of opthamology, ODs. The optometrist sends customers to them for problems they find in an exam, i.e., torn retina. Optometrist can't fix a torn retina, an OD will try. (DO is Doctor of Osteopathy, osteopathic docs.) There is a difference between opthamology and optometry, like the difference between a dentist and an oral surgeon. I should know, I just put one thru school. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 3:31:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Huh? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 6:51:34 AM EDT
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My dad was complaining about his hearing aids not working, not fitting, etc. so we made an appointment w/ the VA
Doc walks in, looks, pulls both hearing out, flip flops them, and reinserts. Dad says, "Ah, much better" He had them in the wrong ears. Doc explained Red Means Right Ear. Guy I shoot w/ has some fancy hearing aids. Connects to his phone. He can change the direction the mics pick up sound so if people behind him are too loud he can dial them out and focus on the sound in front of him |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 6:53:36 AM EDT
[#24]
Surprisingly, prices at the hearing aid stores will drop an amazing amount. Competition is a horrible thing.
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Posted: 10/18/2022 7:02:38 AM EDT
[#25]
Funny, I literally watched Sound of Metal last night. Jacked up flick.
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Posted: 10/18/2022 7:04:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Without a prescription? Scripts are cheap |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 6:56:10 PM EDT
[#27]
INND down again today
Clown market 
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Posted: 10/18/2022 7:00:35 PM EDT
[#28]
I don't know anything about the industry and laws, but it always struck me as criminal that, with today's technology, many older folks were seemingly forced to go to physicians to get sets that cost like a bazillion dollars. Again, I'm ignorant on this stuff, but my reaction is "good".
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Posted: 10/18/2022 7:36:21 PM EDT
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I need hearing aids. Legitimately need them. My hearing loss affects my life on a daily basis.
However, I've never been willing to shell out $6-7k for a pair. Maybe I'll finally get set. |
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Posted: 10/18/2022 9:18:23 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hope my INND hits $.05 lol Came to post this...to the moon baby!!
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:27:40 PM EDT
[#31]
I was in Costco a few months ago to price shop so I know how much money to budget for my FSA. Kirkland was $1400, Phillips and Rexton were $1800. Have Costco prices gone down?
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:55:53 PM EDT
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<-- 25 year HA wearer.
- people are going to be pissed off with the sound because they may not be fitted properly - they will hate life now that they WILL HEAR EVERYTHING!!!!! everything... - Costco is still the best bet for top$1800 I do welcome the open market, will be good for me in the future. I still recommend Costco for service and quality. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 10:06:26 PM EDT
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Costco Kirkland brand hearing aids were all recalled. I was there for new ones two weeks ago and they told me that. They said they had no idea when they would have updated ones back.
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