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Posted: 12/27/2018 12:57:27 PM EDT
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Shhhhhhh! The divestors from Monday will not be happy. TC |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 1:53:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s no such thing as realized or unrealized losses in a 401k. Nothing is taxed until withdrawal.. Say your 401K is set up in a 30/30/40 mix of small cap, mid cap and bonds. right now your small cap and midcap are negative for the year. If you re-allocate to 25/25/50 or 15/15/70 you have locked in those losses. Taxes have nothing to do with it. You are selling low. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 1:57:29 PM EDT
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What? Say your 401K is set up in a 30/30/40 mix of small cap, mid cap and bonds. right now your small cap and midcap are negative for the year. If you re-allocate to 25/25/50 or 15/15/70 you have locked in those losses. Taxes have nothing to do with it. You are selling low. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There’s no such thing as realized or unrealized losses in a 401k. Nothing is taxed until withdrawal.. Say your 401K is set up in a 30/30/40 mix of small cap, mid cap and bonds. right now your small cap and midcap are negative for the year. If you re-allocate to 25/25/50 or 15/15/70 you have locked in those losses. Taxes have nothing to do with it. You are selling low. You’re right about one thing though. People absolutely love to buy high and sell low. It’s mind boggling. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 1:59:42 PM EDT
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Yep on Monday. What do I do to guys? Buy sp500 now or wait til Monday? |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 2:39:36 PM EDT
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Collapse on Monday? What do I do to guys? Buy sp500 now or wait til Monday? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep on Monday. What do I do to guys? Buy sp500 now or wait til Monday? |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 2:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? Say your 401K is set up in a 30/30/40 mix of small cap, mid cap and bonds. right now your small cap and midcap are negative for the year. If you re-allocate to 25/25/50 or 15/15/70 you have locked in those losses. Taxes have nothing to do with it. You are selling low. Your current mix would have the equity portions down. So you be putting more money into anything that was was down on the year (buying low). Anything sold would be assets that had performed better (obviously relative to the portfolio makeup). Even if your “better” performing funds were down on the year you’re offsetting that by buying the other funds lower. Thats the specific reason you rebalance regularly. If you’re going from a 30/30/40 mix to a different mix that’s not the same as a rebalance. Regardless realized vs unrealized gains are practically irrelevant in a 401k, and much more relevant in a taxable account where your taxes matter on your gains. What does matter much more in a 401k is minimizing your average unit cost, which is one of the reasons why people rebalance regularly. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s no such thing as realized or unrealized losses in a 401k. Nothing is taxed until withdrawal. As far as average unit cost, if the equity portion is way down, you wouldnt be selling any of those, you’d be selling the funds that were up or “down less” to boost up the funds that were down most. In a debt/equity split of the the equity markets are down you’d be selling the bonds to bring up the holdings in equities. As far as selling the International part of my portfolio I will wait until it comes back up from it's present miserable negative 15.11% loss. Or at least close to it. I have a long life left in retirement and I have patience. At least that fund is only 10% of my portfolio so there is that. After this it's doubtful I will ever buy it again. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:05:21 PM EDT
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And that's exactly what will happen during the rebalance coming this Friday. As far as selling the International part of my portfolio I will wait until it comes back up from it's present miserable negative 15.11% loss. Or at least close to it. I have a long life left in retirement and I have patience. At least that fund is only 10% of my portfolio so there is that. After this it's doubtful I will ever buy it again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There’s no such thing as realized or unrealized losses in a 401k. Nothing is taxed until withdrawal. As far as average unit cost, if the equity portion is way down, you wouldnt be selling any of those, you’d be selling the funds that were up or “down less” to boost up the funds that were down most. In a debt/equity split of the the equity markets are down you’d be selling the bonds to bring up the holdings in equities. As far as selling the International part of my portfolio I will wait until it comes back up from it's present miserable negative 15.11% loss. Or at least close to it. I have a long life left in retirement and I have patience. At least that fund is only 10% of my portfolio so there is that. After this it's doubtful I will ever buy it again. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:13:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And that's exactly what will happen during the rebalance coming this Friday. As far as selling the International part of my portfolio I will wait until it comes back up from it's present miserable negative 15.11% loss. Or at least close to it. I have a long life left in retirement and I have patience. At least that fund is only 10% of my portfolio so there is that. After this it's doubtful I will ever buy it again. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:15:57 PM EDT
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El 0 el ??
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:16:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you’re actually retired why do you have much stock anyway? Try living on a bond fund in retirement. Inflation will eat your ass up down the road. Hell even a target date fund that finally moves to it's final conclusion will have you in 25 to 30% equities. And since I mention target date funds since they are so prevalent at age 65 they generally have you somewhere between 50-60% equities. Worry not,over half of my money is in a quality low cost bond fund. In fact if I just pulled from it alone the fund would last me 15 years before it was exhausted. Balance my friend. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:18:18 PM EDT
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Was yesterday a dead cat bounce? Just checked and most major indices down over 2.5%.
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:22:26 PM EDT
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Why did you buy international to begin with? And what changed? Just that there has been a period of underperformance? But everything I read said it was in your best interest to do so. Honestly I don't buy that train of thought anymore. But me being me and that is a soul of caution I only bought 10% in the fund. Oh last year it made around 27%. Not so much so in years past and certainly not this year for damn sure. After I liquidate it in the future I doubt seriously I will ever invest in it again. I can tell you the big firms such as Vanguard,Fidelity,and Schwab love it. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:23:20 PM EDT
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Not only market timing, but asking the hive to market time for you. I love it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep on Monday. What do I do to guys? Buy sp500 now or wait til Monday? |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:27:19 PM EDT
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What do man? What do? Dow down 600 Unless it's money that's absolutely needed right now or very shortly just let things shake out. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:29:56 PM EDT
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I resisted it for years. But everything I read said it was in your best interest to do so. Honestly I don't buy that train of thought anymore. But me being me and that is a soul of caution I only bought 10% in the fund. Oh last year it made around 27%. Not so much so in years past and certainly not this year for damn sure. After I liquidate it in the future I doubt seriously I will ever invest in it again. I can tell you the big firms such as Vanguard,Fidelity,and Schwab love it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why did you buy international to begin with? And what changed? Just that there has been a period of underperformance? But everything I read said it was in your best interest to do so. Honestly I don't buy that train of thought anymore. But me being me and that is a soul of caution I only bought 10% in the fund. Oh last year it made around 27%. Not so much so in years past and certainly not this year for damn sure. After I liquidate it in the future I doubt seriously I will ever invest in it again. I can tell you the big firms such as Vanguard,Fidelity,and Schwab love it. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:33:08 PM EDT
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What do man? What do? Dow down 600 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep on Monday. What do I do to guys? Buy sp500 now or wait til Monday?  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:35:32 PM EDT
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Gotcha. FWIW, there are some experts out there, Jack Bogle for instance, who agree with you and who feel that international for a US invester is unnecessary. I was so tepid on it I chose 10%. Glad I didn't listen to some other "experts" that were suggesting 40-50%. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:39:41 PM EDT
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Gotcha. FWIW, there are some experts out there, Jack Bogle for instance, who agree with you and who feel that international for a US invester is unnecessary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why did you buy international to begin with? And what changed? Just that there has been a period of underperformance? But everything I read said it was in your best interest to do so. Honestly I don't buy that train of thought anymore. But me being me and that is a soul of caution I only bought 10% in the fund. Oh last year it made around 27%. Not so much so in years past and certainly not this year for damn sure. After I liquidate it in the future I doubt seriously I will ever invest in it again. I can tell you the big firms such as Vanguard,Fidelity,and Schwab love it. 20% of my equities are international. However, this has not been a kind year to them |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:44:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are also a lot of experts out there that say international is an important diversification 20% of my equities are international. However, this has not been a kind year to them And like I said earlier the big brokerages really push it. I personally dealt with it for several years and just have no love left for it. It's a very personal thing and every investor views risks differently. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:45:07 PM EDT
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There are also a lot of experts out there that say international is an important diversification 20% of my equities are international. However, this has not been a kind year to them Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why did you buy international to begin with? And what changed? Just that there has been a period of underperformance? But everything I read said it was in your best interest to do so. Honestly I don't buy that train of thought anymore. But me being me and that is a soul of caution I only bought 10% in the fund. Oh last year it made around 27%. Not so much so in years past and certainly not this year for damn sure. After I liquidate it in the future I doubt seriously I will ever invest in it again. I can tell you the big firms such as Vanguard,Fidelity,and Schwab love it. 20% of my equities are international. However, this has not been a kind year to them |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:51:12 PM EDT
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LOL
Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 3:59:05 PM EDT
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 4:03:51 PM EDT
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Interest rate hikes killed the market, which oddly the Fed is claiming we need since the Economy is heating up and we don't want inflation, right?
So.... If the economy is so great, the market should come back once the rate hike shock has worn off. Or not. It's clear its going to be one of those two outcomes. It's just like in medicine, where we figure half of what we know is wrong. We just don't know which half. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 4:06:21 PM EDT
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. You managed to write numerous paragraphs, and not say anything other than "TRUMP!". You assert he is the cause of the market collapse, but offer no supporting evidence. I don't personally care for the Orange Messiah either, but I don't think he's destroying the economy. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 4:09:36 PM EDT
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 4:11:56 PM EDT
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God Damn that's beautiful. You managed to write numerous paragraphs, and not say anything other than "TRUMP!". You assert he is the cause of the market collapse, but offer no supporting evidence. I don't personally care for the Orange Messiah either, but I don't think he's destroying the economy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. You managed to write numerous paragraphs, and not say anything other than "TRUMP!". You assert he is the cause of the market collapse, but offer no supporting evidence. I don't personally care for the Orange Messiah either, but I don't think he's destroying the economy. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 4:31:47 PM EDT
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_Pew_
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Posted: 12/27/2018 4:43:58 PM EDT
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. Enjoy your sour outlook and shit sandwiches. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 5:01:42 PM EDT
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Orange Man Bad. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 5:05:44 PM EDT
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23,138.69 +260.24 (1.14%)
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Posted: 12/27/2018 5:18:43 PM EDT
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Lol, the economy is so fucking good the fed is doing unprecedented shit to slow it down. We’re in record breaking good right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. You managed to write numerous paragraphs, and not say anything other than "TRUMP!". You assert he is the cause of the market collapse, but offer no supporting evidence. I don't personally care for the Orange Messiah either, but I don't think he's destroying the economy. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 5:36:34 PM EDT
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What is the Fed doing that's unprecedented, raising rates? They prefer to keep the interest rate between 2-6%, after a decade of suppressed rates they are finally raising rates a slow incremental level like should have been started in 2012! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. You managed to write numerous paragraphs, and not say anything other than "TRUMP!". You assert he is the cause of the market collapse, but offer no supporting evidence. I don't personally care for the Orange Messiah either, but I don't think he's destroying the economy. Sure looks like they were protecting a fragile Obama economy and trying to slow down the Trump economy. Could be coincidence, but the Fed has been pretty openly anti-Trump |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 5:51:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After years of not raising rates at all. They are now raising rates faster than they should be now. Sure looks like they were protecting a fragile Obama economy and trying to slow down the Trump economy. Could be coincidence, but the Fed has been pretty openly anti-Trump This is why central planning is bad. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 8:10:45 PM EDT
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After years of not raising rates at all. They are now raising rates faster than they should be now. Sure looks like they were protecting a fragile Obama economy and trying to slow down the Trump economy. Could be coincidence, but the Fed has been pretty openly anti-Trump Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. You managed to write numerous paragraphs, and not say anything other than "TRUMP!". You assert he is the cause of the market collapse, but offer no supporting evidence. I don't personally care for the Orange Messiah either, but I don't think he's destroying the economy. Sure looks like they were protecting a fragile Obama economy and trying to slow down the Trump economy. Could be coincidence, but the Fed has been pretty openly anti-Trump  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 8:14:02 PM EDT
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Volcker must have been a mad man then. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/200878/800px-Federal_funds_rate_history_and_recessions_jpg-787279.JPG |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 8:52:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That chart kinda puts Trump's current whining into context... President Trump, bad. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 9:06:21 PM EDT
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Great. Now I somehow managed to sell short right at the start of a dead count bounce. Hope it's not very high
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Posted: 12/27/2018 9:36:08 PM EDT
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Volcker must have been a mad man then. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/200878/800px-Federal_funds_rate_history_and_recessions_jpg-787279.JPG [1] In the 1970s and 1980s, a 5 percent inflation rate was regarded as healthy for the economy. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 10:48:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're actually retired why do you have much stock anyway? |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 10:53:23 PM EDT
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump.  or 
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Posted: 12/27/2018 10:54:57 PM EDT
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alright boys,we mooning now. Lambos soon.
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Posted: 12/27/2018 10:55:47 PM EDT
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alright boys,we mooning now. Lambos soon. |
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Posted: 12/27/2018 10:57:21 PM EDT
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Because you will be retired long enough to realize some growth. When you retire you don't just spend the money in one day. You should still have a little bit set aside to grow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: If you're actually retired why do you have much stock anyway? |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:32:00 AM EDT
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23,138.69 +260.24 (1.14%) Woo woo. I can get me a store bought haircut! That is, until..........Monday. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 8:37:58 AM EDT
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 2:18:55 PM EDT
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I'm still down 55K from September. I'm not selling shit.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 2:20:58 PM EDT
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We've got much more serious issues to ponder. We've got a man contemplating using expired cocoa powder in another thread. Get your priorities right.
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Posted: 12/28/2018 2:28:38 PM EDT
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After years of not raising rates at all. They are now raising rates faster than they should be now. Sure looks like they were protecting a fragile Obama economy and trying to slow down the Trump economy. Could be coincidence, but the Fed has been pretty openly anti-Trump Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL Muh 401K. Yes, Virginia, things are really that bad. And LOL at "It's Not Trump". It's not an Adjustment, it's not Profit Taking, it's not the Democrats, and it's not the media; it's that there's no faith in the market, Because Trump. It's just Trump. The USA Domestic and Foreign politics of Chaos have yielded why Putin and Lavrov got him elected in the first place. Apparently, only when we hit bottom will the Trump Addicts seek help, and it's coming up fast. And, NO, the people on furlough do not agree with the Shutdown. For a FENCE. THAT AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SHOULD BUILD. He lies, and people eat it up. He shits in your mouth, and people swallow it. It was: "We will build a big beautiful concrete wall, and Mexico will pay for it, TRUST ME!!", and people sucked it up. Now it's: ""The taxpayers will pay for a fucking fence, and until I get it, nearly everyone who works for the government will suffer the consequences, so I can look good." Wait until somebody tells him how small The Base really is, and he takes the next step in Gun Control to try to get more votes for his re-election. Because it's all about him. LOL. I'm back into guns, and specifically AR10's & 15's, Because Trump. You managed to write numerous paragraphs, and not say anything other than "TRUMP!". You assert he is the cause of the market collapse, but offer no supporting evidence. I don't personally care for the Orange Messiah either, but I don't think he's destroying the economy. Sure looks like they were protecting a fragile Obama economy and trying to slow down the Trump economy. Could be coincidence, but the Fed has been pretty openly anti-Trump |
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Posted: 12/28/2018 9:05:42 PM EDT
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The Fed lowers rates in a weak economy, and raises them in a strong economy. |
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