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Posted: 12/14/2021 3:24:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:26:14 PM EDT
[#1]
God damn.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:28:35 PM EDT
[#2]
I'll allow it.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:28:52 PM EDT
[#3]
MSRP?
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:29:48 PM EDT
[#4]
Faux pleather that will look like shit in 2-3 years. Not a bad design and color scheme though, I will give them that.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:30:14 PM EDT
[#5]
I see Tuck-n-roll is making a come back.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:31:07 PM EDT
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I dunno, my old Passat TDI had pleather and it lasted from 2013 until they were forced to buy it back.
My 4Runner has pleather and it's 4 years old now.

Stuff has come a long way since the 80's.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:35:17 PM EDT
[#7]
The back seat honestly looks more appealing than the front. And that’s not a negative comment on the visual appearance of the front seats
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:37:30 PM EDT
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you're joking right? The g90s are $80K cars, thats actual leather.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:39:40 PM EDT
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back when this was the hyundai equus and moving forward to the g90 these were heavily marketed as cars for people who can afford a personal driver. The 40 decibel noise reduction, multiple microphone and audio zones built into the rear for meetings, air ride suspension...etc are all meant for someone to realistically spend more time in the back of one of those than ever driving one. They are super fun to drive too though.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:41:30 PM EDT
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back when this was the hyundai equus and moving forward to the g90 these were heavily marketed as cars for people who can afford a personal driver. The 40 decibel noise reduction, multiple microphone and audio zones built into the rear for meetings, air ride suspension...etc are all meant for someone to realistically spend more time in the back of one of those than ever driving one. They are super fun to drive too though.
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back when this was the hyundai equus and moving forward to the g90 these were heavily marketed as cars for people who can afford a personal driver. The 40 decibel noise reduction, multiple microphone and audio zones built into the rear for meetings, air ride suspension...etc are all meant for someone to realistically spend more time in the back of one of those than ever driving one. They are super fun to drive too though.


I wonder how cheaply I can hire a driver
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:41:41 PM EDT
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That’s a Genesis, which means that’s a high quality real leather.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:43:21 PM EDT
[#12]
It looks like they mined all the world's supply of burgundy
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:43:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Did VW design the stitching?  
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:44:13 PM EDT
[#14]
What’s the price?

If I want an S class that’s not an S class I’ll get a 7 Series.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:44:20 PM EDT
[#15]
It's nice to see the manual controls for HVAC, etc....  Now if they would just do the same for basic audio controls.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:44:29 PM EDT
[#16]
Totes diggin mine; not a G90 though

Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:54:54 PM EDT
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Less than a s class by a fair bit

83ish k base
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:56:54 PM EDT
[#18]
The Genesis G90 looks to be an awesome automobile in its own right.

IMHO... certainly in the same class as a Mercedes (AMG excluded)

Motorweek just did a test drive of the car and came away thoroughly impressed.      
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:58:50 PM EDT
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Totes diggin mine; not a G90 though

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Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:58:55 PM EDT
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that 7 series is going to make the Genesis look like a Lexus in terms of reliability
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 3:59:47 PM EDT
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I love red interior



So 70s
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:00:19 PM EDT
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So Im curious though

Can you guys tell if a dude throws a JB4 on these things? I mean assuming a guy didnt show up to have his oil changed with it on.

I find the claims a bit dubious that its not detectable if a issue arose
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:02:00 PM EDT
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The 7 series is such a better buy all around for someone that actually drives. The G90 I rode in, did have a softer ride, but then again it's not a vehicle aimed at luxury performance either.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:02:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Does it need oil changes every 3k cause everything in its life is severe?
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:13:14 PM EDT
[#25]
That's just
Over done for the sake of over doing it.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:13:26 PM EDT
[#26]


"Genesis is on a buildup to detonation!"
"We'll beam aboard and stop it."
"You can't."
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:15:10 PM EDT
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In Asian countries, being chauffeured is much more common than here.  The owner of a luxury car is likely to spend more time in the backseat than the front.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:16:01 PM EDT
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I love red interior

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/391660/source__1_-1215430-1842685.gif

So 70s


I really enjoy a black car on cordovan interior.

But my absoloutel favorite is black on dark camel/caramel
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:16:35 PM EDT
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In Asian countries, being chauffeured is much more common than here.  The owner of a luxury car is likely to spend more time in the backseat than the front:
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In Asian countries, being chauffeured is much more common than here.  The owner of a luxury car is likely to spend more time in the backseat than the front:


that's because there is a giant poor class, and giant upper class and a very small middle class.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:35:22 PM EDT
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Most likely yes
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:35:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Oh look, Hyundai is doing a King Ranch Edition.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:37:25 PM EDT
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I wonder how cheaply I can hire a driver
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The back seat honestly looks more appealing than the front. And that’s not a negative comment on the visual appearance of the front seats



back when this was the hyundai equus and moving forward to the g90 these were heavily marketed as cars for people who can afford a personal driver. The 40 decibel noise reduction, multiple microphone and audio zones built into the rear for meetings, air ride suspension...etc are all meant for someone to realistically spend more time in the back of one of those than ever driving one. They are super fun to drive too though.


I wonder how cheaply I can hire a driver

I’ll work for $30/hr + thicc leftovers.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:39:14 PM EDT
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Most likely yes
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Most likely yes


I know you like KIA/Hyaundai but that is an unacceptable Mx interval
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:39:33 PM EDT
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I’ll work for $30/hr + thicc leftovers.
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The back seat honestly looks more appealing than the front. And that’s not a negative comment on the visual appearance of the front seats



back when this was the hyundai equus and moving forward to the g90 these were heavily marketed as cars for people who can afford a personal driver. The 40 decibel noise reduction, multiple microphone and audio zones built into the rear for meetings, air ride suspension...etc are all meant for someone to realistically spend more time in the back of one of those than ever driving one. They are super fun to drive too though.


I wonder how cheaply I can hire a driver

I’ll work for $30/hr + thicc leftovers.



nice...
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:45:37 PM EDT
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@LittlePony

You mentioned in the oil change thread about Hyundai and Kia being 'Korea Value Brands', with cheaper materials (to paraphrase), thus needing more frequent oil changes vs some of the better built Japanese brands (Toyota).  

How does Genesis compare?   Is the overall quality there vs. high end Euro/Japanese cars?

Thanks!
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:46:23 PM EDT
[#36]
That car seems to have an invisible touch...
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:49:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:50:07 PM EDT
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So Im curious though

Can you guys tell if a dude throws a JB4 on these things? I mean assuming a guy didnt show up to have his oil changed with it on.

I find the claims a bit dubious that its not detectable if a issue arose
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It can be pretty obvious that a piggyback was installed because sensor values will be constantly out of "normal" range, but it's certainly not as simple as a flash tune that writes a value to the ECU. The manufacturer would likely need to do some analysis into the ECU logs to see it, and when it gets to that point either the manufacturer is digging for any reason to not pay warranty because they are cheap, you pissed someone off, or there are more obvious signs that it was likely modified like having a sticker with the name of your instagram where you are doing donuts shortly before blowing up the engine.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:50:09 PM EDT
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That’s how executive sedans are.  Ls500 rear passenger can recline the entire seat.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:50:51 PM EDT
[#40]
Damn that looks like a Rolls Royce interior,,
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:53:54 PM EDT
[#41]
Remember, Genesis IS Skynet...
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 4:56:31 PM EDT
[#42]
A G90 5.0 Ultimate is on my list after I get tired of my '17 SS.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 5:12:40 PM EDT
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@LittlePony

You mentioned in the oil change thread about Hyundai and Kia being 'Korea Value Brands', with cheaper materials (to paraphrase), thus needing more frequent oil changes vs some of the better built Japanese brands (Toyota).  

How does Genesis compare? Is the overall quality there vs. high end Euro/Japanese cars?

Thanks!
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Genesis gets the best quality control and the finest materials off the shelf in our inventory.

They have their own R & D department their own subdivisions in factories, They even have their own platforms.

However Genesis at its heart is completely Korean therefore it is very focused on value.

so there is still a lot of engineering compromises but perhaps less so compared to Hyundai or Kia, Maybe they have longer oil change intervals than us or not I could not say I don't have any access to their internal documentation.

They are a very different kind of premium brand.

They are a value premium brand.

which is something that has been quite rare, Most brands that were went bankrupt during the great depression

all the options of your highest end trim competitors but not at a price that feels like a rip off

You could say that the whole brand is targeting frugal rich people that are responsible with their money and have Asian tastes, Who want something nice but can't see justifying spending a 120000 something dollars on an S class Mercedes Yet also do not want to deal with barren Japanese premium vehicles

They are the only brand on the market right now like that.

@AFARR
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 5:32:19 PM EDT
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You'd be all over a mid 90's Pontiac.
Link Posted: 12/14/2021 5:53:49 PM EDT
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I dunno, my old Passat TDI had pleather and it lasted from 2013 until they were forced to buy it back.
My 4Runner has pleather and it's 4 years old now.
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How do you tell a 1975 Mercedes with leather from one with MB-Tex?
The MB-Tex isn't rotted. (but both have crumbling horsehair foundation pads under them)
Link Posted: 12/15/2021 10:45:37 AM EDT
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... I need to hit the lottery.
Link Posted: 12/15/2021 10:55:55 AM EDT
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I am liking it.  Wife wants a Genesis SUV but I want a sedan.
Link Posted: 12/15/2021 10:59:14 AM EDT
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Genesis gets the best quality control and the finest materials off the shelf in our inventory.
They have their own R & D department their own subdivisions in factories, They even have their own platforms.
However Genesis at its heart is completely Korean therefore it is very focused on value.
so there is still a lot of engineering compromises but perhaps less so compared to Hyundai or Kia, Maybe they have longer oil change intervals than us or not I could not say I don't have any access to their internal documentation.

They are a very different kind of premium brand.
They are a value premium brand.
which is something that has been quite rare, Most brands that were went bankrupt during the great depression
all the options of your highest end trim competitors but not at a price that feels like a rip off
You could say that the whole brand is targeting frugal rich people that are responsible with their money and have Asian tastes, Who want something nice but can't see justifying spending a 120000 something dollars on an S class Mercedes Yet also do not want to deal with barren Japanese premium vehicles

They are the only brand on the market right now like that.
@AFARR
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They have chosen a very interesting niche.  I hope it works out for them.
Link Posted: 12/15/2021 11:01:22 AM EDT
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It's odd what gives some people a chub.
Link Posted: 12/15/2021 11:03:15 AM EDT
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Why does it scream it is aiming for Chinese millionaire to me in design?




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